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#351 killerfist
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Jebus, only 296k for KZ2? Wel...thats respectable I guess, no where near the amount I thought though. :?
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#352 LosDaddie
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Jebus, only 296k for KZ2? Wel...thats respectable I guess, no where near the amount I thought though. :?killerfist

Definitely, definitely not the "system seller' cows hyped it to be

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#353 Lionheart08
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Well, there is no way to know if they are happy with those profits, maybe they expected far better

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And there's no way to tell they're not happy. :|

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#354 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Killzone 2 managed to sell more units within only few days time in February than the entire span of March?
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#355 killerfist
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[QUOTE="killerfist"]Jebus, only 296k for KZ2? Wel...thats respectable I guess, no where near the amount I thought though. :?LosDaddie

Definitely, definitely not the "system seller' cows hyped it to be

I kinda had almost twice the amount in mind myself.
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#356 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]Biggest disapointment is GTA:CW, no doubt. Only 90 000 is sad. If it had had the massive campaign of other GTAs...The_Game21x
Well I did my part. It's the best DS game in a while and it has the GTA name attached to it. I thought it would've been selling like hotcakes.

Me too. But, as it has been said before, DS games tend to sell for a VERY long time.

I'm pretty sure it will sell well.

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#357 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]Biggest disapointment is GTA:CW, no doubt. Only 90 000 is sad. If it had had the massive campaign of other GTAs...The_Game21x
Well I did my part. It's the best DS game in a while and it has the GTA name attached to it. I thought it would've been selling like hotcakes.

I guess when people think about GTA...they don't think about it being on a nintendo system :?
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#358 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="IronBass"]Biggest disapointment is GTA:CW, no doubt. Only 90 000 is sad. If it had had the massive campaign of other GTAs...Shinobishyguy
Well I did my part. It's the best DS game in a while and it has the GTA name attached to it. I thought it would've been selling like hotcakes.

I guess when people think about GTA...they don't think about it being on a nintendo system :?

Add to that the disaster the last GTA on a Nintendo handheld was.
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#359 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="killerfist"]Jebus, only 296k for KZ2? Wel...thats respectable I guess, no where near the amount I thought though. :?killerfist

Definitely, definitely not the "system seller' cows hyped it to be

I kinda had almost twice the amount in mind myself.

I dunno what I expected TBH.

I hate, hate to use SW as a gauge, but I guess I expected RE5-like sales for KZ2 because of the non-stop hype for it.

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#360 killerfist
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

I dunno what I expected TBH.

I hate, hate to use SW as a gauge, but I guess I expected RE5-like sales for KZ2 because of the non-stop hype for it.

SW should never be used as a gauge, period:P I thought it would sell alot because it's a shooter that lived up to it's expectations review wise. 296k is not bad at all, but yeah...idk..I expected way more.
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#361 obamanian
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[QUOTE="killerfist"]Jebus, only 296k for KZ2? Wel...thats respectable I guess, no where near the amount I thought though. :?LosDaddie

Definitely, definitely not the "system seller' cows hyped it to be

Actually was also hyped to be the end of all gaming, bring the end of 360, make PS3 sell 10x more than 360, be the end of all graphics (when in fact is one of the most limited visually games i have seen this generation, especially the textures and level sizes are laughable) etc etc

If only they supported those claims and opinions with actrually buying the game !!!!

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#362 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="killerfist"]Jebus, only 296k for KZ2? Wel...thats respectable I guess, no where near the amount I thought though. :?obamanian

Definitely, definitely not the "system seller' cows hyped it to be

Actually was also hyped to be the end of all gaming, bring the end of 360, make PS3 sell 10x more than 360, be the end of all graphics (when in fact is one of the most limited visually games i have seen this generation, especially the textures and level sizes are laughable) etc etc

If only they supported those claims and opinions with actrually buying the game !!!!

Link or it didnt happen
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#363 Giancar
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

[QUOTE="killerfist"]Jebus, only 296k for KZ2? Wel...thats respectable I guess, no where near the amount I thought though. :?obamanian

Definitely, definitely not the "system seller' cows hyped it to be

Actually was also hyped to be the end of all gaming, bring the end of 360, make PS3 sell 10x more than 360, be the end of all graphics (when in fact is one of the most limited visually games i have seen this generation, especially the textures and level sizes are laughable) etc etc

If only they supported those claims and opinions with actrually buying the game !!!!

hyped from who? fanboys fakeboys? heck at least the game wasn't hyped from devs like a true revolution like Peter with Fable games (that didn't revolutionized anything) :lol:
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#364 fabz_95
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The Wii's dominance sale-wise is amazing. It's also impressive that the sales of the 360 equal the sales of the PS3 and the PS2 put together. Resi 5's sales are great, although not surprising.

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#365 Keltoid
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Wow POS3 is such a failure... Cows: "buh bu buh KILLZONE 2 is a system seller :?"

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Oh, so uh... you wouldnt want to play Killzone 2 on the 360?
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#366 ogvampire
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I have a question for every one in this thread and I know i'll get alot of fanboy answers. I admit I thought KZ2 would sell more, and I undoubtedly accept that I am wrong. But Since when does sales of a game control quality?

Animal-Mother

not sure who is trying to draw that comparison, but this is a sales thread....

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#367 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="IronBass"]Biggest disapointment is GTA:CW, no doubt. Only 90 000 is sad. If it had had the massive campaign of other GTAs...LosDaddie

Well I did my part. It's the best DS game in a whileand it has the GTA name attached to it. I thought it would've been selling like hotcakes.

That good, huh?

I want to buy GTA CW, but I rarely play my DS Lite.

Yeah I rarely play my DS Lite as well but this game changed that. I haven't had a chance to try out the MP yet but the SP so far is fun. The old-school isometric viewpoint is a little off putting after playing (and loving) GTA IV on the 360 but it works well enough to not be a huge annoyance. Once you get used to it, it's pretty fun.
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#368 obamanian
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

Actually was also hyped to be the end of all gaming, bring the end of 360, make PS3 sell 10x more than 360, be the end of all graphics (when in fact is one of the most limited visually games i have seen this generation, especially the textures and level sizes are laughable) etc etc

If only they supported those claims and opinions with actrually buying the game !!!!

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Link or it didnt happen

You mean the 10.000 posts like " KZ2 will own", "KZ2 is the best thing", "KZ2 is the best looking console title" or even "KZ2 looks better than Crysis" !!!!

... don't exist ?

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#369 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="obamanian"]

Actually was also hyped to be the end of all gaming, bring the end of 360, make PS3 sell 10x more than 360, be the end of all graphics (when in fact is one of the most limited visually games i have seen this generation, especially the textures and level sizes are laughable) etc etc

If only they supported those claims and opinions with actrually buying the game !!!!

obamanian

Link or it didnt happen

You mean the 10.000 posts like " KZ2 will own", "KZ2 is the best thing", "KZ2 is the best looking console title" or even "KZ2 looks better than Crysis" !!!!

... don't exist ?

And Killzone 2 lived upto it's hype. But you never seem to answer my question of how quantity determines quality also Like your constant hounding of how bad killzone 2 looks, Killzone 2 is great, and I respect your opinion of not liking it but your taking it to the level of blind fanboy. Fable looking better than Killzone 2, it's just a way for you to give fable the attention it doesn't deserve. I have a question if you wanted to hound Killzone 2 so much compare it to crysis not Fable two, because your argument is totally off by the ridiculous amount of difference between RPG and FPS genres

and Remember Killzone 2 lived upto it's hype. Remember all those botched promises by big mouth peter? Sorry your game didnt get completed when it released

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#370 rofflecopter_
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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="obamanian"]

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

Definitely, definitely not the "system seller' cows hyped it to be

Actually was also hyped to be the end of all gaming, bring the end of 360, make PS3 sell 10x more than 360, be the end of all graphics (when in fact is one of the most limited visually games i have seen this generation, especially the textures and level sizes are laughable) etc etc

If only they supported those claims and opinions with actrually buying the game !!!!

hyped from who? fanboys fakeboys? heck at least the game wasn't hyped from devs like a true revolution like Peter with Fable games (that didn't revolutionized anything) :lol:

fable 2 is a amazing game.
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#371 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="obamanian"]

Actually was also hyped to be the end of all gaming, bring the end of 360, make PS3 sell 10x more than 360, be the end of all graphics (when in fact is one of the most limited visually games i have seen this generation, especially the textures and level sizes are laughable) etc etc

If only they supported those claims and opinions with actrually buying the game !!!!

obamanian

Link or it didnt happen

You mean the 10.000 posts like " KZ2 will own", "KZ2 is the best thing", "KZ2 is the best looking console title" or even "KZ2 looks better than Crysis" !!!!

... don't exist ?

yet you have hyped all those years Fable 2 like the best thing since slide bread and: 1) it flopped 2) didn't kill the competition either
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#372 obamanian
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

You mean the 10.000 posts like " KZ2 will own", "KZ2 is the best thing", "KZ2 is the best looking console title" or even "KZ2 looks better than Crysis" !!!!

... don't exist ?

Animal-Mother

And Killzone 2 lived upto it's hype. But you never seem to answer my question of how quantity determines quality also Like your constant hounding of how bad killzone 2 looks, Killzone 2 is great, and I respect your opinion of not liking it but your taking it to the level of blind fanboy. Fable looking better than Killzone 2, it's just a way for you to give fable the attention it doesn't deserve. I have a question if you wanted to hound Killzone 2 so much compare it to crysis not Fable two, because your argument is totally off by the ridiculous amount of difference between RPG and FPS genres

and Remember Killzone 2 lived upto it's hype. Remember all those botched promises by big mouth peter? Sorry your game didnt get completed when it released

Crysis - huge scale, detail (forests)- dynamic volumetric lighting

Fable 2 - big scale, detail (forests) - dynamic volumetric lighting

Killzone 2 -small scale, not anything likeforests - not dynamic faked volumetric lighting

Now, in your opinion, why would i compare KZ2 to Crysis, when Fable 2 is 100x closer to Crysis specs ???????????????

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#373 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="obamanian"]

You mean the 10.000 posts like " KZ2 will own", "KZ2 is the best thing", "KZ2 is the best looking console title" or even "KZ2 looks better than Crysis" !!!!

... don't exist ?

obamanian

And Killzone 2 lived upto it's hype. But you never seem to answer my question of how quantity determines quality also Like your constant hounding of how bad killzone 2 looks, Killzone 2 is great, and I respect your opinion of not liking it but your taking it to the level of blind fanboy. Fable looking better than Killzone 2, it's just a way for you to give fable the attention it doesn't deserve. I have a question if you wanted to hound Killzone 2 so much compare it to crysis not Fable two, because your argument is totally off by the ridiculous amount of difference between RPG and FPS genres

and Remember Killzone 2 lived upto it's hype. Remember all those botched promises by big mouth peter? Sorry your game didnt get completed when it released

Crysis - huge scale, detail (forests)- dynamic volumetric lighting

Fable 2 - big scale, detail (forests) - dynamic volumetric lighting

Killzone 2 -small scale, not anything likeforests - not dynamic faked volumetric lighting

Now, in your opinion, why would i compare KZ2 to Crysis, when Fable 2 is 100x closer to Crysis specs ???????????????

No, because Crysis is an FPS you know what a point of view is. Didnt Fable flop. Wasn't I supposed to go into other peoples worlds and make them burn. Wasn't I supposed to do ANYTHING? Then why compare Killzone to fable when it's closer to crysis? Why pick on Killzone 2 and not compare it to lets say halo or left 4 dead? Or anything else. Your comparing Candy and Meat as always. Two completely different things that have absolutely NO correlation with each other
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#374 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="VideoGameRosado"][QUOTE="rofflecopter_"][QUOTE="VideoGameRosado"] [QUOTE="VideoGameRosado"]

Why do sales matter when it comes to 360 vs ps3 but they don't matter when wii is added to the equation?

*sigh* fanboys.

a "true" gamer doesn't care about sales. True gamers play games. Not sales. If sales mattered, Wii is the greatest system to ever grace the gaming community. Toyota Camery owns Ferrari. And Halo is the greatest FPS ever.

This whole "sales war" we got going on here is pathetic. Seriously.

but halo is the greatest

Halo is great. Not greatest.

yep SMG is and it is a wii game, i guess that is why toyota camerys own ferraris
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#375 obamanian
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yet you have hyped all those years Fable 2 like the best thing since slide bread and: 1) it flopped 2) didn't kill the competition eitherGiancar

1.

Fable 2 flopped with 2.7 million sales and 30+ AAAA reviews, 80+ AAA reviews ??????

Sure thing, how about the FACT that is the most successfull WRPGon 360? And with the most GOTY nominations too (Joystiq, X-Play, G4Tv, BAFTA and 20+ other nominations and awards)

2.It never had a competition to start with, there is nothing like it on PS3 or Wii, and never will be

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#376 Giancar
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Now, in your opinion, why would i compare KZ2 to Crysis, when Fable 2 is 100x closer to Crysis specs ???????????????obamanian
According exactly to who? Because 90% of the gaiming press states that KZ2 is the best console graphics game right now... and how much graphics awards got fable 2 last year?
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#377 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Giancar"] yet you have hyped all those years Fable 2 like the best thing since slide bread and: 1) it flopped 2) didn't kill the competition eitherobamanian

1.

Fable 2 flopped with 2.7 million sales and 30+ AAAA reviews, 80+ AAA reviews ??????

Sure thing, how about the FACT that is the most successfull WRPGon 360? And with the most GOTY nominations too (Joystiq, X-Play, G4Tv, BAFTA and 20+ other nominations and awards)

2.It never had a competition to start with, there is nothing like it on PS3 or Wii, and never will be

Show us these 30+AAAA reviews, and their all from credible sites right? Ohh and Fable was hyped 9.5 wasnt it or 9.0 It got an 8.5 here right? On Gamespot where we post, where it matters the most.
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]Now, in your opinion, why would i compare KZ2 to Crysis, when Fable 2 is 100x closer to Crysis specs ???????????????Giancar
According exactly to who? Because 90% of the gaiming press states that KZ2 is the best console graphics game right now... and how much graphics awards got fable 2 last year?

And how many of those same "gaming press sites" gave the best graphics award to Crysis Warhead last year?

Note: Not defending the Xbox 360 fan, just trying to show that usin gaming press sites as evidence to prove game x is graphically superior is a horrible way to make a point considering the vast majority of sites said MGS4, Gears of War 2 ect. had the "bets graphics" over Crysis Warhead. Not very credible. At all.

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#379 obamanian
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No, because Crysis is an FPS you know what a point of view is. Didnt Fable flop. Wasn't I supposed to go into other peoples worlds and make them burn. Wasn't I supposed to do ANYTHING? Then why compare Killzone to fable when it's closer to crysis? Why pick on Killzone 2 and not compare it to lets say halo or left 4 dead? Or anything else. Your comparing Candy and Meat as always. Two completely different things that have absolutely NO correlation with each otherAnimal-Mother

Simple, i never compare something first, i only answer to posts that suggest KZ2 is the best looking console title

When someone posts that, he means better than ALL (including Fable 2 of course) games, so as you can see PS3 people here compare KZ2 to Fable 2 in 10.000 threads so far, that talk about KZ2 "superiority" over all things on any console, again including Fable 2

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#380 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Link or it didnt happenAnimal-Mother

You mean the 10.000 posts like " KZ2 will own", "KZ2 is the best thing", "KZ2 is the best looking console title" or even "KZ2 looks better than Crysis" !!!!

... don't exist ?

And Killzone 2 lived upto it's hype. But you never seem to answer my question of how quantity determines quality also Like your constant hounding of how bad killzone 2 looks, Killzone 2 is great, and I respect your opinion of not liking it but your taking it to the level of blind fanboy. Fable looking better than Killzone 2, it's just a way for you to give fable the attention it doesn't deserve. I have a question if you wanted to hound Killzone 2 so much compare it to crysis not Fable two, because your argument is totally off by the ridiculous amount of difference between RPG and FPS genres

and Remember Killzone 2 lived upto it's hype. Remember all those botched promises by big mouth peter? Sorry your game didnt get completed when it released

if killzone 2 continues to sell like crap that would mean it has not word to moouth endorsements, so people who buy the game think it sucks or is not worth sharing. the market deems what is good or bad, not reviewers and not you (out side of the level that you effect the market with your purchases )

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#381 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Giancar"] yet you have hyped all those years Fable 2 like the best thing since slide bread and: 1) it flopped 2) didn't kill the competition eitherobamanian

1.

Fable 2 flopped with 2.7 million sales and 30+ AAAA reviews, 80+ AAA reviews ??????

Sure thing, how about the FACT that is the most successfull WRPGon 360? And with the most GOTY nominations too (Joystiq, X-Play, G4Tv, BAFTA and 20+ other nominations and awards)

2.It never had a competition to start with, there is nothing like it on PS3 or Wii, and never will be

seems like you forgot about FO3, Oblivion and Mass Effect all those games got better sales, reviews and awards (like FO3, not I said awards not nominations) all those can be foun in other systems
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#383 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] No, because Crysis is an FPS you know what a point of view is. Didnt Fable flop. Wasn't I supposed to go into other peoples worlds and make them burn. Wasn't I supposed to do ANYTHING? Then why compare Killzone to fable when it's closer to crysis? Why pick on Killzone 2 and not compare it to lets say halo or left 4 dead? Or anything else. Your comparing Candy and Meat as always. Two completely different things that have absolutely NO correlation with each otherobamanian

Simple, i never compare something first, i only answer to posts that suggest KZ2 is the best looking console title

When someone posts that, he means better than ALL (including Fable 2 of course) games, so as you can see PS3 people here compare KZ2 to Fable 2 in 10.000 threads so far, that talk about KZ2 "superiority" over all things on any console, again including Fable 2

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26846253 If you only answer to post then whats this you created? You created the thread right?

I have not seen a single big level in KZ2, and the lighting is not anywhere as dynamic as Fable 2 dynamic shadowed light beams

Maybe i missed a secret level in the game that rivals Fable 2 visually ? I played to the end boss, and found none

obamanian

you instated the thread. You constantly go on about killzone 2 did it eat your babies?

Edit and link me to these 10,0000 thread that Cows say KZ2 is better looking than fable 2

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#384 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

Definitely, definitely not the "system seller' cows hyped it to be

Animal-Mother

Actually was also hyped to be the end of all gaming, bring the end of 360, make PS3 sell 10x more than 360, be the end of all graphics (when in fact is one of the most limited visually games i have seen this generation, especially the textures and level sizes are laughable) etc etc

If only they supported those claims and opinions with actrually buying the game !!!!

Link or it didnt happen

Stop it.

You're around SW enough to know that KZ2 washyped to hell & back. I'm not taking obamanian's side, but to deny KZ2 has hyped like crazy is just being dishonest.....and you know it.

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#385 Mr_Apple_Soup
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Do you consider a site full of advertisements of a product credible when it gives a score ?

Anyway, here

PC World10/10
Eurogamer10/10
1UP10/10

obamanian

you realize none of those sites, except these three, contain any sort of credibility?

i mean yahoo games? FHM? seriously?

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/fable2

and look at that, only AA and its got a 6.1 user score

people loved that game!

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#386 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]Show us these 30+AAAA reviews, and their all from credible sites right? Ohh and Fable was hyped 9.5 wasnt it or 9.0 It got an 8.5 here right? On Gamespot where we post, where it matters the most.obamanian

Do you consider a site full of advertisements of a product credible when it gives a score ?

Anyway, here

PC World10/10
Snappy Gamer 10/10-Who are these guys? I will bold them and why should we care about people that blog about how good fable is.
G4TV/X-Play10/10
Eurogamer10/10
1UP10/10
LEVEL (Czech)10/10
Guardian Game 10/10
TrustedReviews10/10

FHM10/10
Yahoo Games10/10
Maxim10/10
Tweaktown10/10
Digital Spy10/10
onPause10/10
GCO10/10
Telegraph.UK 10/10
Xboxlife (den) 10/10
Aeropause10/10
Uber-Gam3r10/10
Subdogs.se10/10
fz.se10/10
Times Online 10/10
Reviews-results10/10
TAGS10/10
GreenPixels 10/10
PopMatters10/10
El33t Online10/10
TechTree10/10
GamesOnSmash9.9/10
Impulsegamer9.9/10
Variety 9.8/10
Vig-Reloaded9.8/10
Gamers Hub9.8/10
ZTGD9.8/10

34 AAAA scores

And more AAA-AAAA ones

Tech-GamingA/A+
JPP A/A+
Gaming AgeA/A+
Konzolista.cz A/A+
8Bit Joystick 9.7/10
RPGSite9.6/10
GamingHeaven9.6/10
Console Monster9.6/10
360Emagazine9.6/10
Brutal Gamer9.6/10
Gameplayer9.5/10
OXM Online9.5/10
IGN UK 9.5/10
PlanetXbox3609.5/10
MEGamers 9.5/10
GameZone 9.5/10
WonderwallWeb 9.5/10
Team Teabag9.5/10
XBLA9.5/10
iTWire9.5/10
AtomicGamer9.5/10
Ripten9.5/10
Xbox Gaming9.5/10
Game Chronicles9.5/10
gearheadsofwar9.5/10
pcworld.ca9.5/10
NeoseekerA
SplegendsA
Zimbio9.5/10
Review Busters9.5/10


AA-AAA

Xbox360Achievements.org 9.4/10
ActiveXbox9.4/10
Games Master UK9.4/10
Gameinformer9.3/10
UK Spotlight9.3/10
Game Focus9.3/10
Evilgamerz9.3/10
Platformnation9.3/10
Bonusballed9.3/10
CVG9.2/10
IGN AU9.2/10
Gamers.at 9.2/10
The gamers cafe9.2/10
GamingTrend9.2/10
Paragamer9.2/10
GameplayMonthly B+/A+
A.V. ClubB+/A+
Game Revolution B+/A+
GameShark 9.1/10
3DJuegos9.1/10
AusGamers9.1/10
RPGfun9.1/10
Videogames NZ9.1/10
4119.1/10

.

I am sure you will now try to discredit all those sites ones by one, good luck

Yeah I did. We use gamespot here buddy, It flopped I dont care how it did anywhere else

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#387 obamanian
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

Do you consider a site full of advertisements of a product credible when it gives a score ?

Anyway, here

PC World10/10
Eurogamer10/10
1UP10/10

Mr_Apple_Soup

you realize none of those sites, except these three, contain any sort of credibility?

i mean yahoo games? FHM? seriously?

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/fable2

and look at that, only AA and its got a 6.1 user score

people loved that game!

Yes, i am sure all people's reviews and opinions are worthless ... when a 360 game is involved

Sorry, that is only for fanboys, BTW i consider independent reviews far more credible than paid sites ones

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#388 obamanian
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]Show us these 30+AAAA reviews, and their all from credible sites right? Ohh and Fable was hyped 9.5 wasnt it or 9.0 It got an 8.5 here right? On Gamespot where we post, where it matters the most.Animal-Mother

Do you consider a site full of advertisements of a product credible when it gives a score ?

Anyway, here

PC World10/10
Snappy Gamer 10/10-Who are these guys? I will bold them and why should we care about people that blog about how good fable is.
G4TV/X-Play10/10
Eurogamer10/10
1UP10/10
LEVEL (Czech)10/10
Guardian Game 10/10
TrustedReviews10/10

FHM10/10
Yahoo Games10/10
Maxim10/10
Tweaktown10/10
Digital Spy10/10
onPause10/10
GCO10/10
Telegraph.UK 10/10
Xboxlife (den) 10/10
Aeropause10/10
Uber-Gam3r10/10
Subdogs.se10/10
fz.se10/10
Times Online 10/10
Reviews-results10/10
TAGS10/10
GreenPixels 10/10
PopMatters10/10
El33t Online10/10
TechTree10/10
GamesOnSmash9.9/10
Impulsegamer9.9/10
Variety 9.8/10
Vig-Reloaded9.8/10
Gamers Hub9.8/10
ZTGD9.8/10

34 AAAA scores

And more AAA-AAAA ones

Tech-GamingA/A+
JPP A/A+
Gaming AgeA/A+
Konzolista.cz A/A+
8Bit Joystick 9.7/10
RPGSite9.6/10
GamingHeaven9.6/10
Console Monster9.6/10
360Emagazine9.6/10
Brutal Gamer9.6/10
Gameplayer9.5/10
OXM Online9.5/10
IGN UK 9.5/10
PlanetXbox3609.5/10
MEGamers 9.5/10
GameZone 9.5/10
WonderwallWeb 9.5/10
Team Teabag9.5/10
XBLA9.5/10
iTWire9.5/10
AtomicGamer9.5/10
Ripten9.5/10
Xbox Gaming9.5/10
Game Chronicles9.5/10
gearheadsofwar9.5/10
pcworld.ca9.5/10
NeoseekerA
SplegendsA
Zimbio9.5/10
Review Busters9.5/10


AA-AAA

Xbox360Achievements.org 9.4/10
ActiveXbox9.4/10
Games Master UK9.4/10
Gameinformer9.3/10
UK Spotlight9.3/10
Game Focus9.3/10
Evilgamerz9.3/10
Platformnation9.3/10
Bonusballed9.3/10
CVG9.2/10
IGN AU9.2/10
Gamers.at 9.2/10
The gamers cafe9.2/10
GamingTrend9.2/10
Paragamer9.2/10
GameplayMonthly B+/A+
A.V. ClubB+/A+
Game Revolution B+/A+
GameShark 9.1/10
3DJuegos9.1/10
AusGamers9.1/10
RPGfun9.1/10
Videogames NZ9.1/10
4119.1/10

.

I am sure you will now try to discredit all those sites ones by one, good luck

Yeah I did. We use gamespot here buddy, It flopped I dont care how it did anywhere else

Nope, gamespot flopped, like it did with Mass Effect too, they just give the best games low and the worst games high, that is standard for gamespot

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#389 Animal-Mother
Member since 2003 • 27362 Posts

[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

[QUOTE="obamanian"]

Do you consider a site full of advertisements of a product credible when it gives a score ?

Anyway, here

PC World10/10
Eurogamer10/10
1UP10/10

obamanian

you realize none of those sites, except these three, contain any sort of credibility?

i mean yahoo games? FHM? seriously?

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/fable2

and look at that, only AA and its got a 6.1 user score

people loved that game!

Yes, i am sure all people's reviews and opinions are worthless ... when a 360 game is involved

Sorry, that is only for fanboys, BTW i consider independent reviews far more credible than paid sites ones

Ok so then why are you here? I mean fable 2 flopped I enjoyed it was a good flop. I mean but those site hold no credibility here sorry buddy.

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#390 Mr_Apple_Soup
Member since 2006 • 3580 Posts

[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

[QUOTE="obamanian"]

Do you consider a site full of advertisements of a product credible when it gives a score ?

Anyway, here

PC World10/10
Eurogamer10/10
1UP10/10

obamanian

you realize none of those sites, except these three, contain any sort of credibility?

i mean yahoo games? FHM? seriously?

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/fable2

and look at that, only AA and its got a 6.1 user score

people loved that game!

Yes, i am sure all people's reviews and opinions are worthless ... when a 360 game is involved

Sorry, that is only for fanboys, BTW i consider independent reviews far more credible than paid sites ones

oh yeah, because when i want to buy a game the first site i check is maxim.com...

fable flopped on gamestop AND on metacritic

but basically youre saying that random blogs are more credible then paid reviewers...:?

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#391 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Ok so then why are you here?Animal-Mother
For the community, perhaps? That's the main reason a lot of us are still here -- including me.
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#392 mitu123
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="obamanian"]

Do you consider a site full of advertisements of a product credible when it gives a score ?

Anyway, here

PC World10/10
Snappy Gamer 10/10-Who are these guys? I will bold them and why should we care about people that blog about how good fable is.
G4TV/X-Play10/10
Eurogamer10/10
1UP10/10
LEVEL (Czech)10/10
Guardian Game 10/10
TrustedReviews10/10

FHM10/10
Yahoo Games10/10
Maxim10/10
Tweaktown10/10
Digital Spy10/10
onPause10/10
GCO10/10
Telegraph.UK 10/10
Xboxlife (den) 10/10
Aeropause10/10
Uber-Gam3r10/10
Subdogs.se10/10
fz.se10/10
Times Online 10/10
Reviews-results10/10
TAGS10/10
GreenPixels 10/10
PopMatters10/10
El33t Online10/10
TechTree10/10
GamesOnSmash9.9/10
Impulsegamer9.9/10
Variety 9.8/10
Vig-Reloaded9.8/10
Gamers Hub9.8/10
ZTGD9.8/10

34 AAAA scores

And more AAA-AAAA ones

Tech-GamingA/A+
JPP A/A+
Gaming AgeA/A+
Konzolista.cz A/A+
8Bit Joystick 9.7/10
RPGSite9.6/10
GamingHeaven9.6/10
Console Monster9.6/10
360Emagazine9.6/10
Brutal Gamer9.6/10
Gameplayer9.5/10
OXM Online9.5/10
IGN UK 9.5/10
PlanetXbox3609.5/10
MEGamers 9.5/10
GameZone 9.5/10
WonderwallWeb 9.5/10
Team Teabag9.5/10
XBLA9.5/10
iTWire9.5/10
AtomicGamer9.5/10
Ripten9.5/10
Xbox Gaming9.5/10
Game Chronicles9.5/10
gearheadsofwar9.5/10
pcworld.ca9.5/10
NeoseekerA
SplegendsA
Zimbio9.5/10
Review Busters9.5/10


AA-AAA

Xbox360Achievements.org 9.4/10
ActiveXbox9.4/10
Games Master UK9.4/10
Gameinformer9.3/10
UK Spotlight9.3/10
Game Focus9.3/10
Evilgamerz9.3/10
Platformnation9.3/10
Bonusballed9.3/10
CVG9.2/10
IGN AU9.2/10
Gamers.at 9.2/10
The gamers cafe9.2/10
GamingTrend9.2/10
Paragamer9.2/10
GameplayMonthly B+/A+
A.V. ClubB+/A+
Game Revolution B+/A+
GameShark 9.1/10
3DJuegos9.1/10
AusGamers9.1/10
RPGfun9.1/10
Videogames NZ9.1/10
4119.1/10

.

I am sure you will now try to discredit all those sites ones by one, good luck

obamanian

Yeah I did. We use gamespot here buddy, It flopped I dont care how it did anywhere else

Nope, gamespot flopped, like it did with Mass Effect too, they just give the best games low and the worst games high, that is standard for gamespot

In some ways, that's kind of true, although I don't bash Gamespot, I have to live with it.

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#393 obamanian
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oh yeah, because when i want to buy a game the first site i check is maxim.com...

fable flopped on gamestop AND on metacritic

but basically youre saying that random blogs are more credible then paid reviewers...:?

Mr_Apple_Soup

Nope, each of those is a perfectly valid, 100% counting review

Every review is an opinion afterall, why are some better than others ? Because that serves your purpose ?

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#394 LosDaddie
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[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

I dunno what I expected TBH.

I hate, hate to use SW as a gauge, but I guess I expected RE5-like sales for KZ2 because of the non-stop hype for it.

killerfist

SW should never be used as a gauge, period:P I thought it would sell alot because it's a shooter that lived up to it's expectations review wise. 296k is not bad at all, but yeah...idk..I expected way more.

I guess I expected at least 1M sales in the US alone.

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#395 Animal-Mother
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I am sure you will now try to discredit all those sites ones by one, good luck

obamanian

Yeah I did. We use gamespot here buddy, It flopped I dont care how it did anywhere else

Nope, gamespot flopped, like it did with Mass Effect too, they just give the best games low and the worst games high, that is standard for gamespot

Yeah and they got the scores the deserved., Fable 2 flopped. It was Hyped AAA

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#396 obamanian
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

Nope, gamespot flopped, like it did with Mass Effect too, they just give the best games low and the worst games high, that is standard for gamespot

mitu123

In some ways, that's kind of true, although I don't bash Gamespot, I have to live with it.

I don't bash Gamespot, just saying. After all every PAID site gives huge scores to hyped games (read Halo 3, Gears, KZ, MGS4) and even the slightest problem brings 100x better and depper and more huge games scores down by 2-3/10, while any problem of the big name games is totally overlooked

Keep your fans and supporters happy is what happens

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#397 Mr_Apple_Soup
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[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

oh yeah, because when i want to buy a game the first site i check is maxim.com...

fable flopped on gamestop AND on metacritic

but basically youre saying that random blogs are more credible then paid reviewers...:?

obamanian

Nope, each of those is a perfectly valid, 100% counting review

Every review is an opinion afterall, why are some better than others ? Because that serves your purpose ?

it doesnt make the opinion better, it makes it more credible. it would make sense to trust someone who plays video games for a living then some random guy who plays casualy and will potentially over or underrate the game for a stupid reason.

im not going to trusts halofan123 11/10 review of halo 4 or yahoo games 9.8 rating of CoD6 over gamestop or ign's review of it. if fable 2 got a 9 here and a 9 across the boards at other paid reviewing sites, but 6s on blogs and random magizines, you wouldnt be posting the 6s right now, so lets not talk about better serving a purpose

im not saying fable was a bad game, im just saying it flopped here and that when all the reviews for it were polled on meta, it still flopped

AA = great, just for the record...

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#398 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="obamanian"]

Nope, gamespot flopped, like it did with Mass Effect too, they just give the best games low and the worst games high, that is standard for gamespot

obamanian

In some ways, that's kind of true, although I don't bash Gamespot, I have to live with it.

I don't bash Gamespot, just saying. After all every PAID site gives huge scores to hyped games (read Halo 3, Gears, KZ, MGS4) and even the slightest problem brings 100x better and depper and more huge games scores down by 2-3/10, while any problem of the big name games is totally overlooked

Keep your fans and supporters happy is what happens

Wait if they gave huge scores to byped games why didnt fable 2 achieve AAA
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#399 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="obamanian"]

Nope, gamespot flopped, like it did with Mass Effect too, they just give the best games low and the worst games high, that is standard for gamespot

obamanian

In some ways, that's kind of true, although I don't bash Gamespot, I have to live with it.

I don't bash Gamespot, just saying. After all every PAID site gives huge scores to hyped games (read Halo 3, Gears, KZ, MGS4) and even the slightest problem brings 100x better and depper and more huge games scores down by 2-3/10, while any problem of the big name games is totally overlooked

Keep your fans and supporters happy is what happens

Yeah, I know, my bad if I came out wrong.
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[QUOTE="obamanian"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]Show us these 30+AAAA reviews, and their all from credible sites right? Ohh and Fable was hyped 9.5 wasnt it or 9.0 It got an 8.5 here right? On Gamespot where we post, where it matters the most.Animal-Mother

Do you consider a site full of advertisements of a product credible when it gives a score ?

Anyway, here

PC World10/10
Snappy Gamer 10/10-Who are these guys? I will bold them and why should we care about people that blog about how good fable is.
G4TV/X-Play10/10
Eurogamer10/10
1UP10/10
LEVEL (Czech)10/10
Guardian Game 10/10
TrustedReviews10/10

FHM10/10
Yahoo Games10/10
Maxim10/10
Tweaktown10/10
Digital Spy10/10
onPause10/10
GCO10/10
Telegraph.UK 10/10
Xboxlife (den) 10/10
Aeropause10/10
Uber-Gam3r10/10
Subdogs.se10/10
fz.se10/10
Times Online 10/10
Reviews-results10/10
TAGS10/10
GreenPixels 10/10
PopMatters10/10
El33t Online10/10
TechTree10/10
GamesOnSmash9.9/10
Impulsegamer9.9/10
Variety 9.8/10
Vig-Reloaded9.8/10
Gamers Hub9.8/10
ZTGD9.8/10

34 AAAA scores

And more AAA-AAAA ones

Tech-GamingA/A+
JPP A/A+
Gaming AgeA/A+
Konzolista.cz A/A+
8Bit Joystick 9.7/10
RPGSite9.6/10
GamingHeaven9.6/10
Console Monster9.6/10
360Emagazine9.6/10
Brutal Gamer9.6/10
Gameplayer9.5/10
OXM Online9.5/10
IGN UK 9.5/10
PlanetXbox3609.5/10
MEGamers 9.5/10
GameZone 9.5/10
WonderwallWeb 9.5/10
Team Teabag9.5/10
XBLA9.5/10
iTWire9.5/10
AtomicGamer9.5/10
Ripten9.5/10
Xbox Gaming9.5/10
Game Chronicles9.5/10
gearheadsofwar9.5/10
pcworld.ca9.5/10
NeoseekerA
SplegendsA
Zimbio9.5/10
Review Busters9.5/10


AA-AAA

Xbox360Achievements.org 9.4/10
ActiveXbox9.4/10
Games Master UK9.4/10
Gameinformer9.3/10
UK Spotlight9.3/10
Game Focus9.3/10
Evilgamerz9.3/10
Platformnation9.3/10
Bonusballed9.3/10
CVG9.2/10
IGN AU9.2/10
Gamers.at 9.2/10
The gamers cafe9.2/10
GamingTrend9.2/10
Paragamer9.2/10
GameplayMonthly B+/A+
A.V. ClubB+/A+
Game Revolution B+/A+
GameShark 9.1/10
3DJuegos9.1/10
AusGamers9.1/10
RPGfun9.1/10
Videogames NZ9.1/10
4119.1/10

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I am sure you will now try to discredit all those sites ones by one, good luck

Yeah I did. We use gamespot here buddy, It flopped I dont care how it did anywhere else

So you ask to see those 9.0+ sites to try and prove him wrong but when showed them all the best you have in response is....bu..but this GS so they do not matter. So why did you even ask?? You could at least admit he was right.

Face it Fable scored great and KZ2 will probably never get the sales Fable got.