Official Xbox 720 Rumours Discussion: Blu-ray, Kinect 2, and No-used Games

I doubt they'll use Blu-ray, isn't that a Sony trademark? Maybe they'll create a new type of Media like they're doing with the Wii-U.

tjricardo089

I doubt they'll use Blu-ray, isn't that a Sony trademark? tjricardo089

No used games...doubtful. It would be really hard to do unless you enter a code every time you put a new game on the system. People aren't going to put up with that crap.

coasterguy65

People are complaining about not having used games then they realized that the PC always had this.XenogearsMaster

It would effect you whether you like or not. For it not to effect you then you would have to buy every game at launch.rasengan2552

I don't usually come to Microsoft's defense, but in this case, it is warranted. I remember back before the PS3 launched there were a ton of rumors that it would not be able to play used games. It was an unsubstantiated rumor but it freaked a lot of people out. I'm going to take this with a big spoonful of salt.

. I'm going to take this with a big spoonful of salt.Shewgenja

but yeah its gotta be BS.

Sadly, I don't see MS being the only company adopting account linking for games. I wouldn't be surprised to see Sony and Nintendo do the same thing.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]"No-used games?" Yeah, no thanks, MS.CaseyWegner

it would be like pc gaming these days.

Only MS would have a monopoly on the price. There's more than one DD service for pc.

Blocking used games is the sh*ttyest idea i've seen in 15 years of gaming. WHAT THE F*CK MS?!

Highly doubt it.

Why all of a sudden?

I've been playing used games during the glory days of mom&pop video stores and Blockbuster Video. And nobody, not even developers were complaining about it. Even though I prefer my games brand new, used games gives gamers the opportunity to catch up on older games no longer available brand new at retail.

Just take it with a grain of salt, guys.

No used game sales? Sounds like they want to create a whole new crop of console pirates. This oughta be interesting.

Definitely wont be buying if true.

No used game sales? Sounds like they want to create a whole new crop of console pirates. This oughta be interesting.

Brendissimo35

Maybe there will be no more online passes, but instead a code to play online that is tied to xboxlive which is only for new copies.

[QUOTE="Brendissimo35"]

No used game sales? Sounds like they want to create a whole new crop of console pirates. This oughta be interesting.

PurpleMan5000

Well that too, but as I understand it, the reason why a lot of console games don't pirate is not necesarially because they don't know how (they might and many probably do pirate movies, tv, music, etc., like a vast number of people these days), but that they don't have a reason to, since it's easier to borrow a copy than to pirate on a console. Take that ease away, and you'll have more piracy.

Blu-ray and Kinect 2 were pretty much guarenteed.

However the no-used games is probably not going to happen. Aftermarket game sales drive console sales.

Wasdie

lemmings are sh!tting themselves over a rumor!

my god this is hilarious.

Thats about as stupid as charging you to play your already bought game online.........oh wait :lol:

I heard on IGN as well that it is rumored to be 6 times more powerful, but who knows yet. I find it funny at Lems who always downplayed Blu Ray and said it was useless, well guess what? You guys are idiots! You'll love it and Blu Ray and it is the industry STANDARD ever since the PS3 introduced it. I am a bit surpiesed by the no used games idea, the only way they could do this would be to use product codes like PC or as someone else said, tieit to their XBL account (which will probably be even more of a rip off next gen then it is now)

Either way that is downright stupid and it will put many used game stores out of business which means less jobs, andthat means that you can't share them with your friends or family or sell it if you don't like it, basically you don't really "own" anything.I expect Sony to do something similar but more with online pass. Let's just hope that the next Xbox is more than just Kinect 2.0 and actually has some good games instead of the crap that MS is throwing out for the 360.

All I can say is that Ipray to God that the "no used games" policy isn't true because it if is then there is no way in hell I would be buying the next Xbox system!

lemmings are sh!tting themselves over a rumor!

my god this is hilarious.

ReadingRainbow4

1st the Radeon HD 6670 & now no more used games... Like I mentioned before, I don't know if this just bad luck or karma for those Vita FAIL/Sony is Doomed threads. I don't believe this for a second, but if this sh1t happens and WORKS, I see Sony and Nintendo following suit as well..

Blu-ray will happen. Kinect 2.0 integrated in the system will probably happen.

No used games...doubtful. It would be really hard to do unless you enter a code every time you put a new game on the system. People aren't going to put up with that crap. Sure once in awhile no big deal, but with every game. All MS would be doing is shooting themselves in the foot. I know lots of people who only buy used games.

coasterguy65

Funny, people said the same thing about XBL fees and they said it again when rumors (rumors that turned out to be true) were going around that they were going to raise the price of Gold, and did people put up with that crap? Yes, yes they did.

[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

Blu-ray will happen. Kinect 2.0 integrated in the system will probably happen.

No used games...doubtful. It would be really hard to do unless you enter a code every time you put a new game on the system. People aren't going to put up with that crap. Sure once in awhile no big deal, but with every game. All MS would be doing is shooting themselves in the foot. I know lots of people who only buy used games.

ShadowMoses900

Funny, people said the same thing about XBL fees and they said it again when rumors were going around that they were going to raise the price of Gold, and did people put up with that crap? Yes, yes they did.

And it always would annoy me hearing the "if you don't like it don't buy it" attitude that they all had. As if the people against weren't being affected.

It actually kinda-sorta makes sense. XBL and digital distribution are going to be an even bigger focus next gen for MS, so it's concievable that they would go to a Steam-type system where any game you buy is tied to your account. You'd lose the ability to buy used or trade games, but you'd gain the ability to redownload your game whenever and wherever you want (and, potentially, the ability to buy a multiplat on Xbox and play it on PC as well).

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

Blu-ray will happen. Kinect 2.0 integrated in the system will probably happen.

No used games...doubtful. It would be really hard to do unless you enter a code every time you put a new game on the system. People aren't going to put up with that crap. Sure once in awhile no big deal, but with every game. All MS would be doing is shooting themselves in the foot. I know lots of people who only buy used games.

Heirren

Funny, people said the same thing about XBL fees and they said it again when rumors were going around that they were going to raise the price of Gold, and did people put up with that crap? Yes, yes they did.

And it always would annoy me hearing the "if you don't like it don't buy it" attitude that they all had. As if the people against weren't being affected.

The XBL fee is one of the biggest rip offs in the industry and it just gives others an excuse to do the same. I honestly believe that if XBL was free then we wouldhave never seen over priced map packs or Games on Demand or day 1 DLC or any of that other crap that sh!itty devs get away with. And what's worse is watching as some people try and defend this, they puta giant corporation ahead of their own best interestes.

I try to avoid talking about XBL anymore because so many people try so hard to defend it and I just feel bad about it. There is asolutely ZERO reason for MS to charge you, it's just P2P over your own internet. Lems can hide behind cross game chat and parties all they want to, but I can gurantee you that if MS let Silver members play online for FREE most of these Lems would drop Gold and just stick with Silver. I doubt they care about cross chat and parties as much as they say they do, it's not worth paying for and they know it, especially at $60.

That's why PSN will always be better than XBL for the sole reason thatit's FREE, which is the main function of an online gaming service, to let you play your games over your own internet.

Kinect 2 needs to be built-in.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Funny, people said the same thing about XBL fees and they said it again when rumors were going around that they were going to raise the price of Gold, and did people put up with that crap? Yes, yes they did.

ShadowMoses900

And it always would annoy me hearing the "if you don't like it don't buy it" attitude that they all had. As if the people against weren't being affected.

The XBL fee is one of the biggest rip offs in the industry and it just gives others an excuse to do the same. I honestly believe that if XBL was free then we wouldhave never seen over priced map packs or Games on Demand or day 1 DLC or any of that other crap that sh!itty devs get away with. And what's worse is watching as some people try and defend this, they puta giant corporation ahead of their own best interestes.

I try to avoid talking about XBL anymore because so many people try so hard to defend it and I just feel bad about it. There is asolutely ZERO reason for MS to charge you, it's just P2P over your own internet. Lems can hide behind cross game chat and parties all they want to, but I can gurantee you that if MS let Silver members play online for FREE most of these Lems would drop Gold and just stick with Silver. I doubt they care about cross chat and parties as much as they say they do, it's not worth paying for and they know it, especially at $60.

That's why PSN will always be better than XBL for the sole reason thatit's FREE, which is the main function of an online gaming service, to let you play your games over your own internet.

I've been on it since the beginning. The original box said things along the lines of "get free content". The advertising made it seem as though the downloads would be included in the $50 price tag. And lets be fair, it takes some money to get a service like that started.

Thats about as stupid as charging you to play your already bought game online.........oh wait :lol:

Syn_Valence

This

alot of lems in here saying "MS isn't that stupid" yet paying to play games online is stupid and lemmings have been doing it for 2 gens now. No, MS isn't stupid but they have found out that most of their fans are. It's only natural for MS to test the limits of their fans stupidity by seeing what they can get away with. I could totally see MS doing this because lemmings have supported everything they have done in the past.

Just look at how lems rabidly defend paying for XBL, a service that every other gamer gets for free. This is what gives MS the confidence to try something like this.

This is actually quite comical, lemmings :o No way will MS do dat...NO WAY!

lemmings are sh!tting themselves over a rumor!

my god this is hilarious.

ReadingRainbow4

considering how dev's are trying to push against used games, it wouldnt come as any surprise if this happened.

considering how dev's are trying to push against used games, it wouldnt come as any surprise if this happened.

razgriz_101

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

considering how dev's are trying to push against used games, it wouldnt come as any surprise if this happened.

Frostbite24

[QUOTE="Syn_Valence"]

Thats about as stupid as charging you to play your already bought game online.........oh wait :lol:

casharmy

This

alot of lems in here saying "MS isn't that stupid" yet paying to play games online is stupid and lemmings have been doing it for 2 gens now. No, MS isn't stupid but they have found out that most of their fans are. It's only natural for MS to test the limits of their fans stupidity by seeing what they can get away with. I could totally see MS doing this because lemmings have supported everything they have done in the past.

Just look at how lems rabidly defend paying for XBL, a service that every other gamer gets for free. This is what gives MS the confidence to try something like this.

This is actually quite comical, lemmings :o No way will MS do dat...NO WAY!

Yep you are right on the money,I said something similar aswell. If people honestly don't think MS won't try something like this they are being rediculousy naive, I remember when there were rumors going on around here that MS would be raising the price of Gold memberhsip and all these people were saying"it's just a rumor, MS isn't stupid, they won't do that" well guess what? We all know what happened. Those rumors turned out to be true, and you all put up with it and some of you poor idiots even tried to DEFEND it.

This is MS we are talking about here, you do realise what that means right? You guys put up with MS sh!t like XBL fees and lack of exclusives, so what's to stop MS from doing this? Nothing that's what, because they know you guys will just keep on taking their crap forever. You only have yourselves to blame for this.

It's the cold hard truth wether you want to admit it or not.

[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

considering how dev's are trying to push against used games, it wouldnt come as any surprise if this happened.

PurpleMan5000

ya companies keep trying to take away the rights from the consumer. I love having the freedom to trade games with friends or at stores. One thing i hate about pc is how little you can do with a game after your done with it. Thats one main reason why i hate DD. Unless the game is at a huge discount i rather buy a hard copy. But taking away freedom from us is not fair. Eb games and used game stores and rental services will be up in arms and might not even sell 720 stuff in protest.

dontshackzmii

That is a great point, if the now used game feature is true, I could see GameStop not selling Microsoft consoles and products and heavily promote the Wii-U and Playstation 4 instead, which would be a huge blow to the success of the system.

I instantly call BS on this article for the "No-Used" Games nonsense.

Half if not Most of the Xbox Community plays Used Games. That's some serious backlash waiting to happen.