Now that Mistwalker the savior for the 360 in japan has been CRUSHED.

what can MS do to become known in Japan, besides that console that completely failed to the japanese.

DSL 222,132
PSP 184,610
Wii 170,558
PS3 63,720
PS2 18,025
Xbox360 8,561
GBASP 103
GC 32
GBM 28
DS 12
GBA 9



Hardware - This Week | Last Week | YTD | LTD
1. NDS - 222,144 | 168,267 | 6,668,915 | 20,674,594
2. PSP - 184,610 | 91,481 | 2,736,291 | 7,268,420
3. WII - 170,558 | 115,057 | 3,311,401 | 4,231,044
4. PS3 - 63,720 | 38,123 | 1,073,245 | 1,530,803
5. PS2 - 18,025 | 11,987 | 726,218 | 20,881,077
6. 360 - 8,561 | 8,876 | 226,427 | 491,129
7. GBA - 140 | 114 | 50,534 | 15,348,613
8. NGC - 32 | 46 | 10,495 | 4,179,963


01./02. [NDS] Mario Party DS (Nintendo) - 180,042 / 826,000
02./01. [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) - 124,238 / 535,000
03./00. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (Sony) - 115,748 / NEW
04./05. [NDS] Prof. Layton and Pandora's Box (Level 5) - 74,378 / 444,000
05./09. [WII] Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo) - 74,113 / 550,000
06./06. [NDS] Dragon Quest IV (Square-Enix) - 73,061 / 868,000
07./10. [WII] Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games (Nintendo) - 64,228 / 212,000
08./14. [WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 55,102 / 2,341,000
09./15. [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo) - 54,696 / 1,921,000
10./00. [WII] Chocobo's Mysterious Dungeon: the Labyrinth of Forgotten Time (Square-Enix) - 40,580 / NEW

11./12. [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 (Konami)
12./20. [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo)
13./08. [NDS] Powerful Pro-kun Pocket 10 (Konami)
14./00. [NDS] Kirarin Revolution: Make and Show at the Kime-Kira Stage (Konami)
15./22. [NDS] Pokémon Mysterious Dungeon: Time Expedition Party (Pokémon)
16./23. [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo)
17./39. [NDS] Taiko Drum Master DS (Bandai-Namco)
18./28. [NDS] Pokémon Mysterious Dungeon: Shadow Expedition Party (Pokémon)
19./04. [PSP] Hot Shots Golf Portable 2 (Sony)
20./11. [PS2] SD Gundam G Generation Spirits (Bandai-Namco)
21./27. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
22./35. [WII] Wario Ware Smooth Moves (Nintendo)
23./03. [NDS] Tales of Innocence (Bandai-Namco)
24./00. [360] Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom (Microsoft)
25./21. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2008 (Konami)
26./16. [PS2] Sengoku Basara 2: Heroes (Capcom)
27./00. [WII] Nights: Journey of Dreams (Sega)
28./47. [NDS] Tamagotchi no Puchi-Puchi Omisecchi: Thanks Everybody! (Bandai-Namco)
29./18. [NDS] Nep League DS (Jaleco)
30./31. [NDS] Prof. Layton and the Curious Village (Level 5)
31./46. [NDS] Animal Crossing Wild World (Nintendo)
32./34. [NDS] My Housekeeping Diary (Nintendo)
33./45. [NDS] Dinosaur King: The Seven Fragments (Sega)
34./25. [NDS] MySims (EA)
35./00. [NDS] Big Pitch: I Think I Can Become an Ace (Marvelous Entertainment)
36./43. [NDS] Kanji Brain Test 2.5M (IE Institute)
37./42. [NDS] Flash Focus: Vision Training in Minutes a Day (Nintendo)
38./37. [PS3] Shin Sangoku Musou 5 (Koei)
39./50. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd (Capcom)
40./48. [NDS] Won!tertainment: Music Channel (Capcom)
41./32. [NDS] Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters World Championship 2008 (Konami)
42./40. [WII] Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles (Capcom)
43./26. [PS2] Yakuza 2 (Sega)
44./41. [NDS] Mega Man Star Force 2: Berserk × Dinosaur (Capcom)
45./17. [PSP] Yuusha no Kuse ni Namaiki da (Sony)
46./49. [NDS] More Brain Age (Nintendo)
47./44. [NDS] Mega Man Star Force 2: Berserk × Shinobi (Capcom)
48./00. [NDS] Cooking Mama 2 (Taito)
49./00. [NDS] Yes! Precure 5 (Bandai-Namco)
50./07. [360] Lost Odyssey (Microsoft)

30./31. [NDS] Prof. Layton and the Curious Village (Level 5)

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I don't care how it does in Japan. I just really want to play Lost Odyssey. I really don't have Japanese taste and I find that often things that are huge there I hate and vice versa. If anything this is a reason for me to buy the game.L1qu1dSword

Most people in the real world probably don't care either, but here its different. System Wars is like a whole new world.

[QUOTE="deavincalhoun"]There was a thread already on this so you need to get alife and and or take some time to find the older thread. andd another thing mistalker is making 2 more announced games for 360 at the moment while square is also making two jrpgs so gtfoSlashkice

Two?

The Last Remnant and...?

infinite undiscovery.

U.S. sales more than make up for lack of Japan sales anyway, so who cares?

[QUOTE="deavincalhoun"]

infinite undiscovery.

Slashkice

That's being developed by tri-Ace. Squenix is only publishing it.

:| Sqaure-Enix owns Tri-ace.

Level 5 games own, thats why MS needs not Mistwalker they aren't even exclusive devs. I could easily see them making multi-plat games for PS3 in the future. 360 is dead in japan, and its not cause its a bad console. Its simply because the competition is just better.Adrian_Cloud

sakaguchi doesnt like sony.

U.S. sales more than make up for lack of Japan sales anyway, so who cares?

robflores370

[QUOTE="robflores370"]

U.S. sales more than make up for lack of Japan sales anyway, so who cares?

robotech31

I'm talking about console sales, I could care less about blue dragon either...sorry

[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]Level 5 games own, thats why MS needs not Mistwalker they aren't even exclusive devs. I could easily see them making multi-plat games for PS3 in the future. 360 is dead in japan, and its not cause its a bad console. Its simply because the competition is just better.deavincalhoun

sakaguchi doesnt like sony.

Its business... Japanese gamers don't seem to favour 360. Japan favours JRPG games whereas NA, and Europe gamers do but not nearly as much. Japanese gamers prefer Playstation 3. Its that simple.

I never said they would, its just a proabability.

Wait Microsoft actually tried to set foot in Japan?

All they did was make ties with MistWalker that's it.

Compare that to America where they: Brought Bungie, Bioware, and RARE. Made ties with Epic, Silicon Knights, along with countless other Western based developers.

What exactly have they done in Japan outside of Mistwalker and licensing an agreement for Tri-Ace to create 2 games over 2 years ago that still aren't out yet?

Oh and don't even get me started on their advertising.

Seriously anybody who says that Microsoft made a serious attempt to break into the country clearly has no idea what they are talking about.

Wait Microsoft actually tried to set foot in Japan?

All they did was make ties with MistWalker that's it.

Compare that to America where they: Brought Bungie, Bioware, and RARE. Made ties with Epic, Silicon Knights, along with countless other Western based developers.

What exactly have they done in Japan outside of Mistwalker and licensing an agreement for Tri-Ace to create 2 games over 2 years ago that still aren't out yet?

Gunraidan

it should of said, where in the US they lost Bungie, watched bioware get bought out by EA, made a huge mistake with Rare. robotech31

Yes but that was only recently, but during their whole track record with the Xbox they've done many things to attract Western gamers to their console. Yet they've done next to nothing to get Japan.

[QUOTE="Gunraidan"]

Wait Microsoft actually tried to set foot in Japan?

All they did was make ties with MistWalker that's it.

Compare that to America where they: Brought Bungie, Bioware, and RARE. Made ties with Epic, Silicon Knights, along with countless other Western based developers.

What exactly have they done in Japan outside of Mistwalker and licensing an agreement for Tri-Ace to create 2 games over 2 years ago that still aren't out yet?

robotech31

Don't forget Bizzare creators of Project Gotham Racing been bought by Activision :P

[QUOTE="robotech31"][QUOTE="Gunraidan"]

Wait Microsoft actually tried to set foot in Japan?

All they did was make ties with MistWalker that's it.

Compare that to America where they: Brought Bungie, Bioware, and RARE. Made ties with Epic, Silicon Knights, along with countless other Western based developers.

What exactly have they done in Japan outside of Mistwalker and licensing an agreement for Tri-Ace to create 2 games over 2 years ago that still aren't out yet?

Swift_Boss_A

Don't forget Bizzare creators of Project Gotham Racing been bought by Activision :P

MS never wanted to nor said they had a desire to win Japan. All they said was that they wanted to do better than they did last time, which they have, and to get more Japanese developers on their system. They've had ALOT of success in the second field. The US will see way more Japanese games on the 360 than the og xbox ever got. Nobody can deny that. The whole, "I buy Sony for japanese stuff" is a mute argument this gen.

Even japanese developers have commented that they like the 360 because it gives them a good entry into the western market. They know its a flop in Japan, but they see the world as being way more than just Japan.

[QUOTE="Slashkice"][QUOTE="deavincalhoun"]

infinite undiscovery.

Adrian_Cloud

That's being developed by tri-Ace. Squenix is only publishing it.

:| Sqaure-Enix owns Tri-ace.

pwnt

But ?....How.?...what....? Nooooooooooooo

MS is doing bad in Japan ?

This is breaking news , please put this on the front-page and remember you heard it here first !

Thank you robotech31 for making us aware .

[QUOTE="robflores370"]

U.S. sales more than make up for lack of Japan sales anyway, so who cares?

robotech31

well if thats the case you better hope sony fans had better start buying games period because games sell like trash on the ps3 full stop..;)

Poor Mistwalker :( They can always make games for the Wii & PS3Swift_Boss_A

Considering how well big budget exclusives sell on that system, I'm really not sure how enticing of an offer that is.

Now that Wii on the other hand...

MS never wanted to nor said they had a desire to win Japan. All they said was that they wanted to do better than they did last time, which they have, and to get more Japanese developers on their system. They've had ALOT of success in the second field. The US will see way more Japanese games on the 360 than the og xbox ever got. Nobody can deny that. The whole, "I buy Sony for japanese stuff" is a mute argument this gen.

Even japanese developers have commented that they like the 360 because it gives them a good entry into the western market. They know its a flop in Japan, but they see the world as being way more than just Japan.

MrSickVisionz

Great post, as usual.

360 fans can just keep pretending it doesnt matter, and things will continue only counting in America and no where elsebigLLL

No, but the difference in America more than makes up for the difference in Japan.

Until the 360 falls behind in total sales, America will continue to matter most. Maybe not the end-all be-all market, but definitely the biggest and most important.

30./31. NDS Prof. Layton and the Curious Village Level 5

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Bansheesdie

What in gods name do you think your laughing at, you highly intelligent, obviously not mentally retarded, and sexually straight, poster?

U.S. sales more than make up for lack of Japan sales anyway, so who cares?

robflores370

Releasing a year early, getting owned by the Wii and the PS3 starting to sell steadily around the world.

MS went down the whole only the US matters route with the Xbox 1 and ignored Japan and didn't market enough in Europe and it cost them big time, $4 Billion to be exact. ;)

Wow man. Against all odds is PSP actually somehow holding up. However Wii and DS is on FIRE. It's insane...

Yep, 360 really should give up on Japan. Stop making it aviable at all there and just focus hard on the rest of the world. Get all the western developers and such and keep the money instead of having put down millions of dollars on useless JPN exclusives and on consoles that's just going to lay in some warehouse for all eternity.

[QUOTE="Bansheesdie"]

30./31. NDS Prof. Layton and the Curious Village Level 5

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Zenfoldor

What in gods name do you think your laughing at, you highly intelligent, obviously not mentally retarded, and sexually straight, poster?

The 360 recieving less support from the J-dev community is a good thing not a bad thing.

Poor Mistwalker :( They can always make games for the Wii & PS3Swift_Boss_A

wouldnt it be a smarter decision if they made games for the wii and ds since the ps3 is doing poorly.

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]I don't care how it does in Japan. I just really want to play Lost Odyssey. I really don't have Japanese taste and I find that often things that are huge there I hate and vice versa. If anything this is a reason for me to buy the game.jackvegas21

Most people in the real world probably don't care either, but here its different. System Wars is like a whole new world.

Prof. Layton and the Curious Village (Level 5)

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Bansheesdie

Do you even know what that is? :|

They should just stop, Japanese market dont know about good games if it slapped them on the face. Cooking mama? Mario party on the charts? Give me a break.TheJuiceyBar

Hypocrisy at its finest.

Cooking Mama sales:

USA: 700k
Japan: 50k

Mario Party 8 sales:

USA: 1.5 million
Japan: 900k.