Ok CELL put up or SHUT UP!!! No more EXCUSES!!! HL2 Orange Box Will end IT!!!

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#1 Sloughy07
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HL2 Orange box will be the final determination if the Cell is worth a ratzzzz azzzz

Reason i'm saying this is becuase it's a multiplat release and it's said by the developer that it will be the same version for PC/360/PS3

If developer also says it will have a great up to date physics and graphics system to todays standards.

CELL it's time to show that you can hang. If the PS3 version has any frame drops or suffers at all compared to other PC and 360 versions. IT'S OVER no more bu bu bu the Cell the Cell will be sent to the JOKE BIN for good.

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#2 firestorm91
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Lol, HL2 Orange box won't be the final determination on what the cell can do.
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#3 anshuk20002
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arent the pc and 360 similar though.  i have a feeling the ps3 version aint gonna look too good
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arent the pc and 360 similar though. i have a feeling the ps3 version aint gonna look too goodanshuk20002

Agreed  

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HL2 Orange box will be the final determination if the Cell is worth a ratzzzz azzzz

Reason i'm saying this is becuase it's a multiplat release and it's said by the developer that it will be the same version for PC/360/PS3

If developer also says it will have a great up to date physics and graphics system to todays standards.

CELL it's time to show that you can hang. If the PS3 version has any frame drops or suffers at all compared to other PC and 360 versions. IT'S OVER no more bu bu bu the Cell the Cell will be sent to the JOKE BIN for good.

Sloughy07

Why would you expect a multiplat to push the PS3s hardware.  That would be assuming that they would spend more time building Half Life 2 around the Cell when two of the other systems they are making the game for dont have the Cell feature.  Its 1st party and exclusives that will show off the PS3s hardware potential, not multiplat. 

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arent the pc and 360 similar though. i have a feeling the ps3 version aint gonna look too goodanshuk20002

Kutaragi said the ps3 is a super computer ;)

/end 

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#7 a-tek
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Lol, HL2 Orange box won't be the final determination on what the cell can do.firestorm91
"Developers will never unlock the true power of the Cell" -sez Sony. Also, if they didn't sandbag the processor by deactivating the 8th core, the true power would at least be available.
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#8 TrueReligion_
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A 3 year old multiplatform game isn't going to decide whether a console's technology is good or not. :|
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#9 Javy03
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[QUOTE="anshuk20002"]arent the pc and 360 similar though. i have a feeling the ps3 version aint gonna look too goodDoctorBunny

Kutaragi said the ps3 is a super computer ;)

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Has functions like a "super" computer, but deving for games are not the same as a computer. 

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arent the pc and 360 similar though.  i have a feeling the ps3 version aint gonna look too goodanshuk20002

especially if it's being ported from the PC, look how F.E.A.R turned out.

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[QUOTE="anshuk20002"]arent the pc and 360 similar though. i have a feeling the ps3 version aint gonna look too goodDoctorBunny

Kutaragi said the ps3 is a super computer ;)

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Who are you to say it isn't? Are you a computer engineer?  

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I'm confident the PS3 version will be perfect. The standard HDD makes it more like a computer than the 360, which is appreciated for a port from a PC game.
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Let me clear something up. The cell is not a super-processor. It is a CPU. That's it. It can only do what developers make it do. It cannot magically make things amazing. 

That is all.
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EA is handle the ps3 version so we already know how this will turn out.
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[QUOTE="anshuk20002"]arent the pc and 360 similar though. i have a feeling the ps3 version aint gonna look too goodKillaHalo2o9

Agreed  

I second that

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I don't trust this developer. They remind me of Ubisoft in a way.

 

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I don't trust this developer. They remind me of Ubisoft in a way.

 

diggyzoom

You don't trust Valve?

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This will be the TC's 2nd out of 15 thread he will make tonight.
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I have all 3 consoles, I'm way beyond thinking that the ps3 is capable of more then the 360. I bought it under the assumption disc space would be utilized, the cell would equate to more physics, and so far there is no evidence of either. I would have bought it anyway, but I don't need to be consistently reminded of the so called ultimate power that has yet to be unleashed. I actual chuckle when I read things like the back of the MLB 07 box, and the first line touts the Cell processor's ultimate stat tracking capabilities.
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I don't trust this developer. They remind me of Ubisoft in a way.

 

diggyzoom

 

who? Valve? 

 

they are ingenious developers, and make money in tricky little ways, that people never realize.

 

Like Steam....according to valve, they make $10 more off of a Steam sale, yet thier games cost the same price as retail games.

 

and bying out mods.

 

But at the same time their games are always great, and very very modeable. 

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I have all 3 consoles, I'm way beyond thinking that the ps3 is capable of more then the 360. I bought it under the assumption disc space would be utilized, the cell would equate to more physics, and so far there is no evidence of either. I would have bought it anyway, but I don't need to be consistently reminded of the so called ultimate power that has yet to be unleashed. I actual chuckle when I read things like the back of the MLB 07 box, and the first line touts the Cell processor's ultimate stat tracking capabilities.dru26

lol 

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#22 jliebel
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people are ignorant of the fact that the cell requires a different coding structure then xbox and pc.... its really sad.
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#23 miss_kitt3n
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I like it when multiplat games decide a console's worth/power:|

 

How about waiting for MGS4 like everyone else?

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Nothing multiplat is going to show what the Cell is capable of. Either the game is equal because the 360 isn't capable of having nearly as much physics and such so the game has to be limited, or the developer didn't put effort into it. There's no question that the Cell is far more capable, but we're not going to see many developers fully exploit it for multiplats because the 360 wouldn't be capable of things that would show off the Cell's power in the first place.
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We don't have to wait for MGS4...Lair, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet and Clank, and Uncharted will be THE BEST benchmarks for late 2007.
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Show me a game built around the PS3 then ported to the 360 and both released at the same time.  Then This will be the test.  This doesn't sound like its built around the PS3 first so its invalid.
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[QUOTE="firestorm91"]Lol, HL2 Orange box won't be the final determination on what the cell can do.a-tek
"Developers will never unlock the true power of the Cell" -sez Sony. Also, if they didn't sandbag the processor by deactivating the 8th core, the true power would at least be available.

now sony have an excuse to why their games will never look good, :wink:

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[QUOTE="diggyzoom"]

I don't trust this developer. They remind me of Ubisoft in a way.

 

cobrax75

 

who? Valve?

 

they are ingenious developers, and make money in tricky little ways, that people never realize.

 

Like Steam....according to valve, they make $10 more off of a Steam sale, yet thier games cost the same price as retail games.

 

and bying out mods.

 

But at the same time their games are always great, and very very modeable.

EA is heading the PS3 version, I believe someone just said.

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#29 Arsenal325
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lol this thread is so stupid
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#30 -MoOkS-
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doesnt half life 2 0r the source engine run better on all ATi cards??????( like unreal engine runs better on openGL nvidia cough ps3 rsx card) and resistance has better physics than half life 2 imo and motorstorm so if it runs s**** on ps3 its due to poor programming.
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#31 dhjohns
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I'm confident the PS3 version will be perfect. The standard HDD makes it more like a computer than the 360, which is appreciated for a port from a PC game.Mordred19

 

:lol:  Whatever.  I guess you haven't seen games like FEAR :lol: 

 

 

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#32 Solid-CELL
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LAIR, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted: Drakes Fortune, and of course.....Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots will determine what the Cell and RSX is truly about.

No multiplat game is going to set NO standard. Even if it is coming from the guys at Valve. 

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#33 downPlayDemon
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Graphics are bad because of the RSX not the cell
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#34 Solid-CELL
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doesnt half life 2 0r the source engine run better on all ATi cards??????( like unreal engine runs better on openGL nvidia cough ps3 rsx card) and resistance has better physics than half life 2 imo and motorstorm so if it runs s**** on ps3 its due to poor programming.-MoOkS-
Valve are the MASTERS of physics.

GTFO. 

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Quick Question:  When has a PS2 game ever been ported to the original Xbox, whereas the PS2's version ended up sporting better graphics?

If the answer is Never, then well, these PS3 port arguments are a joke.  The stronger system should always be able to muster up better graphics.  Whether the game plays better or not is a different story, but the graphics improvement should be set in stone.

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Nothing multiplat is going to show what the Cell is capable of. Either the game is equal because the 360 isn't capable of having nearly as much physics and such so the game has to be limited, or the developer didn't put effort into it. There's no question that the Cell is far more capable, but we're not going to see many developers fully exploit it for multiplats because the 360 wouldn't be capable of things that would show off the Cell's power in the first place.Lazy_Boy88

Bull!  A developer won't gimp one version so that it can look like another.  That's like saying the PS3 version of Spiderman 3 looks like the Wii's version.  Never gonna happen. 

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HL2 Orange box will be the final determination if the Cell is worth a ratzzzz azzzz

Reason i'm saying this is becuase it's a multiplat release and it's said by the developer that it will be the same version for PC/360/PS3

If developer also says it will have a great up to date physics and graphics system to todays standards.

CELL it's time to show that you can hang. If the PS3 version has any frame drops or suffers at all compared to other PC and 360 versions. IT'S OVER no more bu bu bu the Cell the Cell will be sent to the JOKE BIN for good.

Sloughy07

How long has the ps3 been out? 7 months? troll 

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That is a fine point you make there. I wonder what rebuttals they can bring forth to counter that.
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[QUOTE="Sloughy07"]

HL2 Orange box will be the final determination if the Cell is worth a ratzzzz azzzz

Reason i'm saying this is becuase it's a multiplat release and it's said by the developer that it will be the same version for PC/360/PS3

If developer also says it will have a great up to date physics and graphics system to todays standards.

CELL it's time to show that you can hang. If the PS3 version has any frame drops or suffers at all compared to other PC and 360 versions. IT'S OVER no more bu bu bu the Cell the Cell will be sent to the JOKE BIN for good.

Javy03

Why would you expect a multiplat to push the PS3s hardware. That would be assuming that they would spend more time building Half Life 2 around the Cell when two of the other systems they are making the game for dont have the Cell feature. Its 1st party and exclusives that will show off the PS3s hardware potential, not multiplat.

Agreed 

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doesnt half life 2 0r the source engine run better on all ATi cards??????( like unreal engine runs better on openGL nvidia cough ps3 rsx card) and resistance has better physics than half life 2 imo and motorstorm so if it runs s**** on ps3 its due to poor programming.-MoOkS-

Both consoles GPU's are capable of running HL2 on high @ more then 60 FPS.

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[QUOTE="firestorm91"]Lol, HL2 Orange box won't be the final determination on what the cell can do.a-tek
"Developers will never unlock the true power of the Cell" -sez Sony. Also, if they didn't sandbag the processor by deactivating the 8th core, the true power would at least be available.

 They don't actually "deactivate" the 8th FPU. The Cell has a huge failure rate in manufacturing - only about a quarter of them have seven properly functioning when created. These chips are reserved for Sony, and IBM sells the others (with 4-6 operational FPUs) to other manufacturers for stuff like medical diagnostic equipment. It's not deactivated, IBM simply cannot push out a high enough quantity of Cells with 8 functioning FPUs to make it cost effective. Regardless, chip makers are preparing boards and chipsets for PCs with 8 true cores now, which makes the Cell look like a 386.

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That game is an upgrade to a now almost ancient engine.
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[QUOTE="a-tek"][QUOTE="firestorm91"]Lol, HL2 Orange box won't be the final determination on what the cell can do.makemeweak

"Developers will never unlock the true power of the Cell" -sez Sony. Also, if they didn't sandbag the processor by deactivating the 8th core, the true power would at least be available.

They don't actually "deactivate" the 8th FPU. The Cell has a huge failure rate in manufacturing - only about a quarter of them have seven properly functioning when created. These chips are reserved for Sony, and IBM sells the others (with 4-6 operational FPUs) to other manufacturers for stuff like medical diagnostic equipment. It's not deactivated, IBM simply cannot push out a high enough quantity of Cells with 8 functioning FPUs to make it cost effective. Regardless, chip makers are preparing boards and chipsets for PCs with 8 true cores now, which makes the Cell look like a 386.

Actually only 6 are given to the dev, another one is used for the OS
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Lol, HL2 Orange box won't be the final determination on what the cell can do.firestorm91

PS3 exclusives will. This thread fails. Everybody knows that multiplat games will never take full advantage of what the Cell can do.

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[QUOTE="makemeweak"]

[QUOTE="a-tek"][QUOTE="firestorm91"]Lol, HL2 Orange box won't be the final determination on what the cell can do.Oemenia

"Developers will never unlock the true power of the Cell" -sez Sony. Also, if they didn't sandbag the processor by deactivating the 8th core, the true power would at least be available.

They don't actually "deactivate" the 8th FPU. The Cell has a huge failure rate in manufacturing - only about a quarter of them have seven properly functioning when created. These chips are reserved for Sony, and IBM sells the others (with 4-6 operational FPUs) to other manufacturers for stuff like medical diagnostic equipment. It's not deactivated, IBM simply cannot push out a high enough quantity of Cells with 8 functioning FPUs to make it cost effective. Regardless, chip makers are preparing boards and chipsets for PCs with 8 true cores now, which makes the Cell look like a 386.

Actually only 6 are given to the dev, another one is used for the OS

 

And one can be taken by the OS anytime, so realistically, 5. 

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[QUOTE="makemeweak"]

[QUOTE="a-tek"][QUOTE="firestorm91"]Lol, HL2 Orange box won't be the final determination on what the cell can do.Oemenia

"Developers will never unlock the true power of the Cell" -sez Sony. Also, if they didn't sandbag the processor by deactivating the 8th core, the true power would at least be available.

They don't actually "deactivate" the 8th FPU. The Cell has a huge failure rate in manufacturing - only about a quarter of them have seven properly functioning when created. These chips are reserved for Sony, and IBM sells the others (with 4-6 operational FPUs) to other manufacturers for stuff like medical diagnostic equipment. It's not deactivated, IBM simply cannot push out a high enough quantity of Cells with 8 functioning FPUs to make it cost effective. Regardless, chip makers are preparing boards and chipsets for PCs with 8 true cores now, which makes the Cell look like a 386.

Actually only 6 are given to the dev, another one is used for the OS

 

Um - OK. I was only referring to the manufacturing process, though. No devs involved. 

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PS3 is a joke sony pulled on PS fans. Enjoy your blueray movies folks

 

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Show me a game built around the PS3 then ported to the 360 and both released at the same time.  Then This will be the test.  This doesn't sound like its built around the PS3 first so its invalid.caseypayne69

Aint gonna happen, all the best games (excluding MGS4 & FF13) are already on or heading for the 360!

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[QUOTE="anshuk20002"]arent the pc and 360 similar though. i have a feeling the ps3 version aint gonna look too goodDoctorBunny

Kutaragi said the ps3 is a super computer ;)

/end 

That is why he is playing golf right now!

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#50 Ericvon71
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[QUOTE="caseypayne69"]Show me a game built around the PS3 then ported to the 360 and both released at the same time.  Then This will be the test.  This doesn't sound like its built around the PS3 first so its invalid.daytona_178

Aint gonna happen, all the best games (excluding MGS4 & FF13) are already on or heading for the 360!

All the best games.....................So Sony first and second party games are going to 360..............LOL

Try not to be so vague buddy!!!!!