Nintendo VS voice acting & CG

Has Nintendo ever released a game with extensive voice acting?

Has Nintendo ever released a game with extensive CG or even anime sequences?

These 2 things that are pretty comon in moderrn games appears to be negleted by Nintendo, as of today I can't remeber any Nintendo game that has put a lot work into these.

Surely in the the NES/SNES times these thing weren't avaiable... with Ps1 we started seeing and hearing... but as of now the ps1 game usually have more voice acting and CG than most Wii games.

Will Nintendo EVER start using these features? While this features are not required for a good gameplay, isn't a little LAZY on Nintendo's part?

Does Nintendo have a free pass and because of that is the conpany that will never need to use this features, only OHHHH YEAHH mario exclamation are enough?

Tales of Symphonia has both of those, voice acting and anime cutscenes.

I think SMS proved were better off without it.

You could get the best CG directors and writers in the world and Mario will probably still have a terrible story that you just don't care about, Mario is just silly so hes better left silent. Zelda is different. Imo that series kind of needs it now, It should be like metroid prime 3 though were all the other characters talk and links silent. I never want to hear him say a word

Metorid other M is going to use voice acting and CG

Metorid other M is going to use voice acting and CG

bowser3

Tales of Symphonia has both of those, voice acting and anime cutscenes.

felipebo

Tales of Symphonia was made and published by NAMCO. I am talking of nintendo.... *srugh*

Metorid other M is going to use voice acting and CG

bowser3

"going to use" future tense... cmon is Nintendo that far behind... there must be at least ONE game RELEASED the most profitable console publisher released with this basic features?

Tales of Symphonia has both of those, voice acting and anime cutscenes.

felipebo

Because some games do it, every game has to!!:roll:

Well, to be honest, I don't like either in my games.

CGI cut scene's pull you out of the game. They rip the controller from your hands and make you watch instead of play. The jarring difference between CGI and gameplay can be really off putting and kill any immersion the game might had. Things are getting better though. It's hard to tell the difference between CGI and gameplay in FF13. It still takes control away from me though...

Voice acting is God awful in video games. It's even worse than anime's voice acting. Until developers and publishers are willing to put out the cash for real talent, voice acting in games will always be a negative. No voice acting is better than bad voice acting. It doesn't help that video games are by far the weakest medium for story telling and are almost always very porly written.

I think SMS proved were better off without it.

You could get the best CG directors and writers in the world and Mario will probably still have a terrible story that you just don't care about, Mario is just silly so hes better left silent. Zelda is different. Imo that series kind of needs it now, It should be like metroid prime 3 though were all the other characters talk and links silent. I never want to hear him say a word

VendettaRed07

Zelda lack of Voice acting and CG for me is just LAZY.

Mario is the only character that always get a free pass for having awfull story, or lack of it. But even if was better withouth voice acting... they could have made action CG that could have been added to mario galaxy... a good CG scene of mario fighting bowser, saving the princess wouldn't do any worse.

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

I think SMS proved were better off without it.

You could get the best CG directors and writers in the world and Mario will probably still have a terrible story that you just don't care about, Mario is just silly so hes better left silent. Zelda is different. Imo that series kind of needs it now, It should be like metroid prime 3 though were all the other characters talk and links silent. I never want to hear him say a word

ropumar

Zelda lack of Voice acting and CG for me is just LAZY.

Mario is the only character that always get a free pass for having awfull story, or lack of it. But even if was better withouth voice acting... they could have made action CG that could have been added to mario galaxy... a good CG scene of mario fighting bowser, saving rpincess would do any worse... again LAZY.

Why? Why does it need those things at all?

Voice acting is God awful in video games. It's even worse than anime's voice acting. Until developers and publishers are willing to put out the cash for real talent, voice acting in games will always be a negative. No voice acting is better than bad voice acting. It doesn't help that video games are by far the weakest medium for story telling and are almost always very porly written.

goblaa

Why? Why does it need those things at all?

789shadow

Well, to be honest, I don't like either in my games.

CGI cut scene's pull you out of the game. They rip the controller from your hands and make you watch instead of play. The jarring difference between CGI and gameplay can be really off putting and kill any immersion the game might had. Things are getting better though. It's hard to tell the difference between CGI and gameplay in FF13. It still takes control away from me though...

Voice acting is God awful in video games. It's even worse than anime's voice acting. Until developers and publishers are willing to put out the cash for real talent, voice acting in games will always be a negative. No voice acting is better than bad voice acting. It doesn't help that video games are by far the weakest medium for story telling and are almost always very porly written.

goblaa

Voice acting is already as good as CG movies voice acting in the AAA titles.

This year alone lineup proves that:

BATMAN AA

UNCHARTED 2(better voice acting than uncharted is almost impossible)

Killzone 2

Resident Evil 5

GOD OF WAR COLLECTION

Unless you only have a wii and dont know what is quality voice acting.

Even games considered avarege like HEAVENLY SWORD had amazing voice acting.

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

Voice acting is God awful in video games. It's even worse than anime's voice acting. Until developers and publishers are willing to put out the cash for real talent, voice acting in games will always be a negative. No voice acting is better than bad voice acting. It doesn't help that video games are by far the weakest medium for story telling and are almost always very porly written.

Teufelhuhn

No they haven't. While things are getting better (like mass effects voice acting for example was great) even the top blockbuster games of today are awful when it comes to writing and acting. MW2, Bayonetta, Borderlands, Fallout 3, Fable 2, Gears of War, MGS4, Darksiders, daemon's soul...and so fourth have just awful voice acting and writing compared to any other meduim.

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Why? Why does it need those things at all?

Teufelhuhn

Agree completly... Nintendo games apparently can have those tho because of some crazy nostalgia vodoo it has, since apparently no one is bothered in Nintendo games... but demand voice acting on all others games.

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

Well, to be honest, I don't like either in my games.

CGI cut scene's pull you out of the game. They rip the controller from your hands and make you watch instead of play. The jarring difference between CGI and gameplay can be really off putting and kill any immersion the game might had. Things are getting better though. It's hard to tell the difference between CGI and gameplay in FF13. It still takes control away from me though...

Voice acting is God awful in video games. It's even worse than anime's voice acting. Until developers and publishers are willing to put out the cash for real talent, voice acting in games will always be a negative. No voice acting is better than bad voice acting. It doesn't help that video games are by far the weakest medium for story telling and are almost always very porly written.

ropumar

Voice acting is already as good as CG movies voice acting in the AAA titles.

This year alone lineup proves that:

BATMAN AA

UNCHARTED 2(better voice acting than uncharted is almost impossible)

Killzone 2

Resident Evil 5

GOD OF WAR COLLECTION

Unless you only have a wii and dont know what is quality voice acting.

Even games considered avarege like HEAVENLY SWORD had amazing voice acting.

Uncharted 2 is the only game on your list with decent voice acting or writing. The rest is just armature trash. Fun games for sure. All well made. Look great, play great. But the quality of their writing and quality of their voice acting is simply terrible compared to films, TV, and novels.

Well, to be honest, I don't like either in my games.

CGI cut scene's pull you out of the game. They rip the controller from your hands and make you watch instead of play. The jarring difference between CGI and gameplay can be really off putting and kill any immersion the game might had. Things are getting better though. It's hard to tell the difference between CGI and gameplay in FF13. It still takes control away from me though...

Voice acting is God awful in video games. It's even worse than anime's voice acting. Until developers and publishers are willing to put out the cash for real talent, voice acting in games will always be a negative. No voice acting is better than bad voice acting. It doesn't help that video games are by far the weakest medium for story telling and are almost always very porly written.

goblaa

Sorry but not everything has to be a cinematic adventure. Its not needed in every game. Those who dislike text will just have to get over it I suppose, you have tons of games to choose from. Last thing that we need is Mario and Zleda becoming CG infested cinematic games. Damn people, can you not handle some good old fashion adventuring without every 5 minutes being some artificially stimulated badass cutscene? Nintendo does not do that, why are we now putting some huge importance on them making their characters talk and infecting their ingame engines with CGI.

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

Voice acting is God awful in video games. It's even worse than anime's voice acting. Until developers and publishers are willing to put out the cash for real talent, voice acting in games will always be a negative. No voice acting is better than bad voice acting. It doesn't help that video games are by far the weakest medium for story telling and are almost always very porly written.

Teufelhuhn

On Topic: I agree. Voice acting is the main thing that I find lacking in Nintendo's games.

Uncharted 2 is the only game on your list with decent voice acting or writing. The rest is just armature trash. Fun games for sure. All well made. Look great, play great. But the quality of their writing and quality of their voice acting is simply terrible compared to films, TV, and novels.

goblaa

No. All of them have good voices. Killzone 2's are a little bit meh but the others have excellent voice acting, especially Batman AA, Uncharted 2. Also, other games this gen have terrific voices like MGS4, GTA4, Mass Effect, etc. I wish Nintendo would do the same.

[QUOTE="ropumar"]

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

Well, to be honest, I don't like either in my games.

CGI cut scene's pull you out of the game. They rip the controller from your hands and make you watch instead of play. The jarring difference between CGI and gameplay can be really off putting and kill any immersion the game might had. Things are getting better though. It's hard to tell the difference between CGI and gameplay in FF13. It still takes control away from me though...

Voice acting is God awful in video games. It's even worse than anime's voice acting. Until developers and publishers are willing to put out the cash for real talent, voice acting in games will always be a negative. No voice acting is better than bad voice acting. It doesn't help that video games are by far the weakest medium for story telling and are almost always very porly written.

goblaa

Voice acting is already as good as CG movies voice acting in the AAA titles.

This year alone lineup proves that:

BATMAN AA

UNCHARTED 2(better voice acting than uncharted is almost impossible)

Killzone 2

Resident Evil 5

GOD OF WAR COLLECTION

Unless you only have a wii and dont know what is quality voice acting.

Even games considered avarege like HEAVENLY SWORD had amazing voice acting.

Uncharted 2 is the only game on your list with decent voice acting or writing. The rest is just armature trash. Fun games for sure. All well made. Look great, play great. But the quality of their writing and quality of their voice acting is simply terrible compared to films, TV, and novels.

Tales of Symphonia has both of those, voice acting and anime cutscenes.

felipebo

Which has nothing to do with nintendo.

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

Why? Why does it need those things at all?

Teufelhuhn

With a population of 6 billion last I checked, probably more now, you probably aren't. Of course, someone like me who doesn't mind text boxes; who lets their mind fill in the roles of many, probably isn't either. :P

My only issue is inconsistency. Certain games *cough* Final Fantasy *cough* switch back and forth between fully voiced dialogue, partial, and text. It's the transition between these that makes me suddenly...Aware, for a lack of a better word, that I'm in my living room playing a video game.

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="ropumar"]

Voice acting is already as good as CG movies voice acting in the AAA titles.

This year alone lineup proves that:

BATMAN AA

UNCHARTED 2(better voice acting than uncharted is almost impossible)

Killzone 2

Resident Evil 5

GOD OF WAR COLLECTION

Unless you only have a wii and dont know what is quality voice acting.

Even games considered avarege like HEAVENLY SWORD had amazing voice acting.

Im_single

Uncharted 2 is the only game on your list with decent voice acting or writing. The rest is just armature trash. Fun games for sure. All well made. Look great, play great. But the quality of their writing and quality of their voice acting is simply terrible compared to films, TV, and novels.

Is that enough?

Sorry but not everything has to be a cinematic adventure. Its not needed in every game. Those who dislike text will just have to get over it I suppose, you have tons of games to choose from. Last thing that we need is Mario and Zleda becoming CG infested cinematic games. Damn people, can you not handle some good old fashion adventuring without every 5 minutes being some artificially stimulated badass cutscene? Nintendo does not do that, why are we now putting some huge importance on them making their characters talk and infecting their ingame engines with CGI.

ActicEdge

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="ropumar"]

Voice acting is already as good as CG movies voice acting in the AAA titles.

This year alone lineup proves that:

BATMAN AA

UNCHARTED 2(better voice acting than uncharted is almost impossible)

Killzone 2

Resident Evil 5

GOD OF WAR COLLECTION

Unless you only have a wii and dont know what is quality voice acting.

Even games considered avarege like HEAVENLY SWORD had amazing voice acting.

Im_single

Uncharted 2 is the only game on your list with decent voice acting or writing. The rest is just armature trash. Fun games for sure. All well made. Look great, play great. But the quality of their writing and quality of their voice acting is simply terrible compared to films, TV, and novels.

Yes. The voice acting was awful. If Batman AA was a movie, people would be amazed by it's atmosphere, but be snickering at its campyness.

Yes. The voice acting was awful. If Batman AA was a movie, people would be amazed by it's atmosphere, but be snickering at its campyness.goblaa

[QUOTE="Im_single"]

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

Uncharted 2 is the only game on your list with decent voice acting or writing. The rest is just armature trash. Fun games for sure. All well made. Look great, play great. But the quality of their writing and quality of their voice acting is simply terrible compared to films, TV, and novels.

goblaa

Yes. The voice acting was awful. If Batman AA was a movie, people would be amazed by it's atmosphere, but be snickering at its campyness.

Anyway, I'd be kinda disapointed if there was no VA in Zelda Wii (Everyone except Link BTW).

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Sorry but not everything has to be a cinematic adventure. Its not needed in every game. Those who dislike text will just have to get over it I suppose, you have tons of games to choose from. Last thing that we need is Mario and Zleda becoming CG infested cinematic games. Damn people, can you not handle some good old fashion adventuring without every 5 minutes being some artificially stimulated badass cutscene? Nintendo does not do that, why are we now putting some huge importance on them making their characters talk and infecting their ingame engines with CGI.

forgot_it

My idea of CGI and VC is not too close minded but I know better than what TC is suggesting.

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="Im_single"] Di...Did...Did you just say that Batman AA's voice acting was "armature trash"? I mean...Wow...Have you played Batman AA? I just..I don't think there are enough words in the English dictionary to state how wrong you are.

Yes. The voice acting was awful. If Batman AA was a movie, people would be amazed by it's atmosphere, but be snickering at its campyness.

Anyway, I'd be kinda disapointed if there was no VA in Zelda Wii (Everyone except Link BTW).

[QUOTE="gmc2u_64"]

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

Yes. The voice acting was awful. If Batman AA was a movie, people would be amazed by it's atmosphere, but be snickering at its campyness.

funsohng

Anyway, I'd be kinda disapointed if there was no VA in Zelda Wii (Everyone except Link BTW).

In the end, there is Opinion & Ignorance. Which do you think the man falls under?

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="Im_single"] Di...Did...Did you just say that Batman AA's voice acting was "armature trash"? I mean...Wow...Have you played Batman AA? I just..I don't think there are enough words in the English dictionary to state how wrong you are.

gmc2u_64

Yes. The voice acting was awful. If Batman AA was a movie, people would be amazed by it's atmosphere, but be snickering at its campyness.

Anyway, I'd be kinda disapointed if there was no VA in Zelda Wii (Everyone except Link BTW).

I did like Mark Hamill. The guys great in everything. So credit's due where credit's due.

[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="gmc2u_64"]...you DO know that Mark Hamill (The VA of Joker from Batman: The Animated Series) IS IN THE GAME, right?

Anyway, I'd be kinda disapointed if there was no VA in Zelda Wii (Everyone except Link BTW).

In the end, there is Opinion & Ignorance. Which do you think the man falls under?

It's called.

Super Mario Sunshine

Star fox 64 has voice acting, when Slippy says he thought they had him. Mario Galaxy has CG, but not really voice acting, maybe beeps that represent character voices.uyiop0t

Extensive means a lot... Star fox 63 surely didnt't had enough to be called extensive... lol

Mario Galaxy is another one that can't be called for EXTENSIVE CG.

It's called.

Super Mario Sunshine

LegatoSkyheart

Dude the intro consists basically of IN-GAME SCENES... using the engine to render the scenes... It does look good, but not even close to CG.

And the voice acting is non=exixtant... there very little voice in the game. Just watch after the intro mario talking to peach, she babbles in a Sims like language and the text above appear for you to read. TEXT.. no voice acting.

Nintendo just releases games that are better off without it. I thinkt he fact that games like Mario and Zelda have no CG is just part of the charm.

[QUOTE="Im_single"]

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

Uncharted 2 is the only game on your list with decent voice acting or writing. The rest is just armature trash. Fun games for sure. All well made. Look great, play great. But the quality of their writing and quality of their voice acting is simply terrible compared to films, TV, and novels.

goblaa

Yes. The voice acting was awful. If Batman AA was a movie, people would be amazed by it's atmosphere, but be snickering at its campyness.

WOW REALLY!?. The VO was from the people who voiced the animated series and that is far far far from a joke. You dissed mark hamills voice you dont know anything.

I rather have no text/voice acting than hours of voice acting/cut scenes.

Anyway, Nintendo never really has an unbearable amount of text that it's really needed. The only game I can think kind of is like that is Zelda, but it's not bad (Besides the owl from Ocarina of Time!!!).