Oh, wow...another rail shooter for the Wii. (I'm getting tired of this)

So I'm checking out the latest issue of GI and I come across this pic of a game. I say "Hey, that looks cool." The name of the game is Ghost Squad.

Then I read about how the game is on rails. Not only that but the game isn't very new either.

First, welcome to the mid-90's, where on-rails are still considered cool and Terminator 2 is flying high at the arcade.

Why? Why are devlopers still making on-rail shooters? Does anyone care? The Wii has the ability to offer the best controld for FPS' and until MP, we haven't seen jack. Just weak, dumbed down, hand me off games that make me wonder if I should have even bought the thing. RE4 is great, so great I beat it 8-10 times on my GC.

Ports, ports, ports ans more ports. SPM is about the only new game that I think is worth mentioning.

I have supported the Wii and people here will testify to that.

I am, however, starting to lose my patience.

Wii is about ports, kiddy games and minigames.Supafly1

testify

[QUOTE="Supafly1"]Wii is about ports, kiddy games and minigames.DriftMax

testify

Ok, maybe I was too harsh but all I'm seeing is those examples, not counting games like Manhunt 2. I know that Super Mario Galaxy, SSBB and Metroid are going to be great games and worth owning. But for the time being, I don't see many games that would be worth mentioning. I'm feeling that Wii is getting games that are worth playing on a handled, not on a console. I want to see more "serious" games, games that have "depth" and a real story. I was having my hopes for Red Steel but sadly it flopped pretty hard. My hype also fell when the rumors spread that HAMMER was cancelled.

Ports, ports, ports ans more ports. SPM is about the only new game that I think is worth mentioning.

IronMaidenLives

SPM is actually a Gamecube game- arguably a "port."

Yeah, I mean, I don't mind an on-rails shooter here or there, but given the fact that the Wii is lacking in so many other genres as of now, it's surprising to see that developers are willing to bring another game from a niche genre instead of the current big genres.

First of all, unless you count the shooting scenes in Rayman, there's only one other rail shooter in development for the Wii. I happen to like rail shooters for their visceral, white-knuckle, twitch gameplay. And just because agame genre hit its apex in the mid 90s, that means it's not worth revisiting? Well, I guess nobody should make any more one-on-one fighting games anymore then, or RPGs, or side-scrolling action games, or FPS games for that matter.

If you want to play a good FPS, wait for MP3, or buy an Xbox. I'm getting tired of the whining

[QUOTE="IronMaidenLives"]

Ports, ports, ports ans more ports. SPM is about the only new game that I think is worth mentioning.

Vampyronight

SPM is actually a Gamecube game- arguably a "port."

Yeah, I mean, I don't mind an on-rails shooter here or there, but given the fact that the Wii is lacking in so many other genres as of now, it's surprising to see that developers are willing to bring another game from a niche genre instead of the current big genres.

exactly how when its a competely different game to the gamecube version? Its a platformer and rpg. Stupid noobs

First of all, unless you count the shooting scenes in Rayman, there's only one other rail shooter in development for the Wii. I happen to like rail shooters for their visceral, white-knuckle, twitch gameplay. And just because agame genre hit its apex in the mid 90s, that means it's not worth revisiting? Well, I guess nobody should make any more one-on-one fighting games anymore then, or RPGs, or side-scrolling action games, or FPS games for that matter.

If you want to play a good FPS, wait for MP3, or buy an Xbox. I'm getting tired of the whining

OPbarfer

Tired of the whining? That's nice. This is the first time I've complained about the Wii so deal with it.

Now you're comaping on-rails to RPG's? Hmmm, one can expand it's depth. The other cannot. Guess which one can, buddy?

Sure. Let me go right out there and buy another system. I don't have enough anyway.

Does it play like Time Crisis or Virtua Cop? If so, then I can't see the problem, I love VC.

[QUOTE="Vampyronight"][QUOTE="IronMaidenLives"]

Ports, ports, ports ans more ports. SPM is about the only new game that I think is worth mentioning.

monkeysrfat

SPM is actually a Gamecube game- arguably a "port."

Yeah, I mean, I don't mind an on-rails shooter here or there, but given the fact that the Wii is lacking in so many other genres as of now, it's surprising to see that developers are willing to bring another game from a niche genre instead of the current big genres.

exactly how when its a competely different game to the gamecube version? Its a platformer and rpg. Stupid noobs

Maybe it was developed for the Gc and decided to ad Wii controls later, Which is what happended with Zelda except their was no reason to release Spm on the Gc.

So I'm checking out the latest issue of GI and I come across this pic of a game. I say "Hey, that looks cool." The name of the game is Ghost Squad.

Then I read about how the game is on rails. Not only that but the game isn't very new either.

First, welcome to the mid-90's, where on-rails are still considered cool and Terminator 2 is flying high at the arcade.

Why? Why are devlopers still making on-rail shooters? Does anyone care? The Wii has the ability to offer the best controld for FPS' and until MP, we haven't seen jack. Just weak, dumbed down, hand me off games that make me wonder if I should have even bought the thing. RE4 is great, so great I beat it 8-10 times on my GC.

Ports, ports, ports ans more ports. SPM is about the only new game that I think is worth mentioning.

I have supported the Wii and people here will testify to that.

I am, however, starting to lose my patience.

IronMaidenLives

I am not sure if you realize it but Ghost Squad was an arcade game simliar to time crisis except with a rifle. I agree that RE going on rails is crap but crying about a game thats main gameplay was on rails in the arcade and is being exactly translated on the Wii is kind of dumb.

ANOTHER!?

WoW.

That's.... like what..

Umbrella Chronicles

Ghost Squad

OMG two too manY!! ...Unless I missed the other 40 rail shooters for Wii.

I really don't care, man. I want to have some fun times like when I used to play House of the Dead and Time Crisis :(

[QUOTE="Supafly1"]Wii is about ports, kiddy games and minigames.DriftMax

testify

http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=eaMw878FhoU

There you go ;)

There's only about what?

Five rail shooters...wow that is TOO many. :P

All this innovation is blinding me.

All this innovation is blinding me.

Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

All this innovation is blinding me.

luigigreen

What innovation? The Wii mote isn't innovative, they were doing motion sensing in the 90's *sigh*.

What innovation? The Wii mote isn't innovative, they were doing motion sensing in the 90's *sigh*.Stonin

[QUOTE="Stonin"]What innovation? The Wii mote isn't innovative, they were doing motion sensing in the 90's *sigh*.Jandurin

Yes, on home video game consoles.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Stonin"]What innovation? The Wii mote isn't innovative, they were doing motion sensing in the 90's *sigh*.Stonin

Yes, on home video game consoles.

[QUOTE="luigigreen"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

All this innovation is blinding me.

Stonin

What innovation? The Wii mote isn't innovative, they were doing motion sensing in the 90's *sigh*.

[QUOTE="Stonin"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Stonin"]What innovation? The Wii mote isn't innovative, they were doing motion sensing in the 90's *sigh*.Jandurin

Yes, on home video game consoles.

Ahh so thats the innovation is it? Cheap and standard...sounds oddly like the rest of the console.

http://gonintendo.com/?p=4183

Above link shows the first batch of these things though just so you know I wasn't joking :P.

Deja Vu.

This reminds me when they were making fun of the DS.

[QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="luigigreen"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

All this innovation is blinding me.

luigigreen

What innovation? The Wii mote isn't innovative, they were doing motion sensing in the 90's *sigh*.

I've seen them, and i'm not impressed. This is why I will be giving my Wii away to my friends daughter for her 10th Birthday. I know she's going to love it to pieces.The only thing i'll miss even slightly is Trauma Centre, I did have some fun with that.

That tilt controller is MUCH more like Sony's than Nintendo's.

I mean, the Wii remote is separated for maxin relaxin, it has up down left right tilt and forward back every other direction.

And it has a pointer. Which controller in the past had a pointer?

Deja Vu.

This reminds me when they were making fun of the DS.

Willy105

Nah the DS is pretty decent for a handheld. The touch screen controls combined with the dual screen and longer battery life = win. Sure there's lots of junk on it but also some pretty cool games. However, an innovative handheld is a different proposition to an unimaginative, and quite frankly overpriced, Wii.

[QUOTE="luigigreen"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="luigigreen"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

All this innovation is blinding me.

Stonin

What innovation? The Wii mote isn't innovative, they were doing motion sensing in the 90's *sigh*.

I've seen them, and i'm not impressed. This is why I will be giving my Wii away to my friends daughter for her 10th Birthday. I know she's going to love it to pieces.The only thing i'll miss even slightly is Trauma Centre, I did have some fun with that.

That tilt controller is MUCH more like Sony's than Nintendo's.

I mean, the Wii remote is separated for maxin relaxin, it has up down left right tilt and forward back every other direction.

And it has a pointer. Which controller in the past had a pointer?

Jandurin

Look I agree that the controller could be put to good use...if it wasn't running on last gen hardware. Maybe I hate it so much because i'm playing it on a HDTV, which sometimes also lags out the controls and always makes the games look like ****.

[QUOTE="Willy105"]

Deja Vu.

This reminds me when they were making fun of the DS.

Stonin

Nah the DS is pretty decent for a handheld. The touch screen controls combined with the dual screen and longer battery life = win. Sure there's lots of junk on it but also some pretty cool games. However, an innovative handheld is a different proposition to an unimaginative, and quite frankly overpriced, Wii.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

That tilt controller is MUCH more like Sony's than Nintendo's.

I mean, the Wii remote is separated for maxin relaxin, it has up down left right tilt and forward back every other direction.

And it has a pointer. Which controller in the past had a pointer?

Stonin

Look I agree that the controller could be put to good use...if it wasn't running on last gen hardware. Maybe I hate it so much because i'm playing it on a HDTV, which sometimes also lags out the controls and always makes the games look like ****.

Some games do look pretty crappy that big, though.

[QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="luigigreen"][QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="luigigreen"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

All this innovation is blinding me.

luigigreen

What innovation? The Wii mote isn't innovative, they were doing motion sensing in the 90's *sigh*.

I've seen them, and i'm not impressed. This is why I will be giving my Wii away to my friends daughter for her 10th Birthday. I know she's going to love it to pieces.The only thing i'll miss even slightly is Trauma Centre, I did have some fun with that.

I also understand that point of view, but software attach rates show people are buying consoles by the dozen and 1 or 2 games for them. The thing that I guess annoys me the most is that I was looking forward to some new and clever stuff from Ninty as a publisher. When I saw the line up for the next year pretty much all I saw was the same old stuff with motion controls. That really annoyed me.

On top of that people call it a 'cheap' console. Once you have bought all the gadgets for it and a coupel of games it's actually more expensive (in the UK) than a 360 premium with two (admittedly bundled) games! How they justify this on top of the game pricing policy I just don't know.

Wow. Your just grasping at straws. There are a total of TWO on rail games. You could have at least said how it is a kiddy console or something, but just wow. Anyways, I enjoy on rail games. They require reflexes and a steady hand. They were fun in the 90's and I still enjoy a good round of House of The Dead of Time Crisis now and again. If it plays like either of those, then yea, I'm up for it.luigigreen

Fine. I see your point. But it doesn't negate the fact that there have been nothing but rehashes for this system.

[QUOTE="Stonin"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

That tilt controller is MUCH more like Sony's than Nintendo's.

I mean, the Wii remote is separated for maxin relaxin, it has up down left right tilt and forward back every other direction.

And it has a pointer. Which controller in the past had a pointer?

Jandurin

Look I agree that the controller could be put to good use...if it wasn't running on last gen hardware. Maybe I hate it so much because i'm playing it on a HDTV, which sometimes also lags out the controls and always makes the games look like ****.

Some games do look pretty crappy that big, though.

It could just be on my TV, I don't know. I don't have access to another one to try it out on :(. Still, after TraumaCentre I have been looking for something showing the same degree of imagination and just not finding it. Looking forward i'm not seeing anything either (except maybe Mario Galaxy, but one game does not justify a console purchase for me).

[QUOTE="luigigreen"]Wow. Your just grasping at straws. There are a total of TWO on rail games. You could have at least said how it is a kiddy console or something, but just wow. Anyways, I enjoy on rail games. They require reflexes and a steady hand. They were fun in the 90's and I still enjoy a good round of House of The Dead of Time Crisis now and again. If it plays like either of those, then yea, I'm up for it.IronMaidenLives

Fine. I see your point. But it doesn't negate the fact that there have been nothing but rehashes for this system.

Looking forward i'm not seeing anything either (except maybe Mario Galaxy, but one game does not justify a console purchase for me). Stonin

It was an easy buy if you hadn't owned a GC before.

Oh no, Ghost Squad? That brings the total number of on-rails shooters on the Wii up to a staggering....2.

We're all going to die.

[QUOTE="Stonin"]Looking forward i'm not seeing anything either (except maybe Mario Galaxy, but one game does not justify a console purchase for me). Jandurin

It was an easy buy if you hadn't owned a GC before.

I guess retro gaming isn't for me. If I wanted that i'd roll out my old SNES and NES...but I don't.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

[QUOTE="Stonin"]Looking forward i'm not seeing anything either (except maybe Mario Galaxy, but one game does not justify a console purchase for me). Stonin

It was an easy buy if you hadn't owned a GC before.

I guess retro gaming isn't for me. If I wanted that i'd roll out my old SNES and NES...but I don't.