Official Halo 3 Discussion Thread (round 3)

[QUOTE="mirlegend"][QUOTE="solidgamer"][QUOTE="mirlegend"]

[QUOTE="solidgamer"]what is the highest max. players this game will support online?GazzaB

bungie are sticking to 16.

ahhhh it would be nice if we could have a 32 mass brawl that would be fun

im happy that they stuck with 16. its pretty much the sweet spot for halo and even then most gamesare only 4v4.

Yeah, i mean alot of people even think 8v8 is too big. We all know Big Team Battle isnt one of the more popular playlists. 

btb can be good providing you actually get put on a decent map with vehicles. i hate when you get dropped into places like lockout or other small maps when its 8vs8.

well i would love to see halo 3 SP and MP with a darker feeling.it has to many colors,im not saying is bad i just would love to see something more sinister than previous installments.because in my opinion valhalla feels like teletubies going badass.they should use different colors instead of blue and red for matchmaking maybe black and green or grey or something like that.OldParr

Thats the Halo 3 Enigine, remaining true to Halo. Halo isn't Gears, its going to have less bright environments, but there won't be any like in Gears.

you need to see these 2 movies. a guy takes the banshee for a stroll, not can you fly past that huge lake in valhalla but you can go up... very high. the 3d clouds are indeed present in the beta, not just that but the higher you go the darker the sky gets and even stars become visible. in the second vid he manages to break out of the second layer of cloud and is in space.

my jaw literally dropped when i saw this. when he looks down he can still see valhalla fully rendered but its so tiny. i knew bungie was going to have huge open areas in the single player and that they were messing with technology that changes sky depending on whats goin on (like having multiple vehicles on fire would make the sky go darker because of the smoke) but i never expected them to put it in multiplayer.

movie 1 http://youtube.com/watch?v=0KvQw2YQLd0

movie 2 http://youtube.com/watch?v=aFnbhQU0lcY&mode=user&search=

mirlegend

:o OMG, that is a promising find. If this is actually a feature in the single-player; then it truely will be an "epic" experience. I doubt we'd be free to go above the skies as we please in the campaign; it's just too hard for Bungie to control.

Anyway, this deserves it's own thread man. I can't believe hardly anyone's talking about this.

[QUOTE="mirlegend"]

you need to see these 2 movies. a guy takes the banshee for a stroll, not can you fly past that huge lake in valhalla but you can go up... very high. the 3d clouds are indeed present in the beta, not just that but the higher you go the darker the sky gets and even stars become visible. in the second vid he manages to break out of the second layer of cloud and is in space.

my jaw literally dropped when i saw this. when he looks down he can still see valhalla fully rendered but its so tiny. i knew bungie was going to have huge open areas in the single player and that they were messing with technology that changes sky depending on whats goin on (like having multiple vehicles on fire would make the sky go darker because of the smoke) but i never expected them to put it in multiplayer.

movie 1 http://youtube.com/watch?v=0KvQw2YQLd0

movie 2 http://youtube.com/watch?v=aFnbhQU0lcY&mode=user&search=

kankthetank

:o OMG, that is a promising find. If this is actually a feature in the single-player; then it truely will be an "epic" experience. I doubt we'd be free to go above the skies as we please in the campaign; it's just too hard for Bungie to control.

Anyway, this deserves it's own thread man. I can't believe hardly anyone's talking about this.

:o :o :o "Sky's the limit" just took on a whole new meaning 

[QUOTE="OldParr"]well i would love to see halo 3 SP and MP with a darker feeling.it has to many colors,im not saying is bad i just would love to see something more sinister than previous installments.because in my opinion valhalla feels like teletubies going badass.they should use different colors instead of blue and red for matchmaking maybe black and green or grey or something like that.Bansheesdie

Thats the Halo 3 Enigine, remaining true to Halo. Halo isn't Gears, its going to have less bright environments, but there won't be any like in Gears.

i never said it has to look like gears.i said something different.how about something like the E3 trailer im not saying the graphix cause people here already admit complete downgrade but the trailer gives a dark feeling about the game

i never said it has to look like gears.i said something different.how about something like the E3 trailer im not saying the graphix cause people here already admit complete downgrade but the trailer gives a dark feeling about the gameOldParr

I only used Gears as an example of a "dark" game. If you want a more darkish tone then I would expect to see that more in the campaign then in the multiplayer. We've only seen three small areas and can't accurately presume about the remainder of the game.

I just thought. Why didn't they add any new multiplayer models? They could have put marines and brutes or jackels or grunts.

Infact why not add them add and have different skills? Grunts smaller and harder to hit but weaker, hunters big slow but powerful, jackels can have their shield but only single handed weapons.

For humans they could have added marines, SPARTAN III's with weaker armour and shields but clocking ability and a feral rage attack when weak(read the lastest book) and maybe a new type of marine or officers something like that.

Why just leave the basic ones in they could have changed multiplayer to be WAY better but just left it ok. = darklord888

This is a beta were Bungie purposelly left out a lot of material. What your getting is a taste of the multiplayer, not the entire 4-course meal.

I just thought. Why didn't they add any new multiplayer models? They could have put marines and brutes or jackels or grunts.

Infact why not add them add and have different skills? Grunts smaller and harder to hit but weaker, hunters big slow but powerful, jackels can have their shield but only single handed weapons.

For humans they could have added marines, SPARTAN III's with weaker armour and shields but clocking ability and a feral rage attack when weak(read the lastest book) and maybe a new type of marine or officers something like that.

Why just leave the basic ones in they could have changed multiplayer to be WAY better but just left it ok. = darklord888

halo multiplayer is not a cla$$ based game. doing something like that could anger alot of the fans.

[QUOTE="darklord888"]I just thought. Why didn't they add any new multiplayer models? They could have put marines and brutes or jackels or grunts.

Infact why not add them add and have different skills? Grunts smaller and harder to hit but weaker, hunters big slow but powerful, jackels can have their shield but only single handed weapons.

For humans they could have added marines, SPARTAN III's with weaker armour and shields but clocking ability and a feral rage attack when weak(read the lastest book) and maybe a new type of marine or officers something like that.

Why just leave the basic ones in they could have changed multiplayer to be WAY better but just left it ok. = mirlegend

halo multiplayer is not a cla$$ based game. doing something like that could anger alot of the fans.

Well I finally rented Crackdown so that I can play the H3 beta (got a free trial for Blockbuster's online service, which includes a free in-store game or movie rental... so I get it for the freeee :) ) and I must say, this game is FUN.  My roomate and I played for 7 hours STRAIGHT... it's so addictive and so much more fun than Halo 2, which used to piss me off more than actually being fun.  Reminds me of Halo CE, but so much better.  I will definitely be picking this game up on day 1 when it comes out in stores.

 My biggest complaint right now is that when playing split-screen on a HDTV, the gameplay windows don't take up the entire screen.  There are black bars on the left and right for some reason... is it for aspect ratio or something?  I hope when the game ships, playing splitscreen on the HDTV will allow us to use the full TV.

 Hope Bungie mixes up the gametypes for the playlist some too, but I'm sure they are constantly tweaking this as we speak.  

[QUOTE="mirlegend"]

[QUOTE="darklord888"]I just thought. Why didn't they add any new multiplayer models? They could have put marines and brutes or jackels or grunts.

Infact why not add them add and have different skills? Grunts smaller and harder to hit but weaker, hunters big slow but powerful, jackels can have their shield but only single handed weapons.

For humans they could have added marines, SPARTAN III's with weaker armour and shields but clocking ability and a feral rage attack when weak(read the lastest book) and maybe a new type of marine or officers something like that.

Why just leave the basic ones in they could have changed multiplayer to be WAY better but just left it ok. = darklord888

halo multiplayer is not a cla$$ based game. doing something like that could anger alot of the fans.

Bad idea. Elites, possibly Brutes will be playable multiplayer forms, but all will be balanced because thats fair. And the multiplayer has already changed with the use of equipment. Lets make judgements after we play the final game, because Bungie have left out other gameplay elements as well as maps, guns, vehicles etc. from the beta. 

Things turned out the way that I thought they would... Halo 3 is more of the same, but that is fine with me.smokeydabear076

Dude its only the Beta. Bungie said they only allowed us to play the "average Halo" gameplay in the Beta. Theres more that arnt in the Beta and some that are still secret, from features, game modes, weapons, vehicles, etc.

And no auto-aim = not "more of the same"

[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]Things turned out the way that I thought they would... Halo 3 is more of the same, but that is fine with me.krp008

Dude its only the Beta. Bungie said they only allowed us to play the "average Halo" gameplay in the Beta. Theres more that arnt in the Beta and some that are still secret, from features, game modes, weapons, vehicles, etc.

And no auto-aim = not "more of the same"

im a little disappointed.

hopefully Bungie can clean up A LOT of things in 3 months

i have confidence in them 

I just thought. Why didn't they add any new multiplayer models? They could have put marines and brutes or jackels or grunts.

Infact why not add them add and have different skills? Grunts smaller and harder to hit but weaker, hunters big slow but powerful, jackels can have their shield but only single handed weapons.

For humans they could have added marines, SPARTAN III's with weaker armour and shields but clocking ability and a feral rage attack when weak(read the lastest book) and maybe a new type of marine or officers something like that.

Why just leave the basic ones in they could have changed multiplayer to be WAY better but just left it ok. = darklord888

I would actually hate that. Brute Force had it and messed up the balance.  

i preordered the legendary edition. dissonantblack

As did I 

watch this Halo 3 video of a Banshee going into Space.friggin sick!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN2u1nCtvz4

Things I've learned since playing HALO3 beta. 1: Great players use the term rape for everything. The needler is rape. The banshee is rape. This was rape. That was rape. 2: The needler is rape. I avoided using it just like a lot of other people untiL I realized its rape. The slight targeting thing it has and the amount of damage it does makes it an excellent weapon for medium to close range combat. It takes forever to reload though.JiveT

The Needler reloads in about a half a second....

[QUOTE="JiveT"]Things I've learned since playing HALO3 beta. 1: Great players use the term rape for everything. The needler is rape. The banshee is rape. This was rape. That was rape. 2: The needler is rape. I avoided using it just like a lot of other people untiL I realized its rape. The slight targeting thing it has and the amount of damage it does makes it an excellent weapon for medium to close range combat. It takes forever to reload though.Bansheesdie

The Needler reloads in about a half a second....

It seems to me it takes longer to reload than almost anything besides the rocket launcher. Its got to be longer than half a second. The spikes retract it makes some sound then they pop back up and it makes another sound then its ready to go.

[QUOTE="dissonantblack"]i preordered the legendary edition. Bansheesdie

As did I 

So did I.

Custom armour types coming to Halo 3?

http://xbox360.qj.net/RUMOR-Diversified-armor-types-in-Halo-3/pg/49/aid/93691 

It seems that the rumor mill is working on overtime churning out more Halo 3 speculations. Here's another one from the 7th Columnist: custom armor types.

Reportedly, the 7th Columnist guys scoured through the Halo 3 beta source codes and found "customization options for multiplayer characters" that a lot of players would find interesting. According to the report, there will be different models other than Spartan and Elite. There will also be other customization options than just color and emblem changes.

They found four different types of armor for Spartan multiplayer: Cobra, Intruder, Ninja, and Regulator. They reported that these armor types are basically "in parts" - think action figures that have parts that are sold separately. They spotted helmets, left and right shoulders, and body parts. They concluded that players would be able to mix and match the different armor types to build their own custom Spartan.

This is not limited to the Spartan models and is applicable to the Elite as well. Elites would have fewer choices between the Predator, Raptor, and the default armor.

For now, we'll put this in the rumors folder while we wait for confirmation from Bungie.

It'd be kind of cool if Bungie made a new, but separate Halo 3 gametype where it was something like SW: Battlefront 2. Where you would either pick the Covenent or the Humans and you could pick the different kind of classes like Jackals, Elites, etc. And then when you do good enough, instead of being able to be a Jedi in Battlefront 2, you would be able to momentarily play as the MC or the Arbiter depending on what side you are on (but with the Covenent civil war, I'm not sure how this would work...).

I think it'd be pretty neat, but as I said, it would be a separate gametype that wouldn't replace the main gametypes like Slayer, it would just be something different...

It'd be kind of cool if Bungie made a new, but separate Halo 3 gametype where it was something like SW: Battlefront 2. Where you would either pick the Covenent or the Humans and you could pick the different kind of classes like Jackals, Elites, etc. And then when you do good enough, instead of being able to be a Jedi in Battlefront 2, you would be able to momentarily play as the MC or the Arbiter depending on what side you are on.

I think it'd be pretty neat, but as I said, it would be a separate gametype that wouldn't replace the main gametypes like Slayer, it would just be something different...

 

Baird-06

It could happen. New gametypes such as Infection have already been pretty much confirmed. 

[QUOTE="Baird-06"]

It'd be kind of cool if Bungie made a new, but separate Halo 3 gametype where it was something like SW: Battlefront 2. Where you would either pick the Covenent or the Humans and you could pick the different kind of classes like Jackals, Elites, etc. And then when you do good enough, instead of being able to be a Jedi in Battlefront 2, you would be able to momentarily play as the MC or the Arbiter depending on what side you are on.

I think it'd be pretty neat, but as I said, it would be a separate gametype that wouldn't replace the main gametypes like Slayer, it would just be something different...

 

GazzaB

It could happen. New gametypes such as Infection have already been pretty much confirmed.

Infection? What is that? It sounds to me like some kind of official Zombies gametype or something along the lines that they did in PDZ. 

[QUOTE="GazzaB"][QUOTE="Baird-06"]

It'd be kind of cool if Bungie made a new, but separate Halo 3 gametype where it was something like SW: Battlefront 2. Where you would either pick the Covenent or the Humans and you could pick the different kind of classes like Jackals, Elites, etc. And then when you do good enough, instead of being able to be a Jedi in Battlefront 2, you would be able to momentarily play as the MC or the Arbiter depending on what side you are on.

I think it'd be pretty neat, but as I said, it would be a separate gametype that wouldn't replace the main gametypes like Slayer, it would just be something different...

 

Baird-06

It could happen. New gametypes such as Infection have already been pretty much confirmed.

Infection? What is that? It sounds to me like some kind of official Zombies gametype or something along the lines that they did in PDZ.

Yeah, basically Zombies from Halo 2.

Although i did read something interesting that when you are infected, you spawn as a flood host. That sounded very cool, but whether its true or not, i dont know. 

[QUOTE="Bansheesdie"]

[QUOTE="dissonantblack"]i preordered the legendary edition. eastside49er

As did I

So did I.

[QUOTE="Baird-06"][QUOTE="GazzaB"][QUOTE="Baird-06"]

It'd be kind of cool if Bungie made a new, but separate Halo 3 gametype where it was something like SW: Battlefront 2. Where you would either pick the Covenent or the Humans and you could pick the different kind of classes like Jackals, Elites, etc. And then when you do good enough, instead of being able to be a Jedi in Battlefront 2, you would be able to momentarily play as the MC or the Arbiter depending on what side you are on.

I think it'd be pretty neat, but as I said, it would be a separate gametype that wouldn't replace the main gametypes like Slayer, it would just be something different...

 

GazzaB

It could happen. New gametypes such as Infection have already been pretty much confirmed.

Infection? What is that? It sounds to me like some kind of official Zombies gametype or something along the lines that they did in PDZ.

Yeah, basically Zombies from Halo 2.

Although i did read something interesting that when you are infected, you spawn as a flood host. That sounded very cool, but whether its true or not, i dont know. 

infection eh? is that like the timesplitters one where a few are infected and they need to touch you and the last guy who isnt infected wins??

[QUOTE="GazzaB"][QUOTE="Baird-06"][QUOTE="GazzaB"][QUOTE="Baird-06"]

It'd be kind of cool if Bungie made a new, but separate Halo 3 gametype where it was something like SW: Battlefront 2. Where you would either pick the Covenent or the Humans and you could pick the different kind of classes like Jackals, Elites, etc. And then when you do good enough, instead of being able to be a Jedi in Battlefront 2, you would be able to momentarily play as the MC or the Arbiter depending on what side you are on.

I think it'd be pretty neat, but as I said, it would be a separate gametype that wouldn't replace the main gametypes like Slayer, it would just be something different...

 

butterob

It could happen. New gametypes such as Infection have already been pretty much confirmed.

Infection? What is that? It sounds to me like some kind of official Zombies gametype or something along the lines that they did in PDZ.

Yeah, basically Zombies from Halo 2.

Although i did read something interesting that when you are infected, you spawn as a flood host. That sounded very cool, but whether its true or not, i dont know. 

infection eh? is that like the timesplitters one where a few are infected and they need to touch you and the last guy who isnt infected wins??

WHo thinks this game will get an over inflated score like Gears of War did?

[QUOTE="Raidea"][QUOTE="Killer2401"]

Qs for fanboys....

1.Name a game for PS3 that has 4 player split-screen. Haze

2.How about 16 players lan and online. Resistance

3.A game that is so customisable you can create your own gametypes. Resistancekrp008

I mean, I'm not even a PS3 fan and I can answer those questions...

1. Haze isnt out yet

2. Resistance sucks 

Really? But how many PS3s do you need for lan?

And I can't go to school and say "anyone up for a Resistance lan party?"

I can say that about Halo though and have a ton of poeple to play aginst.

[QUOTE="krp008"][QUOTE="Raidea"][QUOTE="Killer2401"]

Qs for fanboys....

1.Name a game for PS3 that has 4 player split-screen. Haze

2.How about 16 players lan and online. Resistance

3.A game that is so customisable you can create your own gametypes. ResistanceKiller2401

I mean, I'm not even a PS3 fan and I can answer those questions...

1. Haze isnt out yet

2. Resistance sucks 

Really? But how many PS3s do you need for lan?

And I can't go to school and say "anyone up for a Resistance lan party?"

I can say that about Halo though and have a ton of poeple to play aginst.

I guess in the case of Halo 2.  Flyies like shet.  Always one around it.

WHo thinks this game will get an over inflated score like Gears of War did?caseypayne69

Halo 3 is going be better then Combat Evolved I think, with better multiplayer then Halo 2. GS, among others, called Combat Evolved "easily one of the best shooters ever, on any platform.", and said Halo 2 has some of the best multiplayer.

I personally enjoyed Gears, very much, and I thought it deserved both the 9.6 and GOTY. AIAS also gave it to Gears, their  like the Academy Awards of video games.

[QUOTE="caseypayne69"]WHo thinks this game will get an over inflated score like Gears of War did?Bansheesdie

Halo 3 is going be better then Combat Evolved I think, with better multiplayer then Halo 2. GS, among others, called Combat Evolved "easily one of the best shooters ever, on any platform.", and said Halo 2 has some of the best multiplayer.

I personally enjoyed Gears, very much, and I thought it deserved both the 9.6 and GOTY. AIAS also gave it to Gears, their  like the Academy Awards of video games.

Halo 2 was fun for a bit.  I bought a used xbox just to play it.  I just get sick of respawn based gaming.  I guess thats why I like games like Socom that force you to want to survive or wait to the next round.

Halo 2 was fun for a bit.  I bought a used xbox just to play it.  I just get sick of respawn based gaming.  I guess thats why I like games like Socom that force you to want to survive or wait to the next round.caseypayne69

Fair enough, but Halo isn't that type of game.

Someone managed to start a custom game. here we see the team mode called escort (looks abit like protect the pimp from Saints Row) and the new pistol. Enjoy :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSZrN_5ZROw

As far as the LE version goes with the helmet.  How come they didn't create the helmet to fit on the avg persons head.  And have wireless mic capability in it?  Just an idea.  So we could see all the Halo followers with their cute little headsets on talkin on mics while playing.  :)caseypayne69

why on earth would you want a sweaty helmet on while playing an online game? besides your voice would sound all distorted with it on.

Everything is going fine so far.  I've reported the few issues I've seen at bungie.net and have ensured I'll never play some of the rude beings that reside on Halo MP.  Seems to be shaping up pretty good.  Only game mode I don't see myself ever touching is 2v2.  jdknight21

Yeah, that's a pretty specialized mode. Though, I'm pretty fond of it myself. Though you don't get nearly as many "mop up" kills as you would in a bigger game.

As far as the LE version goes with the helmet.  How come they didn't create the helmet to fit on the avg persons head.  And have wireless mic capability in it?  Just an idea.  So we could see all the Halo followers with their cute little headsets on talkin on mics while playing.  :)caseypayne69

lmao how nerdy would it be to be playing in a mc helmet...anyone care to do a bit of photoshopping so we can see what it would look like on a nerd lol

[QUOTE="jdknight21"]Everything is going fine so far.  I've reported the few issues I've seen at bungie.net and have ensured I'll never play some of the rude beings that reside on Halo MP.  Seems to be shaping up pretty good.  Only game mode I don't see myself ever touching is 2v2.  musicalmac

Yeah, that's a pretty specialized mode. Though, I'm pretty fond of it myself. Though you don't get nearly as many "mop up" kills as you would in a bigger game.

It isn't a bad mode.  I just don't enjoy it because of certain circumstances.  1 other thing I noticed, yesterday was the first day I've ever noticed bad lag on the game and my connection was the best it has been in awhile.  Guessing I just got in some games where they gave host to someone with a shoddy connection but didn't anyone else notice it?  It was really odd how off the shots were in half the games.  First time I have seen the beta teter into GoW lag category.

Search around for more videos of cutsom gametypes. The VIP mode looks really, really cool. That's probably the one I'm excited about most.

Search around for more videos of cutsom gametypes. The VIP mode looks really, really cool. That's probably the one I'm excited about most.

musicalmac

So there is a VIP mode like 'ESCORT' or something that is different from the VIP gametype you can play already?  I really like VIP mode in the beta.

Search around for more videos of cutsom gametypes. The VIP mode looks really, really cool. That's probably the one I'm excited about most.musicalmac

VIP is a lame gametype.

[QUOTE="musicalmac"] Search around for more videos of cutsom gametypes. The VIP mode looks really, really cool. That's probably the one I'm excited about most.Bansheesdie

VIP is a lame gametype.

Your reasoning is flawless ( ;) ).

Why do you feel that way, seriously?