Nintendo's Wii - Promise without Deliverance

Or is it? Can Nintendo's juggernaunt Wii really rebound, it has shown it can sell hardware units like mad, but can it shake off the image which plagues it? Not the image of shovel ware, though that does play quite the roll here at SystemWars, but the image of lacking quality titles. The Wii needs good 3rd party titles, and it's just not getting them - the Wii is getting left in the dust when it comes to big-bang 3rd party titles - and from what I see when I look at Nintendo's library, this is what I see:

With the help of the site Metacritic, I will provide some statistics which speak for itself about the Wii's library of games as of today, July 14th, 2008.

Metacritic has 232 games listed under the Wii - out of this number, 73 titles scored higher than 69%, and within those titles: 24 of which scored higher than 79%. What does this ultimately come down too?

10.34% of Wii games score AA or better.

31.47% of Wii games score A or better.

A whopping 68.53% score less than A on the Nintendo Wii gaming console.

With Nintendo's E3 showing sneaking up on us within the next 9 or so hours, do you think the Wii will start rebounding and start giving the gamers truly what they deserve? Will that gap above start getting a lot smaller here pretty soon?

Let us hear your thoughts.

The lack of third party support is semi annoying but Nintendo makes up for it with the best controls right now (played re4 on the wii?) and some amazing 1st party titles (Smash Bros, Super Mario Galaxy, Zelda).

With the new motion sensor I only see the controls getting better. I do miss Final Fantasy and Gran Turismo. I have a pc for everything else.

The lack of third party support is semi annoying but Nintendo makes up for it with the best controls right now (played re4 on the wii?) and some amazing 1st party titles (Smash Bros, Super Mario Galaxy, Zelda).

With the new motion sensor I only see the controls getting better. I do miss Final Fantasy and Gran Turismo. I have a pc for everything else.

Vriess

And how much is that little thing that gets clipped on to the end of the controller? Will it be worth the price tag?

Yeah it lacks big budget killer apps 3rd party games but it's full of average budget and niche 3rd party games with effort made for the wiimote use that sastifye me. And I think it has full of potential good titles in the future.

Still the 1st party lineup seems so far... not so good. There's Wario Land but still... I hope they reveal some new titles today.

Hey hey HEY!

Harvest Moon is coming to Wii.

Sorry but this grants it ALL insult immunity. I don't care if it has a million bad games - it has a Harvest Moon game, and it looks pretty freaking sweet. :P

Well I look at the upcoming line up and see plenty of third party games, just because they aren't "teh Juggernauts!!!" like Gears or something doesn't mean they won't be great games...bobbetybob

Well I look at the upcoming line up and see plenty of third party games, just because they aren't "teh Juggernauts!!!" like Gears or something doesn't mean they won't be great games...bobbetybob

Look at those numbers in the OP, 69% of Wii games are average and/or crap titles. 69%! Maybe a few of those titles will be "good or better" but the majority of them will lie in that 69%.

Well I look at the upcoming line up and see plenty of third party games, just because they aren't "teh Juggernauts!!!" like Gears or something doesn't mean they won't be great games...bobbetybob

so true.

[QUOTE="Vriess"]

The lack of third party support is semi annoying but Nintendo makes up for it with the best controls right now (played re4 on the wii?) and some amazing 1st party titles (Smash Bros, Super Mario Galaxy, Zelda).

With the new motion sensor I only see the controls getting better. I do miss Final Fantasy and Gran Turismo. I have a pc for everything else.

Stevo_the_gamer

And how much is that little thing that gets clipped on to the end of the controller? Will it be worth the price tag?

That's enough for me. Who would buy a Wii (or a Gamecube) for third party titles?

[QUOTE="bobbetybob"]Well I look at the upcoming line up and see plenty of third party games, just because they aren't "teh Juggernauts!!!" like Gears or something doesn't mean they won't be great games...Stevo_the_gamer

Look at those numbers in the OP, 69% of Wii games are average and/or crap titles. 69%! Maybe a few of those titles will be "good or better" but the majority of them will lie in that 69%.

And? That doesn't make games like MP3, NMH, SMG, SSMB, Z&W, ZTP, RE4WE and Okami less worthy.

That's enough for me. Who would buy a Wii (or a Gamecube) for third party titles?

IronBass

[QUOTE="bobbetybob"]Well I look at the upcoming line up and see plenty of third party games, just because they aren't "teh Juggernauts!!!" like Gears or something doesn't mean they won't be great games...Stevo_the_gamer

Civlizations isn't even on Wii anymore. Even if that next batch of games only yields like 4 or 5 AA's and maybe 2 AAA's, so what, by the time they are all out (I'm talking Madworld, Disaster, Deadly Creatures, de Blob, Warioland, those kind of games) it'll be around March '09 and by then I wouldn't be surprised if Wii had more sales than PS3 and 360 combined. That statistic alone will make the big developers sit up and take note, a console with a bigger userbase than 2 consoles? Less work but a bigger audience, what kind of developer wouldn't want to take advantage of that.

Plus I like the kind of obscure games more than the blockbusters, I would actually prefer if when a big company, let's say EPIC made a Wii game, rather than make a super all out shooter they made something a bit different. I like when a dev with talent makes a Wii game that sounds stupid but turns out awesome, like Boom Blox or Zack and Wiki.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="bobbetybob"]Well I look at the upcoming line up and see plenty of third party games, just because they aren't "teh Juggernauts!!!" like Gears or something doesn't mean they won't be great games...IronBass

Look at those numbers in the OP, 69% of Wii games are average and/or crap titles. 69%! Maybe a few of those titles will be "good or better" but the majority of them will lie in that 69%.

And? That doesn't make games like MP3, NMH, SMG, SSMB, Z&W, ZTP, RE4WE and Okami less worthy.

[QUOTE="IronBass"]

That's enough for me. Who would buy a Wii (or a Gamecube) for third party titles?

Stevo_the_gamer

I did so with the Cube. My only third party games were RE4 and MGS The Twins Snakes.

Edit: ortography fixed.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="bobbetybob"]Well I look at the upcoming line up and see plenty of third party games, just because they aren't "teh Juggernauts!!!" like Gears or something doesn't mean they won't be great games...Stevo_the_gamer

Look at those numbers in the OP, 69% of Wii games are average and/or crap titles. 69%! Maybe a few of those titles will be "good or better" but the majority of them will lie in that 69%.

And? That doesn't make games like MP3, NMH, SMG, SSMB, Z&W, ZTP, RE4WE and Okami less worthy.

Yup, bi what I don't understand why that means a "Promise without Deliverance". We expected great games, we got them. That 69% is irrelevant in terms of gaming. You don't play percentages, you play good games. And the Wii has some very good ones.

Civlizations isn't even on Wii anymore. Even if that next batch of games only yields like 4 or 5 AA's and maybe 2 AAA's, so what, by the time they are all out (I'm talking Madworld, Disaster, Deadly Creatures, de Blob, Warioland, those kind of games) it'll be around March '09 and by then I wouldn't be surprised if Wii had more sales than PS3 and 360 combined. That statistic alone will make the big developers sit up and take note, a console with a bigger userbase than 2 consoles? Less work but a bigger audience, what kind of developer wouldn't want to take advantage of that.

Plus I like the kind of obscure games more than the blockbusters, I would actually prefer if when a big company, let's say EPIC made a Wii game, rather than make a super all out shooter they made something a bit different. I like when a dev with talent makes a Wii game that sounds stupid but turns out awesome, like Boom Blox or Zack and Wiki.

bobbetybob

What kind of developer would want to develop on a console which would hold them back? Honestly. Developers make big bucks on the Xbox 360 and it will always be that way.

Yup, bi what I don't understand why that means a "Promise without Deliverance". We expected great games, we got them. That 69% is irrelevant in terms of gaming. You don't play percentages, you play good games. And the Wii has some very good ones.

IronBass

Hell, the original Xbox had twice the amount of good games on the console in one year than the Wii does right now at 1 3/5 of a year.

[QUOTE="IronBass"]

Yup, bi what I don't understand why that means a "Promise without Deliverance". We expected great games, we got them. That 69% is irrelevant in terms of gaming. You don't play percentages, you play good games. And the Wii has some very good ones.

Stevo_the_gamer

Hell, the original Xbox had twice the amount of good games on the console in one year than the Wii does right now at 1 3/5 of a year.

1. I perfectly understand that the Wii has a lot of shovelware, like the PS2 did, just like the DS does. But, again, you don't play the bad games, you play the good ones, and the Wii has good games. Is not that difficult to understand.

2. I just saw you support John McCain. That was everything I needed to know about you. I won't be discussing with you anymore. Enjoy your 360, we will enjoy our Wiis.

Hey hey HEY!

Harvest Moon is coming to Wii.

Sorry but this grants it ALL insult immunity. I don't care if it has a million bad games - it has a Harvest Moon game, and it looks pretty freaking sweet. :P

death919

yeah same old kiddy stuff for the Wii. Plz, don't embarass us sheep.

the wii have good games and if people pick out only the bad ones we all know what kind of people do this right ? ;)

Let's give Nintendo E3 to show us before we call it in...SolidTy

Animal Crossing is a major anouncement. They still do care about the long-time and more dedicated gamers.

I'm very satisfied personally.

MS? Now their conference really sucked.