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#1 SecretPolice
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Not a bashing thread but rather just some SW VG news to discuss so umm, no hate'en allowed. :P

Anyway, I'll likely buy one but thus far, I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Discuss if you wish.

Hit the link for full story since it's too long to post and I'll just post the first & last few paragraph to get ya started.

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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-01-25-nintendos-wii-u-sales-struggle

Nintendo's Wii U sales struggle

Exclusives are coming, but is it already too late? Eurogamer investigates

This week Nintendo will release its crucial third-quarter sales results and reveal how Wii U fared during its initial two months on sale. The company had promised to ship 5.5 million Wii U consoles by the end of March and end the financial year back in the black, thus avoiding a repeat of last year's damaging loss - the first in the company's history.

The loss was described as a blip that occurred as Nintendo price-dropped the 3DS and wrapped up costly research and design on the Wii U. It was a cost the company would not repeat, Nintendo boss Satoru Iwata told investors. But profits for this year have already been revised down. In October, Nintendo forecasted a new, slimmer earnings margin for the year, with the Wii U's early success playing a critical part. It's this early performance that we can now try to evaluate, with the console launched and already past its first holiday sales season.

Nintendo UK has remained silent about Wii U sales, but MCV reported first-weekend results of 40,000 consoles. It's a modest sum compared to other launches constrained by the level of stock allocated to the UK, although what did filter through to shop shelves didn't entirely sell out.

Eurogamer has been told by UK numbers firm Chart-Track that, after five weeks on sale, the Wii U's initial sales figure counted for 50.1 per cent of the system's total. This indicates that Wii U sales in the UK were at the 80,000 units mark at the beginning of January. It's a huge drop-off in sales momentum after the console's initial weekend on sale, but one that is typical of other UK hardware launches: pre-orders and pent up customer demand will always make for a huge first week and, by comparison, first-week sales for the original Wii counted for 50.4 per cent of its sales total after the same five-week period. For Xbox 360 it was 54.6 per cent, and for PlayStation 3 it was 71.7 per cent.

Wii U numbers as a whole are far less than other recent home console launches. We know that PlayStation 3 sold 165,000 units over its opening weekend in the UK, so another 29.3 per cent of sales would count for 48,345 units - pushing its five-week total to 208,000. Xbox 360 sold 70,000 in its opening weekend, so therefore sold 101,000 over five weeks. Finally, the Wii sold 105,000 units in its opening weekend, meaning in five weeks it had sold over 210,000. This leaves the Wii U, in the UK at least, lagging some way behind. But it's important to note that launch sales are just that. In the UK the PS3 outsold Xbox 360 by 2:1 at launch, but Microsoft's console has ended up selling significantly more than Sony's over its lifetime on these shores.

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UK home console sales over launch weekend and after five weeks.

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Nintendo Land was the only Wii U exclusive left in the UK all-formats chart

Following the fan-pleasing Direct presentation, it felt the only way Nintendo could have gone further would have been to actually announce a price cut. But, with new other new consoles on the horizon, will a drop in price be necessary later in 2013? It would likely be an unattractive proposition for Nintendo, which already makes a loss on Wii U hardware. It would have to balance a poorer financial outlook and negative reaction from early adopters. And, while Wii U may appear expensive compared to the current late-lifecycle prices of PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360, it is likely to regain the Wii's position as the cheapest choice of console once Sony and Microsoft's next-gen machines launch.

"The price is only high relative to the current-generation consoles," Pachter explained. "If Microsoft and Sony cooperate by charging $399 or more for their next-generation consoles, I don't think that Nintendo's $349 price point is too high, particularly as the console bundle includes a pretty good first-party title."

"Consumer sentiment towards hardware price points generally equate to the value the consumer receives from the overall experience," Divnich concluded. "If the Wii U can deliver a strong high-quality software library, backed by an enjoyable digital media experience, we would argue no price cut is needed."

Nintendo has never chosen to go the easy route - eschewing the traditional console hardware race, betting big on motion gaming, adding extra screens, colouring their consoles purple. Should the company be worried by the Wii U's initial performance? Sales figures from Europe and the recent downward trend in Japan are worrying, but it is heartening to see the company already begin to correct course, announcing new games and teasing future collaborations. Has the company done enough to hold firm on in its financial forecast? We'll find out soon enough. But make no mistake - this week's financial results will be one of the most important in Nintendo's history.

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#2 fernandmondego_
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Not surprised. Though it's all an illusion it's actually selling like hotcakes.
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#3 DarkLink77
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People are waiting on games. That's it. Like the analysts said, it'll sell once the games are there. So expect better numbers this holiday.

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The only game that is worth getting a WiiU for is Bayonetta 2.
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#5 LegatoSkyheart
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There's nothing to get excited over it right now.

No 3rd Party Games except for like Rayman and Nothing First Party till March.

I'm hoping Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate boosts the Sales a bit.

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And when they announce Mario Kart U, Smash Bros. U, Zelda U, 3D Mario U and all the other sh!t they have up their sleeves at this E3, it'll start tearing off the shelves. Xmas 2013 is going to be a wonderful year for gaming sales. I can almost guarantee that Nintendo planned all of this from a marketing perspective even before the damn thing came out. They knew that in order to take advantage of the waning market, they will have to WOW people before summer, and get momentum going before Xmas. MS and Sony are going to have a hard time competing with Smash Bros U at E3 this year.
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And people thinking it's just an add-on for the Wii...good job marketing
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And when they announce Mario Kart U, Smash Bros. U, Zelda U, 3D Mario U and all the other sh!t they have up their sleeves at this E3, it'll start tearing off the shelves. Xmas 2013 is going to be a wonderful year for gaming sales. I can almost guarantee that Nintendo planned all of this from a marketing perspective even before the damn thing came out. They knew that in order to take advantage of the waning market, they will have to WOW people before summer, and get momentum going before Xmas. MS and Sony are going to have a hard time competing with Smash Bros U at E3 this year.Zeviander

Holiday 2013 might be a battle ground for sure.

Xbox 360s with Kinects, Durango maybe, PS3s, Wiis, and WiiUs and all of the Holiday Games and Call of Dutys.

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[QUOTE="Zeviander"]And when they announce Mario Kart U, Smash Bros. U, Zelda U, 3D Mario U and all the other sh!t they have up their sleeves at this E3, it'll start tearing off the shelves. Xmas 2013 is going to be a wonderful year for gaming sales. I can almost guarantee that Nintendo planned all of this from a marketing perspective even before the damn thing came out. They knew that in order to take advantage of the waning market, they will have to WOW people before summer, and get momentum going before Xmas. MS and Sony are going to have a hard time competing with Smash Bros U at E3 this year.

Sounds like Gamecube, just wait for the MEGATON.
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And when they announce Mario Kart U, Smash Bros. U, Zelda U, 3D Mario U and all the other sh!t they have up their sleeves at this E3, it'll start tearing off the shelves. Xmas 2013 is going to be a wonderful year for gaming sales. I can almost guarantee that Nintendo planned all of this from a marketing perspective even before the damn thing came out. They knew that in order to take advantage of the waning market, they will have to WOW people before summer, and get momentum going before Xmas. MS and Sony are going to have a hard time competing with Smash Bros U at E3 this year.Zeviander
I was agreeing with everything you said right up to the last part.

I think you may have it in reverse since there's just nothing like new next gen console reveals along with their launch games, :D

I'll leave it as, we shall see.

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Casuals don't care too much about consoles... Its all about tablets and smart phones for casual gaming, and the gaming audience are waiting for better exclusives to hit. Personally I'm waiting till this E3, if Nintendo doesn't sell it to me and the other consoles have better looking games and more announcements I may hold out on the Wii U until its very cheap(3 years down the road)
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Seems like it's going to have a much harder time since no western 3rd party devs want to support it. But Nintendo should be able to save the platform with their games alone.
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]I think you may have it in reverse since there's just nothing like new next gen console reveals along with their launch games, :D I'll leave it as, we shall see.

Yeah, nothing like Kinect 2.0 and 5999 USD (Kaz Hirai recently says he doesn't want to "cheapen" the Sony brand by cutting costs). There are going to be people blowing their loads all over the shiny graphics, but I doubt we'll see anything more than what we did last gen. MS selling big tech at a loss, and Sony copying Nintendo half-heartedly while trying to sell their brand name to people with lots of disposable income. I can SMELL the negative criticism already forming over the new consoles. Only gamers who buy every platform and exclusive are going to get excited about this year's E3. I'm already really doubting my interest in both the Kinextbox and the PS4... if their performance over the past three years is indicative of anything (and I believe I already mentioned that I have little interest in any IP they currently offer; multiplats and Nintendo are where I am concentrating my interests now).
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[QUOTE="Zeviander"]And when they announce Mario Kart U, Smash Bros. U, Zelda U, 3D Mario U and all the other sh!t they have up their sleeves at this E3, it'll start tearing off the shelves. Xmas 2013 is going to be a wonderful year for gaming sales. I can almost guarantee that Nintendo planned all of this from a marketing perspective even before the damn thing came out. They knew that in order to take advantage of the waning market, they will have to WOW people before summer, and get momentum going before Xmas. MS and Sony are going to have a hard time competing with Smash Bros U at E3 this year.SecretPolice

I was agreeing with everything you said right up to the last part.

I think you may have it in reverse since there's just nothing like new next gen console reveals along with their launch games, :D

I'll leave it as, we shall see.

I completely agree... What sells a console to me is its launch, hype and announced games. Its the whole reason why a lot of people have left E3 after the Wii U conference confused and flat out disinterested.
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[QUOTE="Zeviander"]And when they announce Mario Kart U, Smash Bros. U, Zelda U, 3D Mario U and all the other sh!t they have up their sleeves at this E3, it'll start tearing off the shelves. Xmas 2013 is going to be a wonderful year for gaming sales. I can almost guarantee that Nintendo planned all of this from a marketing perspective even before the damn thing came out. They knew that in order to take advantage of the waning market, they will have to WOW people before summer, and get momentum going before Xmas. MS and Sony are going to have a hard time competing with Smash Bros U at E3 this year.

New consoles>software from any company, all day long.
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Every store has a WII U IN STOCK sign. I was deciding between a Wii U and a 3DS. I went with the 3DS.

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The launch lineup is no excuse. The Wii launched with crap as well, yet sold double the amount in the first weekend.
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The launch lineup is no excuse. The Wii launched with crap as well, yet sold double the amount in the first weekend. RR360DD
The Wii launched with a Zelda game.
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After seeing the PS3 turn it around, anything's possible.

Then again, the PS3 was the most technically capable console at launch, it just needed the right software and a massive price cut.

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Every store has a WII U IN STOCK sign. I was deciding between a Wii U and a 3DS. I went with the 3DS.

Bread_or_Decide
Good choice. I plan on getting the Pikachu edition 3DS XL :D.
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Every store has a WII U IN STOCK sign. I was deciding between a Wii U and a 3DS. I went with the 3DS.

Bread_or_Decide

Not entirely, I went to my Walmart and PS3s and WiiUs were out of stock.

Skylanders 360s were still (trying) to sell.

Also great time to buy a 3DS, Fire Emblem Awakening comes out next week.

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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]The launch lineup is no excuse. The Wii launched with crap as well, yet sold double the amount in the first weekend. DarkLink77
The Wii launched with a Zelda game.

Yeah twilight princess. Like I said, the Wii launched with crap.
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]The launch lineup is no excuse. The Wii launched with crap as well, yet sold double the amount in the first weekend. RR360DD
The Wii launched with a Zelda game.

Yeah twilight princess. Like I said, the Wii launched with crap.

Twilight Princess is one of the best Zelda games ever made, and quality aside, Zelda games sell systems. The attach rate of the Wii version of TP was somewhere upwards of 80%. It was f*cking insane.
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]The launch lineup is no excuse. The Wii launched with crap as well, yet sold double the amount in the first weekend. RR360DD
The Wii launched with a Zelda game.

Yeah twilight princess. Like I said, the Wii launched with crap.

Twilight Princess, while being a mediocre Zelda game, was still one of the better games this gen.
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]I think you may have it in reverse since there's just nothing like new next gen console reveals along with their launch games, :D I'll leave it as, we shall see.Zeviander
Yeah, nothing like Kinect 2.0 and 5999 USD (Kaz Hirai recently says he doesn't want to "cheapen" the Sony brand by cutting costs). There are going to be people blowing their loads all over the shiny graphics, but I doubt we'll see anything more than what we did last gen. MS selling big tech at a loss, and Sony copying Nintendo half-heartedly while trying to sell their brand name to people with lots of disposable income. I can SMELL the negative criticism already forming over the new consoles. Only gamers who buy every platform and exclusive are going to get excited about this year's E3. I'm already really doubting my interest in both the Kinextbox and the PS4... if their performance over the past three years is indicative of anything (and I believe I already mentioned that I have little interest in any IP they currently offer; multiplats and Nintendo are where I am concentrating my interests now).

Perhaps it's just me but what you said comes off as a bit unreasonable I mean, calling the next MS console the Kinect 2.0, seems you already passed judgment on something sight unseen. Of course unless you have seen, experienced the new MS & Sony consoles :shock: In that case, please do share with the rest of us here in SW

Oh well, like I said before, I'll leave it as we shall see

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[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] The Wii launched with a Zelda game.DarkLink77
Yeah twilight princess. Like I said, the Wii launched with crap.

Twilight Princess is one of the best Zelda games ever made, and quality aside, Zelda games sell systems. The attach rate of the Wii version of TP was somewhere upwards of 80%. It was f*cking insane.

Not really. It didn't sell the Gamecube and no one bought a Wii for Zelda. SS didn't sell all that great for what is supposed to be a massive franchise on a console with a 100M userbase.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="RR360DD"] Yeah twilight princess. Like I said, the Wii launched with crap.fernandmondego_

Twilight Princess is one of the best Zelda games ever made, and quality aside, Zelda games sell systems. The attach rate of the Wii version of TP was somewhere upwards of 80%. It was f*cking insane.

Not really. It didn't sell the Gamecube and no one bought a Wii for Zelda. SS didn't sell all that great for what is supposed to be a massive franchise on a console with a 100M userbase.

You're kidding right?

It was possibly one of the most hyped up things about the Wii.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="RR360DD"] Yeah twilight princess. Like I said, the Wii launched with crap.fernandmondego_

Twilight Princess is one of the best Zelda games ever made, and quality aside, Zelda games sell systems. The attach rate of the Wii version of TP was somewhere upwards of 80%. It was f*cking insane.

Not really. It didn't sell the Gamecube and no one bought a Wii for Zelda. SS didn't sell all that great for what is supposed to be a massive franchise on a console with a 100M userbase.

It came out and the end of the Gamecube's life. And you're nuts if you don't think TP solds Wiis.
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People are waiting on games. That's it. Like the analysts said, it'll sell once the games are there. So expect better numbers this holiday.

DarkLink77
Exactly. Same thing happened to the PS3 it was struggling until the games came out.
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[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Twilight Princess is one of the best Zelda games ever made, and quality aside, Zelda games sell systems. The attach rate of the Wii version of TP was somewhere upwards of 80%. It was f*cking insane.DarkLink77

Not really. It didn't sell the Gamecube and no one bought a Wii for Zelda. SS didn't sell all that great for what is supposed to be a massive franchise on a console with a 100M userbase.

It came out and the end of the Gamecube's life. And you're nuts if you don't think TP solds Wiis.

Actually, you're nuts if you think it did. As for SS, who cares when it came out? It had 100M userbase to itself for a year and still didn't put up amazing numbers. Halo 2 came out at the end of the Xbox life and it was selling to 1/4 to userbase and it still sold millions more. Halo 4 was just released and it sold millions and the 360 is about to be replaced and has 3/4 the userbase.

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Hardware will not sell if it doesn't have the software to justify it. I mean, just look at the Vita.
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[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Twilight Princess is one of the best Zelda games ever made, and quality aside, Zelda games sell systems. The attach rate of the Wii version of TP was somewhere upwards of 80%. It was f*cking insane.LegatoSkyheart

Not really. It didn't sell the Gamecube and no one bought a Wii for Zelda. SS didn't sell all that great for what is supposed to be a massive franchise on a console with a 100M userbase.

You're kidding right?

It was possibly one of the most hyped up things about the Wii.

No, not really. The majority of Wii buyers were not buying it for Zelda.
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Perhaps it's just me but what you said comes off as a bit unreasonable I mean, calling the next MS console the Kinect 2.0, seems you already passed judgment on something sight unseen. Of course unless you have seen, experienced the new MS & Sony consoles :shock: In that case, please do share with the rest of us here in SW Oh well, like I said before, I'll leave it as we shall seeSecretPolice
Sorry... I guess "Windows 8 Kinect" might work better. I have absolutely no doubts in my mind, given all the moves MS has been making towards unifying all their platforms under the Windows 8 OS, that the Nextbox will be a closed-platform PC that uses Kinect 2.0 and a gamepad as an interface. I also have no doubts that Kinect 2.0 will be a mandatory part of the system. It's why I've decided to go U/PC this gen, and get the most games on the least number of platforms. Last gen I had too many platforms and games spread out over all of them. Had I bought a PC in 2008 instead of a 360, I likely would not own a 360 or PS3 now.
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#34 HaRmLeSS_RaGe
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If Nintendo can get 2 or 3 of their big games released in time for the other next gen releases, then the Wii U has to become a serious consideration as my first next gen console purchase.

I doubt they will though so it will most likely be NextBox for me.

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I can see the same thing happening for all console developers this gen. Last gen was so mainstream that you really couldn't look anywhere and not see a video game console.

The Wii U will do fine on it's own as Nintendo is making profit from the console so I'm not entirely worried about the machine as a whole. It does have some good games heading it's way and that's also a plus. We also have as of now, games we haven't seen yet that we will see at E3.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="fernandmondego_"] Not really. It didn't sell the Gamecube and no one bought a Wii for Zelda. SS didn't sell all that great for what is supposed to be a massive franchise on a console with a 100M userbase.

fernandmondego_

It came out and the end of the Gamecube's life. And you're nuts if you don't think TP solds Wiis.

Actually, you're nuts if you think it did. As for SS, who cares when it came out? It had 100M userbase to itself for a year and still didn't put up amazing numbers. Halo 2 came out at the end of the Xbox life and it was selling to 1/4 to userbase and it still sold millions more. Halo 4 was just released and it sold millions and the 360 is about to be replaced and has 3/4 the userbase.

I was referring to TP, not SS. I thought that was obvious considering we were discussing the Gamecube. And again, I reiterate: 80% + attach rate. If that's not a system seller I don't know what is.
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If Nintendo can get 2 or 3 of their big games released in time for the other next gen releases, then the Wii U has to become a serious consideration as my first next gen console purchase.
I doubt they will though so it will most likely be NextBox for me.HaRmLeSS_RaGe
I think the next 3d mario and mario kart are sleighted for a holiday release. Pikmin's also coming out sometime during the summer as well

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#38 JohnF111
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Crysis 3 isn't going to the Wii U???? That's an insane thing to do, it would be the absolute pinnacle of showing off the system to the world in terms of it's superiority over current consoles. I'm guessing that was EA rather than Nintendo.

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[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] It came out and the end of the Gamecube's life. And you're nuts if you don't think TP solds Wiis.DarkLink77

Actually, you're nuts if you think it did. As for SS, who cares when it came out? It had 100M userbase to itself for a year and still didn't put up amazing numbers. Halo 2 came out at the end of the Xbox life and it was selling to 1/4 to userbase and it still sold millions more. Halo 4 was just released and it sold millions and the 360 is about to be replaced and has 3/4 the userbase.

I was referring to TP, not SS. I thought that was obvious considering we were discussing the Gamecube. And again, I reiterate: 80% + attach rate. If that's not a system seller I don't know what is.

I was also referring to TP. TP didn't sell Wii's Wii sold TP (the Wii's launch line up was absolutely terrible). It was the only game on the system that didn't already come packed in. Look at the numbers the Wii was putting up, Zelda quickly died out. If Zelda was still the big franchise that everyone here seems to think it is than WW would have done more for the GC and SS would have sold much more than it did. Even Fable 2 and 3 sold more than SS.
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#40 HaRmLeSS_RaGe
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[QUOTE="HaRmLeSS_RaGe"]If Nintendo can get 2 or 3 of their big games released in time for the other next gen releases, then the Wii U has to become a serious consideration as my first next gen console purchase.
I doubt they will though so it will most likely be NextBox for me.Shinobishyguy

I think the next 3d mario and mario kart are sleighted for a holiday release. Pikmin's also coming out sometime during the summer as well

I don't really class Pikmin and Mario Kart as big Nintendo games (though they are still very good). It would have to be a 3D Mario + Metroid or something like that to convince me to purchase the Wii U before anything else.

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Consoles with a better launch lineup than the Wii: Super Nintendo Xbox ??? I personally bought the Wii for TP, and I know several others who did the same. WW required a peripheral to play. Considering that, I think its sales were pretty good.
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Haha! Serves them right for inexplicably pulling an Xbox 1 on their best selling console ever. They should have treated that thing like a princess.

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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="HaRmLeSS_RaGe"]If Nintendo can get 2 or 3 of their big games released in time for the other next gen releases, then the Wii U has to become a serious consideration as my first next gen console purchase.
I doubt they will though so it will most likely be NextBox for me.HaRmLeSS_RaGe

I think the next 3d mario and mario kart are sleighted for a holiday release. Pikmin's also coming out sometime during the summer as well

I don't really class Pikmin and Mario Kart as big Nintendo games (though they are still very good). It would have to be a 3D Mario + Metroid or something like that to convince me to purchase the Wii U before anything else.

Mario Kart did sell more than both Galaxy games and Metroid plus Zelda games combined. Granted, do to the wheel Mario Kart became one of the games that the Wii was known for (along with Wii Sports).
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[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"]Consoles with a better launch lineup than the Wii: Super Nintendo Xbox ??? I personally bought the Wii for TP, and I know several others who did the same. WW required a peripheral to play. Considering that, I think its sales were pretty good.

What did WW need?
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[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"]Consoles with a better launch lineup than the Wii: Super Nintendo Xbox ??? I personally bought the Wii for TP, and I know several others who did the same. WW required a peripheral to play. Considering that, I think its sales were pretty good.fernandmondego_
What did WW need?

It required Wii Motion +.

EDIT: Sorry, I meant Skyward Sword.

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It was the gimmick that sold the Wii, and consequently the Wii version of TP. The Gamecube version was better (however both are still garbage games)
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[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"][QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"]Consoles with a better launch lineup than the Wii: Super Nintendo Xbox ??? I personally bought the Wii for TP, and I know several others who did the same. WW required a peripheral to play. Considering that, I think its sales were pretty good.PurpleMan5000

What did WW need?

It required Wii Motion +.

EDIT: Sorry, I meant Skyward Sword.

But OoT required the ram expansion pack and it still sold 2X more to a 1/3 the user base. It's not that Zelda doesn't sell well, it's just not the massive franchise it used to be.
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But OoT required the ram expansion pack fernandmondego_
Nope that was MM only.
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#49 glez13
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The day that the Nintendo first party army fails to keep the ship floating should be the day that people should post stuff like this.

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[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Twilight Princess is one of the best Zelda games ever made, and quality aside, Zelda games sell systems. The attach rate of the Wii version of TP was somewhere upwards of 80%. It was f*cking insane.LegatoSkyheart

Not really. It didn't sell the Gamecube and no one bought a Wii for Zelda. SS didn't sell all that great for what is supposed to be a massive franchise on a console with a 100M userbase.

You're kidding right?

It was possibly one of the most hyped up things about the Wii.

I'd say Wii Sports and the hype for the controller sold the Wii. The WiiU has no Wii Sports, although Nintendoland seems good I don't think it has the same appeal Wii Sports had. Regarding the controller every electronic device from cameras to cash machines have a touch screen, so it doesn't have the appeal of the Wiimote either. Zelda while sells well, and is a big thing for the Nintendo fans and gaming media press doesn't have anywhere near the selling power of Mario and Pokemon.