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MEAN MACHINE: 'Halo 3' release could be bigger and badder than Potter, Spidey

You can make a case that 12:01 a.m. Tuesday marks another pivotal moment in American entertainment.

Millions of fans of the "Halo" video game series will pick up their copy of "Halo 3," the third installment of the sci-fi trilogy about man's battle against -- and alliances with -- alien species.

About 10,000 stores are to be open beyond normal hours in Michigan and around the country to sell it.

Many of the buyers -- people you know, not just stereotypical game-obsessed geeks -- will turn around and do nothing but play it for hours.

Some of them will play for days, both alone and with similarly devoted friends.

(Truant officers and human resource staffers: If absenteeism increases Tuesday, here's your reason.)

So, how big is this?

First, a thought on that pivotal moment:

"I'm no game guy," said Wayne State University professor and pop culture expert Jerry Herron. "But what we're seeing with 'Halo 3' is something fundamental about this country -- loving setting new standards and needing frontiers to exceed.

"We are desperately uninterested in the past, and we demolish anything that reminds us of what we used to be," Herron said. "Electronic gaming does what people used to do with Conestoga wagons -- gather up everything and start a new existence. It's very much frontier-like living in this new virtual world."

Second, the numbers:

At the end of what is to be a very long day, there's a very good chance that "Halo 3" will make history where it matters for a lot of folks -- beating sales revenue records for any type of media.

Ever.

"Halo 2" whomped movies, DVDs, books and music by selling $125 million on its first day a couple of years ago, and the hype and buzz and product affiliations that surround "Halo 3" virtually guarantee that it'll be a repeat performance.

The retail math is staggering. More than a million copies of the game already have been presold.

Up to 2.5 million eventually may sell on opening day, with different packages priced from $60 to $150.

But even if everyone buys the cheapest package, that's still $160 million in revenue in a single day.

That would top the $150 million take of "Spider-Man 3" over its first three days -- which in turn broke the record for the most movie money ever made in that period.

And it's proof that a popular game debut is right up there with opening day whoopee for blockbuster films like "Spider-Man" and "Pirates of the Caribbean," as well as the Harry Potter books.

The buyers and players are brothers, fathers, mothers and sisters -- the ordinary folks you live and work next to every day.

That's what makes this game so powerful -- its broad appeal.

For Frank O'Connor, content manager at Bungie, the Microsoft subsidiary that developed the game, it all comes down to the 7-Eleven plastic cup on his desk.

"I find that the most ultimate expression of consumer merchandising is having your own Slurpee," he said, gazing at the cup as he talked from the company's headquarters in Redmond, Wash.

But that's just one example.

The "Halo" name is being slapped on hundreds of products ranging from custom vehicles -- including a re-creation of the game's Jeep-like all-terrain vehicle, the Warthog -- to NASCAR.

This Sunday, a "Halo 3"-themed car -- No. 40, driven by David Stremme -- is to compete in the Dover 400 race in Delaware. The game and retailer Target are sponsoring the car.

There's even a British condom bearing the trademark. But, O'Connor says, "for me," the Slurpee is "the most exciting one."

If his tone is a bit bemused, he can be forgiven.

His team of 120 full-timers and innumerable part-timers has been laboring for three years to produce this sequel, and fan appetite for anything related to the game has been rabid.

" 'Halo' is one of my all-time favorite series for video games. I got 'Halo' on the first day it was released, same for 2 and of course 3!" said John Kamichitis, 16, of Macomb Township.

And he's only one of hundreds of people we heard from when we asked readers to submit their questions for the developers.

"We've been very good at insulating ourselves from that pressure," O'Connor said. "For some people it's amusing, for some people it's a little frightening, but for many it's exciting."

One nice side effect of being Microsoft's leading franchise -- and the one that has single-handedly sold more Xbox game consoles than any other -- is that "Halo" got the royal treatment this time around.

With a huge crew working on it, they managed to include everything they wanted to, including frills that O'Connor was sure would get scrapped when real-life deadlines loomed.

The ability to make, edit and share in-game movies? Check.

The ability to play through the single-player story but with three other friends online? Check.

A flexible map editor for multiplayer games that lets players set their own rules and tweak the geography where they shoot up their friends? Check.

Those features are virtually unheard of in console games, and frankly the combination even is fairly rare in PC games, where increased processing power typically means more goodies for players.

"Everything that we wanted in the game is in there," O'Connor said.

In return, Bungie is hoping for the same thing as its parent company: that the new "Halo" will sell a small mountain of the Xbox 360 consoles needed to run the game rated M for mature audiences because of violence.

There's even a special-edition "Halo 3" console that is to hit the market at the same time as the game.

There also are to be "Halo" controllers, "Halo" headsets, a "Halo" edition of Microsoft's Zune music player, "Halo" faceplates and bags for existing 360s, and so on.

"Most people who played 'Halo 2' on Xbox don't own a 360," O'Connor said.

So he and the team have their fingers crossed, especially as people consider gifts for the holidays.

"Hopefully ours is one of the ones they consider," he said.

Already, sales of the 360 console, the only one to feature the game, jumped by almost 50% in August.

"Halo 3" is advertised as the end of the "Halo" story -- but fans don't need to worry that it's the end of games set in the "Halo" universe.

First up are downloads for players to get online via Xbox Live, which could include additional maps for multiplayer matches and other extensions of the game.

Then there's that project, as yet unnamed, that the team is working on with "Lord of the Rings" director Peter Jackson.

After that, O'Connor said, they haven't announced their next project.

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Maybe I'm being unrealistic, or this is a joke. Harry potter 1 sold 107 million copies, halo and halo 2 sold 14 million in total.

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Good gracious. Summarize, PLEASE! Anyway, I thought MS was banking on 200M the first day. I don't think any movie has ever generated that much in one single day.farrell2k
It states how halo series is bigger then harry potter.
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[QUOTE="farrell2k"]Good gracious. Summarize, PLEASE! Anyway, I thought MS was banking on 200M the first day. I don't think any movie has ever generated that much in one single day.numba1234
It states how halo series is bigger then harry potter.

So there are more Halo geeks than Harry Potter geeks, who cares?

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"I find that the most ultimate expression of consumer merchandising is having your own Slurpee,"

nice.

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[QUOTE="farrell2k"]Good gracious. Summarize, PLEASE! Anyway, I thought MS was banking on 200M the first day. I don't think any movie has ever generated that much in one single day.numba1234
It states how halo series is bigger then harry potter.

Ughh...no, Harry Potter is WAYYYY bigger than Halo..it is just that a $20 book cant beat a $60-$150 game.

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[QUOTE="numba1234"][QUOTE="farrell2k"]Good gracious. Summarize, PLEASE! Anyway, I thought MS was banking on 200M the first day. I don't think any movie has ever generated that much in one single day.Lonelynight

It states how halo series is bigger then harry potter.

So there are more Halo geeks than Harry Potter geeks, who cares?

Yes, and I can't wait to see some viral video of some jerk driving by and screaming out the spoilers.
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#8 Tesley
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That analogy at the end "Maybe I'm being unrealistic, or this is a joke. Harry potter 1 sold 107 million copies, halo and halo 2 sold 14 million in total." was great.

10/10

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#9 Medic_B
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nothing is overhype when it comes to halo
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I understand the hype for this game....but I don't understand the SUPERhype for this game.

It's not the second coming. Anyway, I'll play the game for myself.

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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]

[QUOTE="numba1234"][QUOTE="farrell2k"]Good gracious. Summarize, PLEASE! Anyway, I thought MS was banking on 200M the first day. I don't think any movie has ever generated that much in one single day.Cesar_Barba

It states how halo series is bigger then harry potter.

So there are more Halo geeks than Harry Potter geeks, who cares?

Yes, and I can't wait to see some viral video of some jerk driving by and screaming out the spoilers.

That's why I'm gonna get it a day later and in the afternoon when all kids are in school.

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[QUOTE="Cesar_Barba"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"]

[QUOTE="numba1234"][QUOTE="farrell2k"]Good gracious. Summarize, PLEASE! Anyway, I thought MS was banking on 200M the first day. I don't think any movie has ever generated that much in one single day.OXIIIIXO

It states how halo series is bigger then harry potter.

So there are more Halo geeks than Harry Potter geeks, who cares?

Yes, and I can't wait to see some viral video of some jerk driving by and screaming out the spoilers.

That's why I'm gonna get it a day later and in the afternoon when all kids are in school.


good luck finding a copy
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[QUOTE="OXIIIIXO"][QUOTE="Cesar_Barba"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"]

[QUOTE="numba1234"][QUOTE="farrell2k"]Good gracious. Summarize, PLEASE! Anyway, I thought MS was banking on 200M the first day. I don't think any movie has ever generated that much in one single day.springz300

It states how halo series is bigger then harry potter.

So there are more Halo geeks than Harry Potter geeks, who cares?

Yes, and I can't wait to see some viral video of some jerk driving by and screaming out the spoilers.

That's why I'm gonna get it a day later and in the afternoon when all kids are in school.


good luck finding a copy

Game discs are easy to manufacture, and small enough to ship in huge quantities. I don't think that there'll be too much of a problem.

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Funny thing is, I've got a 360 and aren't really that hyped for Halo 3. I'm more hyped for King of Fighters XI coming out for PS2 in a few weeks. I like Halo and all but I don't love it like I do Far Cry, UT or Quake II.
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Yes, and I can't wait to see some viral video of some jerk driving by and screaming out the spoilers.Cesar_Barba

I would like to see that :lol:

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"this is overhype?"

THIS IS SYSTEM WARS! *kicks yo ass into a well*

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"this is overhype?"

THIS IS SYSTEM WARS! *kicks yo ass into a well*

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[QUOTE="coakroach"]

"this is overhype?"

THIS IS SYSTEM WARS! *kicks yo ass into a well*

whocares4peace

SPARTA!!

YOU'RE WINNER

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Ughh...no, Harry Potter is WAYYYY bigger than Halo..it is just that a $20 book cant beat a $60-$150 game.

Kahuna_1

Yeah..the Harry Potter series is pretty much only beat by the Bible as far as book sales are concerned. Thats overhyping of an epic proportion on their part. We'll see about Spiderman but considering you are talking something like $6 tickets compared to a $60 (at minimum) game its really kind of poor there too.

I understand the hype for this game....but I don't understand the SUPERhype for this game.

It's not the second coming. Anyway, I'll play the game for myself.

Redfingers

Oh good grief, some people actually DO treat it like the second coming. See: threehalogod (or whatever the heck his name was)

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#20 Khansoul
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nothing is overhype when it comes to haloMedic_B

Agreed!

Everyone else is just upset they have nothing as big to look forward to. There is not one single game coming for any other system or PC that will match this excitement here in North America.

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I'm probably gonna be pissed if Peter's project is not a game.
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[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]

Ughh...no, Harry Potter is WAYYYY bigger than Halo..it is just that a $20 book cant beat a $60-$150 game.

Runningflame570

Yeah..the Harry Potter series is pretty much only beat by the Bible as far as book sales are concerned. Thats overhyping of an epic proportion on their part. We'll see about Spiderman but considering you are talking something like $6 tickets compared to a $60 (at minimum) game its really kind of poor there too.

I understand the hype for this game....but I don't understand the SUPERhype for this game.

It's not the second coming. Anyway, I'll play the game for myself.

Redfingers

Oh good grief, some people actually DO treat it like the second coming. See: threehalogod (or whatever the heck his name was)

you gotta think, movies has 10x the user base (Consumers) that gaming does...so it equals out...

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wow they're hyping it way too much
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Halo 3 is very good from what ive played, the only thing that didnt wow me were the human character models.
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#25 naval
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wow they're hyping it way too muchmistervengeance

ypu have to thank ms add campaign for that. just recently i saw halo 3 posters, which lots of bs like 'on spetember 25, 25 million people will be buying halo , will you be one of them etc etc'

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#26 EntwineX
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lol @Master Chief condom :P ..that honestly wouldn't be my first choise.
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#27 Runningflame570
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lol @Master Chief condom :P ..that honestly wouldn't be my first choise.EntwineX

They had been considering selling Halo panties..

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#28 Viviath
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The real proof of overhype is how IGN wrote an article telling us that the review would be coming out on sunday...i mean wtf? the review comes when it comes, no need to write a brand new article telling me its coming.... And its not like it matters, even if they rate it 6.4 it would still sell like hotcakes so the review is more for vindication than anything else.
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Halo 3. Great game or not, massive amount of people will buy it. If it is great, great. If not, it proves that trash can sell.
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:lol: Just look at all the jealousy in this thread. Cows, Sheep and Hermits wish they had a game this big. Halo 3 is the definition of a system-seller.
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I have this game preordered and cannot wait to play it either, but a Halo 3 condom?....:lol:...."Come on, baby, let me show you why they call me the Master Chief.":P

Sorry, I know Halo 3 will be a great video game, but indeed, some of this hype and merchandising is just way over the top. Halo Mountain Dew, Slurpees, ect I can see, and that's fine. But Halo condoms? You have got to be kidding me, lol.

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:lol: Just look at all the jealousy in this thread. Cows, Sheep and Hermits wish they had a game this big. Halo 3 is the definition of a system-seller.-Tretiak

I don't want my game characters on underwears

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Video Games beating Movies, Books, etc... FTW!!! lol

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#34 Runningflame570
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:lol: Just look at all the jealousy in this thread. Cows, Sheep and Hermits wish they had a game this big. Halo 3 is the definition of a system-seller.-Tretiak

Frankly I don't really care about Halo 3 aside from the fanboys consistently hyping it. How "big" a game is doesn't matter to me, what matters to me is how "good" a game is and if it fits into the areas of interest I have. Halo doesn't.

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I am sorry, I just cannot get over Halo condoms actually being real, lol. Just imagine some guy getting it on while wearing a Master Chief Helmet and a Halo condom.:lol:
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OVerhype ALERT!!! Microsoft isnt going to get their money back due to them over marketing the game. it could do without the special events and the advertisement. look at gamespot FULLED TO THE BRIM OF HALO 3 adds. their ad campaghn itself is over 150 million dollars on one GAME!!! They aren't going to make a profit they could have sold the same amount easily without ads and the 5.5 hours special on G4
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#37 nintendofreak_2
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Good gracious. Summarize, PLEASE! Anyway, I thought MS was banking on 200M the first day. I don't think any movie has ever generated that much in one single day.farrell2k
Video games cost much more than movies or books.
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I got to touch it last night at work, can't wait to pick it up on tuesday
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I got to touch it last night at work, can't wait to pick it up on tuesdayhellsingfan666

you got to touch...a game disc?!?! *bows down*
.../sarcasm

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#40 AscendancyTR
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Halo 3 will sell over 20 mill.
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#41 AscendancyTR
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[QUOTE="farrell2k"]Good gracious. Summarize, PLEASE! Anyway, I thought MS was banking on 200M the first day. I don't think any movie has ever generated that much in one single day.nintendofreak_2
Video games cost much more than movies or books.

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#42 Ragashahs
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Good gracious. Summarize, PLEASE! Anyway, I thought MS was banking on 200M the first day. I don't think any movie has ever generated that much in one single day.farrell2k
thats kinda becuase movie tickets don't cost $60. seriosly don't see why people want to see halo break the movie record. now matter what more people will see a moive than halo 3. i have no doubt that halo 3 will sell a couple million in the first day and even more in the week but when comparing to movies like Spiderman 3, which i think is the highest earning movie, more people watch it the first day than people who will buy halo 3. now for halo 3 to sell 200m it only about 3 1/3 million people need to buy it. for a movie? let say a ticket cost 12 dollar(our tickets are expensive here to reach 200m close to 16 + million watch it. now this isn't halo's fault but haveing sold 200m dollars worth of copies dosn't means it sell better than anything. thats why i think halo should be compared to other high selling video games like GT. not movies
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#43 Runningflame570
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Halo 3 will sell over 20 mill.AscendancyTR

Consider me skeptical.

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#44 Nike_Air
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Halo 3 will sell over 20 mill.AscendancyTR
I think every single 360 owner and future owner in NA would have to buy this game for it to sell that many. I think it is totally possible. Believe.

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#45 bobaban
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That analogy at the end "Maybe I'm being unrealistic, or this is a joke. Harry potter 1 sold 107 million copies, halo and halo 2 sold 14 million in total." was great.

10/10

Tesley

I can't believe they actually said they'd be bigger than Potter. Idiots, they need to come back to reality. MS really lies through the teeth.

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#46 xXHackettXx
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nothing is overhype when it comes to haloMedic_B
lol I know what you meen.
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#47 lespaul1919
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in my relatively small town one wal-mart is for sure getting roughly 500 copies. we have 3 wal-marts. :|

that is one small town.....in indiana.......wow.

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#48 lespaul1919
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[QUOTE="Tesley"]

That analogy at the end "Maybe I'm being unrealistic, or this is a joke. Harry potter 1 sold 107 million copies, halo and halo 2 sold 14 million in total." was great.

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I can't believe they actually said they'd be bigger than Potter. Idiots, they need to come back to reality. MS really lies through the teeth.

it did make more money. thats what counts in the end. no # sold.

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#49 Runningflame570
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it did make more money. thats what counts in the end. no # sold.

lespaul1919

Do you have any evidence of this? Harry Potter has been immensely popular in both book sales and movie revenue. Heck, the Harry Potter TCG didn't exactly do terribly either despite being the worst-playing TCG I've ever seen (I got some cards at a huge discount).

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#50 mwa
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tuesday is gonna be huge. i wouldn't be surprised to see them rack up sales of close to $200 million. the real question is how many 360s this will sell. i think we could see 2 million+ from august to dec. 31 of this year, a large portion of those attributable to halo 3.