Ok, what is the console graphics king now. Uncharted 2 still, or GoW III?

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#1 Master_ShakeXXX
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The time has come for a new console graphics king poll. Somebody make one damit.

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#2 Skittles_McGee
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You er, couldn't have just added a poll to this?
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#3 DragonfireXZ95
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You made a thread, telling someone to make another thread, about graphics king? This is really getting out of hand with all these playstation fanboys making graphic thread after graphic thread for no reason.
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#4 Master_ShakeXXX
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I can't make polls. Atleast I think I can't :question:

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I still say Uncharted 2, but just by a little. I wonder how long it will be untill someone comes in here and says "Crysis" *in a stupid little kid voice*

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I still say Uncharted 2, but just by a little. I wonder how long it will be untill someone comes in here and says "Crysis" *in a stupid little kid voice*

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Is it really their fault if Crysis owns it? :P
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[QUOTE="gregbmil"]

I still say Uncharted 2, but just by a little. I wonder how long it will be untill someone comes in here and says "Crysis" *in a stupid little kid voice*

DragonfireXZ95

Is it really their fault if Crysis owns it? :P

Less than 60 seconds.

Some parts of GOWIII look better than UC2 but on the whole I say UC2 still has the edge.

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[QUOTE="gregbmil"]

I still say Uncharted 2, but just by a little. I wonder how long it will be untill someone comes in here and says "Crysis" *in a stupid little kid voice*

DragonfireXZ95

Is it really their fault if Crysis owns it? :P

No, but it clearly says CONSOLE graphics king. The last time I checked a PC is not a console, it's a PC. We all know Crysis is the best looking game ( I have it). It's just that some people act no other game has ever impressed them since, if not I feel sorry for them

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#10 SecretPolice
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I dunno, I'm thinking the Console Exclusive Mass Effect 2. :P

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I dunno, I'm thinking the Console Exclusive Mass Effect 2. :P

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which is also on pc
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I think Killzone 2 should be added to this poll.
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#13 d_black
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Kratos is a more detailed character model than Drake however supporting cast and enemies look better in Uncharted 2. Overall God of War takes it for me; I 'got used to' Uncharted 2's graphics but with God of War 3 I was impressed till the end.

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#14 SolidTy
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Best looking on Consoles?

  1. Killzone 2
  2. Uncharted 2
  3. God of War 3
  4. Heavy Rain
  5. GeoW2
  6. MGS4
  7. Uncharted
  8. GeoW1
  9. Ratchet : Crack
  10. Banjo Nuts

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Look out for upcoming :

  1. GeoW3
  2. Killzone 3
  3. Alan Wake
  4. Gran Turismo 5
  5. Reach?
  6. The Last Guardian?
  7. Splinter Cell?
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Uncharted 2 is better looking but GoW3 is far more epic:P

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Metal Gear Solid 4 needs a mention, stunning game, looks more 'real' than Uncharted 2.

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[QUOTE="Renzokucant"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

I dunno, I'm thinking the Console Exclusive Mass Effect 2. :P

which is also on pc

But he clearly said console exclusive. If you want nonsense about trying to exclude the PC from graphics debates then it should be fine to count PC/360 games as "consoles exclusives for the 360". Both are nonsense just stop, the PC counts in SW, its like cows and lems excluding the Wii from sales talk.
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GoW3 looks great but U2, KZ2 and Gears2 still look better

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#19 grizzlybear1
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PC and Wii arnt competetion to the average console gamer, its all about 360 / PS3.

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PC and Wii arnt competetion to the average console gamer, its all about 360 / PS3.

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Link? Who is the "average" console gamer, as the Wii has sold about the same as the 360 & PS3 put together, doesn't that make its gamers the "average" console gamer? Seriously the arrogance of 360/PS3 gamers sometimes thinking that they represent gaming as a whole is absolutely baffling.

EDIT and so you'd agree that 360/PC games should be counted as "360 console exclusives"?

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[QUOTE="Renzokucant"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

I dunno, I'm thinking the Console Exclusive Mass Effect 2. :P

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which is also on pc

But he clearly said console exclusive. If you want nonsense about trying to exclude the PC from graphics debates then it should be fine to count PC/360 games as "consoles exclusives for the 360". Both are nonsense just stop, the PC counts in SW, its like cows and lems excluding the Wii from sales talk.

Not surprised one bit that you interpreted the meaning of my post correctly. ;)

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[QUOTE="Renzokucant"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

I dunno, I'm thinking the Console Exclusive Mass Effect 2. :P

blue_hazy_basic

which is also on pc

But he clearly said console exclusive. If you want nonsense about trying to exclude the PC from graphics debates then it should be fine to count PC/360 games as "consoles exclusives for the 360". Both are nonsense just stop, the PC counts in SW, its like cows and lems excluding the Wii from sales talk.

The problem is that Console Graphics King is valid while Console Exclusive isn't. Hypothetically, say Console Exclusive does become valid. Its not going to do anything in favor of the 360 if its not EXCLUSIVE. Console graphics king is just a simple way of saying best looking game on consoles.

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Renzokucant"] which is also on pciKINGBOBi

But he clearly said console exclusive. If you want nonsense about trying to exclude the PC from graphics debates then it should be fine to count PC/360 games as "consoles exclusives for the 360". Both are nonsense just stop, the PC counts in SW, its like cows and lems excluding the Wii from sales talk.

The problem is that Console Graphics King is valid while Console Exclusive isn't

Its a problem for fanboys trying to push an agenda, yes.

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Renzokucant"] which is also on pciKINGBOBi

But he clearly said console exclusive. If you want nonsense about trying to exclude the PC from graphics debates then it should be fine to count PC/360 games as "consoles exclusives for the 360". Both are nonsense just stop, the PC counts in SW, its like cows and lems excluding the Wii from sales talk.

The problem is that Console Graphics King is valid while Console Exclusive isn't

I don't get all the confusion when this comes up, so just say "Best looking Console Game" and you are done...and yes, people can vote for ME2 if they feel that really is the best looking game on consoles.Reviews and gamers didn't reflect that opinion, but everyone is entitled to make that point in a console graphics thread, I would think. People can vote for any old standby's like RE5 as well. This isn't about anything more than measuring the consoles graphics in 2010.

This hardware is getting old.:P

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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

But he clearly said console exclusive. If you want nonsense about trying to exclude the PC from graphics debates then it should be fine to count PC/360 games as "consoles exclusives for the 360". Both are nonsense just stop, the PC counts in SW, its like cows and lems excluding the Wii from sales talk.blue_hazy_basic

The problem is that Console Graphics King is valid while Console Exclusive isn't

I don't get all the confusion when this comes up, so just say "Best looking Console Game" and you are done...and yes, people can vote for ME2 if they feel that really is the best looking game on consoles.Reviews and gamers didn't reflect that opinion, but everyone is entitled to make that point in a console graphics thread, I would think. People can vote for any old standby's like RE5 as well. This isn't about anything more than measuring the consoles graphics in 2010.

This hardware is getting old.:P

Whats the difference to saying ME2 is exclusively on the 360 on consoles? Or when comparing the PS3 and 360 libraries directly, ME2 would be exclusively on the 360. Cows can't have it both ways. PC counts, its in the rules :P lol
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[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]P>

The problem is that Console Graphics King is valid while Console Exclusive isn't. Hypothetically, say Console Exclusive does become valid. Its not going to do anything in favor of the 360 if its not EXCLUSIVE. Console graphics king is just a simple way of saying best looking game on consoles.

And a console exclusive is a simple way of saying that a game is on the PC and one console.
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

The problem is that Console Graphics King is valid while Console Exclusive isn't

blue_hazy_basic

I don't get all the confusion when this comes up, so just say "Best looking Console Game" and you are done...and yes, people can vote for ME2 if they feel that really is the best looking game on consoles.Reviews and gamers didn't reflect that opinion, but everyone is entitled to make that point in a console graphics thread, I would think. People can vote for any old standby's like RE5 as well. This isn't about anything more than measuring the consoles graphics in 2010.

This hardware is getting old.:P

  1. Whats the difference to saying ME2 is exclusively on the 360 on consoles?
  2. Or when comparing the PS3 and 360 libraries directly, ME2 would be exclusively on the 360. Cows can't have it both ways.
  3. PC counts, its in the rules :P lol

  1. Nothing, and I'm not arguing against that. I never get involved in that exclusive this or that argument, it never goes anywhere. ME2 counts as console graphics choice, as I said above. This is just a thread about measuring consoles graphics in 2010. I don't know why that one guy brought up PC.
  2. Yes...which I said in my above post. ME2 would be only on 360, and I'm certainly aware of that. :P
  3. PC does count, absolutely...but if a topic creator wants to compare PSP to DS, or PS2 to PS3 or PS3 to Wii, PS3 to 360, or Apples to Oranges to 3DS, they can do so as long as it's not offtopic, lol. It's their thread, whatever they want. :P We already know Crysis rules, so it's not much to talk about. PC's are not static hardware like consoles, they get upgrades every year, poor consoles will just never be able to keep up.:P
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#28 h575309
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I still say Uncharted 2. God of War 3 looks amazing, but there are some blemishes. Its just trying to do to much.

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GOW3, technically it destroys competition on consoles. Someone mention GeOW2... this game looked outdated in 2008...
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

I don't get all the confusion when this comes up, so just say "Best looking Console Game" and you are done...and yes, people can vote for ME2 if they feel that really is the best looking game on consoles.Reviews and gamers didn't reflect that opinion, but everyone is entitled to make that point in a console graphics thread, I would think. People can vote for any old standby's like RE5 as well. This isn't about anything more than measuring the consoles graphics in 2010.

This hardware is getting old.:P

SolidTy

  1. Whats the difference to saying ME2 is exclusively on the 360 on consoles?
  2. Or when comparing the PS3 and 360 libraries directly, ME2 would be exclusively on the 360. Cows can't have it both ways.
  3. PC counts, its in the rules :P lol

  1. Nothing, and I'm not arguing against that. I never get involved in that exclusvie this or that argument, it never goes anywhere. ME2 counts as console graphics choice, as I said above. This is just a thread about measuring consoles graphics in 2010.
  2. Yes...which I said in my above post. ME2 would be only on 360, and I'm certainly aware of that. :P
  3. PC does count, absolutely...but if a topic creator wants to compare PSP to DS, or PS2 to PS3 or PS3 to Wii, or PS3 to 360, they can do so. It's there thread, whatever they want. :P

Honestly Ty I've no objection to it, what I do have an objection to are the same people wanting to use the phrase console graphics king because they know the PC crushes the consoles and so want to exclude it, but then won't acknowledge that games like ME2 count for either the PC or the 360 ("only teh exclusives count!"). IF we allow people to start posting nonsense like "console graphics king" it just futher marginalises the PC in all discussions (except when libraries come up).

Cows will claim they have gaming PC's to play PC/360 games on and so those games not being on the PS3 don't matter, but why then try to exclude them from graphics debates? Either PC counts or it doesn't and we all know its a valid system in SW, so having these types of threads is as ridiculous as lemmings posting an HD console sales thread and claiming to be #1 in sales.

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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

The problem is that Console Graphics King is valid while Console Exclusive isn't

blue_hazy_basic

I don't get all the confusion when this comes up, so just say "Best looking Console Game" and you are done...and yes, people can vote for ME2 if they feel that really is the best looking game on consoles.Reviews and gamers didn't reflect that opinion, but everyone is entitled to make that point in a console graphics thread, I would think. People can vote for any old standby's like RE5 as well. This isn't about anything more than measuring the consoles graphics in 2010.

This hardware is getting old.:P

Whats the difference to saying ME2 is exclusively on the 360 on consoles? Or when comparing the PS3 and 360 libraries directly, ME2 would be exclusively on the 360. Cows can't have it both ways. PC counts, its in the rules :P lol

Ok:| ME2 is console exclusive. Is it going to count on the spreadsheet for 360, no. EXCLUSIVES is the name of the game here.So whats the point in even bringing it up. Doesn't change the fact that PS3 games look better than the games on 360:?

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[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

I don't get all the confusion when this comes up, so just say "Best looking Console Game" and you are done...and yes, people can vote for ME2 if they feel that really is the best looking game on consoles.Reviews and gamers didn't reflect that opinion, but everyone is entitled to make that point in a console graphics thread, I would think. People can vote for any old standby's like RE5 as well. This isn't about anything more than measuring the consoles graphics in 2010.

This hardware is getting old.:P

Whats the difference to saying ME2 is exclusively on the 360 on consoles? Or when comparing the PS3 and 360 libraries directly, ME2 would be exclusively on the 360. Cows can't have it both ways. PC counts, its in the rules :P lol

Ok:| ME2 is console exclusive. Is it going to count on the spreadsheet for 360, no. So whats the point in even bringing it up. Doesn't change the fact that PS3 games look better than the games on 360:?

Theres the rub. PS3 games DO look better than 360 games. ME2 is on the 360 & PC and counts hard against the PS3 library. People using terms such as "Console exclusive" or "console graphics king" to make their consoles look better on SW = fail.
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It doesn't matter. Graphics King is a pointless title.
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

I don't get all the confusion when this comes up, so just say "Best looking Console Game" and you are done...and yes, people can vote for ME2 if they feel that really is the best looking game on consoles.Reviews and gamers didn't reflect that opinion, but everyone is entitled to make that point in a console graphics thread, I would think. People can vote for any old standby's like RE5 as well. This isn't about anything more than measuring the consoles graphics in 2010.

This hardware is getting old.:P

iKINGBOBi

Whats the difference to saying ME2 is exclusively on the 360 on consoles? Or when comparing the PS3 and 360 libraries directly, ME2 would be exclusively on the 360. Cows can't have it both ways. PC counts, its in the rules :P lol

Ok:| ME2 is console exclusive. Is it going to count on the spreadsheet for 360, no. EXCLUSIVES is the name of the game here.So whats the point in even bringing it up. Doesn't change the fact that PS3 games look better than the games on 360:?

Because Crysis is the one and only King so it can't be excluded - If insistent upon which console comes in second then maybe start saying something like: "fill in blank " PS3 game is the new graphics Queen. :twisted:

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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

Whats the difference to saying ME2 is exclusively on the 360 on consoles? Or when comparing the PS3 and 360 libraries directly, ME2 would be exclusively on the 360. Cows can't have it both ways. PC counts, its in the rules :P lolblue_hazy_basic

Ok:| ME2 is console exclusive. Is it going to count on the spreadsheet for 360, no. EXCLUSIVES is the name of the game here.So whats the point in even bringing it up. Doesn't change the fact that PS3 games look better than the games on 360:?

Because Crysis is the one and only King so it can't be excluded - If insistent upon which console comes in second then maybe start saying something like: "fill in blank " PS3 game is the new graphics Queen. :twisted:

After you discount another 4 or 5 PC games ... :P
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

  1. Whats the difference to saying ME2 is exclusively on the 360 on consoles?
  2. Or when comparing the PS3 and 360 libraries directly, ME2 would be exclusively on the 360. Cows can't have it both ways.
  3. PC counts, its in the rules :P lol

blue_hazy_basic

  1. Nothing, and I'm not arguing against that. I never get involved in that exclusive this or that argument, it never goes anywhere. ME2 counts as console graphics choice, as I said above. This is just a thread about measuring consoles graphics in 2010. I don't know why that one guy brought up PC.
  2. Yes...which I said in my above post. ME2 would be only on 360, and I'm certainly aware of that.
  3. PC does count, absolutely...but if a topic creator wants to compare PSP to DS, or PS2 to PS3 or PS3 to Wii, PS3 to 360, or Apples to Oranges to 3DS, they can do so as long as it's not offtopic, lol. It's their thread, whatever they want. We already know Crysis rules, so it's not much to talk about. PC's are not static hardware like consoles, they get upgrades every year, poor consoles will just never be able to keep up.

Honestly Ty I've no objection to it, what I do have an objection to are the same people wanting to use the phrase console graphics king because they know the PC crushes the consoles and so want to exclude it, but then won't acknowledge that games like ME2 count for either the PC or the 360 ("only teh exclusives count!"). IF we allow people to start posting nonsense like "console graphics king" it just futher marginalises the PC in all discussions (except when libraries come up).

Cows will claim they have gaming PC's to play PC/360 games on and so those games not being on the PS3 don't matter, but why then try to exclude them from graphics debates? Either PC counts or it doesn't and we all know its a valid system in SW, so having these types of threads is as ridiculous as lemmings posting an HD console sales thread and claiming to be #1 in sales.

Well, I see what you mean in a sales thread, but those aren't going to change, just like these threads don't change. You know. This place is wonky like that. I just take it to compare what console gamers have, and if people want to bring in Wii, they are free too. It just so happens, unlike last gen when these topics came up, we got GC, PS2, and Xboxers ragin...now it just so happens it's only PS3 and 360 gamres ragin', since Nintendo went a different route with the Wii's graphics.

I don't think the PC will ever have anything to worry about, as it will be Graphics King forever, just due to the awesome Nature of the PC beast. Maybe they should call it Console Graphics Queen? :P

I know that console devs and reviewers keep up the console graphics debate, and sites like Eurogamer, IGN, Gamepro, Game Informer, Gamespot, GameTrailers, G4, Neogaf, and Lens show that there is a huge interest in these types of comparisons...unfortunately.

I suppose devs like to see their hardwork pay off as well in both accolades and especially sales.:P

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It doesn't matter. Graphics King is a pointless title.kittyloaf69
I agree with this. I much perfer looking at ETW than Crysis, for example because the scale is so damned huge and naval battles look just awesome too. Its not something that 2, 5 or even 10 people will necessarily agree on looking at the same games.
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[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Whats the difference to saying ME2 is exclusively on the 360 on consoles? Or when comparing the PS3 and 360 libraries directly, ME2 would be exclusively on the 360. Cows can't have it both ways. PC counts, its in the rules :P lolblue_hazy_basic

Ok:| ME2 is console exclusive. Is it going to count on the spreadsheet for 360, no. So whats the point in even bringing it up. Doesn't change the fact that PS3 games look better than the games on 360:?

Theres the rub. PS3 games DO look better than 360 games. ME2 is on the 360 & PC and counts hard against the PS3 library. People using terms such as "Console exclusive" or "console graphics king" to make their consoles look better on SW = fail.

Is ME2 EXCLUSIVE to 360? yes or no?

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Renzokucant"] which is also on pciKINGBOBi

But he clearly said console exclusive. If you want nonsense about trying to exclude the PC from graphics debates then it should be fine to count PC/360 games as "consoles exclusives for the 360". Both are nonsense just stop, the PC counts in SW, its like cows and lems excluding the Wii from sales talk.

The problem is that Console Graphics King is valid while Console Exclusive isn't. Hypothetically, say Console Exclusive does become valid. Its not going to do anything in favor of the 360 if its not EXCLUSIVE. Console graphics king is just a simple way of saying best looking game on consoles.

Sinse we are arguing semantics already: "console exclusive" is a valid term, just not in the way fanboys would like. Bayonetta and FFXIII are "console exclusives", Mass Effect 2 is not.

I have been gaming for ~25 years on PCs (starting on the Commodore 64) and consoles (starting with the Atari 2600) and there has always been a logical division between PC and Console games. SW fanboys like to pretend that it is something new.

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How can there be more thanone graphics king, Crysis is the graphics king, wouldn't the game that ranks 2nd in graphics be the Graphics Queen if SW wants to use the monarchy style wording for everything.

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

Ok:| ME2 is console exclusive. Is it going to count on the spreadsheet for 360, no. So whats the point in even bringing it up. Doesn't change the fact that PS3 games look better than the games on 360:?

iKINGBOBi

Theres the rub. PS3 games DO look better than 360 games. ME2 is on the 360 & PC and counts hard against the PS3 library. People using terms such as "Console exclusive" or "console graphics king" to make their consoles look better on SW = fail.

Is ME2 EXCLUSIVE to 360? yes or no?

no it is not.
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[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Whats the difference to saying ME2 is exclusively on the 360 on consoles? Or when comparing the PS3 and 360 libraries directly, ME2 would be exclusively on the 360. Cows can't have it both ways. PC counts, its in the rules :P lolSecretPolice

Ok:| ME2 is console exclusive. Is it going to count on the spreadsheet for 360, no. EXCLUSIVES is the name of the game here.So whats the point in even bringing it up. Doesn't change the fact that PS3 games look better than the games on 360:?

Because Crysis is the one and only King so it can't be excluded - If insistent upon which console comes in second then maybe start saying something like: "fill in blank " PS3 game is the new graphics Queen. :twisted:

Console Graphics King=/= Graphics King

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Well, I see what you mean in a sales thread, but those aren't going to change, just like these threads don't change. You know. This place is wonky like that. I just take it to compare what console gamers have, and if people want to bring in Wii, they are free too. It just so happens, unlike last gen when these topics came up, we got GC, PS2, and Xboxers ragin...now it just so happens it's only PS3 and 360 gamres ragin', since Nintendo went a different route with the Wii's graphics.

I don't think the PC will ever have anything to worry about, as it will be Graphics King forever, just due to the awesome Nature of the PC beast. Maybe they should call it Console Graphics Queen? :P

I know that console devs and reviewers keep up the console graphics debate, and sites like Eurogamer, IGN, Gamepro, Game Informer, Gamespot, GameTrailers, G4, Neogaf, and Lens show that there is a huge interest in these types of comparisons...unfortunately.

I suppose devs like to see their hardwork pay off as well in both accolades and especially sales.:P

SolidTy

The funny thing is I really counldn't give a rats ass about graphics as long as they are past a certain point. :P Hell if a game is immersive enough I almost never notice when its playing (except for framerate drops those can piss me off :evil: ).

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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

Theres the rub. PS3 games DO look better than 360 games. ME2 is on the 360 & PC and counts hard against the PS3 library. People using terms such as "Console exclusive" or "console graphics king" to make their consoles look better on SW = fail.blue_hazy_basic

Is ME2 EXCLUSIVE to 360? yes or no?

no it is not.

^^^ its not exclusive You're missing my point entirely iKING
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Crysis 2

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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

Ok:| ME2 is console exclusive. Is it going to count on the spreadsheet for 360, no. EXCLUSIVES is the name of the game here.So whats the point in even bringing it up. Doesn't change the fact that PS3 games look better than the games on 360:?

iKINGBOBi

Because Crysis is the one and only King so it can't be excluded - If insistent upon which console comes in second then maybe start saying something like: "fill in blank " PS3 game is the new graphics Queen. :twisted:

Console Graphics King=/= Graphics King

System wars, not console wars. Last time I checked there was a PC involved.
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[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Theres the rub. PS3 games DO look better than 360 games. ME2 is on the 360 & PC and counts hard against the PS3 library. People using terms such as "Console exclusive" or "console graphics king" to make their consoles look better on SW = fail.Animal-Mother

Is ME2 EXCLUSIVE to 360? yes or no?

no it is not.

So petty actions such as bringing up "console exclusive" everytime someone says "console graphics king" is useless. Especially when its not going to count on the spreadsheet.

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[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Because Crysis is the one and only King so it can't be excluded - If insistent upon which console comes in second then maybe start saying something like: "fill in blank " PS3 game is the new graphics Queen. :twisted:

Animal-Mother

Console Graphics King=/= Graphics King

System wars, not console wars. Last time I checked there was a PC involved.

So in other words, graphics talk is only for PC, amiright?

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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Well, I see what you mean in a sales thread, but those aren't going to change, just like these threads don't change. You know. This place is wonky like that. I just take it to compare what console gamers have, and if people want to bring in Wii, they are free too. It just so happens, unlike last gen when these topics came up, we got GC, PS2, and Xboxers ragin...now it just so happens it's only PS3 and 360 gamres ragin', since Nintendo went a different route with the Wii's graphics.

I don't think the PC will ever have anything to worry about, as it will be Graphics King forever, just due to the awesome Nature of the PC beast. Maybe they should call it Console Graphics Queen? :P

I know that console devs and reviewers keep up the console graphics debate, and sites like Eurogamer, IGN, Gamepro, Game Informer, Gamespot, GameTrailers, G4, Neogaf, and Lens show that there is a huge interest in these types of comparisons...unfortunately.

I suppose devs like to see their hardwork pay off as well in both accolades and especially sales.:P

blue_hazy_basic

The funny thing is I really counldn't give a rats ass about graphics as long as they are past a certain point. :P Hell if a game is immersive enough I almost never notice when its playing (except for framerate drops those can piss me off :evil: ).

I notice but not to a large degree. I only dislike repeating textures, or boring level design more so...and of course, Frame Rate drops. Those suck bad, depending on the game.:P It's all about gameplay for realz, but that's harder to argue about, I think in SW.:P

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[QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]

But he clearly said console exclusive. If you want nonsense about trying to exclude the PC from graphics debates then it should be fine to count PC/360 games as "consoles exclusives for the 360". Both are nonsense just stop, the PC counts in SW, its like cows and lems excluding the Wii from sales talk.blue_hazy_basic

The problem is that Console Graphics King is valid while Console Exclusive isn't. Hypothetically, say Console Exclusive does become valid. Its not going to do anything in favor of the 360 if its not EXCLUSIVE. Console graphics king is just a simple way of saying best looking game on consoles.

Sinse we are arguing semantics already: "console exclusive" is a valid term, just not in the way fanboys would like. Bayonetta and FFXIII are "console exclusives", Mass Effect 2 is not.

I have been gaming for ~25 years on PCs (starting on the Commodore 64) and consoles (starting with the Atari 2600) and there has always been a logical division between PC and Console games. SW fanboys like to pretend that it is something new.

I'd agree with you about the divide, until this generation (the xbox began bluring the lines a little I suppose), but now we're seeing far more traditional PC style games appearing on consoles.