Now that Unreal Tournament 3 is more casualised.How will it dethrone Halo 3 now?

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#1 ninjabeaver1
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Since hardcore FPS gamers & Halo haters hate it because it's a casual FPS. What's the excuse now? Epic is screwing over their hardcore fanbase by slowing the movement speed, removing double jump, dodge jump & adding more emphasis on vehicular combat. The Hermits and Cows (who claim they game on PC)'s precious UT is slowly becoming the thing they very hate.

The sad thing is that I should be raving about this as ammo against Halo haters but I love UT as well. Halo just caters towards when me & my friends (casual FPS gamers) just want to have a splitscreen multiplayer blast.

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1155834653?bclid=1155100508&bctid=1165620181


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#2 2FacedJanus
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*shrugs* Halo 3 can't be dethroned, it's not on a throne even... not even climbing steps towards the throne.
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#4 Danm_999
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This thread makes so many assinine assumptions its not even worth debunking.
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#5 realistgamer
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*shrugs* Halo 3 can't be dethroned, it's not on a throne even... not even climbing steps towards the throne.2FacedJanus

haha:lol: yea your joking right

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[QUOTE="2FacedJanus"]*shrugs* Halo 3 can't be dethroned, it's not on a throne even... not even climbing steps towards the throne.realistgamer

haha:lol: yea your joking right

Hermits and their Halo-hate :lol:

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#7 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="realistgamer"]

[QUOTE="2FacedJanus"]*shrugs* Halo 3 can't be dethroned, it's not on a throne even... not even climbing steps towards the throne.ToScA-

haha:lol: yea your joking right

Hermits and their Halo-hate :lol:

To be fair, Halo is not the undisputed king of the FPS genre.

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#8 ToScA-
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[QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="realistgamer"]

[QUOTE="2FacedJanus"]*shrugs* Halo 3 can't be dethroned, it's not on a throne even... not even climbing steps towards the throne.Danm_999

haha:lol: yea your joking right

Hermits and their Halo-hate :lol:

To be fair, Halo is not the undisputed king of the FPS genre.

Thanks for sharing your opinion. The thing is, I do not agree with it :|

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#9 Danm_999
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="realistgamer"]

[QUOTE="2FacedJanus"]*shrugs* Halo 3 can't be dethroned, it's not on a throne even... not even climbing steps towards the throne.ToScA-

haha:lol: yea your joking right

Hermits and their Halo-hate :lol:

To be fair, Halo is not the undisputed king of the FPS genre.

Thanks for sharing your opinion. The thing is, I do not agree with it :|

And if your opinion constituted all the criteria for the king of the FPS genre, the argument would be solved.

Unfortunately we've got to consider other factors.

Halo is a great series, I really enjoyed Halo 3, but to call it the king of the FPS genre goes too far really. There's just too much competition.

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#10 Codename33
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Mods can bring all of the "hardcore" content back to UT3, and then there will be the hundreds of user-made maps and gametypes and full-conversion mods. Oh, I guess Halo 3 is much better because of the replay function.
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#11 sadikovic
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How is UT3 casualised?... Its basicaly UT2K4 with better graphics and more weopons/vehicles/maps.

Unless you think casualising a game is porting it to console!... then your wrong this is just UT3 the sequal to UT2K4 but its now multpiplatform.

And I love playing Halo 3 online its great... but I "will" play UT3 more when its release because its essentialy halo's MP but better and bigger in every way.

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The pc version will just be modded to bring it back to its glory, stuff the console versions ;)
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[QUOTE="2FacedJanus"]*shrugs* Halo 3 can't be dethroned, it's not on a throne even... not even climbing steps towards the throne.realistgamer

haha:lol: yea your joking right

:lol: at anyone who thinks that its a fact that Halo is the best MP game out ther

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#15 Lonelynight
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Mutators.GoodkupoBan

Yup, theres also an option to play UT04 with the same gameplay as the clas.sic UT

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#16 Ballroompirate
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[QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="realistgamer"]

[QUOTE="2FacedJanus"]*shrugs* Halo 3 can't be dethroned, it's not on a throne even... not even climbing steps towards the throne.Danm_999

haha:lol: yea your joking right

Hermits and their Halo-hate :lol:

To be fair, Halo is not the undisputed king of the FPS genre.

To bad your opinion is pretty much weak when what the past 4 years the number one online FPS/MP has been a Halo game and now Halo 3 with its hundreds of thousands of online MP player base...mhmm looks like another good few years for Halo.

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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="realistgamer"]

[QUOTE="2FacedJanus"]*shrugs* Halo 3 can't be dethroned, it's not on a throne even... not even climbing steps towards the throne.Ballroompirate

haha:lol: yea your joking right

Hermits and their Halo-hate :lol:

To be fair, Halo is not the undisputed king of the FPS genre.

To bad your opinion is pretty much weak when what the past 4 years the number one online FPS/MP has been a Halo game and now Halo 3 with its hundreds of thousands of online MP player base...mhmm looks like another good few years for Halo.

Fin

You are dead wrong. CS and CS: Source's online numbers DESTROYS Halo 1/2/3 numbers.

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#18 welltarnation
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Meh, I like Halo about as much as I like Unreal. Not very much.
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#19 -Karmum-
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*shrugs* Halo 3 can't be dethroned, it's not on a throne even... not even climbing steps towards the throne.2FacedJanus

Your right, both Bioshock and Crysis are climbing to the throne, with Halo 3 trailing behind them. :P

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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="realistgamer"]

[QUOTE="2FacedJanus"]*shrugs* Halo 3 can't be dethroned, it's not on a throne even... not even climbing steps towards the throne.ToScA-

haha:lol: yea your joking right

Hermits and their Halo-hate :lol:

To be fair, Halo is not the undisputed king of the FPS genre.

Thanks for sharing your opinion. The thing is, I do not agree with it :|

On paper, Counter Strike is the king of the FPS genre....
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[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="realistgamer"]

[QUOTE="2FacedJanus"]*shrugs* Halo 3 can't be dethroned, it's not on a throne even... not even climbing steps towards the throne.MadExponent

haha:lol: yea your joking right

Hermits and their Halo-hate :lol:

To be fair, Halo is not the undisputed king of the FPS genre.

To bad your opinion is pretty much weak when what the past 4 years the number one online FPS/MP has been a Halo game and now Halo 3 with its hundreds of thousands of online MP player base...mhmm looks like another good few years for Halo.

Fin

You are dead wrong. CS and CS: Source's online numbers DESTROYS Halo 1/2/3 numbers.

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Have they really taken out wall jumping? That technique got me many wins in UT2004, double jumping I couldn't care less about.
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#23 Magical_Zebra
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="realistgamer"]

[QUOTE="2FacedJanus"]*shrugs* Halo 3 can't be dethroned, it's not on a throne even... not even climbing steps towards the throne.ToScA-

haha:lol: yea your joking right

Hermits and their Halo-hate :lol:

To be fair, Halo is not the undisputed king of the FPS genre.

Thanks for sharing your opinion. The thing is, I do not agree with it :|

Well....thats a way to put it. :)

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[QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="realistgamer"]

[QUOTE="2FacedJanus"]*shrugs* Halo 3 can't be dethroned, it's not on a throne even... not even climbing steps towards the throne.Danm_999

haha:lol: yea your joking right

Hermits and their Halo-hate :lol:

To be fair, Halo is not the undisputed king of the FPS genre.

Thanks for sharing your opinion. The thing is, I do not agree with it :|

And if your opinion constituted all the criteria for the king of the FPS genre, the argument would be solved.

Unfortunately we've got to consider other factors.

Halo is a great series, I really enjoyed Halo 3, but to call it the king of the FPS genre goes too far really. There's just too much competition.

agreed, a great series I just completed the campaign and was impressed with the out and out action that continues on the tradition of the series,

for me halo is the most intense FPS there is, but is it the undisputed king of FPS no, i think any one of three or four could be

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[QUOTE="Ballroompirate"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="realistgamer"]

[QUOTE="2FacedJanus"]*shrugs* Halo 3 can't be dethroned, it's not on a throne even... not even climbing steps towards the throne.MadExponent

haha:lol: yea your joking right

Hermits and their Halo-hate :lol:

To be fair, Halo is not the undisputed king of the FPS genre.

To bad your opinion is pretty much weak when what the past 4 years the number one online FPS/MP has been a Halo game and now Halo 3 with its hundreds of thousands of online MP player base...mhmm looks like another good few years for Halo.

Fin

You are dead wrong. CS and CS: Source's online numbers DESTROYS Halo 1/2/3 numbers.

I was about to tell him the same thing, but you beat me to it.
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#26 ninjabeaver1
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Have they really taken out wall jumping? That technique got me many wins in UT2004, double jumping I couldn't care less about.gingerdivid

Wall-jumping is still in as far as I'm concerned. Anyways I sorta forgot that the community will eventually balance UT3 they see fit for themselves anyway. Actually it's probably smart now that they will draw a new audience without compromising thier hardcore fanbase. Uhh this is embarrassing..

btw CS & Halo 3 currently have 118k people playing as of now. CS:S has 48K people playing. Pretty impressive for H3 considering everyone is an extra $50 a year for it.

Sources game-monitor.com & bungie.net

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#27 Gex-
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You have no idea what are you talking about. Dodge jump is gone, but double jump is still in, they'v ealso added rocket jump, and impact hammer jump, dodge and wall jumps are still there. The movement for PC version isn't slowed down, and they talk much vehicles so console guys will pay some attention to the game.

Dethrone halo? Halo was never on the throne, not even close. Uneal was there looong before halo wasn't even in project, UT was on the throne when halo came out and it's still the best skill-based multiplayer FPS ever created.

Sales=/=quality, just look at sims and 50cent. Advertising and lack of good fps games on consoles is the thing that made halo popular, not gameplay.

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#28 Ragashahs
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as a better game? i think it already has. in popularity and hype? hell no
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#29 goodlay
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:lol: Are you kidding me TC? Halo is a huge casual game, just like Madden.
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#30 DragonXx
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The pc version will just be modded to bring it back to its glory, stuff the console versions ;) Zenkuso

huh? The PS3 version will have mods also. AND Mouse/Keyboard, im way too AAcited about this game

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#31 JAMES_L_BROOKS
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[QUOTE="realistgamer"]

[QUOTE="2FacedJanus"]*shrugs* Halo 3 can't be dethroned, it's not on a throne even... not even climbing steps towards the throne.ToScA-

haha:lol: yea your joking right

Hermits and their Halo-hate :lol:

:lol: halo 3 vs Crysis HAHAHA AHHAHA HHAHAHA

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Since hardcore FPS gamers & Halo haters hate it because it's a casual FPS. What's the excuse now? Epic is screwing over their hardcore fanbase by slowing the movement speed, removing double jump, dodge jump & adding more emphasis on vehicular combat. The Hermits and Cows (who claim they game on PC)'s precious UT is slowly becoming the thing they very hate.

The sad thing is that I should be raving about this as ammo against Halo haters but I love UT as well. Halo just caters towards when me & my friends (casual FPS gamers) just want to have a splitscreen multiplayer blast.

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1155834653?bclid=1155100508&bctid=1165620181


ninjabeaver1

how is UT3 casual? And how did you convince yourself that Halo 3 is hardcore?

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#33 turgore
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It returns to it's roots. Nothing wrong with that. But getting rid of double jumping is stupid.
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[QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="realistgamer"]

[QUOTE="2FacedJanus"]*shrugs* Halo 3 can't be dethroned, it's not on a throne even... not even climbing steps towards the throne.gingerdivid

haha:lol: yea your joking right

Hermits and their Halo-hate :lol:

To be fair, Halo is not the undisputed king of the FPS genre.

Thanks for sharing your opinion. The thing is, I do not agree with it :|

On paper, Counter Strike is the king of the FPS genre....



Yep. Most played FPS of all time if im not mistaken
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#35 MegaPigeon
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[QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="realistgamer"]

[QUOTE="2FacedJanus"]*shrugs* Halo 3 can't be dethroned, it's not on a throne even... not even climbing steps towards the throne.Danm_999

haha:lol: yea your joking right

Hermits and their Halo-hate :lol:

To be fair, Halo is not the undisputed king of the FPS genre.

Even so, it's still one of the best :D

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#36 Blanco98
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dont call Halo 3 the king of FPS...Its definitely up there and close but i dont think its near being the King of FPS....maybe for Consoles but Overall Genre no.....So far none of the 3 halos took the crown of king FPS.....
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#37 DeltoidRecon
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Since hardcore FPS gamers & Halo haters hate it because it's a casual FPS. What's the excuse now? Epic is screwing over their hardcore fanbase by slowing the movement speed, removing double jump, dodge jump & adding more emphasis on vehicular combat. The Hermits and Cows (who claim they game on PC)'s precious UT is slowly becoming the thing they very hate.

The sad thing is that I should be raving about this as ammo against Halo haters but I love UT as well. Halo just caters towards when me & my friends (casual FPS gamers) just want to have a splitscreen multiplayer blast.

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1155834653?bclid=1155100508&bctid=1165620181


ninjabeaver1

1st. Please link me to the source that said TDM and DM matches weren't included in UT3

2nd. Please show me where the devs said that host couldn't adjust various settings as in other UT games to increase settings such as speed.

3rd. Please show me where they said Instagib mode is no longer included

4th. That guy who in the inteview is an ass and obviously A) Never played UT2k4's Onslaught mode or Assault, B) Is a DM/TDM only player, C) Lied and never played UT3 or D) Didn't care to even understand the game (which was EXTREMELY obvious imo I think he was stoned while playing).

5th. Halo 3 has a gimped version of a typical PC map maker and the words Halo 3 don't deserve to be in the same sentence with Unreal Tournament 3.

Also people said "adding more emphasis on vehicular combat" when Onslaught was featured in UTk4 and look how that turned out. So lets wait until the game actually comes out before we make asshat assumptions about a series that has never let its fans down.

IMPORTANT EDIT**

Also UT3 devs (Rein) have been quoted saying that the PC version isn't based on what the PS3 can do, but instead the PS3 version is built on what PC's can do. You think after all the delays Epic has made to make sure this game is damn near perfect will be for nothing? Halo 3 is just an above-average fps and I find it funny that after Halo 1 came out Xbox owners think the birth of FPS genre was created/innovated with Halo lmao.

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#38 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="realistgamer"]

[QUOTE="2FacedJanus"]*shrugs* Halo 3 can't be dethroned, it's not on a throne even... not even climbing steps towards the throne.Danm_999

haha:lol: yea your joking right

Hermits and their Halo-hate :lol:

To be fair, Halo is not the undisputed king of the FPS genre.

it absolutely is in a current sense - until the next FPS outscores it's 9.5 it will be sitting in that throne with a gravity hammer in each hand.

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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="realistgamer"]

[QUOTE="2FacedJanus"]*shrugs* Halo 3 can't be dethroned, it's not on a throne even... not even climbing steps towards the throne.3picuri3

haha:lol: yea your joking right

Hermits and their Halo-hate :lol:

To be fair, Halo is not the undisputed king of the FPS genre.

it absolutely is in a current sense - until the next FPS outscores it's 9.5 it will be sitting in that throne with a gravity hammer in each hand.

Thanks for your opinion. Sadly, nobody cares about it. Stop stating your opinions as facts please.

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#40 bignice12
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it absolutely is in a current sense - until the next FPS outscores it's 9.5 it will be sitting in that throne with a gravity hammer in each hand.

3picuri3

haha.

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#41 TheDarkDisciple
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I've never been a big fan of UT, but wow, i can't believe they would get rid of all that stuff. I hate it when games get that casual makeover. And TF2, while i haven't played it yet (just have a good feeling with some of the things i've been hearing) is another example. Don't get me wrong though, its probably a good game.

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#42 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

it absolutely is in a current sense - until the next FPS outscores it's 9.5 it will be sitting in that throne with a gravity hammer in each hand.

trix5817

Thanks for your opinion. Sadly, nobody cares about it. Stop stating your opinions as facts please.

there's nothing but pure hard facts here son. we're on Gamespot, the scores here are all that matters. you can yammer on all day about opinions, but the fact is the only one asserting one here is you (and the others like you of course).

:D

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#43 Dante2710
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im not picking up UT3, i always looked at it as a pc game....and since im not a pc gamer, i`ll stick to good old halo 3
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#44 LoG-Sacrament
Member since 2006 • 20397 Posts
fighting fire with fire i guess? either way, theres so many shooters this holiday season that im not sure ill even get UT3.
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#45 DSgamer64
Member since 2007 • 4449 Posts
How exactly is the game casualized? In UT2004 double jump got annoying cause people would mod the games to have very little gravity, thus making it possible for people to double jump 40 feet into the air without getting killed. Plus the game is not finished, I would wager that there is at least another 2 months of developing time before UT3 gets released on the PC and it will not be nearly as slow as the console versions, why would Epic do that to their fans?
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#46 elite_ferns1
Member since 2006 • 1232 Posts
[QUOTE="realistgamer"]

[QUOTE="2FacedJanus"]*shrugs* Halo 3 can't be dethroned, it's not on a throne even... not even climbing steps towards the throne.Lonelynight

haha:lol: yea your joking right

:lol: at anyone who thinks that its a fact that Halo is the best MP game out ther

it is not the best, that is reserved for counter-strike. But it is the closest conoles will ever get

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#47 trizzle_a
Member since 2007 • 1186 Posts

ModsLonelynight

In UT2004 changing the number of extra jumps, gamespeed, weapon/player stats, item spawn time, etc was very easy.

I don't know about the PS3 version but the PC version of UT3 will have any problems it has fixed.

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#48 _en1gma_
Member since 2004 • 14617 Posts

It would have never dethroned Halo 3.

Not even close.

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#49 _en1gma_
Member since 2004 • 14617 Posts
[QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="realistgamer"]

[QUOTE="2FacedJanus"]*shrugs* Halo 3 can't be dethroned, it's not on a throne even... not even climbing steps towards the throne.JAMES_L_BROOKS

haha:lol: yea your joking right

Hermits and their Halo-hate :lol:

:lol: halo 3 vs Crysis HAHAHA AHHAHA HHAHAHA

Yes. Considering the graphics... :roll:

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#50 realmadrid4lyfe
Member since 2005 • 848 Posts

I like UT better but Halo its still good.