NPD numbers are in for July 09

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#51 3rdbass
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[QUOTE="george999819"]

The 360 has now officially outsold the PS3 for ONE YEAR and 12 NPDs straight, and it doesn't look like it will stop any time soon. It has also outsold the PS3 worldwide for 11 months straight now.

gago-gago

That's pretty crazy but not surprising. And analyst don't expect price cuts to help hardware sales too. http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/13/analyst-dont-expect-price-cuts-to-help-hardware-sales/

Well I don't exactly believe in what he is saying. A $100 PS3 cut with introduction of Slimmodelwould be huge for Sony as it would at least get itself in the same ball park as the WII and the XBOX and I feel is a magic point for a lot of consumers.

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#52 shutdown_202
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] DS>playstation familyFizzman

playstation family > Wii

Really lets add up all of Nintendo's handhelds, and consoles, and see which family really wins.

Well if you really wanted to start adding.

Sony Family > Nintendo Family :P

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#53 JuarN18
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what does sales matter? as if anyone here has stock with one of those companies

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*looks at wii's monster hunter 3 and dragon quest 10*
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#54 rybe1025
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]playstation family > Wii

shutdown_202

Really lets add up all of Nintendo's handhelds, and consoles, and see which family really wins.

Well if you really wanted to start adding.

Sony Family > Nintendo Family :P

Microsoft family > Sony Family
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#55 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Really lets add up all of Nintendo's handhelds, and consoles, and see which family really wins.

rybe1025

Well if you really wanted to start adding.

Sony Family > Nintendo Family :P

Microsoft family > Sony Family

All bow before the mighty Windows.

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#56 -RocBoys9489-
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My family > all of your families.
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#57 striking_
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Oh the 360 is inching closer to the wii, other then that nothing interesting as the DS continues to dominate.

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#58 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]playstation family > Wii

shutdown_202

Really lets add up all of Nintendo's handhelds, and consoles, and see which family really wins.

Well if you really wanted to start adding.

Sony Family > Nintendo Family :P

are you sure? some how i think if you add up the nes,snes,64,NGC,WII, gameboy, gameboy color, gameboy advanced, DS, and *cough* virtual boy*cough* it would pass the psp and ps1/2/3
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#59 shutdown_202
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[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Really lets add up all of Nintendo's handhelds, and consoles, and see which family really wins.

surrealnumber5

Well if you really wanted to start adding.

Sony Family > Nintendo Family :P

are you sure? some how i think if you add up the nes,snes,64,NGC,WII, gameboy, gameboy color, gameboy advanced, DS, and *cough* virtual boy*cough* it would pass the psp and ps1/2/3

Yeah but thats why i said Sony family, including their TVs, MP3 players, Movies etc. But Rybe destroyed me with MS family > Sony family.

But besides that, your right. Total Nintendo family > totalPS family.

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#60 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

Well if you really wanted to start adding.

Sony Family > Nintendo Family :P

shutdown_202

are you sure? some how i think if you add up the nes,snes,64,NGC,WII, gameboy, gameboy color, gameboy advanced, DS, and *cough* virtual boy*cough* it would pass the psp and ps1/2/3

Yeah but thats why i said Sony family, including their TVs, MP3 players, Movies etc. But Rybe destroyed me with MS family > Sony family.

But besides that, your right. Total Nintendo family > totalPS family.

well if you add in TVs and such for sony you would have to add in pokeymon plushies t-shirts game cards ect...
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#61 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] are you sure? some how i think if you add up the nes,snes,64,NGC,WII, gameboy, gameboy color, gameboy advanced, DS, and *cough* virtual boy*cough* it would pass the psp and ps1/2/3surrealnumber5

Yeah but thats why i said Sony family, including their TVs, MP3 players, Movies etc. But Rybe destroyed me with MS family > Sony family.

But besides that, your right. Total Nintendo family > totalPS family.

well if you add in TVs and such for sony you would have to add in pokeymon plushies t-shirts game cards ect...

and dont forget that nintendo has been in business for over 100 years... im sure they sold an immense amount of stuff

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#62 Hexagon_777
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The PSP barely outsold the PS3. :?

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#63 hy4k
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360 has had a fantastic showing. i dont think nintendo will meet theie shipment forecasts this fy not buy a longshot

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

Playstation Family > Xbox 360.

Nike_Air

DS>playstation family

playstation family > Wii

lol cows and the playstation family, ps3 is such a joke
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wow at the ds, lols at the ps3. as usual
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#65 themyth01
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I guess this only shows what we can expect from a PS4. Look at Nintendo and the GC => Wii. If this keeps up, Sony might overclock their PS3, maybe put in a slightly better gpu and call it PS4 to try to make up the money lost, after all Sony doesn't have the endless wallet of MS.
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#66 mtradr43
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I guess this only shows what we can expect from a PS4. Look at Nintendo and the GC => Wii. If this keeps up, Sony might overclock their PS3, maybe put in a slightly better gpu and call it PS4 to try to make up the money lost, after all Sony doesn't have the endless wallet of MS. themyth01
no they dont, but if you convert everything to yen you can make it look like they do.
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#67 W1NGMAN-
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Man what's up with the really low sale numbers?

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#68 PBSnipes
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[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Really lets add up all of Nintendo's handhelds, and consoles, and see which family really wins.

rybe1025

Well if you really wanted to start adding.

Sony Family > Nintendo Family :P

Microsoft family > Sony Family

Corleone family>Microsoft family

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#69 ermacness
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[QUOTE="sillaris"]

what does sales matter? as if anyone here has stock with one of those companies

2-10-08

1. Sony could stop making PS3s if they're not selling, which means no more games on the system 2. If something is selling more than the other, it means that the general opinion thinks wii is a much better value than PS3.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or that the wii is 250 bucks a pop, while the ps3 is a whooping 400 bucks a pop. Everyone knows that the ps3 is a MUCH better value than the wii by far, but when you bring innovation + cheap price, you're gonna sell alot of consoles

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#70 Zero5000X
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The PS3 just gets further and further behind...
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#71 dragonfly110
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hmm, not too suprised.I wasnt expecting the PS3 to have dropped this much since last year but I guesss that just goes to show you taht you shouldnt take what you hear in System wars too seriously.

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#72 ermacness
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360 has had a fantastic showing. i dont think nintendo will meet theie shipment forecasts this fy not buy a longshot [QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] DS>playstation familyhy4k

playstation family > Wii

lol cows and the playstation family, ps3 is such a joke

that "joke" of a system is the only system with not only 1, but 2 AAAE's this year so far:lol:

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#73 mtradr43
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="hy4k"]360 has had a fantastic showing. i dont think nintendo will meet theie shipment forecasts this fy not buy a longshot [QUOTE="Nike_Air"]playstation family > Wii

lol cows and the playstation family, ps3 is such a joke

that "joke" of a system is the only system with not only 1, but 2 AAAE's this year so far:lol:

oh yes, because that is truly showing in the sales. the fact that they have those games and are still selling this bad is what makes the ps3 a joke.
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#74 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

Well if you really wanted to start adding.

Sony Family > Nintendo Family :P

PBSnipes

Microsoft family > Sony Family

Corleone family>Microsoft family

I like where this thread is going

:D

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#75 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Anyone know how the Hannah Montana game is selling?

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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or that the wii is 250 bucks a pop, while the ps3 is a whooping 400 bucks a pop. Everyone knows that the ps3 is a MUCH better value than the wii by far, but when you bring innovation + cheap price, you're gonna sell alot of consoles

ermacness

No obviously they don't. Reason why Wii is outselling the PS3 even though the PS3 is indeed better value, the majority of people do not perceive it that way. I doubt a $300 would outsell the Wii, in the end it comes down to image and ability to drive sales and Nintendo has simply done a better job in this department.

(great board this is, always getting: "Your HTML is not well-formed - please check for unclosed tags." when I've not written a single html tag..)

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another month to Nintendo what a shocker
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#78 ermacness
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="hy4k"] lol cows and the playstation family, ps3 is such a jokemtradr43

that "joke" of a system is the only system with not only 1, but 2 AAAE's this year so far:lol:

oh yes, because that is truly showing in the sales. the fact that they have those games and are still selling this bad is what makes the ps3 a joke.

so bad sales = joke of a console??!?!?!! That's a new one. Riddle me this though, if the ps3 was the same EXACT price as the 360, would the 360 still sell more?

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#79 ermacness
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or that the wii is 250 bucks a pop, while the ps3 is a whooping 400 bucks a pop. Everyone knows that the ps3 is a MUCH better value than the wii by far, but when you bring innovation + cheap price, you're gonna sell alot of consoles

themyth01

No obviously they don't. Reason why Wii is outselling the PS3 even though the PS3 is indeed better value, the majority of people do not perceive it that way. I doubt a $300 would outsell the Wii, in the end it comes down to image and ability to drive sales and Nintendo has simply done a better job in this department.

(great board this is, always getting: "Your HTML is not well-formed - please check for unclosed tags." when I've not written a single html tag..)

but i bet you that a 250 dollar one will obliterate the wii

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#80 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="mtradr43"][QUOTE="ermacness"]that "joke" of a system is the only system with not only 1, but 2 AAAE's this year so far:lol:

ermacness

oh yes, because that is truly showing in the sales. the fact that they have those games and are still selling this bad is what makes the ps3 a joke.

so bad sales = joke of a console??!?!?!! That's a new one. Riddle me this though, if the ps3 was the same EXACT price as the 360, would the 360 still sell more?

Maybe, maybe not.

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#81 ermacness
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="mtradr43"] oh yes, because that is truly showing in the sales. the fact that they have those games and are still selling this bad is what makes the ps3 a joke.The_Game21x

so bad sales = joke of a console??!?!?!! That's a new one. Riddle me this though, if the ps3 was the same EXACT price as the 360, would the 360 still sell more?

Maybe, maybe not.

i take it that you really wasn't apart of the console sales in 08

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#82 themyth01
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[QUOTE="themyth01"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or that the wii is 250 bucks a pop, while the ps3 is a whooping 400 bucks a pop. Everyone knows that the ps3 is a MUCH better value than the wii by far, but when you bring innovation + cheap price, you're gonna sell alot of consoles

ermacness

No obviously they don't. Reason why Wii is outselling the PS3 even though the PS3 is indeed better value, the majority of people do not perceive it that way. I doubt a $300 would outsell the Wii, in the end it comes down to image and ability to drive sales and Nintendo has simply done a better job in this department.

(great board this is, always getting: "Your HTML is not well-formed - please check for unclosed tags." when I've not written a single html tag..)

but i bet you that a 250 dollar one will obliterate the wii

Even then it's doubtful, just look at the PSP vs DS. PSP is obviously more bang for the buck but sales tell a different picture. I think Sony has created a skewed image of the PS3 and it'll take a complete re-branding or a new release to actually get people to care again. They emphasized their release of technology rather than a fun game machine and that image has stuck.
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#83 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]so bad sales = joke of a console??!?!?!! That's a new one. Riddle me this though, if the ps3 was the same EXACT price as the 360, would the 360 still sell more?

ermacness

Maybe, maybe not.

i take it that you really wasn't apart of the console sales in 08

Yes I was.

Remember, your argument is based on a "what if" scenario and mypost is perfectly valid in accordance with that scenario.

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#84 ermacness
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="themyth01"] No obviously they don't. Reason why Wii is outselling the PS3 even though the PS3 is indeed better value, the majority of people do not perceive it that way. I doubt a $300 would outsell the Wii, in the end it comes down to image and ability to drive sales and Nintendo has simply done a better job in this department.

(great board this is, always getting: "Your HTML is not well-formed - please check for unclosed tags." when I've not written a single html tag..)

themyth01

but i bet you that a 250 dollar one will obliterate the wii

Even then it's doubtful, just look at the PSP vs DS. PSP is obviously more bang for the buck but sales tell a different picture. I think Sony has created a skewed image of the PS3 and it'll take a complete re-branding or a new release to actually get people to care again. They emphasized their release of technology rather than a fun game machine and that image has stuck.

the brand loyalty is still there. People just isn't going to spend 400 for their fix, but if the ps3 was to ever get as low as the wii (even though i know that the chances of that happening is slim to none), it might not "obliterate" the wii, but it will outsell it definitely

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#85 pierst179
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New Super Mario Bros in the top 10? That is crazy.

I think this is the time for Nintendo to start thinking about a price cut because even with the release of Wii Sports Resort the system didn't manage to sell much more than the 360.

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#86 ermacness
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Maybe, maybe not.

The_Game21x

i take it that you really wasn't apart of the console sales in 08

Yes I was.

Remember, your argument is based on a "what if" scenario and mypost is perfectly valid in accordance with that scenario.

and i'm taking that "what if" scenario and using previous data for my answer. If the ps3 was able to outsell the 360 at being 50 bucks more expensive, the ps3 will definately outsell the 360 being at the same price for sure

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#87 SMR-Venom
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How the HELL is NSMB still selling...HOW?!

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#88 nintendofreak_2
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what does sales matter? as if anyone here has stock with one of those companies

sillaris

Well if a game sells porrly it will most likely not be getting a sequel...

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#89 JB730
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what does sales matter? as if anyone here has stock with one of those companies

sillaris

posts like this are pointless.

if you do not care about sales, why did you enter a thread about NPD results in the first place?

it's like someone going into a thread about GT5 saying "i don't care about GT"........or someone entering a thread about Zelda JUST to post "i don't care about zelda"

some people here do have interest in how the industry is going. it could give some indication on what could be on the horizon for gaming in the future.

and these people definately do not care about whether or not 'sillaris' cares about "sales".

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#90 Bazooka_4ME
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[QUOTE="sillaris"]

what does sales matter? as if anyone here has stock with one of those companies

nintendofreak_2

Well if a game sells porrly it will most likely not be getting a sequel...

Quality determines the games' sales figure.
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#91 Ontain
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what does sales matter? as if anyone here has stock with one of those companies

sillaris
i'm sure some of us have stock in some of those companies in the form of retirement mutual funds.
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#92 JB730
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the nintendo DS sold more than what the entire "sony family" has sold combined this month

terrible look for sony

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#93 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="ermacness"]i take it that you really wasn't apart of the console sales in 08

ermacness

Yes I was.

Remember, your argument is based on a "what if" scenario and mypost is perfectly valid in accordance with that scenario.

and i'm taking that "what if" scenario and using previous data for my answer. If the ps3 was able to outsell the 360 at being 50 bucks more expensive, the ps3 will definately outsell the 360 being at the same price for sure

We'll see.

Again, you can't really disprove my argument here...

The 360 sold very well in 2007, which is regarded as the Xbox 360's best year, games-wise. Now, I'm going to piggy back on the argument PS3 fans constantly use and say that the Xbox 360 has no games this year. Now, if it can sell as well as it has without any games, one can only imagine how much sales will improve when the big time exclusives start coming out this fall leading up to the holiday season.

See what I did there? I used"past data" to reinforce my point in what is essentially a "what if" scenario.

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#94 Mr_Apple_Soup
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How the HELL is NSMB still selling...HOW?!

SMR-Venom

How the hell is mario kart still selling? not only that, but they all put up impressive numbers...Nintendo's sales never cease to amaze me

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#95 JB730
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[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"]

[QUOTE="sillaris"]

what does sales matter? as if anyone here has stock with one of those companies

Bazooka_4ME

Well if a game sells porrly it will most likely not be getting a sequel...

Quality determines the games' sales figure.

not necessarily

carnival games outsold mad world

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#96 -RocBoys9489-
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Yes I was.

Remember, your argument is based on a "what if" scenario and mypost is perfectly valid in accordance with that scenario.

The_Game21x

and i'm taking that "what if" scenario and using previous data for my answer. If the ps3 was able to outsell the 360 at being 50 bucks more expensive, the ps3 will definately outsell the 360 being at the same price for sure

We'll see.

Again, you can't really disprove my argument here...

The 360 sold very well in 2007, which is regarded as the Xbox 360's best year, games-wise. Now, I'm going to piggy back on the argument PS3 fans constantly use and say that the Xbox 360 has no games this year. Now, if it can sell as well as it has without any games, one can only imagine how much sales will improve when the big time exclusives start coming out this fall leading up to the holiday season.

See what I did there? I used"past data" to reinforce my point in what is essentially a "what if" scenario.

I'll make one prediction, the 360 is going to sell hella ton in 2010, especially if we get a $150 arcade, $250 elite, and some kind of natal bundle.
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#97 nintendofreak_2
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Quality determines the games' sales figure. Bazooka_4ME
Ok then. Wii Sports is the best game ever.

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#98 AwesomeJustice
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what does sales matter? as if anyone here has stock with one of those companies

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I do.
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#99 Ontain
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]playstation family > Wii

shutdown_202

Really lets add up all of Nintendo's handhelds, and consoles, and see which family really wins.

Well if you really wanted to start adding.

Sony Family > Nintendo Family :P

link to sony profits vs nintendo profits please ;)
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#100 Bazooka_4ME
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[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"][QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"]Well if a game sells porrly it will most likely not be getting a sequel...

JB730

Quality determines the games' sales figure.

not necessarily

carnival games outsold mad world

Maybe because many people thought carnival games was better than mad world.