[NXGamer] First next-gen head to head (huge advantage for the Series X)

Those 12 TFLOPs showing their muscles. That 9.2 TFLOPs PS5 can't compete.

Clickbait aside, other than poking fun at speed and whatever visual quirks, its still a crossgen title. Needs to wait for games like AC Unity which I dont think will come soon this time. The virus really impacted the world.

I came in here to bash my own console. Now i am disappointed.

@Juub1990: Why are people arguing load times when quick resume exists. I mean you can turn it off and come back to play later, turn your SeX on and hit the game icon and you're back to where you left off in a second, no need for loading.

The only load you need is the initial one or if you come back to the game months later.

@i_p_daily: Load times don't only occur when you start a game

I don't see the 40%.

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Already forgot?

Still not a big difference, and not really worth noting, but cows win something i guess lol.

@i_p_daily: Then don't ask obvious questions 🤷‍♂️

And who are these guys ?

No i just remember this.

Thats the same thing i ask my self every time i see you post.

@tormentos: I just asked who were they , never heard of them ... Why are you agresive dude ? do you have a personal man - console love or something ?

@the6millionlies: NXGamer is an independent YouTube channel that’s pretty much a one man Digital Foundry. He’s reliable.

@the6millionlies: l haven’t watched it yet but the series X dipping to lower resolutions and tearing frames is really interesting. As someone mentioned above, this is a cross gen title so we’ll see but so far this is setting the tone for the rest of the gen right now.

Na don't take me as been aggressive this is my normal self.😂

The problem i see with the cross platform point is that the PS4 and xbox one also had those and the PS4 did came on top still.

And example that fit perfectly here Assassins creed black flag in 2013, was cross gen and still was superior on PS4 1080p vs 900p + AA which i think was missing from the xbox version.

Thats apparently because the series X drop lower in resolution, surely will make for a interesting DF comparison.

Can’t wait to see the meltdown after DF give the crown to PS5 on this one. Look at the difference in detail here.

the guy did say he saw the XSX drop to 1440 but also said that it is likely the lower limits for both consoles.

Also said that both consoles use tessellation he did say on occasion they "over tessellate" it with the PS5 doing it worse

said the XSX is better performance but that it is so marginal that it is not noticeable

PS5 has a loading advantage from the main menu by 12% (which is 1.56 seconds in the example he showed) and re-spawn by 5% ( 0.67 seconds in the example he showed)

So PS5 wins in some areas and XSX wins in others.. which I think will be the case with most 3rd party games

LOL cope harder buddy. Look at the difference in detail. Also, PS5 is fully v synced which hampers frames. It’s funny watching you panic though

@phlop_spencer: LOL O.K. PLOP .. who is panicking? You seem to be heavily invested and gain your identity from being for one and against the other.

I do not get my identity from a console.. I play on XBOX and I have built a community of friends on XBOX but I have no issues with people playing on whatever console or PC they want. I actually have owned PS consoles and enjoyed playing them too.

You sure say a lot of words to pretend you don’t care. We really believe you buddy LOL. It’s not like you don’t create threads trying to spread PS5 FUD or anything...

COPE

@phlop_spencer: lol you are a sad little boy there PLOP maybe you need to go and get a hug from your mommy.

Just realized something. Wasn't this game supposed to be Native 4K on Series X and dynamic 4K on PS5? And it turns out is dynamic on both?

Correct. It was shady marketing obviously paid for by MS. Also (though we don’t know the full scoop yet) so far, the xbone version hits 1440p lol.

Things are not looking too promising my green bros!

The Xbox One X you mean?

@Zero_epyon: the series x hits 1440p. It’s in the video. PS5 doesn’t go that low in his comparison

oh cause you said xbone lol

This is why I mostly stayed out of technical talk, because I wanted to see the consoles' real world performance. So far, Series X ain't exactly tearing away from the pack, and Series S continues to be barely next gen. Probably why they're in a studio buying spree, likely because they can't boast power anymore.

Sony right now:

But seriously, so far it's going as I expected it to. But it's only with cross gen titles which could go either way. We might not know for sure how things go until 2021.

Side note: DF noted the screen tearing on the Series X

Screen tearing and Xbox has always been a thing, weird.

@BenjaminBanklin: Microsoft simply just doesn’t have a clue when it comes to the gaming market. They make the most powerful console (one x), then rely on third parties to showcase it.

They design the series x with all these marketing buzzwords, and literary do not have one game that shows off the power. Not one.

They can’t manage big AAA budget games, nor do they even understand what gamers want. Look at the shit show that is halo infinite. Do you think Sony would ever allow their crown jewel from ND to look that fucking shitty on the world stage? That halo showing was disgraceful - and then the devs bitched about how much blood sweat and tears went into that “demo”. How the **** could they not pull their shit together for series x launch?

MS doesn’t understand how to make an excellent game. Something that when people play and complete, they just sit back and go wow that was an experience. I literally cannot think of a single one?

What we’re seeing now are studio acquisitions to make titles for gamepass. I really really really dont have faith that MS will produce a fuckin system seller for at least 2 years. I can’t even think of the one true Bloodborne for the Xbox. Or even their equivalent to uncharted (tomb raider was a joke in comparison)

MS is all about their spec sheets and parts list, but when you combine them together there’s no magical IPhone - it just becomes another shitty Android phone reliant on open source devs to produces apps that generate income and be shit quality compared to the iPhone version.

Edit: game pass is a great service for what it is. Doesn’t mean ms can make a banger game though.

It'll be a while until we see what these consoles can do. I heard MS barely have the fully tooled development kits out.

I don't think anyone will be disappointed with their new PS or Xbox consoles this gen. Looking forward to it. I hope everyone enjoys the launch. MS and Sony have really outdone themselves. Feels like all consoles are really well thought out from hardware to software.

I think this is the first time I've been excited about consoles since the 7th gen began.

@tormentos said:

@hardwenzen said:

@tormentos said:

I don't see the 40%.

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Already forgot?

No i just remember this.

LOL, now damn that was a good comeback Tomatoes! XD

another serious x win

I would try watching the video

That because your eye can't tell the difference between 59FPS and 60FPS, if one image blur more you can see it.

Stop man this is the xbox the thing use windows period you can use a PC and with little effort have it running on xbox, and is the reason MS has use PC's with Nvidias cards for ages to showcase games.

You look like Blackace did early this gen that use to hide on new sdk to claim the xbox would increase its graphics ,the xbox is say to be such an easy machine to make games for that 1 developer alone was making a game.

https://www.gamesradar.com/how-one-man-is-creating-a-next-generation-shooter-with-bright-memory-infinite/

I think people jumped the gun with what the performance delta would be between this 2 machines.

This is not looking good.

Just wait until Pedro wakes up and see this.🤣🤣🤣

Interesting I want to say when games start to get more demanding higher bandwidth etc the SeX will start to show it stuff. I guess the rumors, theories about api not there yet might be true early days.

Meh never liked NXGamer. He's too much a shill of Uncharted/Naughty Dog and that throws all credibility out of the window. He tried hard to DC the UC4 downgrade and false promises.

Probably in this instance he's just trying to win the lems with XSX by hyping it.

True but mostly on deaths/checkpoints the difference is even less due to much of the stuff already in memory. So, practically the longest load times are from the cold start.

All the talk about loading times but these SSD's are not there for that. They are their to save on memory cost by serving as secondary cache. Loading times are just a bonus.

I don't think that will change much, the series X has slower bandwidth as well on 1 side and it basically has split memory on that regard.

I love how this is playing now, i have been telling people here that the difference between this 2 machines would not be great based on 5700XT vs 5700 which is almost spot on with both machines, while the series X has higher bandwidth on one side it has less on the other and a dual memory set up for all intended purposes.

I don't think latter devkits will solve anything this is the same shit people claim with DX12 on 2013 and nothing changed, the xbox one improved a little because a GPU reservation was release from the OS.

I just don't see a big gap this gen.

You never like anything that give an advantage to sony.

Is you the problem.

Ok I just re watched the video and people here seem to be twisting what the guy said

Both versions are identical

XSX has a small FPS advantage (unnoticeable ),but has tearing but isn't that bad as people make it up to be here.

He encountered an area where XSX drops to 1440p and stays high resolution on PS5 , but he said both versions drop to 1440p

He didn't like the over tessellation use on PS5 but well that's up to debate

PS5 loads faster by 2 seconds or 3.

One thing I didn't understand for sure why he kept calling it a demo.

Yeah i don't think that was his intention, i think he claimed that to not appear PS biased.

This is one done by VG tech and does show the xbox series X falling behind the PS5 in frames, both machines dip below 60, is most of the time 60, but there are areas were you enter and a bunch of people will cause frames drops on xbox while on PS5 it remain locked.

Worse the xbox series S version is 30FPS this is lol worthy considering MS advertised the thing as having performance parity with the series X but on lower resolution, here we clearly see that the hit on series S is not CPU WISE AT ALL but GPU wise, it simple can't render 60FPS even if the CPU can do it.

Edit.

What video did you watch? He clearly say he BELIEVES 1440p will be the lowest on both, but the actual lowest he could spot on PS5 was 1620p.

@sakaixx said:

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 We have a winner.

The scaling on Series S is weird. They should not be afraid to drop the res to 1080p or even lower for a 60fps mode. Its not like the higher consoles are native 4k. Series S does not have to be 1440p. Hopefully some standards will start to develop as the gen goes on. MS scaling of Series S is a bit off from there its just the resolution adverts.