NPD: MARCH - Keep it here

The RE5 360 number blew my mind, I can't believe it outsold Pokemon. Also:

Every system was down YoY this month except 360. :(

PS3 is down YoY for the 5th month in a row.

Halo Wars barely outsold KZ2 Feb + Mar. numbers.

No ChinaTown Wars, I guess the 200k prediction turned out to be correct.

[QUOTE="bez2083"]

[QUOTE="bez2083"]

Predictions for this sticky:

-Someone will bellow that "sales don't matter."

-Someone will mention shovelware when referring to the Wii.

-Someone will bring up RRoD/E-74 for 360.

-Someone will bring up 1-year head start for 360.

-Someone will say that sales for KZ2 are "just fine.

-Someone will say NA=/= World, as well as a Sales=/= Quality post.

-Someone will mock Halo Wars score.

-Someone will reference Japan's #'s not realizing that these numbers make those somewhat irrelevant.

-Someone will lol @ RE5 selling more on 360 than PS3

Ready.............GO!!

ActicEdge

OK, this is my finalized verison. I'm sure within the hour all will be completed.

Perfect. I think you got all of it, nice work 8)

We should do this every NDP like a little game. Who can predict the most spins for the day. That would be awesome

360 continues to increase in sales when it comes to YoY, while the rest continue to drop and Halo Wars outsells KZ2. So much for the 360 losing steam or slowing down. It is speeding up according to these numbers. PS3 in 3rd place for this generation confirmed.

RE5 numbers for the 360 are godly.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="bez2083"]

OK, this is my finalized verison. I'm sure within the hour all will be completed.

Episode_Eve

Perfect. I think you got all of it, nice work 8)

We should do this every NDP like a little game. Who can predict the most spins for the day. That would be awesome

I wouldn't call it spin since its true. Its more like damage control because its only brought up to justify unfavourable reults.

Anyway, I wonder if the mods will let me do something like that. I should PM one and ask.

So since every console is down from last month and YoY (except 360) can we conclude the recession is finally hitting in the US?

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Perfect. I think you got all of it, nice work 8)

We should do this every NDP like a little game. Who can predict the most spins for the day. That would be awesome

ActicEdge

I wouldn't call it spin since its true. Its more like damage control because its only brought up to justify unfavourable reults.

Anyway, I wonder if the mods will let me do something like that. I should PM one and ask.

Sounds fun. One thing I'll say that I don't consider to be "spin" is: sales don't equal quality of a game. And we're off :P.Episode_Eve

Offtopic but good job with that article you wrote. :P

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"] Sounds fun. One thing I'll say that I don't consider to be "spin" is: sales don't equal quality of a game. And we're off :P.ActicEdge

I wouldn't call it spin since its true. Its more like damage control because its only brought up to justify unfavourable reults.

Anyway, I wonder if the mods will let me do something like that. I should PM one and ask.

What do you mean, in SW's history, there have been many threads that have tackled that topic, and the results are the same, sales don't equate quality.

Here's an example of SW:

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Player : Man, I can't wait to play the new De Blob game!

Fanboy : It's going to flop!

*Game comes out, doesn't flop*

Fanboys : Lulz, the Sales are crap!

Player : I never said anything about sales, I wanted this game and it's great! Sales don't equate quality anyways!

You : Damage Control! (?)

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The reverse scenario you don't have people thrusting SMG's greatness due to sales either.

SMG is a great game because it's a great game, not because it sells.

So, I would have to disagree.

Sales only matter to the publishers and Developers, and the gamers should be happy, because MAYBE we may get a sequel, but no promises.

Is Wii Fit, Hannah Montana, and Barbie the best games now because they are hot?

It seems to me that Sales are used for ownage, not praise, nor damage control.

If a crappy game is praised, and someone mentions sales, then we have some Damage Control.

So since every console is down from last month and YoY (except 360) can we conclude the recession is finally hitting in the US?

Shy_Guy_Red

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"] Sounds fun. One thing I'll say that I don't consider to be "spin" is: sales don't equal quality of a game. And we're off :P.Episode_Eve

I wouldn't call it spin since its true. Its more like damage control because its only brought up to justify unfavourable reults.

Anyway, I wonder if the mods will let me do something like that. I should PM one and ask.

Don't think that I'm disagreeing or agreeing with the list I posted. I'm not referring to any of this a spin or DC, I'm merely just trying to see who is going to do the actions posted on the list, nothing more.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"] Sounds fun. One thing I'll say that I don't consider to be "spin" is: sales don't equal quality of a game. And we're off :P.SolidTy

I wouldn't call it spin since its true. Its more like damage control because its only brought up to justify unfavourable reults.

Anyway, I wonder if the mods will let me do something like that. I should PM one and ask.

What do you mean, in SW's history, there have been many threads that have tackled that topic, and the results are the same, sales don't equate quality.

Here's an example of SW:

----------------------------------

Player : Man, I can't wait to play the new De Blob game!

Fanboy : It's going to flop!

*Game comes out, doesn't flop*

Fanboys : Lulz, the Sales are crap!

Player : I never said anything about sales, I wanted this game and it's great! Sales don't equate quality anyways!

-----------------------------------

The reverse scenario you don't have people thrusting SMG's greatness due to sales either.

SMG is a great game because it's a great game, not because it sells.

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I wouldn't call it spin since its true. Its more like damage control because its only brought up to justify unfavourable reults.

Anyway, I wonder if the mods will let me do something like that. I should PM one and ask.

bez2083

Don't think that I'm disagreeing or agreeing with the list I posted. I'm not referring to any of this a spin or DC, I'm merely just trying to see who is going to do the actions posted on the list, nothing more.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I wouldn't call it spin since its true. Its more like damage control because its only brought up to justify unfavourable reults.

Anyway, I wonder if the mods will let me do something like that. I should PM one and ask.

Episode_Eve

What do you mean, in SW's history, there have been many threads that have tackled that topic, and the results are the same, sales don't equate quality.

Here's an example of SW:

----------------------------------

Player : Man, I can't wait to play the new De Blob game!

Fanboy : It's going to flop!

*Game comes out, doesn't flop*

Fanboys : Lulz, the Sales are crap!

Player : I never said anything about sales, I wanted this game and it's great! Sales don't equate quality anyways!

-----------------------------------

The reverse scenario you don't have people thrusting SMG's greatness due to sales either.

SMG is a great game because it's a great game, not because it sells.

So, is Hannah Montana, Barbie, and Wii Fit great? Those are some sellers right there!

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

What do you mean, in SW's history, there have been many threads that have tackled that topic, and the results are the same, sales don't equate quality.

Here's an example of SW:

----------------------------------

Player : Man, I can't wait to play the new De Blob game!

Fanboy : It's going to flop!

*Game comes out, doesn't flop*

Fanboys : Lulz, the Sales are crap!

Player : I never said anything about sales, I wanted this game and it's great! Sales don't equate quality anyways!

-----------------------------------

The reverse scenario you don't have people thrusting SMG's greatness due to sales either.

SMG is a great game because it's a great game, not because it sells.

SolidTy

So, is Hannah Montana, Barbie, and Wii Fit great? Those are some sellers right there!

What do you mean, in SW's history, there have been many threads that have tackled that topic, and the results are the same, sales don't equate quality.

Here's an example of SW:

----------------------------------

Player : Man, I can't wait to play the new De Blob game!

Fanboy : It's going to flop!

*Game comes out, doesn't flop*

Fanboys : Lulz, the Sales are crap!

Player : I never said anything about sales, I wanted this game and it's great! Sales don't equate quality anyways!

-----------------------------------

The reverse scenario you don't have people thrusting SMG's greatness due to sales either.

SMG is a great game because it's a great game, not because it sells.

So, I would have to disagree.

Sales only matter to the publishers and Developers, and the gamers should be happy, because MAYBE we may get a sequel, but no promises.

SolidTy

I don't think that was his point. If I understood him correctly, he said that, in thread about sales (like this one), people pointing the very obvious ("sales don't equal qualiy) or bringing scores to the mix ("9>8") are damage controlling unfavourable reults.

I think we all know sales don't equal quality (neither do reviews, btw.), it's just another topic we discuss here.

when people say sales dont equal quality what do they mean about quality? re5 and halo wars are fun games and im pretty sure pokemon and mlb09 is fun for people thats why it sold well because people buy quality fun games. also people find quality in buying a wii, ds, and 360, because for those price points they have more quality than a more expensive console

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

What do you mean, in SW's history, there have been many threads that have tackled that topic, and the results are the same, sales don't equate quality.

Here's an example of SW:

----------------------------------

Player : Man, I can't wait to play the new De Blob game!

Fanboy : It's going to flop!

*Game comes out, doesn't flop*

Fanboys : Lulz, the Sales are crap!

Player : I never said anything about sales, I wanted this game and it's great! Sales don't equate quality anyways!

-----------------------------------

The reverse scenario you don't have people thrusting SMG's greatness due to sales either.

SMG is a great game because it's a great game, not because it sells.

SolidTy

So, is Hannah Montana, Barbie, and Wii Fit great? Those are some sellers right there!

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"] Sounds fun. One thing I'll say that I don't consider to be "spin" is: sales don't equal quality of a game. And we're off :P.SolidTy

I wouldn't call it spin since its true. Its more like damage control because its only brought up to justify unfavourable reults.

Anyway, I wonder if the mods will let me do something like that. I should PM one and ask.

What do you mean, in SW's history, there have been many threads that have tackled that topic, and the results are the same, sales don't equate quality.

Here's an example of SW:

----------------------------------

Player : Man, I can't wait to play the new De Blob game!

Fanboy : It's going to flop!

*Game comes out, doesn't flop*

Fanboys : Lulz, the Sales are crap!

Player : I never said anything about sales, I wanted this game and it's great! Sales don't equate quality anyways!

-----------------------------------

The reverse scenario you don't have people thrusting SMG's greatness due to sales either.

SMG is a great game because it's a great game, not because it sells.

So, I would have to disagree.

Sales only matter to the publishers and Developers, and the gamers should be happy, because MAYBE we may get a sequel, but no promises.

I think you misinterpreted, I DON'T think sales equal quality and it not a spin like Eve said because a spin would imply that sales = quality is true even though it obviously isn't. I said its more along the lines of damage control because that arguement only comes up when results aren't favourable for a faction and they use it as defense which is funny becasuase no one thinks sales = quality. I will say however that I care about sales very much, just not about the bragging, gloating and ownage that come along with it, that's a waste of time to me.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

What do you mean, in SW's history, there have been many threads that have tackled that topic, and the results are the same, sales don't equate quality.

Here's an example of SW:

----------------------------------

Player : Man, I can't wait to play the new De Blob game!

Fanboy : It's going to flop!

*Game comes out, doesn't flop*

Fanboys : Lulz, the Sales are crap!

Player : I never said anything about sales, I wanted this game and it's great! Sales don't equate quality anyways!

-----------------------------------

The reverse scenario you don't have people thrusting SMG's greatness due to sales either.

SMG is a great game because it's a great game, not because it sells.

So, I would have to disagree.

Sales only matter to the publishers and Developers, and the gamers should be happy, because MAYBE we may get a sequel, but no promises.

IronBass

I don't think that was his point. If I understood him correctly, he said that, in thread about sales (like this one), people pointing the very obvious ("sales don't equal qualiy) or bringing scores to the mix ("9>8") are damage controlling unfavourable reults.

I think we all know sales don't equal quality (neither do reviews, btw.), it's just another topic we discuss here.

So, what you are saying is that in my scenario, "PLAYER" shouldn't go into a Sales thread?

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I wouldn't call it spin since its true. Its more like damage control because its only brought up to justify unfavourable reults.

Anyway, I wonder if the mods will let me do something like that. I should PM one and ask.

ActicEdge

What do you mean, in SW's history, there have been many threads that have tackled that topic, and the results are the same, sales don't equate quality.

Here's an example of SW:

----------------------------------

Player : Man, I can't wait to play the new De Blob game!

Fanboy : It's going to flop!

*Game comes out, doesn't flop*

Fanboys : Lulz, the Sales are crap!

Player : I never said anything about sales, I wanted this game and it's great! Sales don't equate quality anyways!

-----------------------------------

The reverse scenario you don't have people thrusting SMG's greatness due to sales either.

SMG is a great game because it's a great game, not because it sells.

So, I would have to disagree.

Sales only matter to the publishers and Developers, and the gamers should be happy, because MAYBE we may get a sequel, but no promises.

I think you misinterpreted, I DON'T think sales equal quality and it not a spin like Eve said because a spin would imply that sales = quality is true even though it obviously isn't. I said its more along the lines of damage control because that arguement only comes up when results aren't favourable for a faction and they use it as defense which is funny becasuase no one thinks sales = quality. I will say however that I care about sales very much, just not about the bragging, gloating and ownage that come along with it, that's a waste of time to me.

Oh, well, I'm glad I asked. :P

I'm just trying to get a bearing on this.

Predictions for this sticky:

-Someone will bellow that "sales don't matter."

-Someone will mention shovelware when referring to the Wii.

-Someone will bring up RRoD/E-74 for 360.

-Someone will bring up 1-year head start for 360.

-Someone will say that sales for KZ2 are "just fine.

-Someone will say NA=/= World, as well as a Sales=/= Quality post.

-Someone will mock Halo Wars score.

-Someone will reference Japan's #'s not realizing that these numbers make those somewhat irrelevant.

-Someone will lol @ RE5 selling more on 360 than PS3

Ready.............GO!!

bez2083

So, what you are saying is that in my scenario, "PLAYER" shouldn't go into a Sales thread?

[QUOTE="ASK_Story"]Did anyone else think or Sony fanboys claim that Killzone 2 will sell tons of PS3s? Not good for Sony. I bet Sony thought that as well. I did too, honestly.heretrix

From what I hear, they never said that. They just claimed it would be a modest seller with a respectable online community.

when people say sales dont equal quality what do they mean about quality? re5 and halo wars are fun games and im pretty sure pokemon and mlb09 is fun for people thats why it sold well because people buy quality fun games. also people find quality in buying a wii, ds, and 360, because for those price points they have more quality than a more expensive console

_SWAG_

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"] That's because SMG is a quality game AND it sold great :P.

Lem-Risen

So, is Hannah Montana, Barbie, and Wii Fit great? Those are some sellers right there!

They are probably great for the first couple of days, but even then, I think that dies down. I remember having to talk my brother out of some stupid Harry Potter game, and buy Zelda instead. It was like pulling teeth, eventually, I let him buy Potter, and sure enough, a few days later, we were trading it in, and I made sure he listened to me next time, since the trade cost him $20 for two days.

I guess it's a tough lesson he had to learn, but he learned it fast.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

So, what you are saying is that in my scenario, "PLAYER" shouldn't go into a Sales thread?

IronBass

:lol:

Okay, now we are getting somehere. :P

[QUOTE="_SWAG_"]

when people say sales dont equal quality what do they mean about quality? re5 and halo wars are fun games and im pretty sure pokemon and mlb09 is fun for people thats why it sold well because people buy quality fun games. also people find quality in buying a wii, ds, and 360, because for those price points they have more quality than a more expensive console

Episode_Eve

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="ASK_Story"]Did anyone else think or Sony fanboys claim that Killzone 2 will sell tons of PS3s? Not good for Sony. I bet Sony thought that as well. I did too, honestly.rolo107

From what I hear, they never said that. They just claimed it would be a modest seller with a respectable online community.

Guitar Hero Metallica (360) got #11.

No, did ChinaTown even break 200k? :(

PS3 is down YoY for the 5th month in a row.

Shy_Guy_Red

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="_SWAG_"]

when people say sales dont equal quality what do they mean about quality? re5 and halo wars are fun games and im pretty sure pokemon and mlb09 is fun for people thats why it sold well because people buy quality fun games. also people find quality in buying a wii, ds, and 360, because for those price points they have more quality than a more expensive console

_SWAG_

I'll say it again.Just an observation butthe fact that Mario Kart Wii continues to be in the top 10 whereas GTAIV hasn't has really surprised me since both titles were released at around the same time. Last year, if you were to say that Mario Kart WII would still be in the top 10almost a year after its release in NA instead of GTAIV, in which San Andreas sold a lot, you wouldbe flammed and called a fanboy.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="ASK_Story"]Did anyone else think or Sony fanboys claim that Killzone 2 will sell tons of PS3s? Not good for Sony. I bet Sony thought that as well. I did too, honestly.rolo107

From what I hear, they never said that. They just claimed it would be a modest seller with a respectable online community.

Whoa, fellas, you are killing the thread with teh logic:cry:

[QUOTE="Shy_Guy_Red"]

PS3 is down YoY for the 5th month in a row.

surrealnumber5

I meant in the US. :P

[QUOTE="Shy_Guy_Red"]

PS3 is down YoY for the 5th month in a row.

surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="Shy_Guy_Red"]

PS3 is down YoY for the 5th month in a row.

I meant in the US. :P

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="_SWAG_"]

when people say sales dont equal quality what do they mean about quality? re5 and halo wars are fun games and im pretty sure pokemon and mlb09 is fun for people thats why it sold well because people buy quality fun games. also people find quality in buying a wii, ds, and 360, because for those price points they have more quality than a more expensive console

_SWAG_

QUALITY = Game Critics and Reviews.

How else would one determine quality?

It's a generic question, so that's a generic response.

I'm talking generalities here. We can't play every game ever, but I can still see what great games I'm missing out on by checking the critics.

i know but there are some people out their that think the small sums being sold in japan will alow the ps3 to beat the 360 and even ketch up to the wii. i just wanted to point out the small difference japan makes these dayssurrealnumber5

Ah, okay, yes, that is true. I remember reading somewhere that MS was able to make up for all the sales PS3 outsold it by in Japan in 2008 in only one month (December) in the US.

[QUOTE="_SWAG_"][QUOTE="Episode_Eve"] I think it's that the relationship between the two factors are so commonly skewed, its mostly used as a rule of thumb.SolidTy

QUALITY = Game Critics and Reviews.

How else would one determine quality?

QUALITY = Game Critics and Reviews.SolidTy

[QUOTE="_SWAG_"][QUOTE="Episode_Eve"] I think it's that the relationship between the two factors are so commonly skewed, its mostly used as a rule of thumb.SolidTy

QUALITY = Game Critics and Reviews.

How else would one determine quality?