Official Halo 3 Discussion Thread (round 3)

apparently the scissor sisters are doing music for halo wars and are playing the halo 3 beta in game for fame.  http://xbox360.qj.net/Scissor-Sisters-taking-part-in-Halo-3-multiplayer-beta/pg/49/aid/93237

also new artwork from halo 3. looks like arbiter is definitely back.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

halo kicks so much ass we had to have 3 threads.

 

the haters have been destroyed. 

leejohnson7

Yet they can still argue that this looked nothing like the "realtime" trailer of MC. Which wasn't realtime and the singleplayer story wont look like that, it wont look much better than the multiplayer.

Ohh and why are people taing pictures of screens? Halo 3 has a lot of jaggies, but doing that just makes them not noticable. When I played it, it looked pretty bad. Put it this way, GeOW looked better.

the trailer was running in real time off the halo 3 engine. also no one has seen any recent version of the single player yet so i dont see how you came to such a conclusion.

People stop dreaming that HAlo 3 single player will look as good as the e3 trailer... cmon be real. Bungie cant afford to make 2 engines for Halo.

By the way whose still playing halo 3 beta here? I played for 2 days and after that it was pretty boring. It kinda feels really old school playing halo, no sprint?slow moving and jump jump jump. 

People stop dreaming that HAlo 3 single player will look as good as the e3 trailer... cmon be real. Bungie cant afford to make 2 engines for Halo.

By the way whose still playing halo 3 beta here? I played for 2 days and after that it was pretty boring. It kinda feels really old school playing halo, no sprint?slow moving and jump jump jump. 

Tamarind_Face

im pretty sure they can afford it...the success of the previous halo's add to the fact microsoft must be backing them like theres no tommorow...just you wait i bet your pleasantly surprised

People stop dreaming that HAlo 3 single player will look as good as the e3 trailer... cmon be real. Bungie cant afford to make 2 engines for Halo.

Tamarind_Face

they can just use the same engine and tone the graphics and stuff down for multiplayer.

To all the guys posting screens of the beta to prove that they "dont suck", ive played over 100 games so far, and the graphics, on some levels, dont even look better than Halo 1's... The wall and ground textures are low-res and blurry, same goes for the grass and tree leaves, there is hardly any lighting in all in the maps, not even a significant amount of HDR lighting! Therre re also jaggies everywhere, which right there makes the game look last-gen. And now to the vehicles and weapons. Both look like they took them directly from Halo 2. The Ghost and Banshee look shiny though, which i love

 The only things that look good in the Beta are the water (can be improved though) and the character models (also can be improved)

People stop dreaming that HAlo 3 single player will look as good as the e3 trailer... cmon be real. Bungie cant afford to make 2 engines for Halo.

By the way whose still playing halo 3 beta here? I played for 2 days and after that it was pretty boring. It kinda feels really old school playing halo, no sprint?slow moving and jump jump jump.

Tamarind_Face

Bungie said they are only allowing us to play the "core" gameplay of Halo. They said theres tons of stuff still being kept secret. And with the Beta just being Halo 2 with a few new additions, it is FUN AS HELL!! No auto-aim = a totally new experience, this is the most fun ive had with my 360 yet online 

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

halo kicks so much ass we had to have 3 threads.

 

the haters have been destroyed.

leejohnson7

Yet they can still argue that this looked nothing like the "realtime" trailer of MC. Which wasn't realtime and the singleplayer story wont look like that, it wont look much better than the multiplayer.

Ohh and why are people taing pictures of screens? Halo 3 has a lot of jaggies, but doing that just makes them not noticable. When I played it, it looked pretty bad. Put it this way, GeOW looked better.

the e3 triler was IN-GAME, running off of the Halo 3 engine. Bungie said, "This is the engine. This is how Halo 3 will look, and we are doing it RIGHT NOW." Then they tookthe camera and moved it around the scene in the trailer 

[QUOTE="leejohnson7"][QUOTE="JPOBS"]

halo kicks so much ass we had to have 3 threads.

 

the haters have been destroyed.

krp008

Yet they can still argue that this looked nothing like the "realtime" trailer of MC. Which wasn't realtime and the singleplayer story wont look like that, it wont look much better than the multiplayer.

Ohh and why are people taing pictures of screens? Halo 3 has a lot of jaggies, but doing that just makes them not noticable. When I played it, it looked pretty bad. Put it this way, GeOW looked better.

the e3 triler was IN-GAME, running off of the Halo 3 engine. Bungie said, "This is the engine. This is how Halo 3 will look, and we are doing it RIGHT NOW." Then they tookthe camera and moved it around the scene in the trailer

Qs for fanboys....

1.Name a game for PS3 that has 4 player split-screen.

2.How about 16 players lan and online.

3.A game that is so customisable you can create your own gametypes.

Thats the social element of Halo.

The beta Rocks

jessesalinas

One thing that awed so many people about the E3 trailer was the reflection in the Cheif's visor, something that is not present at all in the beta. Now I don't expect the same amount of detail that was see in the announcement trailer, but we need at least some. Well, there was some in the screenshot of the campaign from last year, so by the final version the real-time visor reflection should be pretty cool.

[QUOTE="jessesalinas"] Bansheesdie

One thing that awed so many people about the E3 trailer was the reflection in the Cheif's visor, something that is not present at all in the beta. Now I don't expect the same amount of detail that was see in the announcement trailer, but we need at least some. Well, there was some in the screenshot of the campaign from last year, so by the final version the real-time visor reflection should be pretty cool.

I am willing to bet we'll see the visor reflection in the single player. It's the same concept applied to the sniper and BR's scopes in the Beta (if you look carefully they reflect the environment they're pointed at). Since I believe the detail in the single-player will be higher than that of the multiplayer's, I think we'll get nice subtle effects like the reflection on MC's visor and other things.

Qs for fanboys....

1.Name a game for PS3 that has 4 player split-screen. Haze

2.How about 16 players lan and online. Resistance

3.A game that is so customisable you can create your own gametypes. ResistanceKiller2401

I mean, I'm not even a PS3 fan and I can answer those questions... 

Bungie said they are only allowing us to play the "core" gameplay of Halo. They said theres tons of stuff still being kept secret. And with the Beta just being Halo 2 with a few new additions, it is FUN AS HELL!! No auto-aim = a totally new experience, this is the most fun ive had with my 360 yet online 

krp008

I agree, this is easily the most fun I've had online to date with my console. I couldn't play Halo 2 for more than an hour online before getting bored with it. I played Halo 3 for 7 hours straight the first night I could sit down with it and enjoy it.

Seriously, I think it's killer. I'm just curious what more they're going to add to it. Common September 25 :D :D

[QUOTE="krp008"]

Bungie said they are only allowing us to play the "core" gameplay of Halo. They said theres tons of stuff still being kept secret. And with the Beta just being Halo 2 with a few new additions, it is FUN AS HELL!! No auto-aim = a totally new experience, this is the most fun ive had with my 360 yet online

musicalmac

I agree, this is easily the most fun I've had online to date with my console. I couldn't play Halo 2 for more than an hour online before getting bored with it. I played Halo 3 for 7 hours straight the first night I could sit down with it and enjoy it.

Seriously, I think it's killer. I'm just curious what more they're going to add to it. Common September 25 :D :D

In Halo 2, I played mainly to win and level up. In Halo 3, before every match I tell myself to do my best because I'm gonna make the BEST MONTAGE FILM EVER! Lol its so addicting just trying to own so hard just so you can brag to your friends with the film feature 

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Qs for fanboys....

1.Name a game for PS3 that has 4 player split-screen. Haze

2.How about 16 players lan and online. Resistance

3.A game that is so customisable you can create your own gametypes. ResistanceRaidea

I mean, I'm not even a PS3 fan and I can answer those questions...

1. Haze isnt out yet

2. Resistance sucks 

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[QUOTE="jessesalinas"] kankthetank

One thing that awed so many people about the E3 trailer was the reflection in the Cheif's visor, something that is not present at all in the beta. Now I don't expect the same amount of detail that was see in the announcement trailer, but we need at least some. Well, there was some in the screenshot of the campaign from last year, so by the final version the real-time visor reflection should be pretty cool.

I am willing to bet we'll see the visor reflection in the single player. It's the same concept applied to the sniper and BR's scopes in the Beta (if you look carefully they reflect the environment they're pointed at). Since I believe the detail in the single-player will be higher than that of the multiplayer's, I think we'll get nice subtle effects like the reflection on MC's visor and other things.

Bungie recently said in an interview that both the MP and SP graphics will be the same, only that in MP they cant add graphical features like fog, lighting, smoke, etc that would mess with the player's vision. Thats why in MP there isnt any drastic HDR or hardly any lighting at all. 

Adding these features would mess with the players vision, but its not a bad thing Bungie!! It would make the graphics look at least a LITTLE next-gen and would create a little more skill for the player to spot the enemy 

I'll play a game or two of the Beta, but then jump right back to playing Gears. Halo 3 doesn't "grab" me and pull me in like Gears does, or even GRAW/GRAW2 for that matter. I'm holding out hope for the single player, but nothing that I've seen so far screams out "next gen" to me.REVENGEotSITH

:lol: Sorry bud, but Gears is one of the worst multiplayer games ive ever played. I would play Halo 1 over Gear's MP 

I can't believe how fanboyish some people can be! I was over at the bungie.nete forums and people are stating that "The Beta's graphics are some of the best ive ever seen!!". I mean, i love the Beta to death. Ive played over 100 games, the gameplay is incredible, but the graphics are pretty terrible. Here is a thread hyping the graphics. Come on! If you don't complain about them, Bungie won't have the need to improve them!krp008

The graphics are terrible? I dont think so. Take another look. Theyre good, just not really good. 

[QUOTE="krp008"]I can't believe how fanboyish some people can be! I was over at the bungie.nete forums and people are stating that "The Beta's graphics are some of the best ive ever seen!!". I mean, i love the Beta to death. Ive played over 100 games, the gameplay is incredible, but the graphics are pretty terrible. Here is a thread hyping the graphics. Come on! If you don't complain about them, Bungie won't have the need to improve them!GazzaB

The graphics are terrible? I dont think so. Take another look. Theyre good, just not really good. 

I would say they are Really Good, just not Spectacular.  But then again, Its a Beta, Its Multiplayer, Its 5 months before release.  Ask any developer...  one of the final things they do in a game is tweak performance and graphics.

But put the graphics to the side...  the game is astoundingly fun!

Anyone know where to get map layouts?  (pics, drawings, etc.)

~-~So far it's too much like Halo 2. If they don't fix that then this isn't going to be AAA.~-~The_PirateKing

:?Your logic makes no sense. Halo 2 was AAA. While Halo 3 is like Halo 2 (obviously, it is a sequel to it), it is improved and is actually more similar to Halo:CE. Play the Halo 3 beta for about an hour, then pop in Halo 2 and play that. Then you'll see what i mean. 

[QUOTE="The_PirateKing"]~-~So far it's too much like Halo 2. If they don't fix that then this isn't going to be AAA.~-~GazzaB

:?Your logic makes no sense. Halo 2 was AAA. While Halo 3 is like Halo 2 (obviously, it is a sequel to it), it is improved and is actually more similar to Halo:CE. Play the Halo 3 beta for about an hour, then pop in Halo 2 and play that. Then you'll see what i mean. 

woah halo 3 has 3d skies!

http://n4g.com/xbox360/News-41665.aspx

[QUOTE="GazzaB"]

[QUOTE="The_PirateKing"]~-~So far it's too much like Halo 2. If they don't fix that then this isn't going to be AAA.~-~The_PirateKing

:?Your logic makes no sense. Halo 2 was AAA. While Halo 3 is like Halo 2 (obviously, it is a sequel to it), it is improved and is actually more similar to Halo:CE. Play the Halo 3 beta for about an hour, then pop in Halo 2 and play that. Then you'll see what i mean. 

this is just the multiplayer. there was never going to be alot of change to it because alot of people were happy were happy with it in the previous game. the single player however is going to be a big improvement over halo 2. already bungie have mentioned huge battles, smart and fun ai, and very big battlefields.

woah halo 3 has 3d skies!

http://n4g.com/xbox360/News-41665.aspx

butterob

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halo kicks so much ass we had to have 3 threads.

the haters have been destroyed.

CaseyWegner

umm...no. half of them were bashing the game. the only reason there's a sticky is because self control is severely lacking here.

I thought that we had to check that at the door? 

you need to see these 2 movies. a guy takes the banshee for a stroll, not can you fly past that huge lake in valhalla but you can go up... very high. the 3d clouds are indeed present in the beta, not just that but the higher you go the darker the sky gets and even stars become visible. in the second vid he manages to break out of the second layer of cloud and is in space.

my jaw literally dropped when i saw this. when he looks down he can still see valhalla fully rendered but its so tiny. i knew bungie was going to have huge open areas in the single player and that they were messing with technology that changes sky depending on whats goin on (like having multiple vehicles on fire would make the sky go darker because of the smoke) but i never expected them to put it in multiplayer.

movie 1 http://youtube.com/watch?v=0KvQw2YQLd0

movie 2 http://youtube.com/watch?v=aFnbhQU0lcY&mode=user&search=

you need to see these 2 movies. a guy takes the banshee for a stroll, not can you fly past that huge lake in valhalla but you can go up... very high. the 3d clouds are indeed present in the beta, not just that but the higher you go the darker the sky gets and even stars become visible. in the second vid he manages to break out of the second layer of cloud and is in space.

my jaw literally dropped when i saw this. when he looks down he can still see valhalla fully rendered but its so tiny. i knew bungie was going to have huge open areas in the single player and that they were messing with technology that changes sky depending on whats goin on (like having multiple vehicles on fire would make the sky go darker because of the smoke) but i never expected them to put it in multiplayer.

movie 1 http://youtube.com/watch?v=0KvQw2YQLd0

movie 2 http://youtube.com/watch?v=aFnbhQU0lcY&mode=user&search=

mirlegend

Wouldn't it be cool if we could take a dropship down to a planet in realtime. 

[QUOTE="mirlegend"]

you need to see these 2 movies. a guy takes the banshee for a stroll, not can you fly past that huge lake in valhalla but you can go up... very high. the 3d clouds are indeed present in the beta, not just that but the higher you go the darker the sky gets and even stars become visible. in the second vid he manages to break out of the second layer of cloud and is in space.

my jaw literally dropped when i saw this. when he looks down he can still see valhalla fully rendered but its so tiny. i knew bungie was going to have huge open areas in the single player and that they were messing with technology that changes sky depending on whats goin on (like having multiple vehicles on fire would make the sky go darker because of the smoke) but i never expected them to put it in multiplayer.

movie 1 http://youtube.com/watch?v=0KvQw2YQLd0

movie 2 http://youtube.com/watch?v=aFnbhQU0lcY&mode=user&search=

Norule04

Wouldn't it be cool if we could take a dropship down to a planet in realtime. 

yeah that would be cool. infact il be suprised if thats not the case with the area bungie has to work with.

what is the highest max. players this game will support online?solidgamer

bungie are sticking to 16.

Wow, that sky stuff is cool! Think of the possibilites in the campaign!! Could turely be epic!GazzaB

it could also be cool if they made banshee only matches. with the scale they can achieve now im sure its not out of reach.

[QUOTE="solidgamer"]what is the highest max. players this game will support online?mirlegend

bungie are sticking to 16.

ahhhh it would be nice if we could have a 32 mass brawl that would be fun 

[QUOTE="mirlegend"]

[QUOTE="solidgamer"]what is the highest max. players this game will support online?solidgamer

bungie are sticking to 16.

ahhhh it would be nice if we could have a 32 mass brawl that would be fun 

im happy that they stuck with 16. its pretty much the sweet spot for halo and even then most gamesare only 4v4.

[QUOTE="solidgamer"][QUOTE="mirlegend"]

[QUOTE="solidgamer"]what is the highest max. players this game will support online?mirlegend

bungie are sticking to 16.

ahhhh it would be nice if we could have a 32 mass brawl that would be fun

im happy that they stuck with 16. its pretty much the sweet spot for halo and even then most gamesare only 4v4.

Yeah, i mean alot of people even think 8v8 is too big. We all know Big Team Battle isnt one of the more popular playlists.