On the horizon, I really don't understand how Wii and PS3 can compete.

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#1 shsonline
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Historically, when a console gets this strong of a library at this stage, it would have to take a mammoth game or two from a competitor to derail it. We've just seen history being made with the release of Halo 3. We haven't even seen Mass Effect's release, The Orange Box, Silent Hill, VF5, Lost Odyssey, Banjo 3, Resident Evil 5's release, Halo Wars, COD4, PG4, DMC4 and the granddaddy of them all GTA. And before we've even gotten to that, we have Halo 3, Gears, Bioshock, Forza 2, scores of AA titles and all of the multiplat AAA's of course.

And you can say all you want about "but teh 1 year earlier release" but when it comes down to it, it was a business strategy that paid off big time. Even as fast as the Wii has sold, the games quality doesn't add up. I really don't see any reason why any GAMER would want to deprive him/herself from enjoying the 360.

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#2 Ragnarok1051
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But the Wii is killing it in sales, the PS3 will be getting the big hitters next year. The PS3 sales areway better in Japan than the 360 and although it doesn't sellthat well in N.A or Europe it still sells rather well. People just aren't buying the 360 as much as they should, with all these good games it should be running away with the competition but it's not.
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But the Wii is killing it in sales, the PS3 will be getting the big hitters next year. The PS3 sales areway better in Japan than the 360 and although it doesn't sellthat well in N.A or Europe it still sells rather well. People just aren't buying the 360 as much as they should, with all these good games it should be running away with the competition but it's not.Ragnarok1051

The Wii has been "killing it in sales" since early this year, and yet MS still is controlling the industry software wise. Next year is not exactly a bad year for MS either, so I don't see where PS3 even poses a threat. It's a two horse race, and in terms of games, MS is DOMINATING Wii.

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Historically, when a console gets this strong of a library at this stage, it would have to take a mammoth game or two from a competitor to derail it. We've just seen history being made with the release of Halo 3. We haven't even seen Mass Effect's release, The Orange Box, Silent Hill, VF5, Lost Odyssey, Banjo 3, Resident Evil 5's release, Halo Wars, COD4, PG4, DMC4 and the granddaddy of them all GTA. And before we've even gotten to that, we have Halo 3, Gears, Bioshock, Forza 2, scores of AA titles and all of the multiplat AAA's of course.

And you can say all you want about "but teh 1 year earlier release" but when it comes down to it, it was a business strategy that paid off big time. Even as fast as the Wii has sold, the games quality doesn't add up. I really don't see any reason why any GAMER would want to deprive him/herself from enjoying the 360.

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#5 NicktehImperial
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the 360 will really shine in 2008....

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#6 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]But the Wii is killing it in sales, the PS3 will be getting the big hitters next year. The PS3 sales areway better in Japan than the 360 and although it doesn't sellthat well in N.A or Europe it still sells rather well. People just aren't buying the 360 as much as they should, with all these good games it should be running away with the competition but it's not.shsonline

The Wii has been "killing it in sales" since early this year, and yet MS still is controlling the industry software wise. Next year is not exactly a bad year for MS either, so I don't see where PS3 even poses a threat. It's a two horse race, and in terms of games, MS is DOMINATING Wii.

The Wii caught up with the 360 in 10 months, it is killing it in sales. When the PS3 releases it's big games you will see an increase in sales, especially when a price cut comes around.

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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]But the Wii is killing it in sales, the PS3 will be getting the big hitters next year. The PS3 sales areway better in Japan than the 360 and although it doesn't sellthat well in N.A or Europe it still sells rather well. People just aren't buying the 360 as much as they should, with all these good games it should be running away with the competition but it's not.shsonline

The Wii has been "killing it in sales" since early this year, and yet MS still is controlling the industry software wise. Next year is not exactly a bad year for MS either, so I don't see where PS3 even poses a threat. It's a two horse race, and in terms of games, MS is DOMINATING Wii.

Off topic: Is your sig for real, cus that's awesome

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All three systems have amazing games coming out. For every game you name a PS fan can name a game or a Nintendo fan can name a game.
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Wii has the best games coming out the rest of the year.
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#10 shsonline
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[QUOTE="shsonline"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]But the Wii is killing it in sales, the PS3 will be getting the big hitters next year. The PS3 sales areway better in Japan than the 360 and although it doesn't sellthat well in N.A or Europe it still sells rather well. People just aren't buying the 360 as much as they should, with all these good games it should be running away with the competition but it's not.ParasiteDemon

The Wii has been "killing it in sales" since early this year, and yet MS still is controlling the industry software wise. Next year is not exactly a bad year for MS either, so I don't see where PS3 even poses a threat. It's a two horse race, and in terms of games, MS is DOMINATING Wii.

Off topic: Is your sig for real, cus that's awesome

Yeah. Its a flaming shot gone wrong. One of those "don't try this at home" things. It wasn't awesome for that guy.

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#11 ratzeh
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Yes lets talk about the wii and it's sales, after all thats what makes people want to buy the console.
Wii > 360 because of sales and not games.
Disgraceful logic for a gamer.
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#12 shsonline
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Wii has the best games coming out the rest of the year.Jandurin

Can I respectfully disagree? Halo 3, Mass Effect, COD4, Assasins Creed>>Anything on the Wii the rest of this year.

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#13 Khansoul
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The XBOX is completely dominating the market right now! The Wii is moving Hardware but no software so it's a hollow victory for Nintendo since the money is in software. The PS3 is not moving games or hardware so that is an easy equation to figure out. I can find no reason to own anything other than an XBOX 360 and I own all 3.
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#14 Khansoul
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Wii has the best games coming out the rest of the year.Jandurin

WHAT? :lol:

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Wii has the best games coming out the rest of the year.shsonline

Can I respectfully disagree? Halo 3, Mass Effect, COD4, Assasins Creed>>Anything on the Wii the rest of this year.

Sorry, I was in exclusives mode.

Halo 3 is already out, so that doesn't count.

COD4 - I hear good things, but won't play it.

Assassin's Creed sounds problematic, but if awesome, is awesome.

Mass Effect - you make a great point, definite buy.

You didn't mention the Orange Box.

But: Zack/Wiki, SMG, SSBB? Definite interest. Especially Zack and Wiki. We need old style adventure games on the Wii. It just makes sense.

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lol interesting point you make there TC! As you mention Halo wars and Banjo I presume u mean games that have been announced in general...so I'll show you how the Ps3 competes...

Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey(FFXIII, White Knight Story) meh needz more RPGs!

The Orange Box, COD4(multi-plat : Haze, UT3, Killzone, Resistance 2, Socom, Time Crisis 4) funnily Ps3 seems to be the don of FPS!

Silent Hill (multi-plat)

VF5 (multi-plat, Tekken 6)

Banjo 3 (R & C Future: TOD)

Resident Evil 5 (multi-plat : MGS4, Infamous, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune)

Halo Wars....360 wins here so i suppose in the nxt year so far i'll be buying one 360 game.

PG4 (GT 5 :Prologue, GT5, Wipeout HD, Motorstorm 2)

DMC4 (multi-plat)

GTA (multi-plat)

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lol interesting point you make there TC! As you mention Halo wars and Banjo I presume u mean games that have been announced in general...so I'll show you how the Ps3 competes...

Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey(FFXIII, White Knight Story) meh needz more RPGs!

The Orange Box, COD4(multi-plat : Haze, UT3, Killzone, Resistance 2, Socom, Time Crisis 4) funnily Ps3 seems to be the don of FPS!

Silent Hill (multi-plat)

VF5 (multi-plat, Tekken 6)

Banjo 3 (R & C Future: TOD)

Resident Evil 5 (multi-plat : MGS4, Infamous, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune)

Halo Wars....360 wins here so i suppose in the nxt year so far i'll be buying one 360 game.

PG4 (GT 5 :Prologue, GT5, Wipeout HD, Motorstorm 2)

DMC4 (multi-plat)

GTA (multi-plat)

cheapness1

Well, we all know how the multiplat thing is working out between the 360 and PS3. And besides, multiplat or not, its still a good game to get for the 360 which still has more AAAEs and AAEs than PS3.

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[QUOTE="cheapness1"]

lol interesting point you make there TC! As you mention Halo wars and Banjo I presume u mean games that have been announced in general...so I'll show you how the Ps3 competes...

Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey(FFXIII, White Knight Story) meh needz more RPGs!

The Orange Box, COD4(multi-plat : Haze, UT3, Killzone, Resistance 2, Socom, Time Crisis 4) funnily Ps3 seems to be the don of FPS!

Silent Hill (multi-plat)

VF5 (multi-plat, Tekken 6)

Banjo 3 (R & C Future: TOD)

Resident Evil 5 (multi-plat : MGS4, Infamous, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune)

Halo Wars....360 wins here so i suppose in the nxt year so far i'll be buying one 360 game.

PG4 (GT 5 :Prologue, GT5, Wipeout HD, Motorstorm 2)

DMC4 (multi-plat)

GTA (multi-plat)

shsonline

Well, we all know how the multiplat thing is working out between the 360 and PS3. And besides, multiplat or not, its still a good game to get for the 360 which still has more AAAEs and AAEs than PS3.

well let's not debate which multi-plat version will be better and just presume they'll be the same! Though some360 versions are better there are the few Ps3 versions that 1) run better and 2) have more features than their 360 counterparts! I expect it to weigh more toward the latter as time goes on but hey that's my opinion!

The multi-plats are good and worth getting on 360 but arealso on the Ps3.Yes the 360 has more AAAe and AAe games, but it also has a year's worth of games more than the Ps3 and is apparantly easier to develop for,so its not exactly a suprising statement!

Finally I think you have to agree based on the list of games shown I have clearly displayed how the Ps3 can compete with the 360.

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The Xbox won't have Final Fantasy XIII or Final Fantasy Versus XIII, and I don't play FPS or sport sims.

I have no use for an Xbox.

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Historically, when a console gets this strong of a library at this stage, it would have to take a mammoth game or two from a competitor to derail it. We've just seen history being made with the release of Halo 3. We haven't even seen Mass Effect's release, The Orange Box, Silent Hill, VF5, Lost Odyssey, Banjo 3, Resident Evil 5's release, Halo Wars, COD4, PG4, DMC4 and the granddaddy of them all GTA. And before we've even gotten to that, we have Halo 3, Gears, Bioshock, Forza 2, scores of AA titles and all of the multiplat AAA's of course.

And you can say all you want about "but teh 1 year earlier release" but when it comes down to it, it was a business strategy that paid off big time. Even as fast as the Wii has sold, the games quality doesn't add up. I really don't see any reason why any GAMER would want to deprive him/herself from enjoying the 360.

shsonline

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But I gotta get me some Killzone 2 and MGS4 as well.

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#21 Darthmatt
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wii can compete because not everyone who plays video games like FPS. It adds the variety of different choices to the industry that MS and sony seem to avoid. Sony and MS are in their own league in this case and MS seems to have the upper hand for now.
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#22 yuna707
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Add to the fact that at launch, the 360 had more AA exlusives than the ps3 had, right until heavenly sword was released. Pathetic the ps3's first year is. And no, its not because of the one year thing.
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Wasn't it you who I sigged on my other account for saying MGS4 is going to go 360?
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[QUOTE="shsonline"]

Historically, when a console gets this strong of a library at this stage, it would have to take a mammoth game or two from a competitor to derail it. We've just seen history being made with the release of Halo 3. We haven't even seen Mass Effect's release, The Orange Box, Silent Hill, VF5, Lost Odyssey, Banjo 3, Resident Evil 5's release, Halo Wars, COD4, PG4, DMC4 and the granddaddy of them all GTA. And before we've even gotten to that, we have Halo 3, Gears, Bioshock, Forza 2, scores of AA titles and all of the multiplat AAA's of course.

And you can say all you want about "but teh 1 year earlier release" but when it comes down to it, it was a business strategy that paid off big time. Even as fast as the Wii has sold, the games quality doesn't add up. I really don't see any reason why any GAMER would want to deprive him/herself from enjoying the 360.

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#25 shsonline
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Wasn't it you who I sigged on my other account for saying MGS4 is going to go 360?leejohnson7

No.

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#26 jessmo30_basic
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For every game 360 has wii has a counter

360 has

halo 3 versus smashbrothers brawl

Bioshock versus metroid prime

mass effect vs mario galaxy

Cod 4 vs soul caliber legends

Too human vs NMH

Ninja gaiden vs fatal frame and rygar

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The Xbox won't have Final Fantasy XIII or Final Fantasy Versus XIII, and I don't play FPS or sport sims.

I have no use for an Xbox.

-Grieves-

And I have no use for Final Fantasy, or Metal Gear Solid. To each their own. I like your avatar (pun not intended) by the way. Awesome cartoon.

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#28 Mordred19
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there would be some serious competition if only Sony would get it's rear in gear and realize they have a war to fight. they are not being aggressive enough with their prices. if only they would institue alasting price drop, things would get more intersting, but I don't know why they haven't, seeing as they probably want to win.

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#29 Ajtriple2
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There is no arguing that Xbox 360 has already won, and will win N.A. They target their games towards this part of their market by creating plenty of shooters, racers and sports games. On the other hand, these types of games are not as appealing to the Asian market, which is why the 360 will never win Asia this generation. Nintendo and Sony are going to win Asia. Also, Europe is still a huge batteling ground. Basically, whoever wins Europe will walk away the winner of this generation (also looking to be 360 at the moment, but Ps3 and Wii are still strong).
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I find it amusing how people think having good software = good sales.
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#31 maabus99
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But the Wii is killing it in sales, the PS3 will be getting the big hitters next year. The PS3 sales areway better in Japan than the 360 and although it doesn't sellthat well in N.A or Europe it still sells rather well. People just aren't buying the 360 as much as they should, with all these good games it should be running away with the competition but it's not.Ragnarok1051

People say no console has won without Japan, but no console has won without the US either...just remember that.

In pure honesty it is Europe that is probably going to be key.

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#32 redneckdouglas
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But the Wii is killing it in sales, the PS3 will be getting the big hitters next year. The PS3 sales areway better in Japan than the 360 and although it doesn't sellthat well in N.A or Europe it still sells rather well. People just aren't buying the 360 as much as they should, with all these good games it should be running away with the competition but it's not.Ragnarok1051

I'll take better games than better sales. Imaginary Nintendo stocks doesn't work well.

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#33 16bitkevin
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I find it amusing how people think having good software = good sales. HelixTurnHelix

Of course it does. Gamecube had some of the best games last generation (2 of which became 2 of the highest rated games ever). Look how good Gamecube sold ;)