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#1 Scoorby
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Does anyone else feel like online play is starting to kill gaming? I remember back when you could go to an arcade and there would always be that kid who could mop the floor with everyone, so it always meant so much if you could beat him. Now it's just a bunch of faceless IDs with a score next to it. No real motivation to bother beating them, and it means nothing if you do, other than your name being a little higher up on an online leader board full of people you don't even know. I also remember back when I would play multiplayer splitscreen with some of my friends, and it was always such a fun experience. Now no one even bothers with going outside and meeting up with their friends because they could just play online, and trash talk people with their mics. Who cares about being polite when everything you do online is more or less anonymous? To me, it seems like multiplayer gaming has become so lifeless and impersonal.
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#2 Yandere
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It isn't killing gaming, but I find it a stupid fad.

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Does anyone else feel like online play is starting to kill gaming? I remember back when you could go to an arcade and there would always be that kid who could mop the floor with everyone, so it always meant so much if you could beat him. Now it's just a bunch of faceless IDs with a score next to it. No real motivation to bother beating them, and it means nothing if you do, other than your name being a little higher up on an online leader board full of people you don't even know. I also remember back when I would play multiplayer splitscreen with some of my friends, and it was always such a fun experience. Now no one even bothers with going outside and meeting up with their friends because they could just play online, and trash talk people with their mics. Who cares about being polite when everything you do online is more or less anonymous? To me, it seems like multiplayer gaming has become so lifeless and impersonal. Scoorby
Well, your on your own there buddy.
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#4 Cicatraz_ESP
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I'd rather play online and fend off zombie hordes and fight in wars with my buddies than with an AI controlled partner or by myself.

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#5 topgunmv
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On-line gaming is bad if it makes sacrifices to split screen/single player, a.k.a. singleplayer cod4 shorter than some movies. In which case just dont buy the game/wait till you can get it cheap.

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#6 StephenBassford
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Does anyone else feel like online play is starting to kill gaming? I remember back when you could go to an arcade and there would always be that kid who could mop the floor with everyone, so it always meant so much if you could beat him. Now it's just a bunch of faceless IDs with a score next to it. No real motivation to bother beating them, and it means nothing if you do, other than your name being a little higher up on an online leader board full of people you don't even know. I also remember back when I would play multiplayer splitscreen with some of my friends, and it was always such a fun experience. Now no one even bothers with going outside and meeting up with their friends because they could just play online, and trash talk people with their mics. Who cares about being polite when everything you do online is more or less anonymous? To me, it seems like multiplayer gaming has become so lifeless and impersonal. Scoorby

Nice first post, my friend.

I couldn't agree with you more. Online gaming is fun, no doubt, but I think it should stick to just the PC. Hit the nail right in the head.

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#7 TaMuK711
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No one is forcing you to play online, the majority of games with an online component have local, so QQ

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#8 tester962
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[QUOTE="Scoorby"]Does anyone else feel like online play is starting to kill gaming? I remember back when you could go to an arcade and there would always be that kid who could mop the floor with everyone, so it always meant so much if you could beat him. Now it's just a bunch of faceless IDs with a score next to it. No real motivation to bother beating them, and it means nothing if you do, other than your name being a little higher up on an online leader board full of people you don't even know. I also remember back when I would play multiplayer splitscreen with some of my friends, and it was always such a fun experience. Now no one even bothers with going outside and meeting up with their friends because they could just play online, and trash talk people with their mics. Who cares about being polite when everything you do online is more or less anonymous? To me, it seems like multiplayer gaming has become so lifeless and impersonal.

I dont play online games that often but I have to say I completely disagree with your post.
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#9 Shoooryuken
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Start playing Fighting Games :) [Still being played a lot in Arcades]

Use Online for some practise.. and travel to bigger events to do it for real

Online is a nice addition to gaming since it offers the possibility to play with ppl you normally couldn't.

I dun feel its killing gaming. At least not the Fighting Game Scene.

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#10 06350GT
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on another hand i think that online gaming hurts the story mode of certain games. it sacrafices content in the true game(excluding shooters) to upkeep online play. some games shouldnt even have an online option cause its useless.

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#11 jakehouston88
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Online is Gaming.

;)

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#12 Yandere
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Online is Gaming.

;)

jakehouston88

The.. The lack of so many games you mus have! It hurts my heart.

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#13 jakehouston88
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[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

Online is Gaming.

;)

Yandere

The.. The lack of so many games you mus have! It hurts my heart.

No Online = FAIL

So I'm not missing anything...:)

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#14 II-FBIsniper-II
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I can't imagine gaming without Online.
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#15 0rin
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I disagree wholeheartedly. MGS4 had/has decent online, and one of the best single player campaigns this gen. Fallout 3 doesn't even have online, yet it's an amazing game. online adds a lot of replay value to a lot of games IMO. Though the recent lack of splitscreen is rather bothersome, but far from a big deal.
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#16 AppleBlade
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[QUOTE="Scoorby"]Does anyone else feel like online play is starting to kill gaming? I remember back when you could go to an arcade and there would always be that kid who could mop the floor with everyone, so it always meant so much if you could beat him. Now it's just a bunch of faceless IDs with a score next to it. No real motivation to bother beating them, and it means nothing if you do, other than your name being a little higher up on an online leader board full of people you don't even know. I also remember back when I would play multiplayer splitscreen with some of my friends, and it was always such a fun experience. Now no one even bothers with going outside and meeting up with their friends because they could just play online, and trash talk people with their mics. Who cares about being polite when everything you do online is more or less anonymous? To me, it seems like multiplayer gaming has become so lifeless and impersonal. bronxxbombers
Well, your on your own there buddy.

No he's not. I agree with him and there are many that feel the same. In fact, even though I love my PS3 I tend to not get multiplayer games for it and instead get a ton of multiplayer games for the Wii since it is my party machine. I love lugging my Wii around and being able to play Wii Sports, Bomberman Blast!, Mario kart, etc. with friends at parties.
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#17 atm0073
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It's not killing gaming, but it's changing it for the worse, in most cases.
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#18 simslifer
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No one is forcing you to play online, the majority of games with an online component have local, so QQ

TaMuK711

exactly those games have single player as well ur not forced to go online.

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#19 Giancar
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I can't imagine gaming without Online.II-FBIsniper-II
I like online very much, now is becoming a standard but last gen online wasn't such a big deal and it was pure awesome...well in fact 4 of my 5 top games this gen doesn't have online or I don't care for it (MGS4)
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#20 PSdual_wielder
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Well it does make everything more convenient. For example in the long run buying a game for 60 bucks will save you spending virtually a lot more quarters from drilling at an arcade in the next year or so at least. And you don't have to drive 10-20 minutes to get to your local hangout spot.

But on the other hand yeah, eventually the whole online movement will one cause everyone to stay at home and never need to see sunlight, because you can pretty much do anything with a game console and a computer with high speed internet.

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#21 HeroKen-ii
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Before online gaming started to make a move, i remember buying games cause of the single player and the story and buying games that i can play with my friends and such.

Now i buy games for mostly the online like COD5 , i mean the single player was good but i bought the game for the enjoyment of online.

Also i noticed that if a game has online the story mode is a lot shorter.

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#22 killerfist
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Most of my gaming time this gen went to online. So no, for me it's not killing anything. This doesn't mean I hate Single player only games btw. I love them equally.
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#23 deactivated-5f4694ac412a8
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Exchanging levels online in LittleBigPlanet is nice, but that's pretty much the extent of it. I don't play with other people online. It's no fun. I play with my friends and family members. I can't tell you how much less fun it is playing with someone online. Local multiplayer is the only way to go, in my opinion. Really, I wish FPSs and online gaming just stuck to PC gaming.
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#24 simslifer
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online gives the game replaybilityafter I finish a call of duty game I go online to test my skills with real players instead of robot dumb ips.

how can u not like online could it be because ur noob at it ?

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#25 sbfriends
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This is not a clever argument.

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#26 killerfist
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[QUOTE="DeathScape666"]Exchanging levels online in LittleBigPlanet is nice, but that's pretty much the extent of it. I don't play with other people online. It's no fun. I play with my friends and family members. I can't tell you how much less fun it is playing with someone online. Local multiplayer is the only way to go, in my opinion. Really, I wish FPSs and online gaming just stuck to PC gaming.

What if you're like me and play games online WITH friends. win/win situation;) I love local multiplayer too btw. And LAN enabled games. *remembers the epic fun with HaloCE*
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#27 JigglyWiggly_
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Online can hurt gaming, take the game obsidian conflict, adds a bunch of coop maps to hl2 and you can play hl2, hl2 ep1, and ep2 campaign together with friends. Unfortuantely, it ends up in your crowbaring every npc you see getting rid of the exerience, or me doing ent_fire player ignite, or ent_fire !picker ignite, or ent_fire !picker setparent !self or ent_setname ass; ent_fire ass setparent npc_alyx. Those are all just random cmds I know from my head to ruin other people's experience. Yay.
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#28 WilliamRLBaker
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online isn't killing gaming, its developers that keep relying upon it. online is great when its done right, but when every thing is sacrificed for the sake of an online option then thats the developers fault.

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#29 navyguy21
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Thats what leaderboards are for:|

Competitive multiplayer isnt ALWAYS about getting the high score as it was back in the day with more simplistic games. As time goes by, people get better and better at games, so it because very difficult to program AI to acurately relfect human strategy and behavior without being totally scripted. This is where online gaming comes in, it increases the unpredictabilty, and makes games have more replay value if done right. You are talking about beating the high scores, or maybe fighting games. We have leaderboards, and Achievements/Trophies in the place of those now.

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#30 Avian005
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How is it killing gaming when it gives games more replay value?

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#31 navyguy21
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How is it killing gaming when it gives games more replay value?

Avian005

I think he just gets owned alot online, and now he's bitter about it:lol:. I get owned all the time because im a noob, but there is some fun to that because i dont take it too serious, and i eventually get better, and that usually makes be a force to be reckoned with in single player :P

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#32 Heretix_Aevum
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No it's not killing gaming. If anything it's HELPING gaming. It allows for more opportunities to play with real players, adds a heap of replayability to games, and is convenient. It's also a great way to meet gamers from around the world.

Online isn't interferring with the singleplayer, and your not being forced to play it, so saying that its killing gaming is unfounded and illogical.

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#33 abuabed
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It is not killing gaming but it is used too much these days which is affecting how devs make a game a lot, very few games this gen have great stories and replay value without the use of online. Online is good but devs are using it extensively which is not.
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#34 Sides
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yeah, it is stopping the proper social part of gaming, that part is true.

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#35 HenriH-42
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Yup, one of the many things that is.

I never liked online much, I've always played a lot more LAN. In any case, I prefer single player games and wouldn't mind if online died - for me, it's just hurting the single player experience and nothing more.

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#36 Espada12
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Online gaming has always been around. It's just still fairly new on consoles so it seems like it's having a negative impact on games. No it really isn't, there are some games with an online MP focus and those with a SP focus, what is disturbing thought is the lack of splitscreen games. halo is actually one of the few 4 player split screen games.

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#37 VendettaRed07
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you know how aweome it would have been if games always had online? imagine if you could chat with a bunch of friends and play against 8 people in the original mario kart back in 1992, or face of in street fighter or mortal combat against more people than just close friends and siblings, it would have been so sick.Whats killing games is that people are just forgetting about single player experiences, it seems that the only good ones now are rpgs

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#38 SparkyProtocol
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Most of my gaming time this gen went to online. So no, for me it's not killing anything. This doesn't mean I hate Single player only games btw. I love them equally. killerfist
Yep. Online has evolved gaming.
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#39 Hexagon_777
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Does anyone else feel like online play is starting to kill gaming?

I remember back when you could go to an arcade and there would always be that kid who could mop the floor with everyone, so it always meant so much if you could beat him. Now it's just a bunch of faceless IDs with a score next to it. No real motivation to bother beating them, and it means nothing if you do, other than your name being a little higher up on an online leader board full of people you don't even know.

I also remember back when I would play multiplayer splitscreen with some of my friends, and it was always such a fun experience. Now no one even bothers with going outside and meeting up with their friends because they could just play online, and trash talk people with their mics. Who cares about being polite when everything you do online is more or less anonymous?

To me, it seems like multiplayer gaming has become so lifeless and impersonal.Scoorby

I fully support this, especially the part about local multiplayer splitscreen appearing to die out. Consoles are losing one of their few advantages against PC gaming and are attempting to do something that PC gaming has done far longer and is doing far better.

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#40 Zmario111
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Does anyone else feel like online play is starting to kill gaming? I remember back when you could go to an arcade and there would always be that kid who could mop the floor with everyone, so it always meant so much if you could beat him. Now it's just a bunch of faceless IDs with a score next to it. No real motivation to bother beating them, and it means nothing if you do, other than your name being a little higher up on an online leader board full of people you don't even know. I also remember back when I would play multiplayer splitscreen with some of my friends, and it was always such a fun experience. Now no one even bothers with going outside and meeting up with their friends because they could just play online, and trash talk people with their mics. Who cares about being polite when everything you do online is more or less anonymous? To me, it seems like multiplayer gaming has become so lifeless and impersonal. Scoorby

If you don't like it stop playing online. Simple as that.

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#41 ASRCSR
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Its not killing gaming, it is expanding it, sure developers have an excuse to make crappy campaign modes and not less features as well as charging you for bonus content, but many people buy games soley on the multiplayer. Also in some games like Fight Night Round 4 you do get a prize for being number 1 on the leader boards.

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#42 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Scoorby"]Does anyone else feel like online play is starting to kill gaming?

I remember back when you could go to an arcade and there would always be that kid who could mop the floor with everyone, so it always meant so much if you could beat him. Now it's just a bunch of faceless IDs with a score next to it. No real motivation to bother beating them, and it means nothing if you do, other than your name being a little higher up on an online leader board full of people you don't even know.

I also remember back when I would play multiplayer splitscreen with some of my friends, and it was always such a fun experience. Now no one even bothers with going outside and meeting up with their friends because they could just play online, and trash talk people with their mics. Who cares about being polite when everything you do online is more or less anonymous?

To me, it seems like multiplayer gaming has become so lifeless and impersonal.bronxxbombers

Well, your on your own there buddy.

No, he's not.

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#43 eveileb-ekam
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I guess it certainly contributes to the cost of development which, as we all know, is a major pain for the industry right now. Also, online is just not good for a lot of games. Its almost being used as a gimmick to generate sales. I dont like it when significant content is cut / just not done in order to accomodate it.

I wish games were cheaper to make :(

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#44 Hexagon_777
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No one is forcing you to play online, the majority of games with an online component have local, so QQTaMuK711

Yet big games like Resistance 2, Killzone 2, The Orange Box and Unreal Tournament 3 don't have local splitscreen multiplayer. I believe Call of Duty: World at War doesn't have local splitscreen multiplayer either.

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#45 o0squishy0o
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Its like your saying we shouldnt have world championships because people like yourself cant no deal with being beaten by people who you do not personally know. If you said developers concentrating on Online play has ruined the core gaming (single player) then I would agree to a point but to say its ruined gaming?? no way has it.

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#46 bri360
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[QUOTE="TaMuK711"]

No one is forcing you to play online, the majority of games with an online component have local, so QQHexagon_777

Yet big games like Resistance 2, Killzone 2, The Orange Box and Unreal Tournament 3 don't have local splitscreen multiplayer. I believe Call of Duty: World at War doesn't have local splitscreen multiplayer either.

Yea I hate that, your friends come over, oh cool you got ______, u pop it in, no multiplayer other than online....... This has happend to me sooo many times. Whats the point. I would rather play with friends in person then online with random ppl or even online with friends. COD WAW does have split though. Plus alot of games focus too much on online content etc, and they do a crappy job with the rest of the game.

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#47 o0squishy0o
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[QUOTE="TaMuK711"]

No one is forcing you to play online, the majority of games with an online component have local, so QQHexagon_777

Yet big games like Resistance 2, Killzone 2, The Orange Box and Unreal Tournament 3 don't have local splitscreen multiplayer. I believe Call of Duty: World at War doesn't have local splitscreen multiplayer either.

Internets fault or developers fault plus UT3 does have splitscreen.... maybe its just the ps3 your obviously playing hasnt got any spiltscreen games ;) Haha
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#48 surrealnumber5
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console fanboys who buy every shooter and call it the best game ever are killing gaming....... if anything
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#49 Mckenna1845
Member since 2005 • 4410 Posts

i like it, but i hate when they gimp the single player game as an excuse to make online. would anyone really buy codwaw without the online portion. the single player was short and really poor compared to cod4's (which was also short).

A game should balance the two like killzone 2 or halo 3 that had both that are very good. cod should either go fully online or work harder on what originally made its name the single player.

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#50 o0squishy0o
Member since 2007 • 2802 Posts
console fanboys who buy every shooter and call it the best game ever are killing gaming....... if anything surrealnumber5
Same as PC and piracy huh ;)