now this is THE REASON WHY MGS4 TEXTURES DONT POP LIKE UNREAL ENGINE

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#1 G10mgs4
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there is simply too many players on the screen at ounce, and there is alot of story and cutscnece and sound in this game that takes up a lot of space. this is agame hwere there is alot going on and there is a whole lot on the screen, as you can see there are about 12 people in this one screen. unlike 8 players at once like the praized 360 game out there.

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#2 Smakkjoo
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12-14 people on screen and still lookin' delicious
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#3 cooldude855
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The ram
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#4 G10mgs4
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12-14 people on screen and still lookin' deliciousSmakkjoo

YOU HEAR ME WITH ALL THAT ACTION GOING ON IN ONE PLACE. i have never seen a game that look like mgs4 on the 360 with everything going on like this.....

waits for some dumb idiot to post screens of a medicore game like kameo, and say look at teh textuuuuuuureeeesss

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#5 Mordred19
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I don't think the number of units on screen at once is relevent in an in-engine cutscene. it is real time, but in-engine doesn't use AI, so the resources are focused on the graphics. during gamplay itself, the only negative to the graphics is the textures, but the character models are indeed some of the best I've ever seen in a game.
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#6 MikeE21286
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the game looks awesome....and looks even better in motion. I'm not worried about it one bit. If there's one game you have to worry about, this is not the one.
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#8 G10mgs4
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I don't think the number of units on screen at once is relevent in an in-engine cutscene. it is real time, but in-engine doesn't use AI, so the resources are focused on the graphics. during gamplay itself, the only negative to the graphics is the textures, but the character models are indeed some of the best I've ever seen in a game.Mordred19

oh no there is action like this in the demo, watch some movies from gamevideos, and gametrailers

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God this game looks amazing. Can't wait to get my hands on it.
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#10 akuma303x
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wow. just wow.
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#11 user_nat
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Somehow.. I think Halo 3 is going to have alot more then 12 people on the screen at times also.. (meaning its not something worth bragging about.)

And seriously, why on earth did the have to make the game so greenish..

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God this game looks amazing. Can't wait to get my hands on it.Viviath

Have fun playing teh green suxxor:lol:

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#13 akuma303x
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watch the new HALO3 campaign vid in HD at IGn. THOSE ARE TEXTURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OMG!
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#14 G10mgs4
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this is very very incoherent, also, play dead rising and talk to me about player numbers, i dont see why you are targeting the unreal engine.

ps: dont use the words "pop like" it should stay in the ghetto.

kruesader

for that ghetto comment you ugly as that thang., by pop i meant poke out, rise from the surface, not gun play fool.

secoundly, like with dead rR, it look no where near the way game look on the unreal engine, and you no it.

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#15 Mordred19
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Somehow.. I think Halo 3 is going to have alot more then 12 people on the screen at times also..

And seriously, why on earth did the have to make the game so greenish..

user_nat

it's a color filter, used in movies for artistic purposes.

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#16 fuzzysquash
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good.

I'm glad MGS4 doesn't look like an Unreal game.

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#17 Mordred19
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good.

I'm glad MGS4 doesn't look like an Unreal game.

fuzzysquash

agreed. I don't want Snake looking like alaminated mannquin.

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#18 akuma303x
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good.

I'm glad MGS4 doesn't look like an Unreal game.

fuzzysquash
it looks better.
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#19 Mordred19
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good.

I'm glad MGS4 doesn't look like an Unreal game.

fuzzysquash

agreed. I don't want Snake looking like a laminated mannequin.

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#20 amorbis1001
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lol it is all about the ps3 bottle necked ram space.
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#21 G10mgs4
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watch the new HALO3 campaign vid in HD at IGn. THOSE ARE TEXTURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OMG!akuma303x

HAHAHAAHAHAHHAAHAH

LAUGH OF THE DAY, HE SAID HALO HAD GOOD GRAPHOCS AND TEXTURES.JHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA

WE ALL NO THATS NOT TRUE, AND DONT EVEN BOTHER POSTING SCREENS. AHAHAHAH

THIS IS MGS4 VS THE UNREAL ENGINE. and again halo dose nto have as mush story going on or as mush going on at screen, taht has to use cpu ai

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#22 G10mgs4
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[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

good.

I'm glad MGS4 doesn't look like an Unreal game.

Mordred19

agreed. I don't want Snake looking like alaminated mannequin.

tight with some ugly big boots and big arms and legs, that run around looking like red necks with full 30000 ton cloths on.

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#23 Mordred19
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lol it is all about the ps3 bottle necked ram space.amorbis1001

not really. more like the GPU which isn't quite as powerful as the 360's. textures have been an issue for a while, but it has options for dealing with any RAM issue.

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#24 Viviath
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[QUOTE="Viviath"]God this game looks amazing. Can't wait to get my hands on it.cooldude855

Have fun playing teh green suxxor:lol:

oh wow...because gears was filled with a rich palette of colors.... :roll:

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#25 amorbis1001
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[QUOTE="akuma303x"]watch the new HALO3 campaign vid in HD at IGn. THOSE ARE TEXTURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OMG!G10mgs4

HAHAHAAHAHAHHAAHAH

LAUGH OF THE DAY, HE SAID HALO HAD GOOD GRAPHOCS AND TEXTURES.JHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA

WE ALL NO THATS NOT TRUE, AND DONT EVEN BOTHER POSTING SCREENS. AHAHAHAH

THIS IS MGS4 VS THE UNREAL ENGINE. and again halo dose nto have as mush story going on or as mush going on at screen, taht has to use cpu ai

lolz dont bother post scren cuz you know ur wrong, and as for unreal engine, unreal tournament has alot going onscreen and still looks better than MGS4

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#26 amorbis1001
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[QUOTE="amorbis1001"]lol it is all about the ps3 bottle necked ram space.Mordred19

not really. more like the GPU which isn't quite as powerful as the 360's. textures have been an issue for a while, but it has options for dealing with any RAM issue.

the rastirizer in the ps3 gpu is just a beefed up 7900 and it has xdr ram so the speed of the ram isn't and issue I think is is the space and how the rasterizer deals with the textures. but yeah it is not all to do witht he ram due to the super speed xdr.

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#27 G10mgs4
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[QUOTE="G10mgs4"]

[QUOTE="akuma303x"]watch the new HALO3 campaign vid in HD at IGn. THOSE ARE TEXTURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OMG!amorbis1001

HAHAHAAHAHAHHAAHAH

LAUGH OF THE DAY, HE SAID HALO HAD GOOD GRAPHOCS AND TEXTURES.JHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA

WE ALL NO THATS NOT TRUE, AND DONT EVEN BOTHER POSTING SCREENS. AHAHAHAH

THIS IS MGS4 VS THE UNREAL ENGINE. and again halo dose nto have as mush story going on or as mush going on at screen, taht has to use cpu ai

lolz dont bother post scren cuz you know ur wrong, and as for unreal engine, unreal tournament has alot going onscreen and still looks better than MGS4

but dose it have as mush story, that takes time for the devs to make, so that everything runs smoothly with the game?

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#28 Mordred19
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[QUOTE="G10mgs4"]

[QUOTE="akuma303x"]watch the new HALO3 campaign vid in HD at IGn. THOSE ARE TEXTURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OMG!amorbis1001

HAHAHAAHAHAHHAAHAH

LAUGH OF THE DAY, HE SAID HALO HAD GOOD GRAPHOCS AND TEXTURES.JHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA

WE ALL NO THATS NOT TRUE, AND DONT EVEN BOTHER POSTING SCREENS. AHAHAHAH

THIS IS MGS4 VS THE UNREAL ENGINE. and again halo dose nto have as mush story going on or as mush going on at screen, taht has to use cpu ai

lolz dont bother post scren cuz you know ur wrong, and as for unreal engine, unreal tournament has alot going onscreen and still looks better than MGS4

and it's on the PS3. so...

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#29 Mordred19
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[QUOTE="Mordred19"]

[QUOTE="amorbis1001"]lol it is all about the ps3 bottle necked ram space.amorbis1001

not really. more like the GPU which isn't quite as powerful as the 360's. textures have been an issue for a while, but it has options for dealing with any RAM issue.

the rastirizer in the ps3 gpu is just a beefed up 7900 and it has xdr ram so the speed of the ram isn't and issue I think is is the space and how the rasterizer deals with the textures. but yeah it is not all to do witht he ram due to the super speed xdr.

and nice big HDD cache for the system to feedoff ofhelps things enormously.

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#30 amorbis1001
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[QUOTE="amorbis1001"][QUOTE="G10mgs4"]

[QUOTE="akuma303x"]watch the new HALO3 campaign vid in HD at IGn. THOSE ARE TEXTURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OMG!Mordred19

HAHAHAAHAHAHHAAHAH

LAUGH OF THE DAY, HE SAID HALO HAD GOOD GRAPHOCS AND TEXTURES.JHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA

WE ALL NO THATS NOT TRUE, AND DONT EVEN BOTHER POSTING SCREENS. AHAHAHAH

THIS IS MGS4 VS THE UNREAL ENGINE. and again halo dose nto have as mush story going on or as mush going on at screen, taht has to use cpu ai

lolz dont bother post scren cuz you know ur wrong, and as for unreal engine, unreal tournament has alot going onscreen and still looks better than MGS4

and it's on the PS3. so...

and it has more things unscreen than mgs4 but yet it looks better so the tread fail.

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#31 Viviath
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[QUOTE="Mordred19"][QUOTE="amorbis1001"][QUOTE="G10mgs4"]

[QUOTE="akuma303x"]watch the new HALO3 campaign vid in HD at IGn. THOSE ARE TEXTURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OMG!amorbis1001

HAHAHAAHAHAHHAAHAH

LAUGH OF THE DAY, HE SAID HALO HAD GOOD GRAPHOCS AND TEXTURES.JHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA

WE ALL NO THATS NOT TRUE, AND DONT EVEN BOTHER POSTING SCREENS. AHAHAHAH

THIS IS MGS4 VS THE UNREAL ENGINE. and again halo dose nto have as mush story going on or as mush going on at screen, taht has to use cpu ai

lolz dont bother post scren cuz you know ur wrong, and as for unreal engine, unreal tournament has alot going onscreen and still looks better than MGS4

and it's on the PS3. so...

and it has more things unscreen than mgs4 but yet it looks better so the tread fail.

wait...wat are u guys argueing about?

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#32 xPGxCOOL
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ai doesnt take up graphics fool
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#34 xPGxCOOL
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its not the ram cuz the data can be streamed from the disc
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#35 xPGxCOOL
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plus that ram is 3.2 ghz. so yep its just the engine. and why that pic it sucks. pic a better one
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[QUOTE="amorbis1001"][QUOTE="Mordred19"][QUOTE="amorbis1001"][QUOTE="G10mgs4"]

[QUOTE="akuma303x"]watch the new HALO3 campaign vid in HD at IGn. THOSE ARE TEXTURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OMG!Viviath

HAHAHAAHAHAHHAAHAH

LAUGH OF THE DAY, HE SAID HALO HAD GOOD GRAPHOCS AND TEXTURES.JHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA

WE ALL NO THATS NOT TRUE, AND DONT EVEN BOTHER POSTING SCREENS. AHAHAHAH

THIS IS MGS4 VS THE UNREAL ENGINE. and again halo dose nto have as mush story going on or as mush going on at screen, taht has to use cpu ai

lolz dont bother post scren cuz you know ur wrong, and as for unreal engine, unreal tournament has alot going onscreen and still looks better than MGS4

and it's on the PS3. so...

and it has more things unscreen than mgs4 but yet it looks better so the tread fail.

wait...wat are u guys argueing about?

Cheese?

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It is the best looking consolegame by far so far.
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#38 realmadrid4lyfe
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MGS always has good graphics.
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Dead Rising.

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[QUOTE="akuma303x"]watch the new HALO3 campaign vid in HD at IGn. THOSE ARE TEXTURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OMG!G10mgs4

HAHAHAAHAHAHHAAHAH

LAUGH OF THE DAY, HE SAID HALO HAD GOOD GRAPHOCS AND TEXTURES.JHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA

WE ALL NO THATS NOT TRUE, AND DONT EVEN BOTHER POSTING SCREENS. AHAHAHAH

THIS IS MGS4 VS THE UNREAL ENGINE. and again halo dose nto have as mush story going on or as mush going on at screen, taht has to use cpu ai

well it is apparent that u are a MGS Fanboy and there is nothing wrong withthat but if u think that at the current build of MGS4 has better textures then Halo3 then there really is something wrong with u maybe in the future the game will have better textures
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Nice Tree, Is there any color in this game? Ugly
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[QUOTE="Smakkjoo"]12-14 people on screen and still lookin' deliciousG10mgs4

YOU HEAR ME WITH ALL THAT ACTION GOING ON IN ONE PLACE. i have never seen a game that look like mgs4 on the 360 with everything going on like this.....

waits for some dumb idiot to post screens of a medicore game like kameo, and say look at teh textuuuuuuureeeesss

10 enemies isnt much, painkiller has 30+ and better graphics.

the graphics in mgs4 suck also.

the game's gonna suck who's actually hyped or gonna waste money on that trash? not me

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#43 50u1r34v3r
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Yes, it looks great, and it will probably be a great game as well.

But am I the only one that noticed that apart from snake, everybody onscreen looks the same?

It's just the same textures recycled.

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[QUOTE="akuma303x"]watch the new HALO3 campaign vid in HD at IGn. THOSE ARE TEXTURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OMG!G10mgs4

HAHAHAAHAHAHHAAHAH

LAUGH OF THE DAY, HE SAID HALO HAD GOOD GRAPHOCS AND TEXTURES.JHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA

WE ALL NO THATS NOT TRUE, AND DONT EVEN BOTHER POSTING SCREENS. AHAHAHAH

THIS IS MGS4 VS THE UNREAL ENGINE. and again halo dose nto have as mush story going on or as mush going on at screen, taht has to use cpu ai

Lol MGS vs UE engine you are a joke... It wouldnt be good if all games went green on us.... its like we are living Black and White all over again lol. that would be horrible. Can you Imagine... oow well Lemms cant call MGS last gen you are lucky...

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#45 Fruity_mixer
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Most models are the repeat of one. Lol MGS 4 will be a good game, but please dont hype its GFX, it just isnt as good.

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#46 solidte
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Well, I don't know why people are bagging MGS4s technical merits, it's looking splendiferous, people shouldn't compare it took say a game like Gears, different artstyle and a much, much more open area, since Gears has generally one or two set paths it is much easier to make one hallway look amazing rather than make seven hallways look amazing, it takes more time, MGS4 look incredible, why can't people leave it at that? Character models are detailed, wartorn buildings look exquisute, little subtle touches are there like Snakes hair blowing in the wind, pieces of rubbish flying through the air, blur effects too are looking good and some resplendent explosions and smoke effects.

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#47 AscendancyTR
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mgs is terrible allround.
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#48 justforlotr2004
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there is simply too many players on the screen at ounce, and there is alot of story and cutscnece and sound in this game that takes up a lot of space. this is agame hwere there is alot going on and there is a whole lot on the screen, as you can see there are about 12 people in this one screen. unlike 8 players at once like the praized 360 game out there.

G10mgs4

I didnt realise this was multiplayer, because Gears only is limited to 8 players in multiplayer, there is more going on in the campaign.

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#49 Ontain
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there is simply too many players on the screen at ounce, and there is alot of story and cutscnece and sound in this game that takes up a lot of space. this is agame hwere there is alot going on and there is a whole lot on the screen, as you can see there are about 12 people in this one screen. unlike 8 players at once like the praized 360 game out there.

G10mgs4

your arguement would be more convicing if all those characters didn't look exactly the same. it's basically one model cut and pasted. not more work than any one model in another game.

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#50 waza000
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i don't get the point you are trying to prove