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"Ever since Final Fantasy XIII was announced for the Xbox 360 at E3 2008, many began to wonder if the Playstation 3 exclusive Final Fantasy Versus XIII would also follow suit. Tetsuya Nomura, the director of the upcoming game, recent posted the following message regarding this matter on Twitter (via Andriasang):

"Multiplatform is when you start development on a game with the assumption of optimizing for multiple platforms. Porting is something that's done after you've developed a game specifically for a particular platforms. The debate over porting is decided by the management based off the current market and the costs. All I can say right now as a developer is that Versus is being developed specifically for the PlayStation 3."

That particular statement sounds like it is ultimately up to "management" as to whether or not Final Fantasy Versus XIII would be ported to the Xbox 360 and become a multiplatform title. For now, Tetsuya Nomura is concentrating on developing the game for the Playstation 3.

Final Fantasy Versus XIII still has no official release date."

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#2 tonitorsi
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Final Fantasy sells, performs, and scores better on the PS3. FFv13 will most definetly stay on the PS3.

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#3 davidkamayor
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Can you say 5 discs?

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#4 mysterj
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So the current development is specifically built for PS3? That's good news for cows. Although porting it to 360 wouldn't really be that hard if they decide to make it multiplat.
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#5 GulliversTravel
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Whatever it is, chances are Nomura is really going to exploit the PS3 in the way Kojima did for MGS4 to the extent that porting to the 360 would be far too lengthy and costly.
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#6 bigboss5ak
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It'll come.
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#7 Jipset
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Can you say 5 discs?

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It would be more like 4 discs. :P
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#8 GulliversTravel
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Final Fantasy sells, performs, and scores better on the PS3. FFv13 will most definetly stay on the PS3.

tonitorsi
Money is also made on other platforms, you know the primary driving force of a company:?
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#9 Fightingfan
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Final Fantasy sells, performs, and scores better on the PS3. FFv13 will most definetly stay on the PS3.

tonitorsi
Actually wouldn't it be a good business move to just make it multiplat? I'm sure FF13 on xbox sold well just not well when compared to the Ps3 version.
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#10 AznKSor
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Prepare to have this thread be attacked :?

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Final Fantasy sells, performs, and scores better on the PS3. FFv13 will most definetly stay on the PS3.

tonitorsi

Just like fxiii?

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#12 hexashadow13
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FFXIII Versus 360 confirmed.
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#13 AznKSor
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Personally i dun care if Versus goes multiplat just don't be touching my Kingdom Hearts 3 :lol:

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#14 painguy1
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fxiii sold better on the 360...so yeah. if SE likes money it will come on the 360

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Cool, so lems can look forward to playing this game in 2012 too.

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fxiii sold better on the 360...so yeah. if SE likes money it will come on the 360

painguy1
You serious? Ps3 version smashed 360 version in sales.
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#17 Giancar
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I will come, this is not a surprise at all

fxiii sold better on the 360...so yeah. if SE likes money it will come on the 360

painguy1
lolwut?
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fxiii sold better on the 360...so yeah. if SE likes money it will come on the 360

painguy1
What sales numbers were you looking at?
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#19 Fightingfan
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fxiii sold better on the 360...so yeah. if SE likes money it will come on the 360

painguy1
You're funny, the 360 version isn't even available world wide.
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#20 Jipset
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fxiii sold better on the 360...so yeah. if SE likes money it will come on the 360

painguy1
Um, no it didn't.
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#21 Silverbond
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Final Fantasy sells, performs, and scores better on the PS3. FFv13 will most definetly stay on the PS3.

tonitorsi

No one said it was leaving the PS3...

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#22 painguy1
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I will come, this is not a surprise at all [QUOTE="painguy1"]

fxiii sold better on the 360...so yeah. if SE likes money it will come on the 360

Giancar

lolwut?

ooops my bad. wrong info :P IGNORE MY BAD BAD EVIL MEAN POST hehe

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#23 Nintendonly
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^You guys got trolled by the hatless Mario guy.

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#24 GulliversTravel
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^You guys got trolled by the hatless Mario guy.

Nintendonly
People are really touchy here, almost half a dozen pounced on that post but forgot what was being discussed.
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#25 Giancar
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^You guys got trolled by the hatless Mario guy.

Nintendonly
nah, he just did a mistake
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Final Fantasy sells, performs, and scores better on the PS3. FFv13 will most definetly stay on the PS3.

tonitorsi
Final Fantasy sells not enough in this generation, Preforms? *yeah sorry no, that has nothing to do with the power of the ps3 or the power of the 360, it happens to do with a low port time of the 360 version and all around short run of optimization* and scores better? on gamespot where it matters they scored the same...but its just not enough, Sales on the ps3 is just not enough so it staying exclusive is very very very much in question.
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Whatever it is, chances are Nomura is really going to exploit the PS3 in the way Kojima did for MGS4 to the extent that porting to the 360 would be far too lengthy and costly.GulliversTravel
which is funny cause it took them less then a year for the 360 version of FF13. if they had just spent another 5 months optimizing it it wouldn't have preformed as badly as it did. same for MGS4 it could be done on the 360.
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[QUOTE="Nintendonly"]

^You guys got trolled by the hatless Mario guy.

GulliversTravel

People are really touchy here, almost half a dozen pounced on that post but forgot what was being discussed.

It's not really a big deal. FF XIII was the bigger of the two and this just means FF Vs. XIII will be ported to the 360 after it launches on the PS3 rather then at launch like FF XIII. It's pretty much expected that FF Vs. XIII will make a 360appearance at some point unless Nomura throws in gameplay and cutscenes that will span 5 DVD discs or something like that.

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[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"]Whatever it is, chances are Nomura is really going to exploit the PS3 in the way Kojima did for MGS4 to the extent that porting to the 360 would be far too lengthy and costly.WilliamRLBaker
which is funny cause it took them less then a year for the 360 version of FF13. if they had just spent another 5 months optimizing it it wouldn't have preformed as badly as it did. same for MGS4 it could be done on the 360.

Im not saying the 360 cant handle it, what im saying is that it could be made for the system in a way the porting would be highly difficult. Look at Capcom, they released a half-hearted port of Lost Planet yet did not bother with Dead Rising. Why? Simply because that was their first MT game, and was built very specifically for the 360 meaning porting it to the PS3 would not be worth it. MGS4s engine is not very impressive and could easily run on the 360, but it was poorly developed and then later tailored to the PS3 hence why for Rising they ditched it (and also why they never bothered with a 360 version).
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#30 GulliversTravel
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[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"][QUOTE="Nintendonly"]

^You guys got trolled by the hatless Mario guy.

FlamesOfGrey

People are really touchy here, almost half a dozen pounced on that post but forgot what was being discussed.

It's not really a big deal. FF XIII was the bigger of the two and this just means FF Vs. XIII will be ported to the 360 after it launches on the PS3 rather then at launch like FF XIII. It's pretty much expected that FF Vs. XIII will make a 360appearance at some point unless Nomura throws in gameplay and cutscenes that will span 5 DVD discs or something like that.

Well i honestly believe that FFXIII was not affected by the decision to port to the 360, however, if it vXIII is released later than the PS3 version in the West, it will sell a lot worse. For this reason, we can expect another rush-job.
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#31 DJ-Lafleur
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Well, FFXIII actually sold quite well on the 360. Not as well as the PS3 obviously, but still, putting it on the 360 could work well in the end, maybe.

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[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

Well, FFXIII actually sold quite well on the 360. Not as well as the PS3 obviously, but still, putting it on the 360 could work well in the end, maybe.

Yeah I think porting it worked out pretty well for SE, I'm sure SE would do 360 port again if MS pays enough money.
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So the current development is specifically built for PS3? That's good news for cows. Although porting it to 360 wouldn't really be that hard if they decide to make it multiplat.mysterj
Depends how much Nomura dick moves it so that it's optimized for the PS3.

Despite being called a multiplatform engine nowadays Crystal Tools really is suited for the Cell.

Anyway, it will probably eventually come one way or another.

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"Multiplatform is when you start development on a game with the assumption of optimizing for multiple platforms. Porting is something that's done after you've developed a game specifically for a particular platforms. The debate over porting is decided by the management based off the current market and the costs. All I can say right now as a developer is that Versus is being developed specifically for the PlayStation 3."

What does this mean about FFXIII though?

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[QUOTE="tonitorsi"]

Final Fantasy sells, performs, and scores better on the PS3. FFv13 will most definetly stay on the PS3.

WilliamRLBaker

Final Fantasy sells not enough in this generation, Preforms? *yeah sorry no, that has nothing to do with the power of the ps3 or the power of the 360, it happens to do with a low port time of the 360 version and all around short run of optimization* and scores better? on gamespot where it matters they scored the same...but its just not enough, Sales on the ps3 is just not enough so it staying exclusive is very very very much in question.

It sold 5 million on the PS3 :?

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[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"][QUOTE="Nintendonly"]

^You guys got trolled by the hatless Mario guy.

FlamesOfGrey

People are really touchy here, almost half a dozen pounced on that post but forgot what was being discussed.

It's not really a big deal. FF XIII was the bigger of the two and this just means FF Vs. XIII will be ported to the 360 after it launches on the PS3 rather then at launch like FF XIII. It's pretty much expected that FF Vs. XIII will make a 360appearance at some point unless Nomura throws in gameplay and cutscenes that will span 5 DVD discs or something like that.

It's not a massive amount of cutscenes that will make it difficult to port, but rather really utilzing the PS3's odd hardware. The better a PS3 game uses the PS3 hardware, the harder it will be to port.

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Final Fantasy sells, performs, and scores better on the PS3. FFv13 will most definetly stay on the PS3.

tonitorsi

There are no absolutes when it comes to 3rd parties. I will say though, I've been all for VSXIII >>> XIII even before XIII was dubbed multiplatform. VSXIII might actually be the Final Fantasy that get's me back into the series.

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it will end up on 360, but as with final fantasy 13, it will be 540p on the 360 with downgraded 720p compressed CGI, ps3 version will be superior.
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#39 JVII
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Other than fanboys, who actually considered it exclusive after the main title went multiplat? I know I haven't, and I haven't cared since I found out it has an absolutely horrendous team behind it.

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I hope it goes to 360, as I got XIII for the 360. Still, if it stays PS3 i'll be picking it up anyway.

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Whatever it is, chances are Nomura is really going to exploit the PS3 in the way Kojima did for MGS4 to the extent that porting to the 360 would be far too lengthy and costly.GulliversTravel
To be fair, the tons of ingame Sony easter egg-marketing may have had more to do with that.

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FFXIII Versus 360 confirmed.hexashadow13
Lol this! Sounds like some corporate head honchos want to make FF VS 13 Multi-plat and basically he's saying in his own little vague way that he can't do utter **** about it :)
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What Im getting out of it is a PORT is still up in the air, but its not planned for the 360 as of now.

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[QUOTE="mysterj"]So the current development is specifically built for PS3? That's good news for cows. Although porting it to 360 wouldn't really be that hard if they decide to make it multiplat.shinrabanshou

Depends how much Nomura dick moves it so that it's optimized for the PS3.

Despite being called a multiplatform engine nowadays Crystal Tools really is suited for the Cell.

Anyway, it will probably eventually come one way or another.

Hmm, I think from game play perspecvtive, real time action game would be a lot harder to port than JRPG. Maybe 360 is not getting it after all.
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What Im getting out of it is a PORT is still up in the air, but its not planned for the 360 as of now.

Shirokishi_

Maybe it's up in the air, but he also said that it's not being made in the way a game that could be a potential multiplat would be made.

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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

What Im getting out of it is a PORT is still up in the air, but its not planned for the 360 as of now.

hakanakumono

Maybe it's up in the air, but he also said that it's not being made in the way a game that could be a potential multiplat would be made.

Really now? Didnt get that out of it but Ill take your word for it.

Im pretty tipsy right now -__-

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[QUOTE="hexashadow13"]FFXIII Versus 360 confirmed.killa4lyfe
Lol this! Sounds like some corporate head honchos want to make FF VS 13 Multi-plat and basically he's saying in his own little vague way that he can't do utter **** about it :)

It sounds more like he's saying: I'm making the game how I want to for the PS3's hardware, and if Wada wants to Bayonetta it then he can do it - but I'll have nothing to do with it. :/

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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

What Im getting out of it is a PORT is still up in the air, but its not planned for the 360 as of now.

Shirokishi_

Maybe it's up in the air, but he also said that it's not being made in the way a game that could be a potential multiplat would be made.

Really now? Didnt get that out of it but Ill take your word for it.

Im pretty tipsy right now -__-

He said that multiplat games are made with 2 consoles in mind, but this one is only being made specifically for the PS3 (1 console in mind).

Woah there. lol

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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

What Im getting out of it is a PORT is still up in the air, but its not planned for the 360 as of now.

hakanakumono

Maybe it's up in the air, but he also said that it's not being made in the way a game that could be a potential multiplat would be made.

how would they do it?

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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

What Im getting out of it is a PORT is still up in the air, but its not planned for the 360 as of now.

TheShadowLord07

Maybe it's up in the air, but he also said that it's not being made in the way a game that could be a potential multiplat would be made.

how would they do it?

Read his tweet.