NPD February 2018 leak: PS4 >> XB1 > Switch (PS4 beat Switch by 30%?!)

Well, I have to eat some crow here. I wasn't expecting Switch to not only lose, but to lose by 30% compared to PS4. I guess the lack of games this year so far is taking its toll. However, it sounds like all three sold well, so my guess is that Switch just didn't get any boost from tax returns.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/february-2018-npd-u-s-hardware-predictions-closes-tuesday-march-13th.27342/page-4#post-5741330

Game hardware (including SNES Classic) sales volume in the US was up 38% YoY in February 2018 (up 38% in Apr–Feb FY3/18) and software sales volume was up 5% (flat in Apr–Feb).

The relative sales volumes of game hardware (incl. SNES Classics) was:

PS4: 1.3

XBox One: 1.11

Switch: 1

Others: 0.49

3DS: 0.37

On the software side:

By SKU, the top-selling title was Monster Hunter: World for PS4, followed by Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo), and Super Mario Odyssey (Nintendo).

I think digitals are not included in these numbers.

Note: RELATIVE MEANS A COMPARISON OF SALES! THOSE FIGURES ARE NOT MILLIONS! IT'S HOW MUCH EACH CONSOLE SOLD COMPARED TO SWITCH'S SALES FOR THE MONTH! THEY ARE NOT EXACT FIGURES! IF YOU SEE AN ARTICLE CALLING THESE MILLIONS, IT IS WRONG! YOU WILL NEVER SEE A CONSOLE SELL A MILLION IN NPD OUTSIDE OF A HOLIDAY MONTH, EVER!

With that said:

Yes, PS4 was the top..but that doesn't mean the others were doing poorly.. Switch hardware sales are also progressing in line with Nintendo's guidance and sales of Nintendo software, especially its own major titles, appear to be favorable.

March will be Switch's first month of the year with a new game. I imagine it should start to bounce back then. Either way though, PS4 is unstoppable. Will it ever slow down!?

EDIT: Estimated sales ( https://www.resetera.com/threads/february-2018-npd-u-s-hardware-predictions-closes-tuesday-march-13th.27342/page-7#post-5749547 ):

PS4: ~364K (-9% YoY)

XB1: ~310K (+44% YoY)

NSW: ~279K

OTH: ~137K

3DS: ~103K

So yeah, very good all around.

All 3 above, or at, 1mil. No one is sad with that... I think.

No, you're reading that wrong. It's relative sales using Switch as the comparison point. You're never going to see anywhere near a million sales for any console outside of the holidays.

Let me guess, Switch was sold out right?

Why compare a Handheld to home consoles? I just don't get it. :P

That monster hunter hustle! I have to say Capcom's crossover into the mainstream has been a success... well done!!

But moving forward, if NPD decides it doesnt want to include digital sales it will be hard to take any sales numbers or list seriously. Stuck in the past and not accounting for what has to be a large number of sales.

Well it looks like all three did good again and that is all I expect. Competition is good for our industry and I am glad they are all three selling well. That is a good thing!

No. That's only a thing in Japan now. I know you're attempting to troll though. It's sad and pathetic that you want a platform to fail though.

Digital numbers just haven't been released yet. Those come tomorrow, which is why the official report is tomorrow.

It isn't sold out anywhere in the US.

@techhog89: Ahh I see... so official results include digital then. Good

Wow In 2018 PS4 destroying the almighty Xb1x. I guess people prefer console exclusives over raw power .

Yes... Though, with that said a lot of digital storefronts don't report to NPD.

People care about one country? MS, Sony and Nintendo likely do not.

I think it more like sold a few more!

Er... yes? The US is the country where all three push their biggest numbers, especially MS. Without the US XBox One would have been discontinued a year after launch.

Thank you Nintendo and Sony for electrifying the industry with awesome sells and great exclusive experiences.

Thread updated with estimated numbers.

@tigerbalm: MS exclusive SoT is out tomorrow so let’s thank them as well!

Yeah baby... Yeah!!!

:D

If true , that's an impressive victory for the PS4. Switch is a pretty hot product , and Xbox had $50 off sales.

Once smash comes out, expect another resurgence of switch.

@boycie: You are well within your right to thank Microsoft for multiplatform games.

All three did very well and are all quite close to each which is nice to see. Kudos to Capcom for the success that it is having with Monster Hunter World, such an awesome game I love it.

I can't get enough Monster Hunter World. 240+ hrs into it and still Loving it. It's also amazing how many people are available to play with on PS4. No matter what time of day, there's instantly people joining quests. (The beauty of having worldwide sales instead of just U.S. sales)

@joshrmeyer: Same with the Xbox One version. I always have people instantly joining my quests as well whenever I play. It can sometimes be difficult to join quests because they fill up so fast.

@Archangel3371: That's awesome news! Someone else had said they had to wait 15 minutes to find a group for tempered monsters. Ironically (well not really), they seem to fill up the fastest. He might have just been an troll though(he was referring to MHW on Xbox). I'm all for exclusives, but this is one game I'm really glad is on both consoles. More people buying it, means more DLC hopefully... And it's a game that could have been overlooked if it was another exclusive. Glad you're enjoying it! I'm at HR 154 now using 3 of vaals armor, and two of nergs. All augmented. Also have all nergs, vaals, and xenos augmented, and a few randoms. Most of my level 7 and 8 weapons have health Regen augmented also. And still only 2.5 mil zennies to spend lol. Crazy amount of end game fun.

I have Monster Hunter on Xbox and I have never had an issue getting in a group. That person was a cow troll just trying to make Xbox Online look bad. The funny part is the majority of cows in that thread took it as the truth. Which was funny.

The Xbox One X was never made to compete against the regular PS4 dumb ass. Comparing a $500 machine against a $200-$250 machine is just moronic, but I don't expect much out of cows anymore. I would like to see PS4 Pro numbers against X numbers though, that would be more interesting.

BTW the Xbox was up 44% which shows the X is probably helping those sale numbers.

@joshrmeyer: Well I definitely haven’t encountered any wait times myself especially as long as 15 minutes. Yeah the tempered elder dragon ones are always in hot demand. I’m currently at HR 140 something and have a few armor sets maxed out level wise. I have most of the small and large gold crowns but need ones for the elder dragons and a couple large monsters. It’ll take awhile trying to get those. I’ve already put in about 300 hours and am still having a lot of fun playing this game. Really looking forward to when Devil Jho comes out as well as any more content and updates.

To be honest, those are good numbers for x1. Thought it would sell less than 4k.

SONY DOMINATION CONTINUATION

XBoneX confirmed flop

I love how cows downplay the Xbox, the brand itself is way up this year compared to last, they're right up there with SONY.

Glad to see MS healthy again where it matters, North America.

No one ever seems to bring that up, but it's probably the PS4s best feature.

It is funny that they are calling the X a flop when it is the reason their numbers are competitive again right now. Seems the X is doing just fine and it is healthy. Also find it funny that the Cows expected the X to compete against a $200-250 box also. WTF is wrong with people!

I would love to see PS4 Pro numbers to Xbox One X now that would be interesting.

? But a certain group of rodents and their leader told me exclusives don't matter and that gamers only care about multiplats on a certain $500 watercooler lol.

@quadknight said:

? But a certain group of rodents and their leader told me exclusives don't matter and that gamers only care about multiplats on a certain $500 watercooler lol.

Yeah but as many PS fans used to say that having the most powerful console mattered as well. As the leader of the PS fans do you agree?

@boycie said:

@quadknight said:

? But a certain group of rodents and their leader told me exclusives don't matter and that gamers only care about multiplats on a certain $500 watercooler lol.

Yeah but as many PS fans used to say that having the most powerful console mattered as well. As the leader of the PS do you agree?

It mattered at the start of the gen because MS was charging more money for the weaker console. It doesn't matter now because not only is Sony charging $100 less for the weaker console they have a much better library of games.

It's very simple to see why the FlopBone is getting its ass kicked. There's no conspiracy against Xbox.

What MS did charging $500 for a 720p machine was stupid as hell.

@Xabiss: I only took it as truth because of how many Japanese players I play with. It's like 2 out of 3 players I join or join me are Japanese... Sometimes all 3 are. And I know Xbox sells bad in Japan, so I figured that might be why... Like that guy was playing at weird times or something.

@quadknight said:

@boycie said:

@quadknight said:

? But a certain group of rodents and their leader told me exclusives don't matter and that gamers only care about multiplats on a certain $500 watercooler lol.

Yeah but as many PS fans used to say that having the most powerful console mattered as well. As the leader of the PS do you agree?

It mattered at the start of the gen because MS was charging more money for the weaker console. It doesn't matter now because not only is Sony charging $100 less for the weaker console they have a much better library of games.

It's very simple to see why the FlopBone is getting its ass kicked. There's no conspiracy against Xbox.

What MS did charging $500 for a 720p machine was stupid as hell.

Yeah, I agree. MS royally fucked up at the beginning of this gen. But I do believe they can turn it around just like Sony did last gen after fucking up there launch.

@boycie said:

@quadknight said:

@boycie said:

@quadknight said:

? But a certain group of rodents and their leader told me exclusives don't matter and that gamers only care about multiplats on a certain $500 watercooler lol.

Yeah but as many PS fans used to say that having the most powerful console mattered as well. As the leader of the PS do you agree?

It mattered at the start of the gen because MS was charging more money for the weaker console. It doesn't matter now because not only is Sony charging $100 less for the weaker console they have a much better library of games.

It's very simple to see why the FlopBone is getting its ass kicked. There's no conspiracy against Xbox.

What MS did charging $500 for a 720p machine was stupid as hell.

Yeah, I agree. MS royally fucked up at the beginning of this gen. But I do believe they can turn it around just like Sony did last gen after fucking up there launch.

Anything is possible but so far I'm not seeing any real signs of them turning it around. With Sony last gen we could see it after Uncharted 2 released that Sony was turning the ship around. We're still yet to see a major blockbuster on the Xbone.

If they are going to turn the ship around now is the time to. Sea of Thieves, State of Decay 2, and Crackdown 3 aren't what I would consider turning things around especially Crackdown 3.

We'll just have wait to see what they show at E3. I personally think it's too late for them this gen.

What is crazy is that the Xbox One S was heavily discounted that month too. Big promotions. Sony didn't have promotions or new bundles, and still took the crown for the month. That's wild.

It begins... I was expecting this. Once BotW and SMO released, and with no proper 3rd party support, the Switch numbers would fall down. The hype around the switch is starting to die out unless Nintendo releases some Pokemon or SSB soon

saying this, I was tempted into buying a Switch this past weekend with 80€ off in a sale (it would be around 250€) but I think I'll still wait a little longer

@boycie said:

@quadknight said:

@boycie said:

@quadknight said:

? But a certain group of rodents and their leader told me exclusives don't matter and that gamers only care about multiplats on a certain $500 watercooler lol.

Yeah but as many PS fans used to say that having the most powerful console mattered as well. As the leader of the PS do you agree?

It mattered at the start of the gen because MS was charging more money for the weaker console. It doesn't matter now because not only is Sony charging $100 less for the weaker console they have a much better library of games.

It's very simple to see why the FlopBone is getting its ass kicked. There's no conspiracy against Xbox.

What MS did charging $500 for a 720p machine was stupid as hell.

Yeah, I agree. MS royally fucked up at the beginning of this gen. But I do believe they can turn it around just like Sony did last gen after fucking up there launch.

Nah, this gen is lost. Unless they have a bunch unannounced surprise games for this holiday or something, they might as well get started on next gen. I'm not even sure Halo 6 can move the needle anymore, so I don't think announcing XBONE games even helps them. But they need some games to keep chugging along, otherwise it could be a total blowout.

I think they blew it again with Xbox One X being $499. While it's clearly the most powerful console, it's still the same "gen" as the console they have been offering for $200 (the one that started out $499 vs. the PS3's $399). That seems rather crazy to me. They probably should have saved the chassis for the X, beefed it up a bit, and released it as a "next gen" in 2019. Get a heads up that way.

@daredevils2k: Destroying? Your udders playing up again? PS4 sales are down 9% year on year, while Xbox is up 44%.... All consoles are selling very well - something that a gamer like you are no doubt happy about - but 50k more units is hardly destroying.

@boycie said:

@quadknight said:

? But a certain group of rodents and their leader told me exclusives don't matter and that gamers only care about multiplats on a certain $500 watercooler lol.

Yeah but as many PS fans used to say that having the most powerful console mattered as well. As the leader of the PS fans do you agree?

Having the more powerful console at a similar price matters as well. You're actually paying for a 100 bucks difference with the Pro and X. But so much from Xbox went wrong that they couldn't even stabilize no matter what the price, and they have to sell the base model at a massive loss just to have comparable sales in the US.

Xbone and PS4 sales were boosted by Monster Hunter. Switch will be back on top again in no time.

And yet PS4 still won the month. Percentages are misleading. Xbox hasn't won a single month in NPD since 2016 and the US is the only market they are still competitive in.

44% up from a low number is still low while being down 9% from a high number can still be high.

He's right the Xbone is getting destroyed on its home turf.

Good news that all three sold so well, and a 44% increase yoy for Xbox shows that the X is doing well, which must mean MS wins out on revenue? All three machines have games I want coming out in the near future too...good time to be a gamer.

@quadknight: I guess that depends on your definition of destroyed. A destroyed console doesn't see sales go up year on year... No matter what the sales were last year. Selling more than the recently launched Switch is not getting destroyed. A destroyed console would have a weak launch and then see sales go down yoy. That's not happening here.... PS4 only sold 50,000 more, despite Xbox apparently having "no games".

I'm surprised Xbox beat out switch, but I'm happy all three are doing well.

You should be too....

Please do not tell the truth on this forum. The fanboys, especially cows, do not know how to handle the truth. You are correct the X has given a big boost to Microsoft. Sony is still printing money with the PS4 and Nintendo is still doing just fine. This is just good news all around for all three of them!