The time has come for a new console graphics king poll. Somebody make one damit.
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Is it really their fault if Crysis owns it? :PI still say Uncharted 2, but just by a little. I wonder how long it will be untill someone comes in here and says "Crysis" *in a stupid little kid voice*
gregbmil
[QUOTE="gregbmil"]Is it really their fault if Crysis owns it? :PI still say Uncharted 2, but just by a little. I wonder how long it will be untill someone comes in here and says "Crysis" *in a stupid little kid voice*
DragonfireXZ95
Less than 60 seconds.
Some parts of GOWIII look better than UC2 but on the whole I say UC2 still has the edge.
[QUOTE="gregbmil"]Is it really their fault if Crysis owns it? :PI still say Uncharted 2, but just by a little. I wonder how long it will be untill someone comes in here and says "Crysis" *in a stupid little kid voice*
DragonfireXZ95
No, but it clearly says CONSOLE graphics king. The last time I checked a PC is not a console, it's a PC. We all know Crysis is the best looking game ( I have it). It's just that some people act no other game has ever impressed them since, if not I feel sorry for them
I dunno, I'm thinking the Console Exclusive Mass Effect 2. :P
which is also on pc But he clearly said console exclusive. If you want nonsense about trying to exclude the PC from graphics debates then it should be fine to count PC/360 games as "consoles exclusives for the 360". Both are nonsense just stop, the PC counts in SW, its like cows and lems excluding the Wii from sales talk.Link? Who is the "average" console gamer, as the Wii has sold about the same as the 360 & PS3 put together, doesn't that make its gamers the "average" console gamer? Seriously the arrogance of 360/PS3 gamers sometimes thinking that they represent gaming as a whole is absolutely baffling.PC and Wii arnt competetion to the average console gamer, its all about 360 / PS3.
grizzlybear1
EDIT and so you'd agree that 360/PC games should be counted as "360 console exclusives"?
[QUOTE="Renzokucant"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]which is also on pc But he clearly said console exclusive. If you want nonsense about trying to exclude the PC from graphics debates then it should be fine to count PC/360 games as "consoles exclusives for the 360". Both are nonsense just stop, the PC counts in SW, its like cows and lems excluding the Wii from sales talk.Not surprised one bit that you interpreted the meaning of my post correctly. ;)I dunno, I'm thinking the Console Exclusive Mass Effect 2. :P
blue_hazy_basic
[QUOTE="Renzokucant"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]which is also on pc But he clearly said console exclusive. If you want nonsense about trying to exclude the PC from graphics debates then it should be fine to count PC/360 games as "consoles exclusives for the 360". Both are nonsense just stop, the PC counts in SW, its like cows and lems excluding the Wii from sales talk.I dunno, I'm thinking the Console Exclusive Mass Effect 2. :P
blue_hazy_basic
The problem is that Console Graphics King is valid while Console Exclusive isn't. Hypothetically, say Console Exclusive does become valid. Its not going to do anything in favor of the 360 if its not EXCLUSIVE. Console graphics king is just a simple way of saying best looking game on consoles.
But he clearly said console exclusive. If you want nonsense about trying to exclude the PC from graphics debates then it should be fine to count PC/360 games as "consoles exclusives for the 360". Both are nonsense just stop, the PC counts in SW, its like cows and lems excluding the Wii from sales talk.[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Renzokucant"] which is also on pciKINGBOBi
The problem is that Console Graphics King is valid while Console Exclusive isn't
Its a problem for fanboys trying to push an agenda, yes.But he clearly said console exclusive. If you want nonsense about trying to exclude the PC from graphics debates then it should be fine to count PC/360 games as "consoles exclusives for the 360". Both are nonsense just stop, the PC counts in SW, its like cows and lems excluding the Wii from sales talk.[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Renzokucant"] which is also on pciKINGBOBi
The problem is that Console Graphics King is valid while Console Exclusive isn't
I don't get all the confusion when this comes up, so just say "Best looking Console Game" and you are done...and yes, people can vote for ME2 if they feel that really is the best looking game on consoles.Reviews and gamers didn't reflect that opinion, but everyone is entitled to make that point in a console graphics thread, I would think. People can vote for any old standby's like RE5 as well. This isn't about anything more than measuring the consoles graphics in 2010.
This hardware is getting old.:P
[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]
But he clearly said console exclusive. If you want nonsense about trying to exclude the PC from graphics debates then it should be fine to count PC/360 games as "consoles exclusives for the 360". Both are nonsense just stop, the PC counts in SW, its like cows and lems excluding the Wii from sales talk.blue_hazy_basic
The problem is that Console Graphics King is valid while Console Exclusive isn't
I don't get all the confusion when this comes up, so just say "Best looking Console Game" and you are done...and yes, people can vote for ME2 if they feel that really is the best looking game on consoles.Reviews and gamers didn't reflect that opinion, but everyone is entitled to make that point in a console graphics thread, I would think. People can vote for any old standby's like RE5 as well. This isn't about anything more than measuring the consoles graphics in 2010.
This hardware is getting old.:P
Whats the difference to saying ME2 is exclusively on the 360 on consoles? Or when comparing the PS3 and 360 libraries directly, ME2 would be exclusively on the 360. Cows can't have it both ways. PC counts, its in the rules :P lolThe problem is that Console Graphics King is valid while Console Exclusive isn't. Hypothetically, say Console Exclusive does become valid. Its not going to do anything in favor of the 360 if its not EXCLUSIVE. Console graphics king is just a simple way of saying best looking game on consoles.
And a console exclusive is a simple way of saying that a game is on the PC and one console.[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]
The problem is that Console Graphics King is valid while Console Exclusive isn't
blue_hazy_basic
I don't get all the confusion when this comes up, so just say "Best looking Console Game" and you are done...and yes, people can vote for ME2 if they feel that really is the best looking game on consoles.Reviews and gamers didn't reflect that opinion, but everyone is entitled to make that point in a console graphics thread, I would think. People can vote for any old standby's like RE5 as well. This isn't about anything more than measuring the consoles graphics in 2010.
This hardware is getting old.:P
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]
I don't get all the confusion when this comes up, so just say "Best looking Console Game" and you are done...and yes, people can vote for ME2 if they feel that really is the best looking game on consoles.Reviews and gamers didn't reflect that opinion, but everyone is entitled to make that point in a console graphics thread, I would think. People can vote for any old standby's like RE5 as well. This isn't about anything more than measuring the consoles graphics in 2010.
This hardware is getting old.:P
SolidTy
Cows will claim they have gaming PC's to play PC/360 games on and so those games not being on the PS3 don't matter, but why then try to exclude them from graphics debates? Either PC counts or it doesn't and we all know its a valid system in SW, so having these types of threads is as ridiculous as lemmings posting an HD console sales thread and claiming to be #1 in sales.
[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]
The problem is that Console Graphics King is valid while Console Exclusive isn't
blue_hazy_basic
I don't get all the confusion when this comes up, so just say "Best looking Console Game" and you are done...and yes, people can vote for ME2 if they feel that really is the best looking game on consoles.Reviews and gamers didn't reflect that opinion, but everyone is entitled to make that point in a console graphics thread, I would think. People can vote for any old standby's like RE5 as well. This isn't about anything more than measuring the consoles graphics in 2010.
This hardware is getting old.:P
Whats the difference to saying ME2 is exclusively on the 360 on consoles? Or when comparing the PS3 and 360 libraries directly, ME2 would be exclusively on the 360. Cows can't have it both ways. PC counts, its in the rules :P lolOk:| ME2 is console exclusive. Is it going to count on the spreadsheet for 360, no. EXCLUSIVES is the name of the game here.So whats the point in even bringing it up. Doesn't change the fact that PS3 games look better than the games on 360:?
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]
I don't get all the confusion when this comes up, so just say "Best looking Console Game" and you are done...and yes, people can vote for ME2 if they feel that really is the best looking game on consoles.Reviews and gamers didn't reflect that opinion, but everyone is entitled to make that point in a console graphics thread, I would think. People can vote for any old standby's like RE5 as well. This isn't about anything more than measuring the consoles graphics in 2010.
This hardware is getting old.:P
Whats the difference to saying ME2 is exclusively on the 360 on consoles? Or when comparing the PS3 and 360 libraries directly, ME2 would be exclusively on the 360. Cows can't have it both ways. PC counts, its in the rules :P lolOk:| ME2 is console exclusive. Is it going to count on the spreadsheet for 360, no. So whats the point in even bringing it up. Doesn't change the fact that PS3 games look better than the games on 360:?
Theres the rub. PS3 games DO look better than 360 games. ME2 is on the 360 & PC and counts hard against the PS3 library. People using terms such as "Console exclusive" or "console graphics king" to make their consoles look better on SW = fail.Whats the difference to saying ME2 is exclusively on the 360 on consoles? Or when comparing the PS3 and 360 libraries directly, ME2 would be exclusively on the 360. Cows can't have it both ways. PC counts, its in the rules :P lol[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]
I don't get all the confusion when this comes up, so just say "Best looking Console Game" and you are done...and yes, people can vote for ME2 if they feel that really is the best looking game on consoles.Reviews and gamers didn't reflect that opinion, but everyone is entitled to make that point in a console graphics thread, I would think. People can vote for any old standby's like RE5 as well. This isn't about anything more than measuring the consoles graphics in 2010.
This hardware is getting old.:P
iKINGBOBi
Ok:| ME2 is console exclusive. Is it going to count on the spreadsheet for 360, no. EXCLUSIVES is the name of the game here.So whats the point in even bringing it up. Doesn't change the fact that PS3 games look better than the games on 360:?
Because Crysis is the one and only King so it can't be excluded - If insistent upon which console comes in second then maybe start saying something like: "fill in blank " PS3 game is the new graphics Queen. :twisted:[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]
Whats the difference to saying ME2 is exclusively on the 360 on consoles? Or when comparing the PS3 and 360 libraries directly, ME2 would be exclusively on the 360. Cows can't have it both ways. PC counts, its in the rules :P lolblue_hazy_basic
Ok:| ME2 is console exclusive. Is it going to count on the spreadsheet for 360, no. EXCLUSIVES is the name of the game here.So whats the point in even bringing it up. Doesn't change the fact that PS3 games look better than the games on 360:?
Because Crysis is the one and only King so it can't be excluded - If insistent upon which console comes in second then maybe start saying something like: "fill in blank " PS3 game is the new graphics Queen. :twisted: After you discount another 4 or 5 PC games ... :P[QUOTE="SolidTy"]
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]
- Whats the difference to saying ME2 is exclusively on the 360 on consoles?
- Or when comparing the PS3 and 360 libraries directly, ME2 would be exclusively on the 360. Cows can't have it both ways.
- PC counts, its in the rules :P lol
blue_hazy_basic
Cows will claim they have gaming PC's to play PC/360 games on and so those games not being on the PS3 don't matter, but why then try to exclude them from graphics debates? Either PC counts or it doesn't and we all know its a valid system in SW, so having these types of threads is as ridiculous as lemmings posting an HD console sales thread and claiming to be #1 in sales.
Well, I see what you mean in a sales thread, but those aren't going to change, just like these threads don't change. You know. This place is wonky like that. I just take it to compare what console gamers have, and if people want to bring in Wii, they are free too. It just so happens, unlike last gen when these topics came up, we got GC, PS2, and Xboxers ragin...now it just so happens it's only PS3 and 360 gamres ragin', since Nintendo went a different route with the Wii's graphics.
I don't think the PC will ever have anything to worry about, as it will be Graphics King forever, just due to the awesome Nature of the PC beast. Maybe they should call it Console Graphics Queen? :P
I know that console devs and reviewers keep up the console graphics debate, and sites like Eurogamer, IGN, Gamepro, Game Informer, Gamespot, GameTrailers, G4, Neogaf, and Lens show that there is a huge interest in these types of comparisons...unfortunately.
I suppose devs like to see their hardwork pay off as well in both accolades and especially sales.:P
It doesn't matter. Graphics King is a pointless title.kittyloaf69I agree with this. I much perfer looking at ETW than Crysis, for example because the scale is so damned huge and naval battles look just awesome too. Its not something that 2, 5 or even 10 people will necessarily agree on looking at the same games.
[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Whats the difference to saying ME2 is exclusively on the 360 on consoles? Or when comparing the PS3 and 360 libraries directly, ME2 would be exclusively on the 360. Cows can't have it both ways. PC counts, its in the rules :P lolblue_hazy_basic
Ok:| ME2 is console exclusive. Is it going to count on the spreadsheet for 360, no. So whats the point in even bringing it up. Doesn't change the fact that PS3 games look better than the games on 360:?
Theres the rub. PS3 games DO look better than 360 games. ME2 is on the 360 & PC and counts hard against the PS3 library. People using terms such as "Console exclusive" or "console graphics king" to make their consoles look better on SW = fail.Is ME2 EXCLUSIVE to 360? yes or no?
But he clearly said console exclusive. If you want nonsense about trying to exclude the PC from graphics debates then it should be fine to count PC/360 games as "consoles exclusives for the 360". Both are nonsense just stop, the PC counts in SW, its like cows and lems excluding the Wii from sales talk.[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Renzokucant"] which is also on pciKINGBOBi
The problem is that Console Graphics King is valid while Console Exclusive isn't. Hypothetically, say Console Exclusive does become valid. Its not going to do anything in favor of the 360 if its not EXCLUSIVE. Console graphics king is just a simple way of saying best looking game on consoles.
Sinse we are arguing semantics already: "console exclusive" is a valid term, just not in the way fanboys would like. Bayonetta and FFXIII are "console exclusives", Mass Effect 2 is not.
I have been gaming for ~25 years on PCs (starting on the Commodore 64) and consoles (starting with the Atari 2600) and there has always been a logical division between PC and Console games. SW fanboys like to pretend that it is something new.
How can there be more thanone graphics king, Crysis is the graphics king, wouldn't the game that ranks 2nd in graphics be the Graphics Queen if SW wants to use the monarchy style wording for everything.
Theres the rub. PS3 games DO look better than 360 games. ME2 is on the 360 & PC and counts hard against the PS3 library. People using terms such as "Console exclusive" or "console graphics king" to make their consoles look better on SW = fail.[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]
Ok:| ME2 is console exclusive. Is it going to count on the spreadsheet for 360, no. So whats the point in even bringing it up. Doesn't change the fact that PS3 games look better than the games on 360:?
iKINGBOBi
Is ME2 EXCLUSIVE to 360? yes or no?
no it is not.[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]
[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Whats the difference to saying ME2 is exclusively on the 360 on consoles? Or when comparing the PS3 and 360 libraries directly, ME2 would be exclusively on the 360. Cows can't have it both ways. PC counts, its in the rules :P lolSecretPolice
Ok:| ME2 is console exclusive. Is it going to count on the spreadsheet for 360, no. EXCLUSIVES is the name of the game here.So whats the point in even bringing it up. Doesn't change the fact that PS3 games look better than the games on 360:?
Because Crysis is the one and only King so it can't be excluded - If insistent upon which console comes in second then maybe start saying something like: "fill in blank " PS3 game is the new graphics Queen. :twisted:Console Graphics King=/= Graphics King
The funny thing is I really counldn't give a rats ass about graphics as long as they are past a certain point. :P Hell if a game is immersive enough I almost never notice when its playing (except for framerate drops those can piss me off :evil: ).Well, I see what you mean in a sales thread, but those aren't going to change, just like these threads don't change. You know. This place is wonky like that. I just take it to compare what console gamers have, and if people want to bring in Wii, they are free too. It just so happens, unlike last gen when these topics came up, we got GC, PS2, and Xboxers ragin...now it just so happens it's only PS3 and 360 gamres ragin', since Nintendo went a different route with the Wii's graphics.
I don't think the PC will ever have anything to worry about, as it will be Graphics King forever, just due to the awesome Nature of the PC beast. Maybe they should call it Console Graphics Queen? :P
I know that console devs and reviewers keep up the console graphics debate, and sites like Eurogamer, IGN, Gamepro, Game Informer, Gamespot, GameTrailers, G4, Neogaf, and Lens show that there is a huge interest in these types of comparisons...unfortunately.
I suppose devs like to see their hardwork pay off as well in both accolades and especially sales.:P
SolidTy
Theres the rub. PS3 games DO look better than 360 games. ME2 is on the 360 & PC and counts hard against the PS3 library. People using terms such as "Console exclusive" or "console graphics king" to make their consoles look better on SW = fail.blue_hazy_basic
Is ME2 EXCLUSIVE to 360? yes or no?
no it is not. ^^^ its not exclusive You're missing my point entirely iKINGBecause Crysis is the one and only King so it can't be excluded - If insistent upon which console comes in second then maybe start saying something like: "fill in blank " PS3 game is the new graphics Queen. :twisted:[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]
[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]
Ok:| ME2 is console exclusive. Is it going to count on the spreadsheet for 360, no. EXCLUSIVES is the name of the game here.So whats the point in even bringing it up. Doesn't change the fact that PS3 games look better than the games on 360:?
iKINGBOBi
Console Graphics King=/= Graphics King
System wars, not console wars. Last time I checked there was a PC involved.[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Theres the rub. PS3 games DO look better than 360 games. ME2 is on the 360 & PC and counts hard against the PS3 library. People using terms such as "Console exclusive" or "console graphics king" to make their consoles look better on SW = fail.Animal-Mother
Is ME2 EXCLUSIVE to 360? yes or no?
no it is not.So petty actions such as bringing up "console exclusive" everytime someone says "console graphics king" is useless. Especially when its not going to count on the spreadsheet.
[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Because Crysis is the one and only King so it can't be excluded - If insistent upon which console comes in second then maybe start saying something like: "fill in blank " PS3 game is the new graphics Queen. :twisted:
Animal-Mother
Console Graphics King=/= Graphics King
System wars, not console wars. Last time I checked there was a PC involved.So in other words, graphics talk is only for PC, amiright?
The funny thing is I really counldn't give a rats ass about graphics as long as they are past a certain point. :P Hell if a game is immersive enough I almost never notice when its playing (except for framerate drops those can piss me off :evil: ).[QUOTE="SolidTy"]
Well, I see what you mean in a sales thread, but those aren't going to change, just like these threads don't change. You know. This place is wonky like that. I just take it to compare what console gamers have, and if people want to bring in Wii, they are free too. It just so happens, unlike last gen when these topics came up, we got GC, PS2, and Xboxers ragin...now it just so happens it's only PS3 and 360 gamres ragin', since Nintendo went a different route with the Wii's graphics.
I don't think the PC will ever have anything to worry about, as it will be Graphics King forever, just due to the awesome Nature of the PC beast. Maybe they should call it Console Graphics Queen? :P
I know that console devs and reviewers keep up the console graphics debate, and sites like Eurogamer, IGN, Gamepro, Game Informer, Gamespot, GameTrailers, G4, Neogaf, and Lens show that there is a huge interest in these types of comparisons...unfortunately.
I suppose devs like to see their hardwork pay off as well in both accolades and especially sales.:P
blue_hazy_basic
I notice but not to a large degree. I only dislike repeating textures, or boring level design more so...and of course, Frame Rate drops. Those suck bad, depending on the game.:P It's all about gameplay for realz, but that's harder to argue about, I think in SW.:P
[QUOTE="iKINGBOBi"]
But he clearly said console exclusive. If you want nonsense about trying to exclude the PC from graphics debates then it should be fine to count PC/360 games as "consoles exclusives for the 360". Both are nonsense just stop, the PC counts in SW, its like cows and lems excluding the Wii from sales talk.blue_hazy_basic
The problem is that Console Graphics King is valid while Console Exclusive isn't. Hypothetically, say Console Exclusive does become valid. Its not going to do anything in favor of the 360 if its not EXCLUSIVE. Console graphics king is just a simple way of saying best looking game on consoles.
Sinse we are arguing semantics already: "console exclusive" is a valid term, just not in the way fanboys would like. Bayonetta and FFXIII are "console exclusives", Mass Effect 2 is not.
I have been gaming for ~25 years on PCs (starting on the Commodore 64) and consoles (starting with the Atari 2600) and there has always been a logical division between PC and Console games. SW fanboys like to pretend that it is something new.
I'd agree with you about the divide, until this generation (the xbox began bluring the lines a little I suppose), but now we're seeing far more traditional PC style games appearing on consoles.Please Log In to post.
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