Now I read through some forums and most of what people say is that the 360 is the clear winner of the console wars. I can't believe how argonant some of these people are. Your patting a system on its back when it had a year head start before the other 2 systems. Of course it's good when the developers had enough time to get use to their system. When the 360 launched people were waiting for great games like Halo 3 and Bioshock and Gears of War while playing some okay games for the wait. The 360 is not the winner of the console wars! Don't count out the PS3 and Wii down and out.
Now I read through some forums and most of what people say is that the 360 is the clear winner of the console wars. I can't believe how argonant some of these people are. Your patting a system on its back when it had a year head start before the other 2 systems. Of course it's good when the developers had enough time to get use to their system. When the 360 launched people were waiting for great games like Halo 3 and Bioshock and Gears of War while playing some okay games for the wait. The 360 is not the winner of the console wars! Don't count out the PS3 and Wii down and out. shadowfox55
unless you have a time machine in your back pocket the 360 will always be out a year longer than the ps3 and wii. your claim is that year head start is the only reason the 360 is winning, not the fact that the 360 has more great games than the wii and ps3 combined. so if your reason is right the 360 wins, if my reason is right the 360 wins. either way you have just crowned the 360 the winner also.
well if the wii with " no games" as the fan boys say has already past the 360 with all its great games that just shows how weak the xbox brand name is.
The year headstart should count only until about the 1-1 and a half year mark of the other consoles. After then the year head start is no excuse. This is all my opinion of course.
*sigh* i really should just re-sticky my mythbusting thread.
once again...
statisitcally, the 360's exclusive launch lineup was better than the ps3's current exclusive lineup. the 360 launched with 1 AAAE and 3 AAEs. the ps3 currently has 4 AAEs.
why does the one year head start matter when all the 360 needed was its launch library to beat the ps3?
*sigh* i really should just re-sticky my mythbusting thread.
once again...
statisitcally, the 360's exclusive launch lineup was better than the ps3's current exclusive lineup. the 360 launched with 1 AAAE and 3 AAEs. the ps3 currently has 4 AAEs.
why does the one year head start matter when all the 360 needed was its launch library to beat the ps3?
CaseyWegner
Don't game standards improve over a year? When the 360 came out I bet people were rather impressed by its graphical prowess. The PS3 won't have had that impact... Besides, that's just the launch. People here mention every 360 game to date and compare it to the PS3.
*sigh* i really should just re-sticky my mythbusting thread.
once again...
statisitcally, the 360's exclusive launch lineup was better than the ps3's current exclusive lineup. the 360 launched with 1 AAAE and 3 AAEs. the ps3 currently has 4 AAEs.
why does the one year head start matter when all the 360 needed was its launch library to beat the ps3?
SolidSnake35
Don't game standards improve over a year? When the 360 came out I bet people were rather impressed by its graphical prowess. The PS3 won't have had that impact... Besides, that's just the launch. People here mention every 360 game to date and compare it to the PS3.good post btw. that is like when i first bought FEAR , and HL2 for pc on launch day. i thought those 2 games looked so awesome. now they look good, but not as much i use to when i first played them
*sigh* i really should just re-sticky my mythbusting thread.
once again...
statisitcally, the 360's exclusive launch lineup was better than the ps3's current exclusive lineup. the 360 launched with 1 AAAE and 3 AAEs. the ps3 currently has 4 AAEs.
why does the one year head start matter when all the 360 needed was its launch library to beat the ps3?
SolidSnake35
Don't game standards improve over a year? When the 360 came out I bet people were rather impressed by its graphical prowess. The PS3 won't have had that impact... Besides, that's just the launch. People here mention every 360 game to date and compare it to the PS3.
If it makes you feel better, do it like this:
Take the first 10 months of the PS3 and the first 10 months of the 360.
*sigh* i really should just re-sticky my mythbusting thread.
once again...
statisitcally, the 360's exclusive launch lineup was better than the ps3's current exclusive lineup. the 360 launched with 1 AAAE and 3 AAEs. the ps3 currently has 4 AAEs.
why does the one year head start matter when all the 360 needed was its launch library to beat the ps3?
BlueBarad
Don't game standards improve over a year? When the 360 came out I bet people were rather impressed by its graphical prowess. The PS3 won't have had that impact... Besides, that's just the launch. People here mention every 360 game to date and compare it to the PS3.
If it makes you feel better, do it like this:
Take the first 10 months of the PS3 and the first 10 months of the 360.
Which one is better?
Let it go...
That's pretty much the same, and my points still stand. Game standards may have still favoured the 360 as its first 10 months were earlier than the PS3's...
Also since the 360 got a year headstart.... Sony had more time to update there graphics better then the 360...how come there pretty even as far as graphics go? and the FPS goes to 360's favor? Hmm?
I don't want this to only be about the 360 and PS3 the Wii is also included in this. Doesn't the Wii have a AAA game when it released.
So four great games according to gamespot the PS3 has in its library. I say that because some games they reviewed or either above what they say or below.
Also since the 360 got a year headstart.... Sony had more time to update there graphics better then the 360...how come there pretty even as far as graphics go? and the FPS goes to 360's favor? Hmm?lilhomes
well how come halo 3 doest look as good as gears of war, cod4, mass effect?
*sigh* i really should just re-sticky my mythbusting thread.
once again...
statisitcally, the 360's exclusive launch lineup was better than the ps3's current exclusive lineup. the 360 launched with 1 AAAE and 3 AAEs. the ps3 currently has 4 AAEs.
why does the one year head start matter when all the 360 needed was its launch library to beat the ps3?
SolidSnake35
Don't game standards improve over a year? When the 360 came out I bet people were rather impressed by its graphical prowess. The PS3 won't have had that impact... Besides, that's just the launch. People here mention every 360 game to date and compare it to the PS3.and your point is???? if i go to the store i can buy every single game to date. the store dosn't tell me i can only buy last years games. we compare what you can play now. the ps3 will never catch up. resistance came out the year before lair on the same console, so whats the excuse for that? and remember the 360 is winning with the 9 gig dvd drive. the bluray, the cell, the floppage. remember ken saying the 360 wouldn't be able to compete? that next gen didn't start untill the ps3 came out? but you just keep waiting. and when the xbox 720 comes out a year earlier i sugesst you learn from you mistake and buy it at launch.
*sigh* i really should just re-sticky my mythbusting thread.
once again...
statisitcally, the 360's exclusive launch lineup was better than the ps3's current exclusive lineup. the 360 launched with 1 AAAE and 3 AAEs. the ps3 currently has 4 AAEs.
why does the one year head start matter when all the 360 needed was its launch library to beat the ps3?
SolidSnake35
Don't game standards improve over a year? When the 360 came out I bet people were rather impressed by its graphical prowess. The PS3 won't have had that impact... Besides, that's just the launch. People here mention every 360 game to date and compare it to the PS3.
[QUOTE="lilhomes"]Also since the 360 got a year headstart.... Sony had more time to update there graphics better then the 360...how come there pretty even as far as graphics go? and the FPS goes to 360's favor? Hmm?ghoulsandghost
well how come halo 3 doest look as good as gears of war, cod4, mass effect?
CoD4 isnt out yet. Either is mass effect. And for GoW; some say it is better looking some don't depends who your asking. Now stay back on subject.
*sigh* i really should just re-sticky my mythbusting thread.
once again...
statisitcally, the 360's exclusive launch lineup was better than the ps3's current exclusive lineup. the 360 launched with 1 AAAE and 3 AAEs. the ps3 currently has 4 AAEs.
why does the one year head start matter when all the 360 needed was its launch library to beat the ps3?
SolidSnake35
Don't game standards improve over a year? When the 360 came out I bet people were rather impressed by its graphical prowess. The PS3 won't have had that impact... Besides, that's just the launch. People here mention every 360 game to date and compare it to the PS3.
If it makes you feel better, do it like this:
Take the first 10 months of the PS3 and the first 10 months of the 360.
Which one is better?
Let it go...
That's pretty much the same, and my points still stand. Game standards may have still favoured the 360 as its first 10 months were earlier than the PS3's...
So if its unfair to compare their first 10 months...and unfair to compare 360's 2nd year with PS3/Wii first year...what are we suppose to do?
when the xbox 720 comes out a year earlier i sugesst you learn from you mistake and buy it at launch.rdo
What mistake did I make? I have a 360, and it has the better games at the moment, I agree.... I'm just saying that there's an obvious reason for it, and it's not that the 360 is the better console. In fact, it's worse... it just had the headstart.
[QUOTE="lilhomes"]Also since the 360 got a year headstart.... Sony had more time to update there graphics better then the 360...how come there pretty even as far as graphics go? and the FPS goes to 360's favor? Hmm?ghoulsandghost
well how come halo 3 doest look as good as gears of war, cod4, mass effect? Easy; Halo 3 has much better physics, larger, open levels, more enemies on screen at once, more teammates on screen at once and more effects going on at once.
[QUOTE="ghoulsandghost"][QUOTE="lilhomes"]Also since the 360 got a year headstart.... Sony had more time to update there graphics better then the 360...how come there pretty even as far as graphics go? and the FPS goes to 360's favor? Hmm?DivergeUnify
well how come halo 3 doest look as good as gears of war, cod4, mass effect? Easy; Halo 3 has much better physics, larger, open levels, more enemies on screen at once, more teammates on screen at once and more effects going on at once. halo 3 has awesome physics, but looking at COD4 game play videos. it looks like COD4 blows halo 3 phyics out the water. but then again that is just my opinion.
Give the Wii and PS3 until the the end of 08' to say which is better. I don't own any of the next gen consoles yet, I am waiting to see which console to get and 08 is the year for me to get one of them.
*sigh* i really should just re-sticky my mythbusting thread.
once again...
statisitcally, the 360's exclusive launch lineup was better than the ps3's current exclusive lineup. the 360 launched with 1 AAAE and 3 AAEs. the ps3 currently has 4 AAEs.
why does the one year head start matter when all the 360 needed was its launch library to beat the ps3?
SolidSnake35
Don't game standards improve over a year? When the 360 came out I bet people were rather impressed by its graphical prowess. The PS3 won't have had that impact... Besides, that's just the launch. People here mention every 360 game to date and compare it to the PS3.so when one form of damage control gets shot down you ocme up with osmething else?
[QUOTE="rdo"]when the xbox 720 comes out a year earlier i sugesst you learn from you mistake and buy it at launch.SolidSnake35
What mistake did I make? I have a 360, and it has the better games at the moment, I agree.... I'm just saying that there's an obvious reason for it, and it's not that the 360 is the better console. In fact, it's worse... it just had the headstart.
Since it got ignored last time, I'll say it again. Using that logic, 360 will always have better games, since they are a year more advanced.
[QUOTE="ghoulsandghost"][QUOTE="lilhomes"]Also since the 360 got a year headstart.... Sony had more time to update there graphics better then the 360...how come there pretty even as far as graphics go? and the FPS goes to 360's favor? Hmm?lilhomes
well how come halo 3 doest look as good as gears of war, cod4, mass effect?
CoD4 isnt out yet. Either is mass effect. And for GoW; some say it is better looking some don't depends who your asking. Now stay back on subject.
is that a serious question? first there is the mud look to GeOWand Halo 3 has large enviroments, while GeOW has small inclosed enviroments that are very dark. two very very VERY different looking games
[QUOTE="rdo"]when the xbox 720 comes out a year earlier i sugesst you learn from you mistake and buy it at launch.SolidSnake35
What mistake did I make? I have a 360, and it has the better games at the moment, I agree.... I'm just saying that there's an obvious reason for it, and it's not that the 360 is the better console. In fact, it's worse... it just had the headstart.then explain why all the multiplats are better on the 360, even the anual releases like madden? they only have 1 year to crank out the game, neither gets a head start. the unified memeory in the 360 is a large reason 360 games are better, and thats gonna last for the entire gen.
to see what hardware is more powerful just make an emulator of the other hardware. thats why you can emulate the xbox1 on the 360 or the ps2 on the ps3. the problems developers are running into is that the 360 can mimic the restraints of the ps3 dedicated memory, but the ms3 cant mimic the freedom of alottable memory. you can easily port a ps3 game to the 360, but when porting a 360 game to the ps3 you have to rewrite it to stay withing the confines of the ps3 ram and omit stuff that goes above the ram limits. you can put extras into a ps3 game when you put it on the 360, but you have to omit when putting a 360 game on the ps3. so why not make the ps3 the primary development platform? because it's much harder to program for and time is money. the 360 version is the cheapest to build, has the most freedom, and is easily ported to/from windows meaning you get two platforms for the price of 1.
*sigh* i really should just re-sticky my mythbusting thread.
once again...
statisitcally, the 360's exclusive launch lineup was better than the ps3's current exclusive lineup. the 360 launched with 1 AAAE and 3 AAEs. the ps3 currently has 4 AAEs.
why does the one year head start matter when all the 360 needed was its launch library to beat the ps3?
getyeryayasout
Spoken like a seasoned Lem. I thought you just got yours? *smiley,winky*
it's from my myth thread. you must have missed it otherwise you wouldn't have said anything close to what you just said.
[QUOTE="HappyAppe"]So if its unfair to compare their first 10 months...and unfair to compare 360's 2nd year with PS3/Wii first year...what are we suppose to do?SolidSnake35
You can compare them, but when you see that it has the better games, you must realise that it's not because the 360 is the better console.
What are you basing "better console" on? The console that gets the better games is the better console.
then explain why all the multiplats are better on the 360, even the anual releases like madden? they only have 1 year to crank out the game, neither gets a head start.rdo
The PS3 has some better multiplats, such as Dirt, Oblivion, and GRAW... Am I not correct in saying that most multiplats that are better on the 360 come from EA, and they admitted to doing shoddy jobs for the PS3?
Wait, so you're saying that the 1 year head start is the reason for the 360 having better games than the PS3 and Wii? An extra year only means a larger library, not the quality of the games. The 360 is lucky because Microsoft struck deals with a lot of talented developers, the console itself is developer friendly, and it's a more traditional game system, where as the the Wii and PS3 have hardware differences that make it difficult to develop for. Of course in the sense of a year head start, the 360 having a larger library of quality games than the other consoles is obvious. So yeah, the 360 will have better games until developers learn how to use the other system's hardware effectively.
[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="HappyAppe"]So if its unfair to compare their first 10 months...and unfair to compare 360's 2nd year with PS3/Wii first year...what are we suppose to do?Zeliard9
You can compare them, but when you see that it has the better games, you must realise that it's not because the 360 is the better console.
What are you basing "better console" on? The console that gets the better games is the better console.
Well, the PS3 is better in almost every aspect except for the games, and I'm pretty certain that it could handle all of the games that are on the 360 too. Microsoft made a poor console to be honest. No built in Wifi, and its reliability is just abysmal.
Madden is better on the 360 because the developers had enough time to get use to their system. While on the Wii and PS3 they didn't. They had difficulties with the Wii's new controller and didn't enhance the graphics on the PS3.
360 has been second to Wii for a while now, and the gap between PS3 has decreased alot. There just being highly optomistic, and some are still ignorant that Wii is selling better and has sold more than 360 in only 10 months. Great games didn't save the dreamcast.
It does not matter which product was released first!! In competition age and experience (or which product was released first) is not a FACTOR!!!!!! Plane and simple you either a head of competition or behind!! You either winning or loosing!! Consumers do not care who had more time to work on the product, all they care is what does the company have to offer right now!!! Since consumers are looking to spend that money NOW!! Just like in sports no one cares who had more time to prepare for the event. In the end all that matters is you either WON or LOST.
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