Not So Hyped About GTA4
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when i heard they were gonna show the trailer this month i was like meh, i though i would be more excited honestly. but lemmings have mass effect and too human and halo 3 comin, and cows have lair and heavenly sword and MGS4, DMC4 etc.(not tryin to compare thats just off the top of my head) and i honestly dont know what the next GTA can bring to the table that will be new and exciting besides a better looking san andreas.
they should've concentrated on 1 console and released the other version a few months later so they would have time to make the game better, now they have to make sure both versions are equal and that takes time and money from improving the game to write code and optimize for the other console.
does anyone else feel the same ?
I do agree that they should have focused on the PS3 version first then moved to the 360 but I do trust Rockstar will deliver another awesome experience.
GTAIV is my most anticipated game of this year by far and I can't freakin wait for the trailer in 19 days.Why? The 360 is the better platform. If you were true to your word you'd be rooting for the 360 version, but obviously you're just jaded fanboy by from another era.
I do agree that they should have focused on the PS3 version first then moved to the 360 but I do trust Rockstar will deliver another awesome experience.
the-very-best
I hear there will be content for it through XBL and PSN so they won't really be the same. I was never really hyping GTA IV. BigB10123yeah but the core game will be the same, and the content wont come till sometime in 2008, months after the release in october, they might make us wait till a year from now for all we know.
[QUOTE="the-very-best"]GTAIV is my most anticipated game of this year by far and I can't freakin wait for the trailer in 19 days.Why? The 360 is the better platform. If you were true to your word you'd be rooting for the 360 version, but obviously you're just jaded fanboy by from another era. dude dont bring that fanboy crap here man, this was a harmless thread. and the ps3 one would be better if anything if ya wanna talk like that, cus the ps2 version of san andreas was better than the xbox and pc version.
I do agree that they should have focused on the PS3 version first then moved to the 360 but I do trust Rockstar will deliver another awesome experience.
CarlosPontinas
[QUOTE="the-very-best"]GTAIV is my most anticipated game of this year by far and I can't freakin wait for the trailer in 19 days.Why? The 360 is the better platform. If you were true to your word you'd be rooting for the 360 version, but obviously you're just jaded fanboy by from another era.
I do agree that they should have focused on the PS3 version first then moved to the 360 but I do trust Rockstar will deliver another awesome experience.
CarlosPontinas
Devs have already commented about the PS3 version being superior.
It doesn't bother me that the game is going to the 360. It just bothers me that it's full potential won't be reached.
[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]GTAIV is my most anticipated game of this year by far and I can't freakin wait for the trailer in 19 days.Why? The 360 is the better platform. If you were true to your word you'd be rooting for the 360 version, but obviously you're just jaded fanboy by from another era.
I do agree that they should have focused on the PS3 version first then moved to the 360 but I do trust Rockstar will deliver another awesome experience.
the-very-best
Devs have already commented about the PS3 version being superior.
It doesn't bother me that the game is going to the 360. It just bothers me that it's full potential won't be reached.
When? You got a link?
Why? The 360 is the better platform. If you were true to your word you'd be rooting for the 360 version, but obviously you're just jaded fanboy by from another era.[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]GTAIV is my most anticipated game of this year by far and I can't freakin wait for the trailer in 19 days.
I do agree that they should have focused on the PS3 version first then moved to the 360 but I do trust Rockstar will deliver another awesome experience.
xLegend24
Devs have already commented about the PS3 version being superior.
It doesn't bother me that the game is going to the 360. It just bothers me that it's full potential won't be reached.
When? You got a link?
there was an interview i saw where sam houser(exec producer) was sayin with the cell processor and blu-ray disc, etc it opens up more possibilities for GTA4, but i didnt really wanna mention that in my 1st post. theres even an interview here on gamespot about it, something about them being able to allow more objects on the streets like trash floating arounf and more things goin on at once with more physics. but that was before the whole comin to 360 day one thing, so who knows if they scrapped all that, i guess we will see on october.I didn't really enjoy GTA III or GTA Vice City, because I simply dislike mafia based story.
San Andreas on the other hand was gangster based story which was incredibly fun to me.
So the information of setting is very important for me to make my decision if I would want this game or not.
[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]GTAIV is my most anticipated game of this year by far and I can't freakin wait for the trailer in 19 days.Why? The 360 is the better platform. If you were true to your word you'd be rooting for the 360 version, but obviously you're just jaded fanboy by from another era.
I do agree that they should have focused on the PS3 version first then moved to the 360 but I do trust Rockstar will deliver another awesome experience.
the-very-best
Devs have already commented about the PS3 version being superior.
It doesn't bother me that the game is going to the 360. It just bothers me that it's full potential won't be reached.
Full potential? You realize the xbox's only saving grace is that it has 99% of the time the best version of multiplat games. This gen has been no different..
[QUOTE="xLegend24"]Why? The 360 is the better platform. If you were true to your word you'd be rooting for the 360 version, but obviously you're just jaded fanboy by from another era.[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]GTAIV is my most anticipated game of this year by far and I can't freakin wait for the trailer in 19 days.
I do agree that they should have focused on the PS3 version first then moved to the 360 but I do trust Rockstar will deliver another awesome experience.
-Me_Ur_Daddy-
Devs have already commented about the PS3 version being superior.
It doesn't bother me that the game is going to the 360. It just bothers me that it's full potential won't be reached.
When? You got a link?
there was an interview i saw where sam houser(exec producer) was sayin with the cell processor and blu-ray disc, etc it opens up more possibilities for GTA4, but i didnt really wanna mention that in my 1st post. theres even an interview here on gamespot about it, something about them being able to allow more objects on the streets like trash floating arounf and more things goin on at once with more physics. but that was before the whole comin to 360 day one thing, so who knows if they scrapped all that, i guess we will see on october.Oh? I must've missed it.
Since when GTA was about mindless slaughter? I think you are mistaken with many other first person shooters.
Man, ok, I'll say it: I think GTA is garbage. In every sense of the word.
I'm not a huge censorship proponent, but I just think this game offers absolutely nothing redeeming, especially in terms of our youngsters. You play the role of a brain dead thug hopping from bar to bar, town to town, and city to city bashing heads, running people over with cars, picking up prostitutes, and defacing property.Â
Sorry, but GTA is the Wal-Mart of video games--it's the lowest common denominator of everything games represent.
[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]GTAIV is my most anticipated game of this year by far and I can't freakin wait for the trailer in 19 days.Why? The 360 is the better platform. If you were true to your word you'd be rooting for the 360 version, but obviously you're just jaded fanboy by from another era.
I do agree that they should have focused on the PS3 version first then moved to the 360 but I do trust Rockstar will deliver another awesome experience.
the-very-best
Devs have already commented about the PS3 version being superior.
It doesn't bother me that the game is going to the 360. It just bothers me that it's full potential won't be reached.
When are you going to wake the **** up and realize that PS has always been inferior to Xbox hardware?
every time i get a new gta game, it always makes me see what the console can do. every time, especially san andreas, i explore the world and find myself noticing how much detail and work was put into making the world complete. i mean, its impressive even if you dont like the content, to say its garbage is ridiculous. theres a reason it changed gaming, and its not only because its violent.Man, ok, I'll say it: I think GTA is garbage. In every sense of the word.
I'm not a huge censorship proponent, but I just think this game offers absolutely nothing redeeming, especially in terms of our youngsters. You play the role of a brain dead thug hopping from bar to bar, town to town, and city to city bashing heads, running people over with cars, picking up prostitutes, and defacing property.Â
Sorry, but GTA is the Wal-Mart of video games--it's the lowest common denominator of everything games represent.
CubeJL
Not to mention huge variety of gameplay.
If we consider movies like Godfather masterpiece, then GTA is also a masterpiece.
[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]GTAIV is my most anticipated game of this year by far and I can't freakin wait for the trailer in 19 days.Why? The 360 is the better platform. If you were true to your word you'd be rooting for the 360 version, but obviously you're just jaded fanboy by from another era.
I do agree that they should have focused on the PS3 version first then moved to the 360 but I do trust Rockstar will deliver another awesome experience.
the-very-best
Devs have already commented about the PS3 version being superior.
It doesn't bother me that the game is going to the 360. It just bothers me that it's full potential won't be reached.
I actually seen a video of a Dev saying that they had to Dummy down the version because of the PS3 not able to achieve stable frame rates. The game is actually worse because of the PS3, worse graphics to account for the poor performance of the PS3.
[QUOTE="CubeJL"]every time i get a new gta game, it always makes me see what the console can do. every time, especially san andreas, i explore the world and find myself noticing how much detail and work was put into making the world complete. i mean, its impressive even if you dont like the content, to say its garbage is ridiculous. theres a reason it changed gaming, and its not only because its violent.Man, ok, I'll say it: I think GTA is garbage. In every sense of the word.
I'm not a huge censorship proponent, but I just think this game offers absolutely nothing redeeming, especially in terms of our youngsters. You play the role of a brain dead thug hopping from bar to bar, town to town, and city to city bashing heads, running people over with cars, picking up prostitutes, and defacing property.Â
Sorry, but GTA is the Wal-Mart of video games--it's the lowest common denominator of everything games represent.
whoisryanmack
Crap sells, my friend. So does violence, nudity, and sex. There's a place for these things...just not in mainstream video games, in my VERY humble opinion.
I've played GTA III and Vice City, and didn't notice any redeeming quality about the experience: Graphics? Hell no...terrible. Sound? Maybe the radio station idea was cool back in the day, but now I can jack in my Ipod for customization...not terribly innovative. Gameplay? I've already highlighted how shallow the gameplay is.Â
I'd rather play a G-rated game of Super Mario Sunshine, solving puzzles, challenging my reflexes and so forth than firing up a game of GTA, getting with my virtual homies, and waging war on the cyber-streets. Just not my thing, I guess.
[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="CubeJL"]every time i get a new gta game, it always makes me see what the console can do. every time, especially san andreas, i explore the world and find myself noticing how much detail and work was put into making the world complete. i mean, its impressive even if you dont like the content, to say its garbage is ridiculous. theres a reason it changed gaming, and its not only because its violent.Man, ok, I'll say it: I think GTA is garbage. In every sense of the word.
I'm not a huge censorship proponent, but I just think this game offers absolutely nothing redeeming, especially in terms of our youngsters. You play the role of a brain dead thug hopping from bar to bar, town to town, and city to city bashing heads, running people over with cars, picking up prostitutes, and defacing property.Â
Sorry, but GTA is the Wal-Mart of video games--it's the lowest common denominator of everything games represent.
CubeJL
Crap sells, my friend. So does violence, nudity, and sex. There's a place for these things...just not in mainstream video games, in my VERY humble opinion.
i didnt say the reason it sold well is because its well done, i said that's the reason it changed gaming. i dont underestimate the idiots out there. but i wouldnt forget that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, seen any sandbox games in the last few years?Why? The 360 is the better platform. If you were true to your word you'd be rooting for the 360 version, but obviously you're just jaded fanboy by from another era.[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]GTAIV is my most anticipated game of this year by far and I can't freakin wait for the trailer in 19 days.
I do agree that they should have focused on the PS3 version first then moved to the 360 but I do trust Rockstar will deliver another awesome experience.
AgentVX
Devs have already commented about the PS3 version being superior.
It doesn't bother me that the game is going to the 360. It just bothers me that it's full potential won't be reached.
I actually seen a video of a Dev saying that they had to Dummy down the version because of the PS3 not able to achieve stable frame rates. The game is actually worse because of the PS3, worse graphics to account for the poor performance of the PS3.
i hope you are being sarcastic. because what he said is kinda true i said earlier, the ps3 is the main SKU just like mercenaries 2, but i doubt there will be much of a difference cus MS did throw a lot of money their way. unless they hide content on the blu ray disc and make you pay to unlock it instead of downloading it, that would be smart. cus supposedly the ps3 version extra content is suppose to be extra islands and not just extra missions cus of the extra HDD space. some guy in europe leaked that info but i guess we will see if its true a year from now.[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]Why? The 360 is the better platform. If you were true to your word you'd be rooting for the 360 version, but obviously you're just jaded fanboy by from another era.[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]GTAIV is my most anticipated game of this year by far and I can't freakin wait for the trailer in 19 days.
I do agree that they should have focused on the PS3 version first then moved to the 360 but I do trust Rockstar will deliver another awesome experience.
yoshi_64
Devs have already commented about the PS3 version being superior.
It doesn't bother me that the game is going to the 360. It just bothers me that it's full potential won't be reached.
When are you going to wake the **** up and realize that PS has always been inferior to Xbox hardware?When will you stop being such a stupid shmuck and give respect for other people and their opinions? You dwell in opinions, while I deal with facts.
[QUOTE="CubeJL"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="CubeJL"]every time i get a new gta game, it always makes me see what the console can do. every time, especially san andreas, i explore the world and find myself noticing how much detail and work was put into making the world complete. i mean, its impressive even if you dont like the content, to say its garbage is ridiculous. theres a reason it changed gaming, and its not only because its violent.Man, ok, I'll say it: I think GTA is garbage. In every sense of the word.
I'm not a huge censorship proponent, but I just think this game offers absolutely nothing redeeming, especially in terms of our youngsters. You play the role of a brain dead thug hopping from bar to bar, town to town, and city to city bashing heads, running people over with cars, picking up prostitutes, and defacing property.Â
Sorry, but GTA is the Wal-Mart of video games--it's the lowest common denominator of everything games represent.
whoisryanmack
Crap sells, my friend. So does violence, nudity, and sex. There's a place for these things...just not in mainstream video games, in my VERY humble opinion.
i didnt say the reason it sold well is because its well done, i said that's the reason it changed gaming. i dont underestimate the idiots out there. but i wouldnt forget that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, seen any sandbox games in the last few years?You're right there. GTA has certainly sold millions--and by virtue of this, there have been some copycats (Crackdown is but one example of many).
mindless slaughter?
Since when GTA was about mindless slaughter? I think you are mistaken with many other first person shooters.
TriangleHard
Shooters you have to think to kill. GTA you just kill. I play the game mission by mission but when I watch others they just run over a crap load of people, kill pedestrians, then run from the cops until they die. Playing GTA like thatis stupid. Basically I play it my way while others play it theres. The main stream way of playing I find really boring.
The PS3 has limited video RAM. This is a FACT. By default this makes it an unlinkely target platform.
If anything the 360 version will be dumbed down to placate delusional cows.
[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="CubeJL"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="CubeJL"]every time i get a new gta game, it always makes me see what the console can do. every time, especially san andreas, i explore the world and find myself noticing how much detail and work was put into making the world complete. i mean, its impressive even if you dont like the content, to say its garbage is ridiculous. theres a reason it changed gaming, and its not only because its violent.Man, ok, I'll say it: I think GTA is garbage. In every sense of the word.
I'm not a huge censorship proponent, but I just think this game offers absolutely nothing redeeming, especially in terms of our youngsters. You play the role of a brain dead thug hopping from bar to bar, town to town, and city to city bashing heads, running people over with cars, picking up prostitutes, and defacing property.Â
Sorry, but GTA is the Wal-Mart of video games--it's the lowest common denominator of everything games represent.
CubeJL
Crap sells, my friend. So does violence, nudity, and sex. There's a place for these things...just not in mainstream video games, in my VERY humble opinion.
i didnt say the reason it sold well is because its well done, i said that's the reason it changed gaming. i dont underestimate the idiots out there. but i wouldnt forget that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, seen any sandbox games in the last few years?You're right there. GTA has certainly sold millions--and by virtue of this, there have been some copycats (Crackdown is but one example of many).
well, i attribute it to two things. first, obviously, your point that destruction and death sells. but i also think that part of it is the recognition that a gta style game can be really amazing when done right. it just set a model that others are impressed by. its another matter tho if you think that it has done more harm than good in total, that very well may be the truth.Which has huge variety of gameplay (sneak mission, assasination, taking pictures, driving, racing, delivery, theft, air plane fight, drive by, and much more)
going around and killing is simply an option. Also in many first person shooter, I rarely have to think before I shoot (unreal, quake, etc etc etc) Point and shoot doesn't require much of thinking.
Perhaps if you tried to play the game instead of just checking it out, you might've thought differently.
Did you know the main gameplay of GTA is doing the missions?good points. it is this diversity that i am talking about in my posts, its just impressive. few other games have so much variety and detail.
Which has huge variety of gameplay (sneak mission, assasination, taking pictures, driving, racing, delivery, theft, air plane fight, drive by, and much more)
going around and killing is simply an option. Also in many first person shooter, I rarely have to think before I shoot (unreal, quake, etc etc etc) Point and shoot doesn't require much of thinking.
Perhaps if you tried to play the game instead of just checking it out, you might've thought differently.
TriangleHard
Man, I feel like jumpin in the car right now runnin some peeps over then chasing people with chainsaws maybe with a bit of prostitution in betweenMan, ok, I'll say it: I think GTA is garbage. In every sense of the word.
I'm not a huge censorship proponent, but I just think this game offers absolutely nothing redeeming, especially in terms of our youngsters. You play the role of a brain dead thug hopping from bar to bar, town to town, and city to city bashing heads, running people over with cars, picking up prostitutes, and defacing property.
Sorry, but GTA is the Wal-Mart of video games--it's the lowest common denominator of everything games represent.
CubeJL
Did you know the main gameplay of GTA is doing the missions?
Which has huge variety of gameplay (sneak mission, assasination, taking pictures, driving, racing, delivery, theft, air plane fight, drive by, and much more)
going around and killing is simply an option. Also in many first person shooter, I rarely have to think before I shoot (unreal, quake, etc etc etc) Point and shoot doesn't require much of thinking.
Perhaps if you tried to play the game instead of just checking it out, you might've thought differently.
TriangleHard
You are replying to me correct? I know GTA has a wide variety of gameplay. The core of it being killing is just my turn off sometimes. I don't know I'm wierd like that. I also have this fear that the new GTA4 will look to close to real life. If this is the case I probably won't get it because the thought of just killing people over and over that look to real is just something that doesn't sit to right. I kinda think games will get to a point where the people you are killing look so real its going to be disturbing.
If you think Point and shoot are all that is required for FPS shooters you are mistaken. What about the strategy involved in multiplayer man.
I repeat I HAVE PLAYED GTA not just tried them. I'm sure eveyone has played a good amount of GTA this day and age. It just hasn't particulary been my type of game no matter how good the game is. I'm just not a fan of the genre like some people aren't of other genres. I still respect the fact that its a good game.
[QUOTE="CubeJL"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="CubeJL"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="CubeJL"]every time i get a new gta game, it always makes me see what the console can do. every time, especially san andreas, i explore the world and find myself noticing how much detail and work was put into making the world complete. i mean, its impressive even if you dont like the content, to say its garbage is ridiculous. theres a reason it changed gaming, and its not only because its violent.Man, ok, I'll say it: I think GTA is garbage. In every sense of the word.
I'm not a huge censorship proponent, but I just think this game offers absolutely nothing redeeming, especially in terms of our youngsters. You play the role of a brain dead thug hopping from bar to bar, town to town, and city to city bashing heads, running people over with cars, picking up prostitutes, and defacing property.Â
Sorry, but GTA is the Wal-Mart of video games--it's the lowest common denominator of everything games represent.
whoisryanmack
Crap sells, my friend. So does violence, nudity, and sex. There's a place for these things...just not in mainstream video games, in my VERY humble opinion.
i didnt say the reason it sold well is because its well done, i said that's the reason it changed gaming. i dont underestimate the idiots out there. but i wouldnt forget that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, seen any sandbox games in the last few years?You're right there. GTA has certainly sold millions--and by virtue of this, there have been some copycats (Crackdown is but one example of many).
well, i attribute it to two things. first, obviously, your point that destruction and death sells. but i also think that part of it is the recognition that a gta style game can be really amazing when done right. it just set a model that others are impressed by. its another matter tho if you think that it has done more harm than good in total, that very well may be the truth.I guess it all comes down to personal preference. Hey, I have NO compunctions about jumping into some frag-fest FPS like Halo, but when it becomes more "real world" and I'm required to go mobster on folks, it just kinda leaves me feeling empty..like I've done something wrong.Â
I just don't think it's the right message to send our impressionable youth. For that reason, I think game studios (and movie studios for that matter) aught to really exercise some maturity and restraint before doing something for the expressed purpose of making money.
[QUOTE="TriangleHard"]Did you know the main gameplay of GTA is doing the missions?
Which has huge variety of gameplay (sneak mission, assasination, taking pictures, driving, racing, delivery, theft, air plane fight, drive by, and much more)
going around and killing is simply an option. Also in many first person shooter, I rarely have to think before I shoot (unreal, quake, etc etc etc) Point and shoot doesn't require much of thinking.
Perhaps if you tried to play the game instead of just checking it out, you might've thought differently.
Blackbond
You are replying to me correct? I know GTA has a wide variety of gameplay. The core of it being killing is just my turn off sometimes. I don't know I'm wierd like that. I also have this fear that the new GTA4 will look to close to real life. If this is the case I probably won't get it because the thought of just killing people over and over that look to real is just something that doesn't sit to right. I kinda think games will get to a point where the people you are killing look so real its going to be disturbing.
If you think Point and shoot are all that is required for FPS shooters you are mistaken. What about the strategy involved in multiplayer man.
I repeat I HAVE P
Some first person shooter require strategy like Ghost Recon which is tactical shooter, but many first person shooter is just mindless killing. When I play death match in Quake, what matters is my hand and eye cordination, not any strategy or tactics. The one who can point and shoot better gets more kills. Also, I seriously can't think of many first person shooter that doesn't kill. Most first person shooter is bloody. GTA has many missions you don't have to kill so in a way you kill less in that game.
hey buddy, its already known that GTA games arent great because of their graphics, its because of all the cars people gameplay goin on, and that takes CPU, and the ps3 has a better CPU, and sam houser already said the CELL and BLU-RAY will allow them to do much more. theres a reason GeOW doesnt have much goin on on screen or around the player, and less than great physics and 8 players online, and RFOM has better physics more objects and great AI and 40 players online. xbox can do great textures, but ps3 does great AI physics etc. stop being such a fanboy sam houser and the team have already said the ps3 is the main SKU basically and its been known, this game has been in development for a while on ps3 and they barely started work on 360 version last year. playstation has always been the target platform for R*.The PS3 has limited video RAM. This is a FACT. By default this makes it an unlinkely target platform.
If anything the 360 version will be dumbed down to placate delusional cows.
CarlosPontinas
[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]hey buddy, its already known that GTA games arent great because of their graphics, its because of all the cars people gameplay goin on, and that takes CPU, and the ps3 has a better CPU, and sam houser already said the CELL and BLU-RAY will allow them to do much more. theres a reason GeOW doesnt have much goin on on screen or around the player, and less than great physics and 8 players online, and RFOM has better physics more objects and great AI and 40 players online. xbox can do great textures, but ps3 does great AI physics etc. A Z80 machine can do great AI and physics. Video games consoles are about GRAPHICS.The PS3 has limited video RAM. This is a FACT. By default this makes it an unlinkely target platform.
If anything the 360 version will be dumbed down to placate delusional cows.
-Me_Ur_Daddy-
[QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="CubeJL"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="CubeJL"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="CubeJL"]every time i get a new gta game, it always makes me see what the console can do. every time, especially san andreas, i explore the world and find myself noticing how much detail and work was put into making the world complete. i mean, its impressive even if you dont like the content, to say its garbage is ridiculous. theres a reason it changed gaming, and its not only because its violent.Man, ok, I'll say it: I think GTA is garbage. In every sense of the word.
I'm not a huge censorship proponent, but I just think this game offers absolutely nothing redeeming, especially in terms of our youngsters. You play the role of a brain dead thug hopping from bar to bar, town to town, and city to city bashing heads, running people over with cars, picking up prostitutes, and defacing property.Â
Sorry, but GTA is the Wal-Mart of video games--it's the lowest common denominator of everything games represent.
CubeJL
Crap sells, my friend. So does violence, nudity, and sex. There's a place for these things...just not in mainstream video games, in my VERY humble opinion.
i didnt say the reason it sold well is because its well done, i said that's the reason it changed gaming. i dont underestimate the idiots out there. but i wouldnt forget that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, seen any sandbox games in the last few years?You're right there. GTA has certainly sold millions--and by virtue of this, there have been some copycats (Crackdown is but one example of many).
well, i attribute it to two things. first, obviously, your point that destruction and death sells. but i also think that part of it is the recognition that a gta style game can be really amazing when done right. it just set a model that others are impressed by. its another matter tho if you think that it has done more harm than good in total, that very well may be the truth.I guess it all comes down to personal preference. Hey, I have NO compunctions about jumping into some frag-fest FPS like Halo, but when it becomes more "real world" and I'm required to go mobster on folks, it just kinda leaves me feeling empty..like I've done something wrong.Â
I just don't think it's the right message to send our impressionable youth. For that reason, I think game studios (and movie studios for that matter) aught to really exercise some maturity and restraint before doing something for the expressed purpose of making money.
probably right, and honestly, i dont really praise the violent portions of the game. i am completely impressed however, with how much detail there is in the environment and how interesting it is to explore. its just very complete and very well thought out, and i think theres something to be admired there.[QUOTE="CubeJL"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="CubeJL"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="CubeJL"][QUOTE="whoisryanmack"][QUOTE="CubeJL"]every time i get a new gta game, it always makes me see what the console can do. every time, especially san andreas, i explore the world and find myself noticing how much detail and work was put into making the world complete. i mean, its impressive even if you dont like the content, to say its garbage is ridiculous. theres a reason it changed gaming, and its not only because its violent.Man, ok, I'll say it: I think GTA is garbage. In every sense of the word.
I'm not a huge censorship proponent, but I just think this game offers absolutely nothing redeeming, especially in terms of our youngsters. You play the role of a brain dead thug hopping from bar to bar, town to town, and city to city bashing heads, running people over with cars, picking up prostitutes, and defacing property.Â
Sorry, but GTA is the Wal-Mart of video games--it's the lowest common denominator of everything games represent.
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Crap sells, my friend. So does violence, nudity, and sex. There's a place for these things...just not in mainstream video games, in my VERY humble opinion.
i didnt say the reason it sold well is because its well done, i said that's the reason it changed gaming. i dont underestimate the idiots out there. but i wouldnt forget that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, seen any sandbox games in the last few years?You're right there. GTA has certainly sold millions--and by virtue of this, there have been some copycats (Crackdown is but one example of many).
well, i attribute it to two things. first, obviously, your point that destruction and death sells. but i also think that part of it is the recognition that a gta style game can be really amazing when done right. it just set a model that others are impressed by. its another matter tho if you think that it has done more harm than good in total, that very well may be the truth.I guess it all comes down to personal preference. Hey, I have NO compunctions about jumping into some frag-fest FPS like Halo, but when it becomes more "real world" and I'm required to go mobster on folks, it just kinda leaves me feeling empty..like I've done something wrong.Â
I just don't think it's the right message to send our impressionable youth. For that reason, I think game studios (and movie studios for that matter) aught to really exercise some maturity and restraint before doing something for the expressed purpose of making money.
probably right, and honestly, i dont really praise the violent portions of the game. i am completely impressed however, with how much detail there is in the environment and how interesting it is to explore. its just very complete and very well thought out, and i think theres something to be admired there.Respectable answer. I can't fault you for that, then.
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