One major advantage of the NGP over 3DS

It's just so amazingly epic it's difficult to believe, the NGP might have the ability to be used as a controller for the PS3!!!!11

If the rumor is true, it pretty much cements the role of the NGP, not as a different system but as the little sibling of the PS3 getting all the hand-me-downs :lol:

NGP has ALL the advantages over the 3DS, except the one that will make 3DS win: the Nintendo franchises.

So you can have even crappier triggers?MFDOOM1983

So you can have even crappier triggers?MFDOOM1983

NGP has ALL the advantages over the 3DS, except the one that will make 3DS win: the Nintendo franchises.

GreenGoblin2099

So you are smarter than they tell me :shock:

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]So you can have even crappier triggers?hockeyruler12

If you complain about a controller, you just simply aren't good at gaming.

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

NGP has ALL the advantages over the 3DS, except the one that will make 3DS win: the Nintendo franchises.

Raymundo_Manuel

So you are smarter than they tell me :shock:

You guys should listen to what I say, like ALWAYS!!! ;)

NGP has ALL the advantages over the 3DS, except the one that will make 3DS win: the Nintendo franchises.

GreenGoblin2099

They didnt help Nintendo back then with N64 and GC so stop acting like if Nintendo games are a gift from the gods.

I keep saying this

People don't want to buy a portable to replace a home console, yet. I think that's awesome that I could play Uncharted on the go, But I'd rather play it on my TV in my own home on my PS3.

Also, no the NGP can't be a PS3 controller. It only has L1/R1 to my knowledge.

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

NGP has ALL the advantages over the 3DS, except the one that will make 3DS win: the Nintendo franchises.

Kashiwaba

They didnt help Nintendo back then with N64 and GC so stop acting like if Nintendo games are a gift from the gods.

I would've reduced it to a single franchise TBH, cuz after years and years of hearing/reading about how that franchise is all people needs to be happy with the Ninty handhelds, it has been engraved on my mind (not that I feel the same, I'm talking about the comment). BUT being fair as I am, I wanted to include ALL the Ninty franchises so it didn't sound really farfetched.

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

NGP has ALL the advantages over the 3DS, except the one that will make 3DS win: the Nintendo franchises.

Kashiwaba

They didnt help Nintendo back then with N64 and GC so stop acting like if Nintendo games are a gift from the gods.

To be fair he has a point. It didn't seem like people really cared about Sony's ips on PSP. Some sold terribly, and some sold ok. I mean, what was the highest selling game on PSP? GTA at like 5 Million? Not bad, but definetly GameCube territory with your highest selling games being 1/5 the total sales of your competitors big games.

Doesn't make those games bad of course, it just seems to me that consumer response was lukewarm for the IPs on the PSP, and for the most part those IPs are the "big" NGP games coming out.

Also, all this talk about NGP's hardware and its "advantages" is going to make for a funny pay off when the official specs are much lower than people are expecting. (like they very well could be) the forums will go wild with the fact that all the NGP will be is a iPod Touch with buttons. We don't know where the clock speeds, etc are.

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

NGP has ALL the advantages over the 3DS, except the one that will make 3DS win: the Nintendo franchises.

GreenGoblin2099

They didnt help Nintendo back then with N64 and GC so stop acting like if Nintendo games are a gift from the gods.

I would've reduced it to a single franchise TBH, cuz after years and years of hearing/reading about how that franchise is all people needs to be happy with the Ninty handhelds, it has been engraved on my mind (not that I feel the same, I'm talking about the comment). BUT being fair as I am, I wanted to include ALL the Ninty franchises so it didn't sound really farfetched.

Are we talking about Pokemon here if so I will let it slide :P.

I keep saying this

People don't want to buy a portable to replace a home console, yet. I think that's awesome that I could play Uncharted on the go, But I'd rather play it on my TV in my own home on my PS3.

Also, no the NGP can't be a PS3 controller. It only has L1/R1 to my knowledge.

darth-pyschosis

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]So you can have even crappier triggers?Cherokee_Jack

[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

NGP has ALL the advantages over the 3DS, except the one that will make 3DS win: the Nintendo franchises.

GreenGoblin2099

So you are smarter than they tell me :shock:

You guys should listen to what I say, like ALWAYS!!! ;)

I do I do!!!!!

It's the other people that have a problem with you! Not me! Never :)

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

NGP has ALL the advantages over the 3DS, except the one that will make 3DS win: the Nintendo franchises.

darth-pyschosis

They didnt help Nintendo back then with N64 and GC so stop acting like if Nintendo games are a gift from the gods.

To be fair he has a point. It didn't seem like people really cared about Sony's ips on PSP. Some sold terribly, and some sold ok. I mean, what was the highest selling game on PSP? GTA at like 5 Million? Not bad, but definetly GameCube territory with your highest selling games being 1/5 the total sales of your competitors big games.

Doesn't make those games bad of course, it just seems to me that consumer response was lukewarm for the IPs on the PSP, and for the most part those IPs are the "big" NGP games coming out.

Also, all this talk about NGP's hardware and its "advantages" is going to make for a funny pay off when the official specs are much lower than people are expecting. (like they very well could be) the forums will go wild with the fact that all the NGP will be is a iPod Touch with buttons. We don't know where the clock speeds, etc are.

Better than N64 ports.babyeatermax

Why choose a PS3 port when you can buy the original for the PS3?

Better than N64 ports.babyeatermax

You'd be lacking an R2 and L2 button. I wonder how they'd work around that... Maybe through use of the touchpad?

NGP is better because of nintendos habit of using old hardware.Nick3306

[QUOTE="babyeatermax"]Better than N64 ports.yellonet

Why choose a PS3 port when you can buy the original for the PS3?

Seems pointless........but it's better than those cheap 3rd party controllers.

The 3DS will be easier to develope for and will cost less. 3DS already has the supreme advantage and same advantage the DS had last gen...

The current PSP can be used as a controller for the PS3, albeit one without a second analog stick and only two shoulder buttons. So not many games can be played with it. And it takes about half an hour of messing round configuring it. And for a handheld, the PSP is pretty uncomfortable to hold in your hands. In fact, Sony really need to sort themselves out with this. The PS3 controller is way too small and playing it for anything over an hour makes my hands cramp up. Although I prefer the PS3, I'll buy cross-platform games on the Xbox just because the controller is more comfortable. Does anyone else have a problem with this or is it just beacuse I've got giant, spade-like hands. To lose software sales on the basis of a poor controller is pretty shambolic.

Anyway beware marketing hype for NGP. I haven't heard anything yet about new gimmicks etc. that wasn't said midway through the last decade about the old PSP and much of it didn't turn out as promised. Will probably still get one though cos I'm a sucker.

[QUOTE="yellonet"] [QUOTE="babyeatermax"]Better than N64 ports.babyeatermax

[QUOTE="babyeatermax"][QUOTE="yellonet"]No it isn't, the N64 isn't available any longer so those games can need to be remade for people that haven't played them.

Why choose a PS3 port when you can buy the original for the PS3?

yellonet

Yes, but those are the originals, with the 3DS remakes you get better versions of the games. With a PS3 port for NGP you'll likely get a crappier version.
The inherent similarites of the NGP and old ****home consoles will bring it many more ports than the 3DS will get.

lol, sounds great ^^ I hope they include something like the memory sticks of the Dreamcast, to have some mini games on the NGP to uinlock stuff for the PS3 game

So the NGP is adding a feature that destroys all convenience of being a handheld? If you're going to use a PS3 controller to play NGP games, why not just play games on a PS3?

So the NGP is adding a feature that destroys all convenience of being a handheld? If you're going to use a PS3 controller to play NGP games, why not just play games on a PS3?

blizzvalve

Are we talking about Pokemon here if so I will let it slide :P.

Kashiwaba

You know it, I know it, everybody knows it... so I'll pretend you never tried to refute my comment :P

I do I do!!!!!

It's the other people that have a problem with you! Not me! Never :)

Raymundo_Manuel

No wonder why you're the coolest around here... :D

It's just so amazingly epic it's difficult to believe, the NGP might have the ability to be used as a controller for the PS3!!!!11

If the rumor is true, it pretty much cements the role of the NGP, not as a different system but as the little sibling of the PS3 getting all the hand-me-downs :lol:

yellonet

This thread just made my day. XD

[QUOTE="blizzvalve"]

So the NGP is adding a feature that destroys all convenience of being a handheld? If you're going to use a PS3 controller to play NGP games, why not just play games on a PS3?

MFDOOM1983

*reads thread again*

whoops, my bad. Read it wrong. but still, why would anyone use a handheld as a controller if it has smaller buttons/analog sticks?

[QUOTE="yellonet"]

[QUOTE="babyeatermax"] I can get OoT and Starfox on the VC.MFDOOM1983

Yes, but those are the originals, with the 3DS remakes you get better versions of the games. With a PS3 port for NGP you'll likely get a crappier version.
The inherent similarites of the NGP and old ****home consoles will bring it many more ports than the 3DS will get.

I can see it now, the need to justify the touch functions will make the ports utilize them in some gimmicky way also making the control worse than in the original game. The review will say "We already played this on PS3/360 but with better visuals and with better control" and then score it .5 below the score of the home console version :lol:

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="blizzvalve"]

So the NGP is adding a feature that destroys all convenience of being a handheld? If you're going to use a PS3 controller to play NGP games, why not just play games on a PS3?

blizzvalve

*reads thread again*

whoops, my bad. Read it wrong. but still, why would anyone use a handheld as a controller if it has smaller buttons/analog sticks?

[QUOTE="Nick3306"]NGP is better because of nintendos habit of using old hardware.yellonet

[QUOTE="yellonet"]

[QUOTE="Nick3306"]NGP is better because of nintendos habit of using old hardware.Nick3306

NGP is going to overheat and get the YLOD

NGP is going to overheat and get the YLOD

BIacckAce

I love how you really can't come up with a smart comment to bash it lol

Even if the touchpad on the back could substitute for the triggers, what about L3 and R3?ThePlothole

[QUOTE="blizzvalve"]

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] You're using NGP to control ps3 games....i think.MFDOOM1983

*reads thread again*

whoops, my bad. Read it wrong. but still, why would anyone use a handheld as a controller if it has smaller buttons/analog sticks?

I remeber that game. Didn't play it, but I remember a similar system with Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles.

Back on topic, I ask because seeing pictures of the NGP points out to one problem I have with it: the buttons and analog sticks are too small. They look even smaller than the PSP. However, seeing how mmuch space the other features take up, some sacrifices had to be made.

Na i would say the 3ds being less powerful than the original psp is old hardware,

Nick3306

Which is why the system isn't even out yet and RE: Revelations already looks significantly better than at least 99.9% of PSP games.

[QUOTE="babyeatermax"][QUOTE="yellonet"] yellonet

Also, it's gameplay experiences that matter and those are not dependent on the power of a console.yellonet

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

[QUOTE="blizzvalve"]

*reads thread again*

whoops, my bad. Read it wrong. but still, why would anyone use a handheld as a controller if it has smaller buttons/analog sticks?

blizzvalve

I remeber that game. Didn't play it, but I remember a similar system with Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles.

Back on topic, I ask because seeing pictures of the NGP points out to one problem I have with it: the buttons and analog sticks are too small. They look even smaller than the PSP. However, seeing how mmuch space the other features take up, some sacrifices had to be made.

Back on topic, I ask because seeing pictures of the NGP points out to one problem I have with it: the buttons and analog sticks are too small. They look even smaller than the PSP. However, seeing how mmuch space the other features take up, some sacrifices had to be made.

blizzvalve

Matter of perspective maybe?? They probably look smaller to you because the NGP is said to be even larger than the PSP-1000.

[QUOTE="Nick3306"]

Na i would say the 3ds being less powerful than the original psp is old hardware,

ThePlothole

Which is why the system isn't even out yet and RE: Revelations already looks significantly better than at least 99.9% of PSP games.

[QUOTE="yellonet"]

[QUOTE="babyeatermax"] Yes, but those are the originals, with the 3DS remakes you get better versions of the games. With a PS3 port for NGP you'll likely get a crappier version..

babyeatermax

Also, it's gameplay experiences that matter and those are not dependent on the power of a console.yellonet