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#1 PelekotansDream
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Had no hardware problems, like the ring of death and all those freezing/over heating issues, would you go ahead and say that it would rank as one of the best consoles of all time?
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Had no hardware problems, like the ring of death and all those freezing/over heating issues, would you go ahead and say that it would rank as one of the best consoles of all time?PelekotansDream
Same here, yet to find one (not on the Internet). gnutux
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#4 osusfaith
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It's WAY WAY too early to call a console that's been out a lil over a year as one of the best of all time. You can't really make claims like that til it nears the end of it's life cycle and you can judge it on how well it sustained itself.
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would you go ahead and say that it would rank as one of the best consoles of all time?PelekotansDream

Not even close. And I'm not a hater.

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Dreamcast = more sex than X360 and X360 has to sell 120 million + first in order to dethrone the PS2.
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Dreamcast = more sex than X360 and X360 has to sell 120 million + first in order to dethrone the PS2.Viviath
I don't understand the sex comment (although Dreamcast rules), but in regards to the PS2 comment, personally to me (and to any REAL gamer) sales do not mean a console is great.
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#8 Mass_Effect
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[QUOTE="Viviath"]Dreamcast = more sex than X360 and X360 has to sell 120 million + first in order to dethrone the PS2.osusfaith
I don't understand the sex comment (although Dreamcast rules), but in regards to the PS2 comment, personally to me (and to any REAL gamer) sales do not mean a console is great.

And also, with PS1 and PS2 the sales figures are always misinterpreted. There were two versions of the PS1 and PS2, and many people bought one of each (me included)

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couple of issues I have with 360 is.

I have to pay online fee (if I want to play online that is)
They don't have exclusive for franchised games I like

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Xbox 360 or Wii can't handle something as advanced as 'Little Big Planet'...and that game hasn't even touched on what the Ps3 can produce...the Ps3 is like a good vintage wine....it just gets better as it ages...the other consoles have reached their best before date!!!

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#11 osusfaith
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Xbox 360 or Wii can't handle something as advanced as 'Little Big Planet'...and that game hasn't even touched on what the Ps3 can produce...the Ps3 is like a good vintage wine....it just gets better as it ages...the other consoles have reached their best before date!!!

jonnythefoxx
Wow kid, lay off the special kool-aid, I know Ken Kuturagi told you to drink it, but it's probably in your best interest not to.
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[QUOTE="osusfaith"][QUOTE="Viviath"]Dreamcast = more sex than X360 and X360 has to sell 120 million + first in order to dethrone the PS2.Mass_Effect

I don't understand the sex comment (although Dreamcast rules), but in regards to the PS2 comment, personally to me (and to any REAL gamer) sales do not mean a console is great.

And also, with PS1 and PS2 the sales figures are always misinterpreted. There were two versions of the PS1 and PS2, and many people bought one of each (me included)

then its a good thing that X360 has 2 versions now isnt it? :D
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Usually, hardware problems will only occur when you mistreat the console by not following all the instructions in the manual, or going against the warranty guidelines. I do not believe it to be a case of actual hardware faultiness like the PS2.

It will not be able to be considered one of the greatest console ever made for a while. It still needs many, many stupendous games to be able to take down the SNES and Genesis.

Hopefully, rumours of the price drop and cancellation of the gimped Core are true.
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It was wine....not kool-aid......
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[QUOTE="Mass_Effect"]

[QUOTE="osusfaith"][QUOTE="Viviath"]Dreamcast = more sex than X360 and X360 has to sell 120 million + first in order to dethrone the PS2.Viviath

I don't understand the sex comment (although Dreamcast rules), but in regards to the PS2 comment, personally to me (and to any REAL gamer) sales do not mean a console is great.

And also, with PS1 and PS2 the sales figures are always misinterpreted. There were two versions of the PS1 and PS2, and many people bought one of each (me included)

then its a good thing that X360 has 2 versions now isnt it? :D

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[QUOTE="Mass_Effect"]

[QUOTE="osusfaith"][QUOTE="Viviath"]Dreamcast = more sex than X360 and X360 has to sell 120 million + first in order to dethrone the PS2.Viviath

I don't understand the sex comment (although Dreamcast rules), but in regards to the PS2 comment, personally to me (and to any REAL gamer) sales do not mean a console is great.

And also, with PS1 and PS2 the sales figures are always misinterpreted. There were two versions of the PS1 and PS2, and many people bought one of each (me included)

then its a good thing that X360 has 2 versions now isnt it? :D

Suppose so. But I doubt many current 360 owners are going to get the new (rumoured) version

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 Not at all.

Its still horribly lacking in the exclusives department. I cant see myself spending $400 on the tiny list of exclusive titles that i cant already play on my PC.
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#18 PelekotansDream
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[QUOTE="jonnythefoxx"]

Xbox 360 or Wii can't handle something as advanced as 'Little Big Planet'...and that game hasn't even touched on what the Ps3 can produce...the Ps3 is like a good vintage wine....it just gets better as it ages...the other consoles have reached their best before date!!!

osusfaith
Wow kid, lay off the special kool-aid, I know Ken Kuturagi told you to drink it, but it's probably in your best interest not to.

Well Cliffy B did say that when they made GEARs, they were pushing what the 360 can do. If you want proof, its either the bonus disc on the special edition. Or one of the vids you can download from the market place.
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Well it has to be said from a neutral's perspective, the Xbox 360 as things stand is the most impressive console of the current gen. It has the best library of games, is reasonably priced and offers imo the best online service.

As for the Xbox 360 breaking a lot, well I've had mine since launch and it hasn't broke once. If I recall correctly the PS2 broke a hell of a lot, but that was an amazing console.
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I haven't had one issue with mine at all.
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#21 osusfaith
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[QUOTE="osusfaith"][QUOTE="jonnythefoxx"]

Xbox 360 or Wii can't handle something as advanced as 'Little Big Planet'...and that game hasn't even touched on what the Ps3 can produce...the Ps3 is like a good vintage wine....it just gets better as it ages...the other consoles have reached their best before date!!!

PelekotansDream
Wow kid, lay off the special kool-aid, I know Ken Kuturagi told you to drink it, but it's probably in your best interest not to.

Well Cliffy B did say that when they made GEARs, they were pushing what the 360 can do. If you want proof, its either the bonus disc on the special edition. Or one of the vids you can download from the market place.

Uh I'm not sure what you're talking about. If you're suggesting though Gears tapped out 360, then again I ask you to stop drinking Kuturagi's Kool Aid
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#22 PelekotansDream
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[QUOTE="PelekotansDream"][QUOTE="osusfaith"][QUOTE="jonnythefoxx"]

Xbox 360 or Wii can't handle something as advanced as 'Little Big Planet'...and that game hasn't even touched on what the Ps3 can produce...the Ps3 is like a good vintage wine....it just gets better as it ages...the other consoles have reached their best before date!!!

osusfaith

Wow kid, lay off the special kool-aid, I know Ken Kuturagi told you to drink it, but it's probably in your best interest not to.

Well Cliffy B did say that when they made GEARs, they were pushing what the 360 can do. If you want proof, its either the bonus disc on the special edition. Or one of the vids you can download from the market place.

Uh I'm not sure what you're talking about. If you're suggesting though Gears tapped out 360, then again I ask you to stop drinking Kuturagi's Kool Aid

Hey, I think Cliffy knows what the hell he is talking about.

Im just saying what he said, they were pushing what the system can do.

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This is like saying that "If the PS2 didn't have the DRE's would people be willing to admit that it's one of the best consoles ever?".

These hardware issues with the 360 (as was with the PS2), while more prevalent than should be (5% defective ratio is already higher than the 3% average), aren't prevalent in every console and shouldn't be seen this way.

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#24 Puckhog04
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[QUOTE="osusfaith"][QUOTE="PelekotansDream"][QUOTE="osusfaith"][QUOTE="jonnythefoxx"]

Xbox 360 or Wii can't handle something as advanced as 'Little Big Planet'...and that game hasn't even touched on what the Ps3 can produce...the Ps3 is like a good vintage wine....it just gets better as it ages...the other consoles have reached their best before date!!!

PelekotansDream

Wow kid, lay off the special kool-aid, I know Ken Kuturagi told you to drink it, but it's probably in your best interest not to.

Well Cliffy B did say that when they made GEARs, they were pushing what the 360 can do. If you want proof, its either the bonus disc on the special edition. Or one of the vids you can download from the market place.

Uh I'm not sure what you're talking about. If you're suggesting though Gears tapped out 360, then again I ask you to stop drinking Kuturagi's Kool Aid

Hey, I think Cliffy knows what the hell he is talking about.

Im just saying what he said, they were pushing what the system can do.

He stated specifically that Gears of War is using rougly 20% of the 360's full capabilities. If he was pushing what the system can do there's still more pushing to be done. :)

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#25 Viviath
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[QUOTE="Viviath"][QUOTE="Mass_Effect"]

[QUOTE="osusfaith"][QUOTE="Viviath"]Dreamcast = more sex than X360 and X360 has to sell 120 million + first in order to dethrone the PS2.Mass_Effect

I don't understand the sex comment (although Dreamcast rules), but in regards to the PS2 comment, personally to me (and to any REAL gamer) sales do not mean a console is great.

And also, with PS1 and PS2 the sales figures are always misinterpreted. There were two versions of the PS1 and PS2, and many people bought one of each (me included)

then its a good thing that X360 has 2 versions now isnt it? :D

Suppose so. But I doubt many current 360 owners are going to get the new (rumoured) version

I was referring to the Core and Premium Versions.
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#26 Vandalvideo
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One of the best consoles of all time? I wouldn't go that far. I'd rank it in the top 10 though.
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#27 jonnythefoxx
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Indeed....you speak the truth...playing the Xbox 360 for the next 5 years is gonna be like eating the same dinner every day of the week....tiresome, ultimately boring - even with the addition of an extra herb or spice here and there.....the Ps3 will give you a whole new dinner menu time after time!!!
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#28 Vandalvideo
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Indeed....you speak the truth...playing the Xbox 360 for the next 5 years is gonna be like eating the same dinner every day of the week....tiresome, ultimately boring - even with the addition of an extra herb or spice here and there.....the Ps3 will give you a whole new dinner menu time after time!!!jonnythefoxx
And that dinner menu is incredibly small.
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Had no hardware problems, like the ring of death and all those freezing/over heating issues, would you go ahead and say that it would rank as one of the best consoles of all time?PelekotansDream
Yes. That and if they put those annoying Zephyr rumors to rest right now.
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give it time old bean....before you know it you won't be able to taste everything on the menu let alone eat it!......just as with the PS1 and PS2...it's a fact
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I've heard of an alarmingly high rate of 360 failure right after the warrenty runs out. I'm still concerned about that.
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why would anti-360 people agree that it's one of the best systems of all time? :|
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#33 FoamingPanda
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It's not secret, I hate almost everything this industry has become.

But I admit, it's much harder to criticize the 360.  As of right now, it's the best combination of hardware performance and price.  Many of the hardware problems people experience are a result of neglect or simple ignorance.  You must let any powerful hardware breath properly, cool down, and rest after GPU intensive applications. 

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was agreeing with Peleko........
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why would anti-360 people agree that it's one of the best systems of all time? :|CaseyWegner
CSFTW (Common Sense For The Win)
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[QUOTE="osusfaith"][QUOTE="Viviath"]Dreamcast = more sex than X360 and X360 has to sell 120 million + first in order to dethrone the PS2.Mass_Effect

I don't understand the sex comment (although Dreamcast rules), but in regards to the PS2 comment, personally to me (and to any REAL gamer) sales do not mean a console is great.

And also, with PS1 and PS2 the sales figures are always misinterpreted. There were two versions of the PS1 and PS2, and many people bought one of each (me included)

link on how many people bought two version of one console? otherwise stop posting trash like this.
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why would anti-360 people agree that it's one of the best systems of all time? :|CaseyWegner

agreed...do you expect a vegitarian to say hamburgers are the best food of all time?

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it's vegetarian............
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Best console of all time?!?

It hasn't been out for nearly long enough to be deemed the "best console of all time," I judge a console's worth by the amount of great games on it. The 360 is off to an excellent start with the likes of games like Gears, but it has a ways to go.

I consider the SNES and the PS2 as the two greatest consoles of all time, but this was only after they had been out for several years and had extensive libraries.

Who knows, the 360 might get there one day.... but it'll take more great games.

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#40 sunscorch
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Had no hardware problems, like the ring of death and all those freezing/over heating issues, would you go ahead and say that it would rank as one of the best consoles of all time?PelekotansDream
:o you deseved me. you asked a different question in your post then from your actual poll. teaches me for voting b4 i read the first post. no. it isn't the best console of all time. i voted that hardware issue has been the only issue for the 360.
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#41 PelekotansDream
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why would anti-360 people agree that it's one of the best systems of all time? :|CaseyWegner
Because Casey, this is an "if" question. Some peoples views might change if the "if" was real.
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#42 GsSanAndreas
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Lmao All Time?  PS2 is the greatest console of all time.  the 360 is way down the list. not even in my top 5