OMG... Can anyone say KZ2 = Graphics King?!!!

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#51 BudsMcGreen
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[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

 

Lol after I played GeOW2 4 times and then looked at KZ2 HD multiplayer vids.

GeOW2 has no chance at all of beating KZ2 in terms of graphics.

-Reggaeton-



Thats only your opinion not a fact.

The fact is that no one stated it as a fact. Why do have to start damage control, scared?

The damage control from Killzone 1 was priceless. A heavily hyped 1st party game from Sony=6.9. Damage control doesn't start until the game is released and scored. After Socom; Confrontation flopped, it is you who should be scared.;)

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#52 joon5646
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is it me or are people forgetting this is a unfinished game
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#53 ReverseCycology
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is it me or are people forgetting this is a unfinished gamejoon5646

Wrong, Sony said it was already finish and suppose to come out this holiday but they delayed it so they could let other shooters shine like Socom and Resistance 2.

 

 

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#54 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="joon5646"]is it me or are people forgetting this is a unfinished gameReverseCycology

Wrong, Sony said it was already finish and suppose to come out this holiday but they delayed it so they could let other shooters shine like Socom and Resistance 2.

 

 

The game is in beta, so I don't think it can be finished yet.   

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#55 BudsMcGreen
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[QUOTE="joon5646"]is it me or are people forgetting this is a unfinished gameReverseCycology

Wrong, Sony said it was already finish and suppose to come out this holiday but they delayed it so they could let other shooters shine like Socom and Resistance 2.

 

 

True. If Guerrilla Games wants to compete graphicaly with gems like Uncharted and Gears 2 (and even their own pre-rendered 'target') they should delay KZ2 until next Christmas ;)

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#56 Eyezonmii
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[QUOTE="joon5646"]is it me or are people forgetting this is a unfinished gameReverseCycology

Wrong, Sony said it was already finish and suppose to come out this holiday but they delayed it so they could let other shooters shine like Socom and Resistance 2.

 

 

WRONG, its getting extra dev time, giving devs more time to polish, fine tune and iron out bugs etc. The devs don't just wait, lol....its still being worked on. 

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#57 Episode_Eve
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It will be in February. Online looks great, the campaign must look phenomenalCouth_

This man makes sense! Though KZ2's textures aren't the highest-resed (does that make sense :?), their artistic design is superb (definitely will be superior to the beta by release). Also, it trumps most other games in animations, lighting, depth of field, and post-processing effects. I need to think of a different word than atmospheric :P.

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#58 Episode_Eve
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[QUOTE="joon5646"]is it me or are people forgetting this is a unfinished gameReverseCycology

Wrong, Sony said it was already finish and suppose to come out this holiday but they delayed it so they could let other shooters shine like Socom and Resistance 2.

 

 

Yeah, that's true, but don't think for a second GG won't take advatage of the delay lol. Not only that, we're looking at a beta build created in May.

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#59 BudsMcGreen
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[QUOTE="Couth_"]It will be in February. Online looks great, the campaign must look phenomenalEpisode_Eve

This man makes sense! Though KZ2's textures aren't the highest-resed (does that make sense :?), their artistic design is superb (definitely will be superior to the beta by release). Also, it trumps most other games in animations, lighting, depth of field, and post-processing effects. I need to think of a different word than atmospheric :P.

How about COD4-ish...?

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#60 GranReyUno
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Let's all just wait for the game to be released. We will see the Guerrilla chest pounding in February.
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#61 Episode_Eve
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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"]It will be in February. Online looks great, the campaign must look phenomenalBudsMcGreen

This man makes sense! Though KZ2's textures aren't the highest-resed (does that make sense :?), their artistic design is superb (definitely will be superior to the beta by release). Also, it trumps most other games in animations, lighting, depth of field, and post-processing effects. I need to think of a different word than atmospheric :P.

How about COD4-ish...?

No doubt that KZ2 is similar to CoD4 in terms of sty|e. But like all great things, it has its own flair that sets itself apart. Setting, art design, mechanics, animation quirks, visual elements, etc. And let's not think that GG is inspiredby or capitalizing on CoD4's sty|e. They've been designing KZ2's engine and art since the first released (which was birthed by it's own innovative sty|e). It's just that CoD4 came before it in this next-generation. Personally, I'm confident in saying KZ2 is much more 'atmospheric' than CoD4 :). (no disrespect to it or IW :P)

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#62 Blue-Sky
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

Dare I say it? When this game finally releases it will be the only title to be in the same league as Crysis.

Blazerdt47

 

Saying any game is graphically greater the Crysis/Warhead opens "The Eight Great Gates of Ownage" 

Would you like to tell me what's so impressive about Crysis, the fact that it looks like a more poly Far Cry. KZ2's atmosphere is better overall.

Well you obviously haven't played crysis.

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#63 Malta_1980
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KZ2 surely looks visually stunning for a console game... wont even compare it to Crysis because that game running on a high end PC is just way better than anything consoles can offer..

Regarding KZ2 being console graphics king, lets just wait till the game gets released and we go through the sp campaign, then we may discuss whether it will be the console graphics king or not...

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#64 killerfist
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The game looks awesome no doubt

but same league as Crysis? hmm bold statement

I'll have to see about that;)

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#65 rumtumtugger
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GRAPHICS DISCUSSION. NOT GAMEPLAY, ALTHOUGH GAMEPLAY LOOKS PHENOMENAL.

Has anyone seen those new HD online play videos?

The graphics look incredible, from the lighting to the shadows and textures, all I can say is WOW.

I play Crysis on high settings and this game is the only game after Crysis to wow me in graphics.

Dare I say it? When this game finally releases it will be the only title to be in the same league as Crysis.

Blazerdt47

I laught at you. Only high? No wonder you are so easily awed. Mere mortals. 

But any game that can hold a candle to Crysis at high IS pretty good. 

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#66 Dynafrom
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[QUOTE="SambaLele"]

wow wow wow man.

calm down, KZ2 is looking to be the console gfx king once it's out indeed... but putting in the same level as Crysis is too much. I've played Crysis on High on my PC and it's just in another level.

Blazerdt47

We haven't even seen the campaign graphics yet, that tells you something. Online graphics alone have better graphics then any other game out there excluding Crysis.

 

No they don't, and I played both.

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#67 Janton3
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[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"][QUOTE="SambaLele"]

wow wow wow man.

calm down, KZ2 is looking to be the console gfx king once it's out indeed... but putting in the same level as Crysis is too much. I've played Crysis on High on my PC and it's just in another level.

Dynafrom

We haven't even seen the campaign graphics yet, that tells you something. Online graphics alone have better graphics then any other game out there excluding Crysis.

 

No they don't, and I played both.

where? I want to play it too.

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#68 Iceman2911
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[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

Dare I say it? When this game finally releases it will be the only title to be in the same league as Crysis.

Blackbond

Saying any game is graphically greater the Crysis/Warhead opens "The Eight Great Gates of Ownage"

he same league not better

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#69 MojondeVACA
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

Dare I say it? When this game finally releases it will be the only title to be in the same league as Crysis.

Iceman2911

Saying any game is graphically greater the Crysis/Warhead opens "The Eight Great Gates of Ownage"

he same league not better



Nope,KZ2 isnt even in the same league as Crysis.
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#70 Delsage
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Nope,KZ2 isnt even in the same league as Crysis.MojondeVACA

But the Gears genre isn't in the same league as Killzone 2, so who's complaining here. :P 

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#71 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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No that title goes to halo 3 still.
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"]What's with the sudden KZ2 graphics king thread, scared that Gears of War 2 owns it?SambaLele

 

wow.

calm down fella. seems like lemmings are pretty insecure these days. they sure need a little more self-confidence.

Isn't this whole thread that you're commenting in show how cows need reassurance. There have been so many of these "graphics king" and "year of the PS3" threads this year that its pretty rediculous.

Also, it really didn't seem like Toriko42 was agitated when he wrote his comment. I suppose it's how you take it when you read it. Given that you feel he was agitated I can only assume that you're overly defensive of your PS3. And I agree with Toriko42 about these excessive "KZ2 Graphics King" topics. You guys are over doing it with this topic.

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#73 Rikusaki
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Same league as Crysis on HIGH DX9? Maybe.

Same league as Crysis on VERY HIGH DX10? No.

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#74 3picuri3
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nah, Gears 2 and Crysis still beat it hands down. and yes, i have KZ2 beta access :P
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#75 Delsage
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nah, Gears 2 and Crysis still beat it hands down. and yes, i have KZ2 beta access :P3picuri3

Really? Then if you think Gears 2 is better, can I have your beta access code so it doesn't go to waste? ;) 

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[QUOTE="3picuri3"]nah, Gears 2 and Crysis still beat it hands down. and yes, i have KZ2 beta access :PDelsage

Really? Then if you think Gears 2 is better, can I have your beta access code so it doesn't go to waste? ;) 

one use only, got it through the referral program.

i didn't say i'm not going to play it anymore either, i just don't think it's as pretty as others say. if anything it suffers from the same thing PDZ and Kameo did - everything is so damned shiny and the overuse of bump and normal maps is nuts. makes it looks like nearly everything is made of plastic, or covered in a plastic laminate. 

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#77 Blazzer105
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Hell the MP of Killzone 2 looks better than GEOW2 single player......
I am soo going to get flamed.

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#78 3picuri3
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Hell the MP of Killzone 2 looks better than GEOW2 single player......
I am soo going to get flamed.

Blazzer105

i find it hard to believe you've played both if you say that - there's no contest here. i don't even like Gears 2 but i'm not going to lie about the graphics, heh.  

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#79 SecretPolice
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Well yes, I could say it but I'd be a liar. :P
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#81 Blazzer105
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[QUOTE="Blazzer105"]

Hell the MP of Killzone 2 looks better than GEOW2 single player......
I am soo going to get flamed.

3picuri3

i find it hard to believe you've played both if you say that - there's no contest here. i don't even like Gears 2 but i'm not going to lie about the graphics, heh.


I have played both and I was kidding when i typed that.. damn should have put a ;) in my post
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#82 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Blazzer105"]

Hell the MP of Killzone 2 looks better than GEOW2 single player......
I am soo going to get flamed.

Blazzer105

i find it hard to believe you've played both if you say that - there's no contest here. i don't even like Gears 2 but i'm not going to lie about the graphics, heh.


I have played both and I was kidding when i typed that.. damn should have put a ;) in my post

heh, i had a feeling it was a joke. i don't really like gears 2 - but man did it floor me how much better it looks than Gears 1. it's like night and day for some levels. 

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#83 BudsMcGreen
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Killzone 2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Killzone 1

But Uncharted looks waaay better; character models, environs, etc...

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[QUOTE="Delsage"]

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]nah, Gears 2 and Crysis still beat it hands down. and yes, i have KZ2 beta access :P3picuri3

Really? Then if you think Gears 2 is better, can I have your beta access code so it doesn't go to waste? ;)

one use only, got it through the referral program.

i didn't say i'm not going to play it anymore either, i just don't think it's as pretty as others say. if anything it suffers from the same thing PDZ and Kameo did - everything is so damned shiny and the overuse of bump and normal maps is nuts. makes it looks like nearly everything is made of plastic, or covered in a plastic laminate.

Wait, what? Are you sure were talking about the same games here?? Cause if anything Gears is the genre that is covered in Saran Wrap, Killzone 2 is no were near as shinny. :|

I don't believe you have the beta, and if you do put down your PSN so I can add you. :) 

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#85 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Delsage"]

 

Really? Then if you think Gears 2 is better, can I have your beta access code so it doesn't go to waste? ;)

Delsage

one use only, got it through the referral program.

i didn't say i'm not going to play it anymore either, i just don't think it's as pretty as others say. if anything it suffers from the same thing PDZ and Kameo did - everything is so damned shiny and the overuse of bump and normal maps is nuts. makes it looks like nearly everything is made of plastic, or covered in a plastic laminate.

Wait, what? Are you sure were talking about the same games here?? Cause if anything Gears is the genre that is covered in Saran Wrap, Killzone 2 is no were near as shinny. :|

I don't believe you have the beta, and if you do put down your PSN so I can add you. :) 

heh, sorry mate. i never give out my details for any console here for more than one reason (social engineering being the main one). doesn't matter to me if you think i'm not in the program, i am - and that's all that matters to me :).

KZ2 is a shinefest, maybe you don't notice it on your set, or you're just watching videos.  and i find it hard to believe you've played gears if you think it suffers from the same crap Kameo, Uncharted, and PDZ do - because it just doesn't.

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#86 Ultra-Fatality
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Most technically impressive console games:

Killzone 2 >>>> Far Cry 2 >>>> RE5 >>>> MGS4 >>>> Gears 2 >>>> Uncharted >>>> All

I know Uncharted looks great and is a texture beast but the reason its after Gears 2 is because it renders small environements ccompared to the other games. But seriously, Killzone 2 is easily the most impressive.

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#87 clembo1990
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KZ2 is like

but Crysis is like

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#88 Delsage
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[QUOTE="Delsage"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]

 

one use only, got it through the referral program.

i didn't say i'm not going to play it anymore either, i just don't think it's as pretty as others say. if anything it suffers from the same thing PDZ and Kameo did - everything is so damned shiny and the overuse of bump and normal maps is nuts. makes it looks like nearly everything is made of plastic, or covered in a plastic laminate.

3picuri3

Wait, what? Are you sure were talking about the same games here?? Cause if anything Gears is the genre that is covered in Saran Wrap, Killzone 2 is no were near as shinny. :|

I don't believe you have the beta, and if you do put down your PSN so I can add you. :)

heh, sorry mate. i never give out my details for any console here for more than one reason (social engineering being the main one). doesn't matter to me if you think i'm not in the program, i am - and that's all that matters to me :).

KZ2 is a shinefest, maybe you don't notice it on your set, or you're just watching videos. and i find it hard to believe you've played gears if you think it suffers from the same crap Kameo, Uncharted, and PDZ do - because it just doesn't.

Well it's good that you think your in the beta, cause I for one sure don't. :P

But anywho, my roommate did own Gears, and I know that it certainly does have more shiny than you can shake a stick at. It's not a conundrum to say the least that Killzone 2 has no where near if not any shininess to compare the two.

Yeah I am not in the beta, but from what I have heard on others who are in the beta, the graphics are top notch, a step above Gears 2 to say the least, and sorry but no lemming is going to convince me other wise. Cause there are a Ton of lemmings here trying to convince otherwise, many (probably including you) don't even own a PS3 and are just jealous at all the great exclusives coming out for it.

So keep your Halo, and Gears (which I was planning on getting on the PC), I am going to stick with a console that doesn't RRoD. ;)

Oh sorry, I forgot to add mate so I sound like an aussie. Sorry Mate. :lol: 

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#89 mgools
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Question - OMG... Can anyone say KZ2 = Graphics Kin ...

Answer - NO

I love my PS3, but I have come to realize that most of the games I have that have "graphics that rule or are king" tend to dissapoint (AKA- MGS4). I a keeping my expectations low, so I am not dissapointed like I have been with some games in the past. (again MGS4)

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#90 kozzy1234
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Crysis Graphics >>>>Flopzone 2 graphics.

No console games can come close to Crysis or Crysis Warhead level of graphics.

As for the best consol graphics its between Uncharted, Gears2 and Kameo imo.

 

I can say this though... FLOPZONE2 WILL FLOP JUST LIKE FLOPZONE1! :P

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#91 cosmostein77
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I will chalk up anything to do with Killzone 2 as Believe it when I see it on my home TV.

PS3 folks have been going on about Killzone since prior to launch.

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#92 DAZZER7
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Same league as Crysis on HIGH DX9? Maybe.

Same league as Crysis on VERY HIGH DX10? No.

Rikusaki

Crysis on high has much higher resolution textures, has huge amounts of dynamic lighting, shadows, water physics, light diffraction effects and lets keep one thing in perspective, crysis does all this on a huge scale, I'll say it again because of lot of you people don't seem to grasp this, it renders all of it's pretty graphics on a scale consoles could only dream of. 

So in reality, they are in very different leagues especially if you take an objective approach when comparing the 2 games.

The thing I think a lot of you fanboys are impressed with is the animation.  It's very good.  The running, movement and flow of the game is excellent.  However, if you pause the game or take a screen shot, aside from the occasional upclose rendering of mud, you get low res wall textures, low res character models and in particular no normal/bump mapping on characters. 

Sorry guys, it's no graphics king if you really stop to take a look!