Oh dear...Mass Effect sure does look...umm...different now...

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#1 AvIdGaMeR444
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Yeah, I know there are a million topics saying "Oh noez! Teh downgradez!"...but it's true.  Mass Effect looks to have been downgraded significantly if those pics posted a few days ago are any indication.  Oh well, I wasn't expecting great graphics from Bioware because of their track record, but the graphics barely look better than the 1st Xbox. :?
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Yeah, I know there are a million topics saying "Oh noez! Teh downgradez!"...but it's true. Mass Effect looks to have been downgraded significantly if those pics posted a few days ago are any indication. Oh well, I wasn't expecting great graphics from Bioware because of their track record, but the graphics barely look better than the 1st Xbox. :?AvIdGaMeR444
You've seen the million downgrade topics, but have you seen the millions of lemmings citing the developer's explanation for the aforementioned screenshots?
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April fools?
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I love cows.
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im still getting the game. but Mass Effect has been downgraded pretty badly . but oh well as long as th game play is good.
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Bioware already explain the pics were a mistake, and rushed in order to go with the article... but even then there's no way they look like Xbox games.
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Maybe it's just bad screens but those do really seemed to be downgraded, pretty dissapointing but hopefully the gameplay will make up for it. Comparing the textures on the armor and things like that are really where it's noticeable.
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Yeah, I know there are a million topics saying "Oh noez! Teh downgradez!"...but it's true.  Mass Effect looks to have been downgraded significantly if those pics posted a few days ago are any indication.  Oh well, I wasn't expecting great graphics from Bioware because of their track record, but the graphics barely look better than the 1st Xbox. :?AvIdGaMeR444
Bioware already talked about that. According to them some guy sent off some photos in a rush to make a deadline and they were rough work in progress type stuff, not anything to be considered as in game.
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I love cows.Choga
He could be a sheep or a hermit...
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Yeah, I know there are a million topics saying "Oh noez! Teh downgradez!"...but it's true.  Mass Effect looks to have been downgraded significantly if those pics posted a few days ago are any indication.  Oh well, I wasn't expecting great graphics from Bioware because of their track record, but the graphics barely look better than the 1st Xbox. :?AvIdGaMeR444
But the saddest thing is, everyones already seen gameplay of the game. And it looks amazing.
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New screenshots?  When did they come out?  Can i see?
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http://masseffect.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=556573&forum=104&sp=15

Those were taken from an unoptimized build of the game, and considering that the previous demos were all running on the hardware, why were there any doubts about quality in the first place? Fanboy propaganda.

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Those pics from Gamespy are from an old build.
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im still getting the game. but Mass Effect has been downgraded pretty badly . but oh well as long as th game play is good. alfy13
Yeah, I know there are a million topics saying "Oh noez! Teh downgradez!"...but it's true.  Mass Effect looks to have been downgraded significantly if those pics posted a few days ago are any indication.  Oh well, I wasn't expecting great graphics from Bioware because of their track record, but the graphics barely look better than the 1st Xbox. :?AvIdGaMeR444
It wasn't get over it, go see gameplay videos, ACTUAL gameplay, those pics were from an unoptimized build.
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[QUOTE="Choga"]I love cows.shungokustasu
He could be a sheep or a hermit...

It matters not, he is still a fanboy. Cow = lemming = sheep = hermit = fanboy. Or at least thats how I see it. 

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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="Choga"]I love cows.Choga

He could be a sheep or a hermit...

It matters not, he is still a fanboy. Cow = lemming = sheep = hermit = fanboy. Or at least thats how I see it. 

Love ur sig (this post was supported by my disgust against this thread)
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[QUOTE="Choga"]

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="Choga"]I love cows.-KinGz-

He could be a sheep or a hermit...

It matters not, he is still a fanboy. Cow = lemming = sheep = hermit = fanboy. Or at least thats how I see it.

Love ur sig (this post was supported by my disgust against this thread)

I also love my sig :D 

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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Yeah, I know there are a million topics saying "Oh noez! Teh downgradez!"...but it's true. Mass Effect looks to have been downgraded significantly if those pics posted a few days ago are any indication. Oh well, I wasn't expecting great graphics from Bioware because of their track record, but the graphics barely look better than the 1st Xbox. :?Tristam22
You've seen the million downgrade topics, but have you seen the millions of lemmings citing the developer's explanation for the aforementioned screenshots?

I have seen those topics....I also saw the same thing from developers of Killzone for PS3 trying to defend the graphics...and it is the consensus from most people that Killzone will be downgraded when it arrives.  So, when I read a developer quickly defending his title, a red flag goes up for me and I get very skeptical...because videogame developers in the past have lied time and time again about a game's graphics and/or a game's length, or what will be included in the game *cough* Fable *cough*. 

When a developer says a game is 70 hours long...it ends up being 25 to 30.  Developers of Kameo said that the graphics quality is that of a Pixar movie during their presentation....now Kameo looks great, and may even have the best Xbox 360 textures around, but Pixar quality?? No, just no. 

So, yeah, I will not believe a word out of a devs mouth until I actually play the game myself...because a response as quickly as Bioware's with the hint of "irritation" in the way it sounded seems like it might just very well be damage control.  After all, devs will say anything to get people to buy their games....

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I love all teh excusses from the lems :lol:
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Anyone who can read should know it wasn't downgraded, it's already been explained.
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I love all teh excusses from the lems :lol:ironwarrior2

You do realise that the gameplay footage does not look downgraded at all right? 

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[QUOTE="Tristam22"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Yeah, I know there are a million topics saying "Oh noez! Teh downgradez!"...but it's true. Mass Effect looks to have been downgraded significantly if those pics posted a few days ago are any indication. Oh well, I wasn't expecting great graphics from Bioware because of their track record, but the graphics barely look better than the 1st Xbox. :?AvIdGaMeR444

You've seen the million downgrade topics, but have you seen the millions of lemmings citing the developer's explanation for the aforementioned screenshots?

I have seen those topics....I also saw the same thing from developers of Killzone for PS3 trying to defend the graphics...and it is the consensus from most people that Killzone will be downgraded when it arrives. So, when I read a developer quickly defending his title, a red flag goes up for me and I get very skeptical...because videogame developers in the past have lied time and time again about a game's graphics and/or a game's length, or what will be included in the game *cough* Fable *cough*.

When a developer says a game is 70 hours long...it ends up being 25 to 30. Developers of Kameo said that the graphics quality is that of a Pixar movie during their presentation....now Kameo looks great, and may even have the best Xbox 360 textures around, but Pixar quality?? No, just no.

So, yeah, I will not believe a word out of a devs mouth until I actually play the game myself...because a response as quickly as Bioware's with the hint of "irritation" in the way it sounded seems like it might just very well be damage control. After all, devs will say anything to get people to buy their games....

The E3 and X06 demos looked like the optimized screen shots and were running real time gameplay on the hardware:? How much more do you need to see.
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[QUOTE="Tristam22"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Yeah, I know there are a million topics saying "Oh noez! Teh downgradez!"...but it's true. Mass Effect looks to have been downgraded significantly if those pics posted a few days ago are any indication. Oh well, I wasn't expecting great graphics from Bioware because of their track record, but the graphics barely look better than the 1st Xbox. :?AvIdGaMeR444

You've seen the million downgrade topics, but have you seen the millions of lemmings citing the developer's explanation for the aforementioned screenshots?

I have seen those topics....I also saw the same thing from developers of Killzone for PS3 trying to defend the graphics...and it is the consensus from most people that Killzone will be downgraded when it arrives.  So, when I read a developer quickly defending his title, a red flag goes up for me and I get very skeptical...because videogame developers in the past have lied time and time again about a game's graphics and/or a game's length, or what will be included in the game *cough* Fable *cough*. 

When a developer says a game is 70 hours long...it ends up being 25 to 30.  Developers of Kameo said that the graphics quality is that of a Pixar movie during their presentation....now Kameo looks great, and may even have the best Xbox 360 textures around, but Pixar quality?? No, just no. 

So, yeah, I will not believe a word out of a devs mouth until I actually play the game myself...because a response as quickly as Bioware's with the hint of "irritation" in the way it sounded seems like it might just very well be damage control.  After all, devs will say anything to get people to buy their games....

Why wait, heres gameplay footage right here. http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/masseffect/video_player.html?id=JyNinzKq5bgJvzHa
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You do realise that the gameplay footage does not look downgraded at all right? Choga


Of course he doesn't because he is too busy calling it "teh downgrade" to actually watch the videos.
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#25 swaginator
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[QUOTE="Choga"]You do realise that the gameplay footage does not look downgraded at all right? foxhound_fox


Of course he doesn't because he is too busy calling it "teh downgrade" to actually watch the videos.

Well i'll make sure i post this link plenty of times for him so he can watch it.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/masseffect/video_player.html?id=JyNinzKq5bgJvzHa

 

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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

[QUOTE="Tristam22"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Yeah, I know there are a million topics saying "Oh noez! Teh downgradez!"...but it's true. Mass Effect looks to have been downgraded significantly if those pics posted a few days ago are any indication. Oh well, I wasn't expecting great graphics from Bioware because of their track record, but the graphics barely look better than the 1st Xbox. :?bman784

You've seen the million downgrade topics, but have you seen the millions of lemmings citing the developer's explanation for the aforementioned screenshots?

I have seen those topics....I also saw the same thing from developers of Killzone for PS3 trying to defend the graphics...and it is the consensus from most people that Killzone will be downgraded when it arrives. So, when I read a developer quickly defending his title, a red flag goes up for me and I get very skeptical...because videogame developers in the past have lied time and time again about a game's graphics and/or a game's length, or what will be included in the game *cough* Fable *cough*.

When a developer says a game is 70 hours long...it ends up being 25 to 30. Developers of Kameo said that the graphics quality is that of a Pixar movie during their presentation....now Kameo looks great, and may even have the best Xbox 360 textures around, but Pixar quality?? No, just no.

So, yeah, I will not believe a word out of a devs mouth until I actually play the game myself...because a response as quickly as Bioware's with the hint of "irritation" in the way it sounded seems like it might just very well be damage control. After all, devs will say anything to get people to buy their games....

The E3 and X06 demos looked like the optimized screen shots and were running real time gameplay on the hardware:? How much more do you need to see.

So the devs say...Devs said the same thing about Killzone for PS3.  Remember how good Warhawk looked at E306?  Now look at it...Even Resistence: Fall of Man looked better when it was called I-8 or whatever the heck the original title was.  Devs said that I-8 was running on a demo kit...Look, I hope you're right and that I'm completely and totally owned when the game comes out and that the graphics are as good as they were at E306.  I'm just saying devs in the past have lied a lot about games...why should this be any different??

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[QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

[QUOTE="Tristam22"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Yeah, I know there are a million topics saying "Oh noez! Teh downgradez!"...but it's true. Mass Effect looks to have been downgraded significantly if those pics posted a few days ago are any indication. Oh well, I wasn't expecting great graphics from Bioware because of their track record, but the graphics barely look better than the 1st Xbox. :?AvIdGaMeR444

You've seen the million downgrade topics, but have you seen the millions of lemmings citing the developer's explanation for the aforementioned screenshots?

I have seen those topics....I also saw the same thing from developers of Killzone for PS3 trying to defend the graphics...and it is the consensus from most people that Killzone will be downgraded when it arrives. So, when I read a developer quickly defending his title, a red flag goes up for me and I get very skeptical...because videogame developers in the past have lied time and time again about a game's graphics and/or a game's length, or what will be included in the game *cough* Fable *cough*.

When a developer says a game is 70 hours long...it ends up being 25 to 30. Developers of Kameo said that the graphics quality is that of a Pixar movie during their presentation....now Kameo looks great, and may even have the best Xbox 360 textures around, but Pixar quality?? No, just no.

So, yeah, I will not believe a word out of a devs mouth until I actually play the game myself...because a response as quickly as Bioware's with the hint of "irritation" in the way it sounded seems like it might just very well be damage control. After all, devs will say anything to get people to buy their games....

The E3 and X06 demos looked like the optimized screen shots and were running real time gameplay on the hardware:? How much more do you need to see.

So the devs say...Devs said the same thing about Killzone for PS3.  Remember how good Warhawk looked at E306?  Now look at it...Even Resistence: Fall of Man looked better when it was called I-8 or whatever the heck the original title was.  Devs said that I-8 was running on a demo kit...Look, I hope you're right and that I'm completely and totally owned when the game comes out and that the graphics are as good as they were at E306.  I'm just saying devs in the past have lied a lot about games...why should this be any different??

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/masseffect/video_player.html?id=JyNinzKq5bgJvzHa

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So the devs say...Devs said the same thing about Killzone for PS3. Remember how good Warhawk looked at E306? Now look at it...Even Resistence: Fall of Man looked better when it was called I-8 or whatever the heck the original title was. Devs said that I-8 was running on a demo kit...Look, I hope you're right and that I'm completely and totally owned when the game comes out and that the graphics are as good as they were at E306. I'm just saying devs in the past have lied a lot about games...why should this be any different??

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Don't make assumptions based off of pessimism. They've shown actual gameplay. Gameplay as in the type of gameplay where a person picks up an Xbox 360 controller, sits down, and plays the game. It works to your argument to come up with some conspiracy theory as to why that would be somehow false, but for Mass Effect, there isn't much that would indicate that. There isn't anything tangible that would indicate that Bioware is lying about how Mass Effect looks.
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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

[QUOTE="Tristam22"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Yeah, I know there are a million topics saying "Oh noez! Teh downgradez!"...but it's true. Mass Effect looks to have been downgraded significantly if those pics posted a few days ago are any indication. Oh well, I wasn't expecting great graphics from Bioware because of their track record, but the graphics barely look better than the 1st Xbox. :?swaginator

You've seen the million downgrade topics, but have you seen the millions of lemmings citing the developer's explanation for the aforementioned screenshots?

I have seen those topics....I also saw the same thing from developers of Killzone for PS3 trying to defend the graphics...and it is the consensus from most people that Killzone will be downgraded when it arrives. So, when I read a developer quickly defending his title, a red flag goes up for me and I get very skeptical...because videogame developers in the past have lied time and time again about a game's graphics and/or a game's length, or what will be included in the game *cough* Fable *cough*.

When a developer says a game is 70 hours long...it ends up being 25 to 30. Developers of Kameo said that the graphics quality is that of a Pixar movie during their presentation....now Kameo looks great, and may even have the best Xbox 360 textures around, but Pixar quality?? No, just no.

So, yeah, I will not believe a word out of a devs mouth until I actually play the game myself...because a response as quickly as Bioware's with the hint of "irritation" in the way it sounded seems like it might just very well be damage control. After all, devs will say anything to get people to buy their games....

The E3 and X06 demos looked like the optimized screen shots and were running real time gameplay on the hardware:? How much more do you need to see.

So the devs say...Devs said the same thing about Killzone for PS3.  Remember how good Warhawk looked at E306?  Now look at it...Even Resistence: Fall of Man looked better when it was called I-8 or whatever the heck the original title was.  Devs said that I-8 was running on a demo kit...Look, I hope you're right and that I'm completely and totally owned when the game comes out and that the graphics are as good as they were at E306.  I'm just saying devs in the past have lied a lot about games...why should this be any different??

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/masseffect/video_player.html?id=JyNinzKq5bgJvzHa

I saw some bad framerate hiccups in that vid...and framerate does pertain to graphics.  The graphics still aren't as good as the E306 video shown...go back and look at the E306 video...it blows the current one away and has a better framerate...Also, another example of a game getting severely downgraded is Red Steel for Wii.  There was a "gameplay" video of that a couple of months b4 release that made it look very good graphically....and sheep know what the final product looked like.  Sometimes I think devs make higher pixel, higher res "gameplay" footage to show off to people to give the illusion that that is what the final product will look like...Even Nintendo did this.  Remember some of the gameplay footage from E304 and 05 for TP?  The enemies, lighting, and textures were much more crisp in a lot of the scenes from the "gameplay" footage.   

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[QUOTE="ironwarrior2"]I love all teh excusses from the lems :lol:R-Dot-Yung
yea, how come motorstorm was shredded to bits MGS4 shredded to bits DMC4 shredded to bits every PS3 game this happens to its shredded to bits, but Halo 3 and Mass Effect are immune to downgrades when E3 comes so will the verdict on this situation

 

if the devs didnt respond to constant complaining about mass effect's graphics and didnt give a reasonable explaination to why the graphics are like that..they yeah..i would call downgrade..but that isnt the case. 
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I love cows.Choga

ey choga, where can i get the coding for your "red sauce on pasta" clip, it made me piss myself

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learn how to read,bioware already explained why it looked like it did in the last pics they released,bah.