Now that 360 is as reliable as PS3

What's stopping you from getting one?

Less than 1% of the test units consisting solely of Jasper models broke after one year. Click text below for more information.

Fortunately, SquareTrade found that Xbox 360 quality has improved dramatically since the third quarter of 2008, shortly before the 65nm CPU/GPU "Jasper" model was introduced. Since then, first-year failure rates have plummeted to below the 4 percent the company projected.Looking at 500 units purchased in 2009, SquareTrade found that less than 1 percent had suffered the Red Ring of Death.

Numbers?
I personally prever things that life longer than one year.

Even for a fakeboy this is a pretty bad topic considering all the quality exclusives are coming to PS3 these days.
Hell even the developers of your "exclusives" cant seem to wait for theyr timed MS bribes to wear off so they can port a complete edition to the PS3

How does this make it more reliable than a PS3?

Now that the Wii has better graphics than the PS3...

Already have one.

How does this make it more reliable than a PS3?

shoryuken_

Same thing I was thinking.

:lol: It's called an "RROD". Ever heard of it? That's why. :lol:

Only 500 units, which wouldn't even be a year old. They should do a survey of the same people in another year and we will see how reliable it is.

Only 500 units, which wouldn't even be a year old. They should do a survey of the same people in another year and we will see how reliable it is.

Nintendo_Man

No, no, and no. 500 console sample size? Didn't the lemmings dismiss the 54% failure rate due to it not including all of the owners? Well now, I guess this doesn't count since it's not all of the Jasper chips! You can't have it both ways. ;)

I've always believe the 360's failure rate is exaggerated and false (its almost always based on survey), but there's no way its more reliable than the PS3. It'd be silly to claim that. Is the failure rate as bad as most people want you to think? No, thats a given. But its not nearly as reliable as the PS3.Skittles_McGee

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Only 500 units, which wouldn't even be a year old. They should do a survey of the same people in another year and we will see how reliable it is.

themyth01

Can you please explain why you put "more reliable" instead of "as reliable" in your title?

No, no, and no. 500 console sample size? Didn't the lemmings dismiss the 54% failure rate due to it not including all of the owners? Well now, I guess this doesn't count since it's not all of the Jasper chips! You can't have it both ways. ;)

furomaster_99

haha this is a joke right? ive heard of peoples mw2 edition 360 getting rrod all over youtube

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Only 500 units, which wouldn't even be a year old. They should do a survey of the same people in another year and we will see how reliable it is.

Eggimannd

Can you please explain why you put "more reliable" instead of "as reliable" in your title?

i have the old kind and it has broken 4 times(twice in last 3 weekes:()

but it seems they are going to send me a jasper this time:D

:lol: It's called an "RROD". Ever heard of it? That's why. :lol:

88Amp

and now E74 problem..... ever heard of that?

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[QUOTE="themyth01"] Well one year is still a good measure compared to the old 360s that didn't even last months. And having less than 1% break is a major achievement. MS's numbers show 4% overall though. Problem is many more people have old 90nm architecture 360s than the new Jasper models. themyth01

Can you please explain why you put "more reliable" instead of "as reliable" in your title?

Link to the 6%?

Numbers?
I personally prever things that life longer than one year.

Even for a fakeboy this is a pretty bad topic considering all the quality exclusives are coming to PS3 these days.
Hell even the developers of your "exclusives" cant seem to wait for theyr timed MS bribes to wear off so they can port a complete edition to the PS3

hot114

Might wanna fix your grammer before calling someone out.

[QUOTE="themyth01"][QUOTE="Eggimannd"]

Can you please explain why you put "more reliable" instead of "as reliable" in your title?

Eggimannd

Link to the 6%?

Yeeeaaah...they're not as reliable.

What's stopping you from getting one?

Less than 1% of the test units consisting solely of Jasper models broke after one year. Click text below for more information.

Fortunately, SquareTrade found that Xbox 360 quality has improved dramatically since the third quarter of 2008, shortly before the 65nm CPU/GPU "Jasper" model was introduced. Since then, first-year failure rates have plummeted to below the 4 percent the company projected.Looking at 500 units purchased in 2009, SquareTrade found that less than 1 percent had suffered the Red Ring of Death.themyth01

Good exclusives and good online.

lol , i wonder howl ong they used these 360s to test them , what an hour ,

im sorry it doesnt take an hour for rrod it takes months if not years of use

6 months at the eariest ,, this does not include scratching disc problems or e74 etc problems so i still think its near 30 -60 percent failure rate 9 xboxs dont tell you anything , for all we know , the employees could have been playin these 360s we buy and just tape everything back up

espacally gamestop /game craxy etc ,, who knows how much they cAN DO IN THE BACK TO AN XBOX360

but even if the rate is down , its still no where near as reliable as wii or ps3 , , ,

lol , i wonder howl ong they used these 360s to test them , what an hour ,

im sorry it doesnt take an hour for rrod it takes months if not years of use

6 months at the eariest ,, this does not include scratching disc problems or e74 etc problems so i still think its near 30 -60 percent failure rate 9 xboxs dont tell you anything , for all we know , the employees could have been playin these 360s we buy and just tape everything back up

espacally gamestop /game craxy etc ,, who knows how much they cAN DO IN THE BACK TO AN XBOX360

but even if the rate is down , its still no where near as reliable as wii or ps3 , , ,

mariokart64fan

I know at Gamestop the new consoles are never taken out of their boxes. The used ones are used so who cares really?

I've always believe the 360's failure rate is exaggerated and falseSkittles_McGee

Numbers?
I personally prever things that life longer than one year.

Even for a fakeboy this is a pretty bad topic considering all the quality exclusives are coming to PS3 these days.
Hell even the developers of your "exclusives" cant seem to wait for theyr timed MS bribes to wear off so they can port a complete edition to the PS3

hot114

i have a Jasper 360 and it's working fine for just over a year :)

[QUOTE="93soccer"]

[QUOTE="hot114"]

Numbers?
I personally prever things that life longer than one year.

Even for a fakeboy this is a pretty bad topic considering all the quality exclusives are coming to PS3 these days.
Hell even the developers of your "exclusives" cant seem to wait for theyr timed MS bribes to wear off so they can port a complete edition to the PS3

Watch_My_6

Might wanna fix your grammer before calling someone out.

[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]

No, no, and no. 500 console sample size? Didn't the lemmings dismiss the 54% failure rate due to it not including all of the owners? Well now, I guess this doesn't count since it's not all of the Jasper chips! You can't have it both ways. ;)themyth01

Nope. It was dismissed because anyone with or without a 360 could have participated and thus the numbers were skewed at best. This is an actual study, not a survey, this is following up new Jasper models for one year and seeing their failure rate. So big difference there ;)

Yeah. People need to get over that nonsense about that unreliable poll. The newer 360's are just as reliable as the PS3's are now. Not to mention that with the 3 year warranty covering both the RROD & E74 while Sony has a 1-year warranty & charging you $150 for them to fix your PS3 should it manages to get damaged or gets bricked through the firmware updates or through obtaining the YLOD in which both of those things probably aren't covered in their warranty.

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[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]

No, no, and no. 500 console sample size? Didn't the lemmings dismiss the 54% failure rate due to it not including all of the owners? Well now, I guess this doesn't count since it's not all of the Jasper chips! You can't have it both ways. ;)garland51

Nope. It was dismissed because anyone with or without a 360 could have participated and thus the numbers were skewed at best. This is an actual study, not a survey, this is following up new Jasper models for one year and seeing their failure rate. So big difference there ;)

Yeah. People need to get over that nonsense about that unreliable poll. The newer 360's are just as reliable as the PS3's are now. Not to mention that with the 3 year warranty covering both the RROD & E74 while Sony has a 1-year warranty & charging you $150 for them to fix your PS3 should it manages to get damaged or gets bricked through the firmware updates or through obtaining the YLOD in which both of those things probably aren't covered in their warranty.

[QUOTE="hot114"]

Numbers?
I personally prever things that life longer than one year.

Even for a fakeboy this is a pretty bad topic considering all the quality exclusives are coming to PS3 these days.
Hell even the developers of your "exclusives" cant seem to wait for theyr timed MS bribes to wear off so they can port a complete edition to the PS3

93soccer

Might wanna fix your grammer before calling someone out.

[QUOTE="garland51"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"]

Nope. It was dismissed because anyone with or without a 360 could have participated and thus the numbers were skewed at best. This is an actual study, not a survey, this is following up new Jasper models for one year and seeing their failure rate. So big difference there ;)

furomaster_99

Yeah. People need to get over that nonsense about that unreliable poll. The newer 360's are just as reliable as the PS3's are now. Not to mention that with the 3 year warranty covering both the RROD & E74 while Sony has a 1-year warranty & charging you $150 for them to fix your PS3 should it manages to get damaged or gets bricked through the firmware updates or through obtaining the YLOD in which both of those things probably aren't covered in their warranty.

Not exactly "moving on." This gen is far from over, & the PS3 still has a long way to go to catch up to the 360 in sales, especially in NA where the 360 had nearly 20 million 360's sold while it had nearly 11 million PS3's sold in that same region. It'll probably take years before it closes the gap between the PS3 & 360.

Well Ps3 has better exclusive rpgs, so I dn't care bout 360, and I can't be bothered trying to fix it every 2nd day

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and Mushihime-sama Futari are all on the 360....

For shame Funshong, for...shame...

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[QUOTE="garland51"]

Yeah. People need to get over that nonsense about that unreliable poll. The newer 360's are just as reliable as the PS3's are now. Not to mention that with the 3 year warranty covering both the RROD & E74 while Sony has a 1-year warranty & charging you $150 for them to fix your PS3 should it manages to get damaged or gets bricked through the firmware updates or through obtaining the YLOD in which both of those things probably aren't covered in their warranty.

garland51

Not exactly "moving on." This gen is far from over, & the PS3 still has a long way to go to catch up to the 360 in sales, especially in NA where the 360 had nearly 20 million 360's sold while it had nearly 11 million PS3's sold in that same region. It'll probably take years before it closes the gap between the PS3 & 360.

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[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]Hmm, maybe they did fix it. I guess now we know how many sales were RROD related...Look how it's selling now! :P Anyway, it may be too little too late; People are moving on to the PS3. :)

furomaster_99

Not exactly "moving on." This gen is far from over, & the PS3 still has a long way to go to catch up to the 360 in sales, especially in NA where the 360 had nearly 20 million 360's sold while it had nearly 11 million PS3's sold in that same region. It'll probably take years before it closes the gap between the PS3 & 360.

If you think about it, the price cut that the 360 had really wasn't a price cut at all, it was more like a replacement model that the Elite took the Pro model's place at $300. Just because the PS3 is at $300 doesn't mean that many people won't stop buying the 360's, & it's only been a few months since the PS3 overtook the 360 in sales. Just saying, PS3 owners shouldn't get too cocky, because things can all turn back around in a heartbeat, just like when MS dropped the price of the 360 & that the 360 overtook the PS3 in sales again back last year when the PS3 had MGS 4 along with the MGS 4 bundle that kept outselling the 360.

lol damage control for sure.

Since the Jasper Unit is still only about a year old how can you tell from Square Trade the percentage. Microsoft covers for 3 years RROD and E7 errors and also 1 year for every thing else. The units have that are sent to square trade are the ones that can't be covered by Microsoft which at this time is very minor amount. So again you can use a source like square trade when those Jasper Units are just barely getting past the year and ofcourse this has nothing to do with the 360's biggest issue RROD. I got a Jasper 360 with the WM $100 gc special but returned it when I realized I needed a HD so the unit wouldn't sound like a jet taking off(loud DVD drive). My two PS3's 80gb BC models don't even sound like that when playing them for over a couple hours. Sorry, until there is real proof I don't believe that the units are that much better made than they were before as far as reliabilty.

Because MS left the ones out that got RRoD and other probs for so long in addition the PS3 gives you more hardware for your buck and free online gami ng service.

So why would you need a 360 now when all the great games, hardware, and free online service is with PS3?

Everyone talks of how badly Sony blew it. It's actually MS who blew it from RRoD and other hardware failures to charging for everything to everything being an extra cost add on to now almost no good exclusive games in it's future.

Sony has done right by it's gamers and they will reap the rewards. MS has failed it's gamers so bad I'm surprised at how many 360 still sell.

[QUOTE="93soccer"]

[QUOTE="hot114"]

Numbers?
I personally prever things that life longer than one year.

Even for a fakeboy this is a pretty bad topic considering all the quality exclusives are coming to PS3 these days.
Hell even the developers of your "exclusives" cant seem to wait for theyr timed MS bribes to wear off so they can port a complete edition to the PS3

Watch_My_6

Might wanna fix your grammer before calling someone out.

Because MS left the ones out that got RRoD and other probs for so long in addition the PS3 gives you more hardware for your buck and free online gaming service.

So why would you need a 360 now when all the great games, hardware, and free online service is with PS3?

Everyone talks of how badly Sony blew it. It's actually MS who blew it from RRoD and other hardware failures to charging for everything to everything being an extra cost add on to now almost no good exclusive games in it's future.

Sony has done right by it's gamers and they will reap the rewards. MS has failed it's gamers so bad I'm surprised at how many 360 still sell.

patriots7672

Don't get me wrong, I like the PS3, & I have both a PS3 & a 360. The thing is, is that many people don't exactly care for online, Blu-Ray, etc. as you may think that they are. If that were true, then we would've had all 34+ million Gold subscribers already. Plus nothing comes free, not even online. Plus a wired connection is far better for online gaming than wireless, as you'll have a much better connection & a better signal, thus, Wi-Fi isn't exactly needed.

Plus even though PS3 has many exclusives much more than the 360, the 1st & 2nd party exclusives that the 360 has sell far more better than 1st & 2nd party games that the PS3 has, & not to mention that PS3 versions of multiplats sell far less compared to the multiplats on the 360, especially when the 360 still has the higher userbase & that the majority of them run, look, & play better on the 360 than PS3, which is why I suspect that many people only bought the PS3 because of the free Blu-Ray player that's included inside the PS3.

Also, the PS3 isn't immune to problems, either, such as bricking your consoles through the firmware update, & receiving the YLOD. Not to mention that MS has a 3 year warranty covering both the RROD & E74, while Sony has a 1 year warranty & that you'll have to pay them $150 for them to fix your system in case it breakes outside your warranty, & that bricking the consoles including the YLOD doesn't exactly cover the warranty.

I've always believe the 360's failure rate is exaggerated and false (its almost always based on survey), but there's no way its more reliable than the PS3. It'd be silly to claim that. Is the failure rate as bad as most people want you to think? No, thats a given. But its not nearly as reliable as the PS3.Skittles_McGee

360 at 4% failure rate? lol i dont think so...

I already had two 360 and that is enough i will not buy another one.

My gts 250 graphics card

What's stopping you from getting one?

themyth01