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#1 FantasySports02
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Will 3rd party devs be jumping ship to the 360/PS3 if they haven't already?

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#3 bmanva
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Problem with NMH is that it's a game designed for gamers on a console for non-gamers.
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#4 Nike_Air
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It will sell ! There is a huge online campaign going on ! Should sell a million ! YAY !

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#5 Erebyssial
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How can they jump ship to PS360 if they're already developing for them?
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#6 Zerostatic0
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Sure just like Devs jumped off the PS2 bandwagon when games like Ico and Okami didn't do well. Puh-leezee, No More Heroes is a wacky non-mainstream japanese game. The fact that Guitar Hero and both Resident Evil games sold very well on the Wii shows that the mainstream 3rd party games cand and will sell.
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#7 Jimmi323
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It's a niche, artsy game that wouldn't sell well on any platform.
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#8 tbone29
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If No More Heroes turns third parties away from the Wii, they're retarded.
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#9 X_Evo
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It's a niche, artsy game that wouldn't sell well on any platform.Jimmi323

:lol: .... Anyway if Ubisoft manages to start advertising a bit on TV and magazines for NMH I am sure it would sell good.. but at the moment ...

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#10 Marka1700
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I though we voted that sales didn;t mater anymore.
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#11 lordlors
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Problem with NMH is that it's a game designed for gamers on a console for everyone.bmanva

Fixed.

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#12 Erebyssial
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Also it has the potential to sell very well. It's a pity Ubisoft are being lazy and not advertising at all. Look how well Red Steel did because it was advertised, and that's not even a good game.

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#13 Swift_Boss_A
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NMH may actually do well sales-wise even though it may appear as a niche title. The game has a hot a chick, a cool main character, a crazy story line & lots of blood. What's not to like ?

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#14 tm0054
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I'm hoping it sells a little better than Zack & Wiki...
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#15 Bread_or_Decide
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This has nothing to do with my personal enjoyment of the game or anyone elses.
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#16 FantasySports02
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Sure just like Devs jumped off the PS2 bandwagon when games like Ico and Okami didn't do well. Puh-leezee, No More Heroes is a wacky non-mainstream japanese game. The fact that Guitar Hero and both Resident Evil games sold very well on the Wii shows that the mainstream 3rd party games cand and will sell. Zerostatic0

KK.. I gues Devs will just continue to make their cute games like Rayman
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#17 Bread_or_Decide
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Also it has the potential to sell very well. It's a pity Ubisoft are being lazy and not advertising at all. Look how well Red Steel did because it was advertised, and that's not even a good game.

Erebyssial

Red Steel was a launch title. People tend to buy anything at launch.

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#18 the_h_bomb
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Yes, developers will move their games to less popular systems with higher development costs

That makes perfect sense :|

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#19 FantasySports02
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How about the Wiis only great shooter guys!!

Medal of Honor: Heroes 2

oh wait! it sold only 100k copies..

or how about Zack and Wiki everyone?! A kiddie art style that actually was a good game!! oh wait.. it sold nothing..

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#20 Video_Game_King
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So now that its obtained critical accalim, haters attack sales? Its sure to sell well (unless there's absolutely no advertisement at all).
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#21 laus_basic
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to be honest, I'll blame Ubisoft if the game doesn't sell. I have seen 0 advertising, nothing on tv and from what I heard, not much in mags aswell. Here in Canada, Futureshop, bestbuy and every other big stores have absolutely nothing on it. The game isn't even on FS or BB site, not even in their upcoming games list. Even Endless Ocean is there and they even put it in their flyer this week but again nothing on NMH.

This is lame :evil:

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#22 gomanthethird
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Oh yes third parties will hinder their development future on an obscure, low budget Wii title made by the creator of Killer 7 :roll:
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#23 Erebyssial
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[QUOTE="Erebyssial"]

Also it has the potential to sell very well. It's a pity Ubisoft are being lazy and not advertising at all. Look how well Red Steel did because it was advertised, and that's not even a good game.

Bread_or_Decide

Red Steel was a launch title. People tend to buy anything at launch.

True but I'd say if it didn't have its TV advertising it wouldn't have passed one million sales.

It's just really annoying seeing devs blame everything but themselves for their games not selling well when there's no advertising at all.

All they need to do is have a simple add on TV showing NMH's awesome gameplay and people will be sucked in.

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#24 Sonick54
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Problem with NMH is that it's a game designed for gamers on a console for non-gamers.bmanva

it also doesn't help suda's games are already niche to begin with

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#25 Sonick54
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Yes, developers will move their games to less popular systems with higher development costs

That makes perfect sense :|

the_h_bomb

you do realize software actually sells on the 360 right?

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#26 Dragonblade01
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I though we voted that sales didn;t mater anymore.Marka1700

that was tried, but the problem is that is one of the only two things that can actually be debated based on facts: sales, and hardware specifications

everything else is subjective

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#27 gomanthethird
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[QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]

Yes, developers will move their games to less popular systems with higher development costs

That makes perfect sense :|

Sonick54

you do realize software actually sells on the 360 right?

Wii software sales >>>>>>>>>> 360 software sales in dec npd
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#28 Sonick54
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[QUOTE="Sonick54"][QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]

Yes, developers will move their games to less popular systems with higher development costs

That makes perfect sense :|

gomanthethird

you do realize software actually sells on the 360 right?

Wii software sales >>>>>>>>>> 360 software sales in dec npd

hmm, good to know

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#29 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="gomanthethird"][QUOTE="Sonick54"][QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]

Yes, developers will move their games to less popular systems with higher development costs

That makes perfect sense :|

Sonick54

you do realize software actually sells on the 360 right?

Wii software sales >>>>>>>>>> 360 software sales in dec npd

hmm, good to know

It's also actually true.

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#30 Weslii
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[QUOTE="Erebyssial"]

Also it has the potential to sell very well. It's a pity Ubisoft are being lazy and not advertising at all. Look how well Red Steel did because it was advertised, and that's not even a good game.

Bread_or_Decide

Red Steel was a launch title. People tend to buy anything at launch.


Still, it was greatly advertised.
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#31 MoldOnHold
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Wait. I thought people hated on the sheep for using the sales argument.

And besides, NMH isn't aimed at the same audience as say....Halo 3 or Super Mario Galaxy. It's much more of a niche game.
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#32 FantasySports02
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[QUOTE="Sonick54"][QUOTE="gomanthethird"][QUOTE="Sonick54"][QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]

Yes, developers will move their games to less popular systems with higher development costs

That makes perfect sense :|

GundamGuy0

you do realize software actually sells on the 360 right?

Wii software sales >>>>>>>>>> 360 software sales in dec npd

hmm, good to know

It's also actually true.

are we talking about overall software sales or 3rd party sales?

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#33 gomanthethird
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[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="Sonick54"][QUOTE="gomanthethird"][QUOTE="Sonick54"][QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]

Yes, developers will move their games to less popular systems with higher development costs

That makes perfect sense :|

FantasySports02

you do realize software actually sells on the 360 right?

Wii software sales >>>>>>>>>> 360 software sales in dec npd

hmm, good to know

It's also actually true.

are we talking about overall software sales or 3rd party sales?

Overall Wii software vs. 360.

15 of the top 20 Wii games were third party and they all sold over 100 k a piece in the Dec NPD

pretty much kills your thread argument

oh ps.

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#34 Erebyssial
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are we talking about overall software sales or 3rd party sales?

FantasySports02

Overall.

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#35 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="FantasySports02"]

are we talking about overall software sales or 3rd party sales?

Erebyssial

Overall.

Actually, Both...

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#36 Dragonblade01
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[QUOTE="Erebyssial"][QUOTE="FantasySports02"]

are we talking about overall software sales or 3rd party sales?

GundamGuy0

Overall.

Actually, Both...

. . . . wouldn't that be overall?

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#37 GundamGuy0
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So if this game sells over 500K can we celebrate?

There is no way in hell that they expected this game to sell more then at most 1 million copies.

Like not every game is made with the expectation that it's going to do gangbusters. Most are made with the idea of breaking even, or making a marginal profit.

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#38 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="Erebyssial"][QUOTE="FantasySports02"]

are we talking about overall software sales or 3rd party sales?

Dragonblade01

Overall.

Actually, Both...

. . . . wouldn't that be overall?

Yes, but you could win overall and have it be all first party sales too... But the Xbox 360 was outsold in both ways.

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#39 p2rus
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So now that its obtained critical accalim, haters attack sales? Its sure to sell well (unless there's absolutely no advertisement at all).Video_Game_King

critical aclaim =/= smashed on ign for the open world nature...and of course the mowing. dont forget the mowing minigame.

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#40 Nintendo_Ownes7
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So if this game sells over 500K can we celebrate?

There is no way in hell that they expected this game to sell at most 1 million copies.

GundamGuy0
The game sold horribly in Japan but it was still his best selling game and he was able to get enough sales to ask for a sequal.
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#41 Nintendo_Ownes7
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[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]So now that its obtained critical accalim, haters attack sales? Its sure to sell well (unless there's absolutely no advertisement at all).p2rus

critical aclaim =/= smashed on ign for the open world nature...and of course the mowing. dont forget the mowing minigame.

Who cares if IGN did that they still said it was a good game to get, but other Critics said it was really good IGN gave it the lowest score.
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#42 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="p2rus"]

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]So now that its obtained critical accalim, haters attack sales? Its sure to sell well (unless there's absolutely no advertisement at all).Nintendo_Ownes7

critical aclaim =/= smashed on ign for the open world nature...and of course the mowing. dont forget the mowing minigame.

Who cares if IGN did that they still said it was a good game to get, but other Critics said it was really good IGN gave it the lowest score.

Would you live in a city, in which crazy people were trying to assassinate each other? Just saying... It kind of makes a little bit of since that the world is huge and empty...

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#43 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]

So if this game sells over 500K can we celebrate?

There is no way in hell that they expected this game to sell at most 1 million copies.

Nintendo_Ownes7

The game sold horribly in Japan but it was still his best selling game and he was able to get enough sales to ask for a sequal.

If this game sells 100K, Im sure Sudo 51 will be celebrating... after Japans rejection of the game.

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#44 legend26
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NMH may actually do well sales-wise even though it may appear as a niche title. The game has a hot a chick, a cool main character, a crazy story line & lots of blood. What's not to like ?

Swift_Boss_A
which is why american audinences will eat it up.
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#45 p2rus
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[QUOTE="p2rus"]

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]So now that its obtained critical accalim, haters attack sales? Its sure to sell well (unless there's absolutely no advertisement at all).Nintendo_Ownes7

critical aclaim =/= smashed on ign for the open world nature...and of course the mowing. dont forget the mowing minigame.

Who cares if IGN did that they still said it was a good game to get, but other Critics said it was really good IGN gave it the lowest score.

no i just thought it was interesting that a whole lot (aka every) critique by ign was not included in the gs review. as a matter of fact there were barely any critiques of the game at all in the review on gs...maybe they should be a little bit more hesitant to hand out aaa's like candy and start actually asking: "hey whats good with this game. and what doesnt work?"

because a lot of the time it seems that theyre just like ohh look it does this right and this right. But what about the problems! not even a paragraph devoted to the shortcomings of the game.

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#46 Hexagon_777
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How about the Wiis only great shooter guys!!

Medal of Honor: Heroes 2

oh wait! it sold only 100k copies..

or how about Zack and Wiki everyone?! A kiddie art ****that actually was a good game!! oh wait.. it sold nothing..

FantasySports02

lol wut

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#47 Serraph105
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you might be right it very well could flop in sales but i wont be part of the reason it does that
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#48 cosmostein77
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It's a niche, artsy game that wouldn't sell well on any platform.Jimmi323

What he said,

But in a Micheal Jackson voice.

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#49 Serraph105
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oh and if sales dont matter why would they jump ship or do they matter all of a sudden?
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#50 Erebyssial
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How about the Wiis only great shooter guys!!

Medal of Honor: Heroes 2

oh wait! it sold only 100k copies..

FantasySports02

Metroid Prime 3 and RE4 sold more than 1 million copies.

Even so, according to you haters, teh sales dun matterz? AMIRITE?!?11?