No More Heroes a Flop in Japan?

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#1 asdasd
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http://kotaku.com/gaming/suda51/mini+skirt-or-not-no-more-customers-331771.php

Ouch.. The devs signing copies, free toilet paper , and a girl in a miniskirt, and not one copy bought? I dont wanna see this game flop :( It better come out in the states soon.

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#2 richest_boy
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ouch. that must sting a tad!

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#3 TalesofRaGnArOk
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The saddest thing I've heard in awhile

and with free toilet paper, mini skirts,etc...

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#4 Sgt_Crow
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BLASPHEMY! WHO DOESN'T WANT FREE TOILET PAPER?! :(
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#5 Planeforger
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Didn't Suda say that he wanted this game to appeal to a western audience?
If so, then this news isn't that bad...
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#6 Erebyssial
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There's a reason for the Buy No More Heroes Campaign, we don't want this game to not be noticed. I hope it starts to sell better there, as well as when it gets released everywhere else. Why does Japan refuse to acknowledge hardcore games? grrr
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#7 Eponique
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What? This game sold more in one day, then Killer7 did in its lifetime :?
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#8 laughingman42
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What? This game sold more in one day, then Killer7 did in its lifetime :?Eponique

It did? How many did it sell?

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#9 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Didn't Suda say that he wanted this game to appeal to a western audience?
If so, then this news isn't that bad...
Planeforger
Still, look how sad they look in that picture trying to give away free TP.
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#10 laughingman42
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There's a reason for the Buy No More Heroes Campaign, we don't want this game to not be noticed. I hope it starts to sell better there, as well as when it gets released everywhere else. Why does Japan refuse to acknowledge hardcore games? grrrErebyssial

I dont get it either. Outside of JRPGs, Dynasty warriors, and Gundam with a little bit of nintendo first party stuff thrown in almost everything that is selling in Japan is non-gamer stuff.

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#11 Eponique
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[QUOTE="Eponique"]What? This game sold more in one day, then Killer7 did in its lifetime :?laughingman42

It did? How many did it sell?

No More Heroes sold 10k in its first day.

Killer7 sold 6k in its first week and dissappeared off the charts. The Famitsu2003 Top 500, Killer7 was nowhere to be found, the 500th game selling 15k copies.

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#12 BlackDianWei
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I'll take the girl in the mini-skirt :)
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#13 Fhiz
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japan is getting ridiculous now. I'm talking about every system. If a game isn't a training game, mario, dragon warrior, or final fantasy, it's gonna suck sales wise out there.
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#14 JayPee89
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It will flop here too. When will you sheep stop hyping 3rd party Wii games?
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It will sell more in U.S, Killer 7 did ok.
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#16 Sgt_Crow
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It will flop here too. When will you sheep stop hyping 3rd party Wii games?JayPee89

Hmm, because this actually is a good game with a lot of promise? :|

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[QUOTE="JayPee89"]It will flop here too. When will you sheep stop hyping 3rd party Wii games?Sgt_Crow

Hmm, because this actually is a good game with a lot of promise? :|

Really?
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japan is getting ridiculous now. I'm talking about every system. If a game isn't a training game, mario, dragon warrior, or final fantasy, it's gonna suck sales wise out there.FlawlessSeasons

No kidding. People say its just the wii and the DS, but the big sellers on the PS3 have been what, Hot Shots Golf, Gundam, and Dynasty Warriors. Not exactly the epitome of quality or hardcore.

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#19 EmilioDigsIt
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That's so sad... if I was Suda, I'd be crying in my bathroom, curled up in the fetal position, begging Cthulhu to curse and banish everyone who owns a Wii but didnt buy a copy of my game.
Seriously, it plain sucks when Japan eats up a crappy RPG or train game but pays no attention to a creative gem. :(
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[QUOTE="JayPee89"]It will flop here too. When will you sheep stop hyping 3rd party Wii games?Sgt_Crow

Hmm, because this actually is a good game with a lot of promise? :|

I think the only reason people are fapping over this game is because of it's very appealing art style and humour. Gameplay looks rubbish. I'm going to play it because God Hand was alright and i liked the humour. But by NO MEANS am i expecting combat system to be anyway near the elite action games.

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[QUOTE="FlawlessSeasons"]japan is getting ridiculous now. I'm talking about every system. If a game isn't a training game, mario, dragon warrior, or final fantasy, it's gonna suck sales wise out there.laughingman42

No kidding. People say its just the wii and the DS, but the big sellers on the PS3 have been what, Hot Shots Golf, Gundam, and Dynasty Warriors. Not exactly the epitome of quality or hardcore.

DW owns.

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[QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"]

[QUOTE="JayPee89"]It will flop here too. When will you sheep stop hyping 3rd party Wii games?JayPee89

Hmm, because this actually is a good game with a lot of promise? :|

Really?

Yes, really.

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[QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"]

[QUOTE="JayPee89"]It will flop here too. When will you sheep stop hyping 3rd party Wii games?Sgt_Crow

Hmm, because this actually is a good game with a lot of promise? :|

Really?

Yes, really.

:lol: You listen to Matt and Bozon. They are worse than any sheep in SW.
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#24 Erebyssial
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[QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"]

[QUOTE="JayPee89"]It will flop here too. When will you sheep stop hyping 3rd party Wii games?JayPee89

Hmm, because this actually is a good game with a lot of promise? :|

Really?

lol 1up

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#25 Erebyssial
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[QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"]

[QUOTE="JayPee89"]It will flop here too. When will you sheep stop hyping 3rd party Wii games?JayPee89

Hmm, because this actually is a good game with a lot of promise? :|

Really?

Yes, really.

:lol: You listen to Matt and Bozon. They are worse than any sheep in SW.

No they are actually very un-biased editors.

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[QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"]

[QUOTE="JayPee89"]It will flop here too. When will you sheep stop hyping 3rd party Wii games?Erebyssial

Hmm, because this actually is a good game with a lot of promise? :|

Really?

lol 1up

More credible than GS, and IGN Nintendo put together.
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#27 Bread_or_Decide
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Suda makes weird games. Unfortunately weird games are not normally a mainstream affair.

Count me in for one copy sold when its released here. But it probably won't sell too well here either.

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[QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"]

[QUOTE="JayPee89"]It will flop here too. When will you sheep stop hyping 3rd party Wii games?Erebyssial

Hmm, because this actually is a good game with a lot of promise? :|

Really?

Yes, really.

:lol: You listen to Matt and Bozon. They are worse than any sheep in SW.

No they are actually very un-biased editors.

:roll:
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[QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"]

[QUOTE="JayPee89"]It will flop here too. When will you sheep stop hyping 3rd party Wii games?JayPee89

Hmm, because this actually is a good game with a lot of promise? :|

Really?

Yes, really.

:lol: You listen to Matt and Bozon. They are worse than any sheep in SW.

You listen to 1up. :|

... :lol:

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#30 Erebyssial
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[QUOTE="Erebyssial"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"]

[QUOTE="JayPee89"]It will flop here too. When will you sheep stop hyping 3rd party Wii games?JayPee89

Hmm, because this actually is a good game with a lot of promise? :|

Really?

lol 1up

More credible than GS, and IGN Nintendo put together.

l
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:lol: You listen to Matt and Bozon. They are worse than any sheep in SW.JayPee89

No they are actually very un-biased editors.

:roll:

They would be singing a diff tune if 1up had enjoyed the game.

Ya know, Killer 7 was a really tough game to like as well. The gameplay was downright horrid. It was the unique story and bizarre characters that made it worth playing. But the on-rails exploration/gun play was anything but fun.

Suda needs to go talk to Kojima on how to make FUN weird games. lol.

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#32 JayPee89
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[QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Erebyssial"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"]

[QUOTE="JayPee89"]It will flop here too. When will you sheep stop hyping 3rd party Wii games?Erebyssial

Hmm, because this actually is a good game with a lot of promise? :|

Really?

lol 1up

More credible than GS, and IGN Nintendo put together.

l
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Of course, you're a sheep. Matt and Bozon slurp everything associated to the Wii in previews, especially Matt. Then when the game is relesed it gets a 6.5. I understand though. You sheep keep on hyping this trash, and when it flops critically, and commercially remember who told you so.
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#33 MagnuzGuerra
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Like Killer 7, it's a "too diferent" game, that only a few people, myself included, will love.
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#34 laughingman42
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[QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"]

[QUOTE="JayPee89"]It will flop here too. When will you sheep stop hyping 3rd party Wii games?JayPee89

Hmm, because this actually is a good game with a lot of promise? :|

Really?

Yes really. IGN and nintendo power love the game and IGN>1up

and it got 9/9/8/8 from famitsu (I think that spelling is way off)

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#35 Kratos_OMEGA
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[QUOTE="JayPee89"]

:lol: You listen to Matt and Bozon. They are worse than any sheep in SW.Bread_or_Decide

No they are actually very un-biased editors.

:roll:

They would be singing a diff tune if 1up had enjoyed the game.

Ya know, Killer 7 was a really tough game to like as well. The gameplay was downright horrid. It was the unique story and bizarre characters that made it worth playing. But the on-rails exploration/gun play was anything but fun.

Suda needs to go talk to Kojima on how to make FUN weird games. lol.

This is how NMH will turn out, great story, funny and really good artstyle but crap gameplay. K7 was horrible to play.

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#36 Bread_or_Decide
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Like Killer 7, it's a "too diferent" game, that only a few people, myself included, will love.MagnuzGuerra

Art-house games...much like art-house films..dont do well commercially. Ya know sometimes its not about how many copies you sell and I do think critics are going to tear this game a new one but I think when seen as more of an experiment one can go easier on the game and try to understand what Suda was really going for when creating this game.

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#37 enduin
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Anyone who expected NMH to sell well at all is dillusional, especially in Japan. Hopefully Ubisoft will put a solid effort in advertising come february, but even then I dont expect very good sales. Suda is amazing and NMH is my most awaited game, but hes not for everybody and slight technical issues will make sure NMH wont get a very good review from any important site only hurting sales even more.

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#38 JayPee89
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[QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"]

[QUOTE="JayPee89"]It will flop here too. When will you sheep stop hyping 3rd party Wii games?Sgt_Crow

Hmm, because this actually is a good game with a lot of promise? :|

Really?

Yes, really.

:lol: You listen to Matt and Bozon. They are worse than any sheep in SW.

You listen to 1up. :|

... :lol:

You don't? I know they may be off on some of their reviews(Bully?) but they are always honest and up front in their previews unlike IGN and GS. 1up may not have the flash of the other 2, butwhen it comes to substance they are 2nd to none. 1up show > On theSpot, 1up Staff > GS staff, Uncensored > Censored
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Oh and be assured this game will TANK in the states.

Feb 5th - No More Heroes

Feb 10th - Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Yup.

TANK.

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[QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"]

[QUOTE="JayPee89"]It will flop here too. When will you sheep stop hyping 3rd party Wii games?JayPee89

Hmm, because this actually is a good game with a lot of promise? :|

Really?

Yes, really.

:lol: You listen to Matt and Bozon. They are worse than any sheep in SW.

You listen to 1up. :|

... :lol:

You don't? I know they may be off on some of their reviews(Bully?) but they are always honest and up front in their previews unlike IGN and GS. 1up may not have the flash of the other 2, butwhen it comes to substance they are 2nd to none. 1up show > On theSpot, 1up Staff> GS staff

I listen to no one but myself.
Seriously, I could care less about sales or scores. The only reason I linked you to IGN is because you obviously DO care about those opinions.
I find it fun to read reviews to give me an idea of how a game is, but it's not gonna change my opinion most of the time.

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#41 laughingman42
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Oh and be assured this game will TANK in the states.

Feb 5th - No More Heroes

Feb 10th - Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Yup.

TANK.

Bread_or_Decide

kinda like what Capcom did releasing Zack and Wiki right before SMG.

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#42 Kratos_OMEGA
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Oh and be assured this game will TANK in the states.

Feb 5th - No More Heroes

Feb 10th - Super Smash Brothers Brawl

Yup.

TANK.

Bread_or_Decide

Ouch. Stupid publishers, what a crap time to release it.

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[QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"]

[QUOTE="JayPee89"]It will flop here too. When will you sheep stop hyping 3rd party Wii games?Sgt_Crow

Hmm, because this actually is a good game with a lot of promise? :|

Really?

Yes, really.

:lol: You listen to Matt and Bozon. They are worse than any sheep in SW.

You listen to 1up. :|

... :lol:

You don't? I know they may be off on some of their reviews(Bully?) but they are always honest and up front in their previews unlike IGN and GS. 1up may not have the flash of the other 2, butwhen it comes to substance they are 2nd to none. 1up show > On theSpot, 1up Staff> GS staff

I listen to no one but myself.
Seriously, I could care less about sales or scores. The only reason I linked you to IGN is because you obviously DO care about those opinions.
I find it fun to read reviews to give me an idea of how a game is, but it's not gonna change my opinion most of the time.

So if NMH gets a 6.0 that won't change your opinion?
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#44 Sgt_Crow
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[QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"]

[QUOTE="JayPee89"]It will flop here too. When will you sheep stop hyping 3rd party Wii games?JayPee89

Hmm, because this actually is a good game with a lot of promise? :|

Really?

Yes, really.

:lol: You listen to Matt and Bozon. They are worse than any sheep in SW.

You listen to 1up. :|

... :lol:

You don't? I know they may be off on some of their reviews(Bully?) but they are always honest and up front in their previews unlike IGN and GS. 1up may not have the flash of the other 2, butwhen it comes to substance they are 2nd to none. 1up show > On theSpot, 1up Staff> GS staff

I listen to no one but myself.
Seriously, I could care less about sales or scores. The only reason I linked you to IGN is because you obviously DO care about those opinions.
I find it fun to read reviews to give me an idea of how a game is, but it's not gonna change my opinion most of the time.

So if NMH gets a 6.0 that won't change your opinion?

No. :|
Gamespot gave Red Steel a 5.5, I gave it an 8.0.

I can only judge afer I played the game, a stupid score ain't gonna let me from playing it.

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#45 Erebyssial
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Honestly I don't think the opinion of one site should stop people wanting to get this game, and like they said, there might even be some changes to the english version.
When a wide range of sites give the game some crap scores, then I think it's a bit more safe to bash it.
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#46 MagnuzGuerra
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Actually I liked the gameplay from Killer 7... I don't understand why so many people hate it. It tests how well you can keep your control and concentration. People are so desperate to blow up things without worries? :lol: I guess NMH will suffer from this very same problem: strange gameplay. How I miss the late 80's-early 90's: game developers, animation studios, and every other entertainment producer were acclaimed for being creative. Now, they are acclaimed only it they make a technically superior product. ugh.
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#47 EmilioDigsIt
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The only problem that I have with this game is that it is being published by Ubisoft. I swear to Jesus and his back up band, that they better not pull any crap with it. I don't even want to see their stinking logo on the front of the box!
Phewww...

But yeah, what was Capcom thinking of putting out Z&W before Galaxy? And now we get NMH before Brawl... that's just a dumb dumb move.
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#48 enduin
Member since 2003 • 1364 Posts
[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

They would be singing a diff tune if 1up had enjoyed the game.

Ya know, Killer 7 was a really tough game to like as well. The gameplay was downright horrid. It was the unique story and bizarre characters that made it worth playing. But the on-rails exploration/gun play was anything but fun.

Suda needs to go talk to Kojima on how to make FUN weird games. lol.

Kratos_OMEGA

This is how NMH will turn out, great story, funny and really good artstyle but crap gameplay. K7 was horrible to play.

There really was nothing wrong with Killer 7s gameplay it wasnt broken or buggy, I liked it, it was solid and served its purpose, but I guess some people are too impatient . NMH from all the previews I have seen of the game, which is probably a dozen since it was released, there has been overwhelming praise of how fun and great the gameplay is, despite its simplicity. It isnt broken or wanky, but does everything right and is extremely satisfying.

If you want to get a good review of the game check out sp0rsk's review on NeoGAF. NMH will be a game reviewers wont have any other choice but to give mediocre scores for its technical issues, but it will probably be praised otherwise for its freshness and originality and then demonized by others for being excessively violent and perversive but who really cares about those people.

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#49 Erebyssial
Member since 2007 • 2903 Posts
Nintendo should have spread their releases out a bit, or the publishers if it's them.
Too many top Wii games came out in November.
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#50 Eponique
Member since 2007 • 17918 Posts
[QUOTE="Erebyssial"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Sgt_Crow"]

[QUOTE="JayPee89"]It will flop here too. When will you sheep stop hyping 3rd party Wii games?JayPee89

Hmm, because this actually is a good game with a lot of promise? :|

Really?

lol 1up

More credible than GS, and IGN Nintendo put together.

LOL. Opposite day today or what?

1UP is like Microsoft Defence Force, save the podcast.