NXE a rip-off?

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#1 jbc7343
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Oh my freaking god. I have went to many forums the past few days and no one has even brought this subject up. I mean the NXE has been out a few days and I would've expected someone to notice. I have to express my feelings about Microsoft's terrible decisions. When they see an obstacle in their way they throw money at it (I've checked Wiki -- their yearly earnings are no where near Sony's) why they aren't broke yet is beyond me especially with the state our economy is in. My point is all you heard about was this NXE and how it was gonna change your xbox forever. LIES! there is nothing new about the NXE. People who own Wii's will notice the avatars. They may look slightly different but the basic design is there. People who own Playstation 3's will notice the XMB. YES!! That's right I said it. Their new interface reminds a whole lot of sony's system. You scroll up for a category and left and right for sub categories. RIP-OFF!!! That's the problem with Microsoft.
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#2 jbc7343
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Maybe if Microsoft keeps throwing money at different problems they'll will go bankrupt. I for one believe if Mircosoft was out of the gaming picture then we might just see a whole lot more (and better) steps in innovation. Not just the same re-hashed ideas with theire name slapped on it.
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Actually, NXE is great for two reasons thus far. One, installing a game means no more spinning disc, yay! And two, the party system allows you to join with friends before playing a game without worrying that a game disconnect will make you lose contact. Seriously, it's aobut time.
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#4 farnham
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Actually, NXE is great for two reasons thus far. One, installing a game means no more spinning disc, yay! And two, the party system allows you to join with friends before playing a game without worrying that a game disconnect will make you lose contact. Seriously, it's aobut time.

the installing is going to be great for RPG games i guess
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Actually, NXE is great for two reasons thus far. One, installing a game means no more spinning disc, yay! And two, the party system allows you to join with friends before playing a game without worrying that a game disconnect will make you lose contact. Seriously, it's aobut time.

Mediocre in my opinion. I was expecting something mind-blowing that we haven't seen before. I stand disappointed.
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#6 Tjeremiah1988
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IMO the installs of games is notthing major since it doesnt help most games but makes them worst. The only thing I give em props for is the party chat, but that could of been done ages ago without Avatars and crap included.
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[QUOTE="jbc7343"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]Actually, NXE is great for two reasons thus far. One, installing a game means no more spinning disc, yay! And two, the party system allows you to join with friends before playing a game without worrying that a game disconnect will make you lose contact. Seriously, it's aobut time.

Mediocre in my opinion. I was expecting something mind-blowing that we haven't seen before. I stand disappointed.

You require the disc in the drive to start a game despite it's being installed to the hard disc. Is it the case that you can boot it without the disc? Have you tried it? Can you remove it after the game starts?
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the installing is going to be great for RPG games i guessfarnham
I just plan to install whatever game I'm playing on a daily basis so that I don't have to listen to my 360.
I was expecting something mind-blowing that we haven't seen before. I stand disappointed.jbc7343
Stop getting all hyped for unimportant things. This is like getting all hyped for Miis or Home. It's just a feature >_>
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IMO the installs of games is notthing major since it doesnt help most games but makes them worst. Tjeremiah1988
Listening to discs spin sucks.
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#10 lantus
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The only thing I cared about in the update was the party chat, nothing else really, but I do think it's better than the blades. I also don't see these comparisons to the XMB, they just don't have any similarites to be honest.
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Oh my freaking god. I have went to many forums the past few days and no one has even brought this subject up. I mean the NXE has been out a few days and I would've expected someone to notice. I have to express my feelings about Microsoft's terrible decisions. When they see an obstacle in their way they throw money at it (I've checked Wiki -- their yearly earnings are no where near Sony's) why they aren't broke yet is beyond me especially with the state our economy is in. My point is all you heard about was this NXE and how it was gonna change your xbox forever. LIES! there is nothing new about the NXE. People who own Wii's will notice the avatars. They may look slightly different but the basic design is there. People who own Playstation 3's will notice the XMB. YES!! That's right I said it. Their new interface reminds a whole lot of sony's system. You scroll up for a category and left and right for sub categories. RIP-OFF!!! That's the problem with Microsoft. jbc7343
I think you need to do some fact checking... Just glancing over the wikipedia page... Microsoft Net Income: $17.681 Billion Sony Net Income: $3.694 Billion Microsoft: Market Cap: $230 Billion Sony Market Cap: $36.83 Billion I think we'll be seeing a broke Sony long before we see a broke Microsoft. Now, onto the interface itself. Yes, the NXE dashboard is highly reminiscent of the XMB (except reversed) and the avatars are ripped off of the Wii but there are plenty of new features to be found in the NXE that weren't in the original dashboard and the entire experience is a hell of a lot more user friendly (Expanded guide menu and Party system FTW).
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#12 lantus
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[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]IMO the installs of games is notthing major since it doesnt help most games but makes them worst. Jandurin
Listening to discs spin sucks.

Yeah, it's nice hearing your 360 at a loading screen normal instead of sounding like it's trying to fly through the atmosphere.
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#13 thecreechxxx
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Oh, boo-hoo, NXE doesn't make me coffee and provide horiscopes, blah blah blah

MS was very clear what NXE would include and delivered on all of it. The netflix option is nice, so is downloading the game to the hd, the chat option is awesome and the menus are fast and clean. I like it, it's no more than what I expected!

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no......its fine.
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#15 The_Game21x
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Oh, boo-hoo, NXE doesn't make me coffee and provide horiscopes, blah blah blah

MS was very clear what NXE would include and delivered on all of it. The netflix option is nice, so is downloading the game to the hd, the chat option is awesome and the menus are fast and clean. I like it, it's no more than what I expected!

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Yeah, exactly. It's a dashboard update. It's free. Why are people complaining? It's like winning an Enzo Ferrari and then complaining because it's not the color you wanted.
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MS is far from broke but I can say this, nex gen people will hesitate to purchase a MS console due to its poor reputation this gen and that can hurt em.
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MS is far from broke but I cant say this, nex gen people will hesitate to purchase a MS console due to its poor reputation this gen and that can hurt em. Tjeremiah1988
Umm. That's ridiculous :lol: Last gen, their console sucked, this gen, it's quite excellent, and many people who own a 360 are more than satisfied.
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[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]MS is far from broke but I cant say this, nex gen people will hesitate to purchase a MS console due to its poor reputation this gen and that can hurt em. Jandurin
Umm. That's ridiculous :lol: Last gen, their console sucked, this gen, it's quite excellent, and many people who own a 360 are more than satisfied.

I mean in terms of quality and built of the console. Its faulty and many are upset they have to send it in 3-4 times.
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[QUOTE="farnham"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]Actually, NXE is great for two reasons thus far. One, installing a game means no more spinning disc, yay! And two, the party system allows you to join with friends before playing a game without worrying that a game disconnect will make you lose contact. Seriously, it's aobut time.

the installing is going to be great for RPG games i guess

i already did that with Tales of Vesperia =D and its Awesome!!!!!
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I mean in terms of quality and built of the console. Its faulty and many are upset they have to send it in 3-4 times.Tjeremiah1988
Wasn't the original Playstation rather faulty? I would use the PS2 as an example, but that would actually help your point. >_> :P Anyway, you have a point, MS will probably need to prove their next system's reliability before they can really take off.
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#21 The_Game21x
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MS is far from broke but I can say this, nex gen people will hesitate to purchase a MS console due to its poor reputation this gen and that can hurt em. Tjeremiah1988
The PS2 had a reputation for being unreliable (DRE anyone?) and it hasn't hurt the PS3's sales much. Before anyone compares the PS3's sales to the PS2's, remember, it's "slow" sales can be mostly attributed to its high price more than anything. Anyway, consumers are a fickle bunch. You can crap on them one day then give them roses the next and they'll forget it ever happened. Hell, it's the only reason I can figure as to why GameStop is still in business.
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#22 Episode_Eve
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I wouldn't say NXE is a complete rip-off (besides the avatars). But MS really seemed inspired by Miis, XMB, and Home; as far as navigation and social interactions/representations. NXE is a welcomed improvement. I like it, but I'm still iffy about the avatars.
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#23 Darth_Stalin
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"rip-off"? I believe the term you mean is copying.

Sure they copied Mii's, but no one brings it up, because it has already been brought up, and everyone know it is copied just as much as trophies were copied from MS, and how sony copied motion control. 

Can this thread end now?

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#24 nethernova
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How exactly can something free be a rip-off? Please explain.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]MS is far from broke but I cant say this, nex gen people will hesitate to purchase a MS console due to its poor reputation this gen and that can hurt em. Tjeremiah1988
Umm. That's ridiculous :lol: Last gen, their console sucked, this gen, it's quite excellent, and many people who own a 360 are more than satisfied.

I mean in terms of quality and built of the console. Its faulty and many are upset they have to send it in 3-4 times.

Trust me, I really don't think the hardware issues this generation will be hurting their sales next generation. Especially considering the fact that the 360 warranty was THREE years. Yeah they had faulty hardware, but they certainly stepped up to take care of consumers. If you're alluding to anything outside of that with your reputation comment, I honestly don't know what you could mean. It's a great system with the best lineup and the best online service. If anything the 360 has solidified the X Box brand rather than hurt it.
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#26 Darth_Stalin
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[QUOTE="jbc7343"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]Actually, NXE is great for two reasons thus far. One, installing a game means no more spinning disc, yay! And two, the party system allows you to join with friends before playing a game without worrying that a game disconnect will make you lose contact. Seriously, it's aobut time.

Mediocre in my opinion. I was expecting something mind-blowing that we haven't seen before. I stand disappointed.

What were you expecting?!?! For crud's sake? IGN had an expose of everything that would be on NXE, even MS had videos of it....
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So what? It's free.
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Oh my freaking god. I have went to many forums the past few days and no one has even brought this subject up. I mean the NXE has been out a few days and I would've expected someone to notice. I have to express my feelings about Microsoft's terrible decisions. When they see an obstacle in their way they throw money at it (I've checked Wiki -- their yearly earnings are no where near Sony's) why they aren't broke yet is beyond me especially with the state our economy is in. My point is all you heard about was this NXE and how it was gonna change your xbox forever. LIES! there is nothing new about the NXE. People who own Wii's will notice the avatars. They may look slightly different but the basic design is there. People who own Playstation 3's will notice the XMB. YES!! That's right I said it. Their new interface reminds a whole lot of sony's system. You scroll up for a category and left and right for sub categories. RIP-OFF!!! That's the problem with Microsoft. jbc7343

You may want to check a website that is a little more reliable for this type of information other than a Wiki that anyone can edit. Perhaps a financial website just for thoughts. Not doing your research make your argument a little less valid.

MS has done some interesting stuff in this Gen. Like achievements. unified online and other things. Look at all of the different companies that copied the achievement idea. Sony, Blizzard.

Sony and MS have done some stupid thing too mind you.

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I fail to see how a free update is a rip-off. Especially when it adds worthwhile new features and improves on or is equal to the old system in every way.
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I love NXE its super fast
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#31 delta3074
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tc is talking rubbish, microsofts operational income (including windows) is 4 times what sonys is, windows costs a fair bit and is installed on several million pc's world wide so i don't think they will be going broke any time soon.
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#32 SpruceCaboose
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MS makes more net profits than Sony or Ninty. You are looking at the wrong financial information. On to my second point. How is something that is free a rip off? That seems to contradict logic.
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Oh my freaking god. I have went to many forums the past few days and no one has even brought this subject up. I mean the NXE has been out a few days and I would've expected someone to notice. I have to express my feelings about Microsoft's terrible decisions. When they see an obstacle in their way they throw money at it (I've checked Wiki -- their yearly earnings are no where near Sony's) why they aren't broke yet is beyond me especially with the state our economy is in. My point is all you heard about was this NXE and how it was gonna change your xbox forever. LIES! there is nothing new about the NXE. People who own Wii's will notice the avatars. They may look slightly different but the basic design is there. People who own Playstation 3's will notice the XMB. YES!! That's right I said it. Their new interface reminds a whole lot of sony's system. You scroll up for a category and left and right for sub categories. RIP-OFF!!! That's the problem with Microsoft. jbc7343

the problem is, someone didn't check their facts before posting :)

fact1. sony is in 12 billion dollar in debt

fact2. 12 billion =30% of sony's worth

fact3. sony lost almost 60% of their value

fact4. sony is only worth 25.8billion

but thanks for trying

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=SNE

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#34 delta3074
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[QUOTE="jbc7343"]Oh my freaking god. I have went to many forums the past few days and no one has even brought this subject up. I mean the NXE has been out a few days and I would've expected someone to notice. I have to express my feelings about Microsoft's terrible decisions. When they see an obstacle in their way they throw money at it (I've checked Wiki -- their yearly earnings are no where near Sony's) why they aren't broke yet is beyond me especially with the state our economy is in. My point is all you heard about was this NXE and how it was gonna change your xbox forever. LIES! there is nothing new about the NXE. People who own Wii's will notice the avatars. They may look slightly different but the basic design is there. People who own Playstation 3's will notice the XMB. YES!! That's right I said it. Their new interface reminds a whole lot of sony's system. You scroll up for a category and left and right for sub categories. RIP-OFF!!! That's the problem with Microsoft. meronge

the problem is, someone didn't check their facts before posting :)

fact1. sony is in 12 billion dollar in debt

fact2. 12 billion =30% of sony's worth

fact3. sony lost almost 60% of their value

fact4. sony is only worth 25.8billion

but thanks for trying

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=SNE

i just went to the same place (yahoo finance) an it says thatMS net income minus expenses for jun 08 was 17,681,000 pounds that a lot of money for 1 month
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Actually, NXE is great for two reasons thus far. One, installing a game means no more spinning disc, yay! And two, the party system allows you to join with friends before playing a game without worrying that a game disconnect will make you lose contact. Seriously, it's aobut time.jbc7343
Mediocre in my opinion. I was expecting something mind-blowing that we haven't seen before. I stand disappointed.

So, you have seen the party system the netflix service (movies at the touch of a botton) and the fast user interface in another console? If you consider NXE mediocre, what do you consider what the other consoles have?

This is the best update to any console, to date.