NPD: MARCH - Keep it here

I am talking about America since I do not have any numbers worldwide. Only NPD and Japan's numbers are good. I will not go by Sony's numbers since they use shipped numbers. I will let the people doing damage control talk about Sony's shipped numbers.rybe1025

Isn't Halo a bigger franchise then Killzone in NA though? I don't see what's so surprising about it selling more.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

You asked if Sony was lying about European Preorders, and using North American Sales numbers....but instead of explaining all that, I just wanted to explain how Preorders work, they are not 100% sale throughs.

Not even Halo 3 pulled off that. Gamestop had around a 60% preorder sell through on Halo 3 and that was awesome crazy numbers. :)

KZ2 has been out for a month and a few weeks. Many get confused, because it came out the last two days of Feb.

musicalmac

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

You asked if Sony was lying about European Preorders, and using North American Sales numbers....but instead of explaining all that, I just wanted to explain how Preorders work, they are not 100% sale throughs.

Not even Halo 3 pulled off that. Gamestop had around a 60% preorder sell through on Halo 3 and that was awesome crazy numbers. :)

KZ2 has been out for a month and a few weeks. Many get confused, because it came out the last two days of Feb.

musicalmac

Yeah, maybe...if KZ2 doesn't hit that 500,000 sales mark in Europe, then KZ2 is clearly is behind the norm, for sure. It has all year to sell, I hope Sony's efforts weren't in vain...It's a good game. So far it's a little over a month old and it's sold 1 million copies to date, despite the worlds econsomic crisis. So, we will see.

The PS3s AAA and AA software sales tell the true story of the PS3s sales figures,Sonys selling a respectable amount of Blu Ray players.I think this system as a game console is doing worse than the sales figures lead us to believe.Its this or playstation fans dont buy games.The gap between the 360 and PS3 is wider than it looks.

[quote="Squall18"]The 360 sold more than the PS3 and PS2 combined (330,000).SolidTy

WRONG.

TC : Why did you say that the 360 sold more than the PS3 and PS2 combined? That was untrue. I know you like to knock Sony in your threads, but at least be truthful.

112,000 + 218,000 = 330,000, RIGHT? How is 330,000 more than 330,000?

That statement was laced with pure biased opinion, and in this case it happened to be completely false.

If you want to slight Sony, that's fine, just do it correctly next time, since you are wrong.

Also, the Wii sold a little under the 360, PS3, and PS2 Combined!

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This is the 4th topic about this, but Good for RE5, I bought two copies...this data will be nice to add to the WORLDWIDE Numbers.

For those that Bash KZ2 numbers, remember, this is not counting FEB. KZ2 numbers, and this is only NA...in a worldwide economic crisis.

Sony just reported KZ2 hit PLATINUM, which is pretty good for a month, especially for a sequel based on a mediocre shooter. KZ2 will keep selling all year long.

Following the revelation that Killzone 2 became the fastest SCEA title on PS3 to reach 500K sold, Sony today revealed that the critically acclaimed first-person shooter from Guerilla Games has sold over one million copies worldwide. The company pointed to the game as another example of an "only on PlayStation experience," and noted that KZ2 will "continue to drive incentive for hardware sales throughout the year."Sony

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

You asked if Sony was lying about European Preorders, and using North American Sales numbers....but instead of explaining all that, I just wanted to explain how Preorders work, they are not 100% sale throughs.

Not even Halo 3 pulled off that. Gamestop had around a 60% preorder sell through on Halo 3 and that was awesome crazy numbers. :)

KZ2 has been out for a month and a few weeks. Many get confused, because it came out the last two days of Feb.

SolidTy

Yeah, maybe...if KZ2 doesn't hit that 500,000 sales mark in Europe, then KZ2 is clearly is behind the norm, for sure. It has all year to sell, I hope Sony's efforts weren't in vain...It's a good game. So far it's a little over a month old and it's sold 1 million copies to date, despite the worlds econsomic crisis. So, we will see.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[quote="Squall18"]The 360 sold more than the PS3 and PS2 combined (330,000).StealthKnife

WRONG.

TC : Why did you say that the 360 sold more than the PS3 and PS2 combined? That was untrue. I know you like to knock Sony in your threads, but at least be truthful.

112,000 + 218,000 = 330,000, RIGHT? How is 330,000 more than 330,000?

That statement was laced with pure biased opinion, and in this case it happened to be completely false.

If you want to slight Sony, that's fine, just do it correctly next time, since you are wrong.

Also, the Wii sold a little under the 360, PS3, and PS2 Combined!

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This is the 4th topic about this, but Good for RE5, I bought two copies...this data will be nice to add to the WORLDWIDE Numbers.

For those that Bash KZ2 numbers, remember, this is not counting FEB. KZ2 numbers, and this is only NA...in a worldwide economic crisis.

Sony just reported KZ2 hit PLATINUM, which is pretty good for a month, especially for a sequel based on a mediocre shooter. KZ2 will keep selling all year long.

Following the revelation that Killzone 2 became the fastest SCEA title on PS3 to reach 500K sold, Sony today revealed that the critically acclaimed first-person shooter from Guerilla Games has sold over one million copies worldwide. The company pointed to the game as another example of an "only on PlayStation experience," and noted that KZ2 will "continue to drive incentive for hardware sales throughout the year."Sony

What?

Different Link?

No, that quote is from that link, check it out.

RE: Killzone 2 sales. Scratch that last line in my previous post. I doubt it's going to happen. After doing a little more research-

- Killzone 2 sold 323,000 units in NA in February (in 2 days!)

- It sold 296,000 units in the entire month of March

If I had to make a prediction regarding the April NPD... I'd say we don't see Killzone 2 in the top 10 again.

:(

... ... Why didn't anyone buy GTA:CTW's... it's awesome...

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="musicalmac"] So that million was for just Europe?... That's not a good thing, my friend. That's worse. :?rofflecopter_

Yeah, maybe...if KZ2 doesn't hit that 500,000 sales mark in Europe, then KZ2 is clearly is behind the norm, for sure. It has all year to sell, I hope Sony's efforts weren't in vain...It's a good game. So far it's a little over a month old and it's sold 1 million copies to date, despite the worlds econsomic crisis. So, we will see.

Okay, that's fine...not like I care, I'm just trying to be accurate. Technically, the numbers a million, but even if we play your game, KZ2 sold 900,000 in a little over a month.

Sounds pretty good to me, KZ2 has all year to keep on keepin' on. Obviously a Holiday release would have been better, but Sony knows something we don't I guess.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="musicalmac"] So that million was for just Europe?... That's not a good thing, my friend. That's worse. :?rofflecopter_

Yeah, maybe...if KZ2 doesn't hit that 500,000 sales mark in Europe, then KZ2 is clearly is behind the norm, for sure. It has all year to sell, I hope Sony's efforts weren't in vain...It's a good game. So far it's a little over a month old and it's sold 1 million copies to date, despite the worlds econsomic crisis. So, we will see.

2) are all ps3 systems bundled with KZ2?

[QUOTE="rofflecopter_"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Yeah, maybe...if KZ2 doesn't hit that 500,000 sales mark in Europe, then KZ2 is clearly is behind the norm, for sure. It has all year to sell, I hope Sony's efforts weren't in vain...It's a good game. So far it's a little over a month old and it's sold 1 million copies to date, despite the worlds econsomic crisis. So, we will see.

SolidTy

Okay, that's fine...not like I care, I'm just trying to be accurate. Technically, the numbers a million, but even if we play your game, KZ2 sold 900,000 in a little over a month.

Sounds pretty good to me, KZ2 has all year to keep on keepin' on. Obviously a Holiday release would have been better, but Sony knows something we don't I guess.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]Okay, that's fine...not like I care, I'm just trying to be accurate. Technically, the numbers a million, but even if we play your game, KZ2 sold 900,000 in a little over a month.

Sounds pretty good to me, KZ2 has all year to keep on keepin' on. Obviously a Holiday release would have been better, but Sony knows something we don't I guess.

rofflecopter_

What's Sony supposed to do, not count KZ2's that were sold in bundles and wait another week to annoucne that they hit a million, but also they hit a million a week ago if they could have counted bundles?

There really isn't a large difference, there's a million people with KZ2 in there homes, which is the point, right? Sometime in the near future, KZ2 will have sold 1 million stand alones copies, it's all the same.

The game is setting up KZ3 to be a bigger success....like how Halo did for Halo 2, and GTA3 did for GTA Vice, or God of War did for God Of War II.

[QUOTE="rofflecopter_"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]Okay, that's fine...not like I care, I'm just trying to be accurate. Technically, the numbers a million, but even if we play your game, KZ2 sold 900,000 in a little over a month.

Sounds pretty good to me, KZ2 has all year to keep on keepin' on. Obviously a Holiday release would have been better, but Sony knows something we don't I guess.

What's Sony supposed to do, not count KZ2's that were sold in bundles and wait another week to annoucne that they hit a million, but also they hit a million a week ago if they could have counted bundles?

There really isn't a large difference, there's a million people with KZ2 in there homes, which is the point, right? Sometime in the near future, KZ2 will have sold 1 million stand alones copies, it's all the same.

The game is setting up KZ3 to be a bigger success....like how Halo did for Halo 2, and GTA3 did for GTA Vice, or God of War did for God Of War II.

rofflecopter_, your sig made me LOL. and it's a shame Killzone 2 isn't selling well, maybe next month?

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="rofflecopter_"]game? it most defently was bundled in europe and the charts in europe ALL include bundled sales, unlike NPD. you fell for sony's trap.

rofflecopter_

What's Sony supposed to do, not count KZ2's that were sold in bundles and wait another week to annoucne that they hit a million, but also they hit a million a week ago if they could have counted bundles?

There really isn't a large difference, there's a million people with KZ2 in there homes, which is the point, right? Sometime in the near future, KZ2 will have sold 1 million stand alones copies, it's all the same.

The game is setting up KZ3 to be a bigger success....like how Halo did for Halo 2, and GTA3 did for GTA Vice, or God of War did for God Of War II.

I'm not talking Halo, I am saying that KZ2 is setting up KZ3's sales, I used Halo, GTA, and God of War as a reference.

Forget examples, KZ3 is getting set up by KZ2's success today and all this year.

rofflecopter_, your sig made me LOL. and it's a shame Killzone 2 isn't selling well, maybe next month?

mitu123

It sold a Million in a month, that's pretty darn awesome in this recession, especially for a NON Holiday game.

It sold a Million in a month, that's pretty darn awesome in this recession, especially for a NON Holiday game.

SolidTy

[QUOTE="rofflecopter_"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

What's Sony supposed to do, not count KZ2's that were sold in bundles and wait another week to annoucne that they hit a million, but also they hit a million a week ago if they could have counted bundles?

There really isn't a large difference, there's a million people with KZ2 in there homes, which is the point, right? Sometime in the near future, KZ2 will have sold 1 million stand alones copies, it's all the same.

The game is setting up KZ3 to be a bigger success....like how Halo did for Halo 2, and GTA3 did for GTA Vice, or God of War did for God Of War II.

SolidTy

I'm not talking Halo, I am saying that KZ2 is setting up KZ3's sales, I used Halo, GTA, and God of War as a reference.

Forget examples, KZ3 is getting set up by KZ2's success today and all this year.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

It sold a Million in a month, that's pretty darn awesome in this recession, especially for a NON Holiday game.

musicalmac

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="rofflecopter_"]no you didnt. u did!!! it will never ...ever reach even close to what halo can sell in a HOUR...in its lifetime.rofflecopter_

I'm not talking Halo, I am saying that KZ2 is setting up KZ3's sales, I used Halo, GTA, and God of War as a reference.

Forget examples, KZ3 is getting set up by KZ2's success today and all this year.

is it just me, or are you refuting his statement with what you 'think' will happen in the future?

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

rofflecopter_, your sig made me LOL. and it's a shame Killzone 2 isn't selling well, maybe next month?

SolidTy

It sold a Million in a month, that's pretty darn awesome in this recession, especially for a NON Holiday game.

The PS3s AAA and AA software sales tell the true story of the PS3s sales figures,Sonys selling a respectable amount of Blu Ray players.I think this system as a game console is doing worse than the sales figures lead us to believe.Its this or playstation fans dont buy games.The gap between the 360 and PS3 is wider than it looks.

xgraderx

[QUOTE="xgraderx"]

The PS3s AAA and AA software sales tell the true story of the PS3s sales figures,Sonys selling a respectable amount of Blu Ray players.I think this system as a game console is doing worse than the sales figures lead us to believe.Its this or playstation fans dont buy games.The gap between the 360 and PS3 is wider than it looks.

-Reggaeton-

The PS3 needs a price cut. Bottom line.carljohnson3456

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

It sold a Million in a month, that's pretty darn awesome in this recession, especially for a NON Holiday game.

Giancar

...the first RE on a X-Box brand console.rybe1025

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]The PS3 needs a price cut. Bottom line.Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]The PS3 needs a price cut. Bottom line.Doolz2024

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Halo Wars did good...that game sucks WHY!!????? :cry: Stevo_the_gamer

.im just saying that games sucks donkey ass...jg4xchamp

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"].im just saying that games sucks donkey ass...Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="Doolz2024"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Sony can't afford that though. ;)Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]The PS3 needs a price cut. Bottom line.Doolz2024

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"].im just saying that games sucks donkey ass...Stevo_the_gamer

I don't understand how people "DON'T" think that sales are important.....At the production/developers point of view sales are the only testament of how "successful" a franchise is...It really is as simple as that....."Successful" means "profitability".......not how good the game is...The game is great but "if" the sales do not follow.....

Do you think guerrilla will get the same budget for KZ3?

Do you think that the game will stay exclusive?

Do yea think we will see another KZ in the next 3-4 years?..

Do you think we will see continued support for the game via DLC?

It can argued that KZ2 has been Sony's largest flagship title and promoted as such for years...Showcasing how powerful the console is.... If a "Flagship" FPS in the states falls flat. What perception do you think that gives developers for the PS3? Will it affect other genres? or games that are still in concept?

My examples are just the tip of the iceberg....It does matter to "gamers" as it will have a direct impact on "us" down the road if this game does/doesn't do well..

[QUOTE="Doolz2024"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Sony can't afford that though. ;)jg4xchamp

well they need to do something about the price of the ps3. $25, $50 less, anything to sell more consoles :PDoolz2024

[QUOTE="Giancar"] are you doubting him? good luck with that...Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Doolz2024"] If they can afford to drop the ps2 $30, I think they can afford to at least give a $50 price cut on the ps3Giancar