okay...honestly...why was the duke nukem series so great?

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#1 clone01
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is it me, or was that series really mediocre? personally, i really don't care if duke nukem forever sees the light of day. also, please keep in mind that i am objective. this is not intended to flame the fires, so to speak. i care about your opinions and input. thanks!

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#2 Giancar
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duke himself... and the chiks helped a lot lol
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back in the day, the duke was a great example of fun FPS gaming. it didn't really do anyone thing amazingly, but the experience as a whole was unlike any other FPS out there... the silly humour and the lame but funny jokes made it a blast. But i agree... since then times have moved on and if forever was released it would just be a generic fps...
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I remember ripping the badguy's head off and excrementing down his neck.

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Duke, Breasts, Guns, Dialogue, and Fun.

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#6 foxhound_fox
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You obviously never played Duke Nukem 3D... nor have any idea what it did for the FPS genre.

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#7 Nike_Air
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The games were never that great , but after seeing the sweet cheesiness and humorin the recently releasedfootage , its a little sad that something like that isn't going to get made. It's not like people expect it to be a Killzone 2 killer or anything.

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Duke Nukem 3D was a classic FPS that I loved back in 1997. As far as I'm concerned about Forever I'm glad it crash and burned since I was waiting for that game since 2000 and the recent footage only shows it could have used at least three more years of development and that pisses me off.

My hope is that someday someone with actual skill in doing good games and finishing them is going to pick up the Duke and start from scratch on a new game.

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Awesome fun! now "It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of gum".....
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#10 PAL360
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The only Duke Nukem i loved was Duke Nukem 3D. But i really loved it :)

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The Good: humour, gore, lots of action, awesome level design, a very likable main hero, the awesome interactivity
The Bad: controls take time to accustom with (today), graphics and sound suck (again, from a today's technical quality standpoint, not by design)

Duke 3D is one of the best satires of our times.
I don't know about you, but I certainly find a lot of things that make fun of... well, of America. Pig Cops, looking like the buffed, donut-eating good ol' LA cops you see in the movies. Strippers. A clicheed LA. Many corny lines straight out of corny movies. And a lot of stereotypes.

Our hero, Duke, is the stereotype of the American Hero. He's big, bulky, with perfect teeth, he has a deep voice, blond hair, he smokes, he blows the crap out of the enemy with a smile, saying funny and cheesy one-liners, and women love him. Oh and he has sunglasses too.

The plot is like this: aliens attack earth, ruining Duke's vacation. So he drops by in LA to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And he's all out of gum.

The aliens come in more flavours, some ripped from movies like Alien (the game is some kind of parody, so don't get nuts about this). They're all fun to play against, and that's a big thing for a game! They look nice even today (I mean the design), they still sound nice... It's fun to play against them.

The thing is, for a gamer in the year of 2008 is HARD to accustom to 1996's controls. So for who starts playing now, it kinda sucks.
But learn the controls (yes, you can modify them, but I'll be damned, it becomes even harder because the engine is not true 3D, despite the name, so you screw up the view!), and you'll have a lot of fun. That is, if you do not moan about the graphics and sound. Funny fact: people always ask wtf is wrong with Duke's voice in the new teaser; the answer: in 1996 it was badly compressed. Now it's HD.

Duke 3D is a shooter with easy puzzle elements. Many require finding keys (yes, blue, red and yellow keys) and/or finding the correct button combination. The puzzles are a welcome break from the action, which is badass, fast and furious.

You have a set of really fun to use weapons - even the pistol is fun! Some weapons are instant clas.sics, like the shrink-gun, which can shrink you too if you are not careful, or the three-barreled machine gun. My favourite: the Devastator. The name says it all. An awesome weapon is the mighty foot - Duke's foot, that is - , which is best used for crushing the shrunken enemies, but it's just as useful as the foot in Dark Messiah. Seems that people lost their old-school-fun sense, since they are bashing Dark Messiah for having the foot as a weapon... So, you have a big arsenal to provoke...

Yeah, ummm... gore. Holy hell, there's a lot of gore. It's old-school, which automatically means NO PREJUDICES. You kick ass, and you leave trails. Enemies explode, they literally got blown to bits, they have awesome death animations (nothing like an alien holding his neck with the blood gurgling from it... yeah...).

It's mainly a straight-forward shooter with no AI, but, just like Quake, Blood and other awesome shooters of the time, it's pretty much a level-design manifesto. All the levels are creatively designed and well balanced, from a gameplay standpoint. Visually, they are equaly nice (if you don't mind 16-bit colour). You fight on the streets of LA, inside a cinema, a sex-shop, in a flooded city, in office buildings, and in space.

Many times you feel just like in an action movie (some levels are reminiscent of Escape from LA, for example, and there's even an in-game joke about that), and there are lots of cinematic moments - like those in Prey or even Call of Duty - , such as a ship suddenly crashing in the space station you're in. Everything is nicely detailed, and more interactive than some modern games! That's just a proof of the attention and care the designers had. You can play pool, you can destroy many objects (it's one of the first games with destructible environments, the main architecture isn't destructible apart from scripted events, but many things are), you give money to strippers to see their breasts:P, you use the toilet, you sing on the microphone ("Born To Be Wiiillllddd!")... damn, it's awesome!

And there are many, many, MANY jokes. Some are visual: the aliens use the crapper, or naked women „stickified" in alien cocoons ask you to kill them in a manner ripped off straight from Aliens. And the alien eggs with their larvae are epic rip-offs. It's fun:) Most jokes are spoken by Duke himself: „And I thought 10 guns was hard to carry!"


So, if you ain't no graphics whore and don't mind the awkward controls (I played this when it was still hot, so my opinion on the awesomeness is... one could say biased), you'll have fun. I've tried it recently and I still liked it a lot, although I had problems with the controls for an hour or so.

Anyway, it's still worth trying just to check out what exactly is a video game legend.

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#12 Vandalvideo
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Same reason Serious Sam was so great; Over the top action which only makes sense if you're playing a burly, gun strapped macho man armed to the teeth with expletives and grenades.
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#13 Trinexxx
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Duke Nukem 3D did alot for the industry. First, it didn't take itself seriously. That doesn't mean the game wasn't fun, the gameplay was still very entertaining and the level designs were impeccable. The character and storyline, however, were all jokes. But they were jokes that were elevated and had depth, so its almost like the light hearted parody can be taken seriously because they did it so damned well.
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#14 clone01
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You obviously never played Duke Nukem 3D... nor have any idea what it did for the FPS genre.

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you know. its funny you mention that. my roommate loved that game, but i just couldn't get into it.
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#15 hellsyeahaha
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is it me, or was that series really mediocre? personally, i really don't care if duke nukem forever sees the light of day. also, please keep in mind that i am objective. this is not intended to flame the fires, so to speak. i care about your opinions and input. thanks!

clone01
security camera's place around the levels can use in multiplayer to see what's going on in the next room . secret area's everywhere puzzles open and close doors turn lights on and off ventilation shafts you can use to get around the level faster or hidden ones kicked ass just interactivity jetpack the level design ruled i could do better explaining but that's probley good enough.
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#16 McdonaIdsGuy
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You sound new to the FPS genre,you should pick some Duke Nukem games and find out.
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#18 clone01
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You sound new to the FPS genre,you should pick some Duke Nukem games and find out.McdonaIdsGuy
no, i'm not at all, actually. i've been gaming since the 2600 era. i really am curious. i have a hard time finding the appeal, and wanted to hear what others have to say.
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#19 Baranga
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Pick up the high-res version, it looks good (on par with Quake 3) and it has updated controls.

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#20 hellsyeahaha
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Pick up the high-res version, it looks good (on par with Quake 3) and it has updated controls.

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original version of duke if you press U on the keyboard it will enable freelook
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#21 Cyberfairy
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The guns, the co-op, the main character, the humor, the dialogue, the setting, the story, the babes, the maps, the interactivity, the jet pack, the items, the music, the secrets, the enemies...I could go on.

Duke Nukem simply was an awesome game for its time.

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#22 adamosmaki
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A badass main character-check

cheesy one liners-check

stripers -check

pigs with guns-check

jet packs -check

great level design -check

whats not to like?

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#23 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Because it was ridiculous.
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#24 jrhawk42
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Personally I think Duke Nukem has been overhyped through history.

It had over the top action, and was pretty funny, but overall it wasn't as innovative as people say it was. Most games had already covered most of the things Duke was doing, and they did it better.

If you ask me Quake was a much better game

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#25 Baranga
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HOLY ****! Check out theese character designs!

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in 3 words: balls of steel
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I enjoyed the single player, enjoyed the quirky comments made by Duke (Time to kick ass and chew bubble gum... and I'm all out of gum), and... I don't know, it was just an enjoyably fun game (Duke Nukem 3D).
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#28 Verge_6
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Play Duke 3D to find out. The whole series is a farce of the American action genre.

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#29 hiphops_savior
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Duke Nukem 3D is the one thing that shooters have been missing for a long, long time. What makes Duke Nukem 3D so good is the fact that it's a satire of American action movies and is one of the most controversial games of all time. What shooters do you know that are complete satires in today's gaming?
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#30 clone01
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Play Duke 3D to find out. The whole series is a farce of the American action genre.

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certainly. i do see the American action parody.
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#31 clone01
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oh, and btw, despite my opinions, i do hope that duke nukem forever finds a home, and that its great. i just want to start a healthy dialogue :)

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#32 Juggernaut140
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Because DOUK NOUK KEM is the best video game character the world has ever known :|
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A misogynistic macho man who spews out one-liners while kicken alien ass? if that's not greatness I have lost what little faith I have left in humanity.
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It was great for me becuase it was my first FPS. I still have fond memories of the caribbean add on.

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#35 Steppy_76
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[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]

Personally I think Duke Nukem has been overhyped through history.

It had over the top action, and was pretty funny, but overall it wasn't as innovative as people say it was. Most games had already covered most of the things Duke was doing, and they did it better.

If you ask me Quake was a much better game

What games had done what duke did? None of the Doom engine games had done anything yet, and quake released 6 months after. It was took until the Quake 2 and unreal engines to get 3D up to where 2D was at the end. I think your sense of what games were released at what time has been distorted over the years. Duke was a better game than quake, but quake was better technology. Duke was the last hurrah of the 2D age while Quake dawned the 3D era.
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#36 skrat_01
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Well the original platformer was quite fun... and Duke 3D was a step in the right direction for the genre... But the reason it has so widely liked is the character of the Duke and many of the aspects of Duke 3D. He was originally a parody of everything an action hero is, but has almost become a representation of what he was originally a parody of... buy still awesome.
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Awesome fun! now "It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of gum"..... bf2nutta

Best line in the game, then again, the game is full with this kind of great lines, correct me if i'm wrong, but at the time, never a video game character was even similar to Duke, he was pure greatnes, think like Stone Cold Steve Austin in the Attitude era, it was something never seeing, not you'r typical good old hero.

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#38 creativeminded
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Blood, guns and girls. I remember it was the cool thing to play back in the day. Duke with his i dont give a bleep attitude and every girl seemed to want him, lol.
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duke nukem himself. you have the hear the things he said during the game. also one time he riped off an aliens head and did his business down its neck.
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#40 kerpal_cz
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Duke was huge back in the day.

Commander keen and Duke Nukem were THE platformers, especially coz they were shareware and you could get the disks anywhere for free. Or a dollar.

Duke 3D was cool because it went from the game I used to play on my 386 to this over the top shooter. Just solid gameplay.

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#41 gamer620
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You obviously never played Duke Nukem 3D... nor have any idea what it did for the FPS genre.

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... What do you believe Duke Nukem 3D accomplished for the FPS genre? I am curious. There has not been a single game to release (aside from Shadow Warrior) since DN3D that takes ANY liberties from that game. It was a basic FPS game spoofing over the top film action heroes. How did that do ANYTHING for the FPS genre? I loved the game, but it did NOTHING for the genre. No game, outside of Shadow Warrior (the spiritual successor) even attempted a similar narrative.
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#42 TheGreatOutdoor
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I agree. Duke Nukem is a below average FPS. I played the old ones and thought they were crap then, nothing has changed my mind.

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i never played a duke game ever but it really sounds like ill enjoy duke 3D. if i can find a copy that is. gamers can appreciate a good game no matter what time period its from
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it had personality and a butt load of it, the last game to have any sort of personality was perfect dark 64. modern shooters just suck, battle field pc games not included
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#45 finalfantasy94
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Just the personality of the game. It was so corny,but funny. It was the "joke"(not in a bad way) FPS and I loved it. One of the quotes I remember was "Shake it baby".

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duke 64 when the world was all wrong and his bar turned in to "danglers" in no other game.........
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#47 thegamemonkey
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It was so great because it gave gamers something laugh at for almost 12 years.

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#48 Verge_6
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i never played a duke game ever but it really sounds like ill enjoy duke 3D. if i can find a copy that is. gamers can appreciate a good game no matter what time period its fromslvrraven9
XBLA has a superb version of it. Go download it this instant.
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

You obviously never played Duke Nukem 3D... nor have any idea what it did for the FPS genre.

gamer620
... What do you believe Duke Nukem 3D accomplished for the FPS genre? I am curious. There has not been a single game to release (aside from Shadow Warrior) since DN3D that takes ANY liberties from that game. It was a basic FPS game spoofing over the top film action heroes. How did that do ANYTHING for the FPS genre? I loved the game, but it did NOTHING for the genre. No game, outside of Shadow Warrior (the spiritual successor) even attempted a similar narrative.

The only other shooter that even bothered to follow Duke Nukem's path is Serious Sam, and Serious Sam took Duke Nukem's ideas to the extreme. Truth be told, games are way too serious these days, and that's the reason why Duke Nukem 3D never really caught on, except for niche developers.
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#50 Nonstop-Madness
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Duke Nukem is so great because its Duke Nukem.

nuff said.