PGR4>>>GT5

OMG WOW PGR4 looks freaking INCREDIBLE. The weather effects look as real as it gets.

Not to mention PGR online is by far the funnest online racing there is.

OMG WOW PGR4 looks freaking INCREDIBLE. The weather effects look as real as it gets.

Not to mention PGR online is by far the funnest online racing there is.

The_Trash_Man07

Yes, the game looks nice. Gameplay will determine whether its good or not... :shock:

PGR is trash, dont compare it to GT. PGR and Gt shouldn't even be in the same sentence or paragraph. LOL compare it forza or ridge racer.ff7isnumbaone

Um, Forza is more of a hardcore sim than GT. :|

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OMG WOW PGR4 looks freaking INCREDIBLE. The weather effects look as real as it gets.

Not to mention PGR online is by far the funnest online racing there is.

Magical_Zebra

Yes, the game looks nice. Gameplay will determine whether its good or not... :shock:

The gameplay of PGR3 was great and it even had some model damage and online and in car view and looked great. Not bad for a launch game if you ask me. Anyway yes PGR4 will be AMAZING it has motorcyles racing with cars it will be SICK!!!

Lemmings are now doing what cows did with GT5. Hyping the graphics without knowing how the gameplay has evolved. Tone it back for a sec, say how pretty the game is, and wait for it to launch.Ibacai

LOL, I was just about to say that..

[QUOTE="The_Trash_Man07"]

OMG WOW PGR4 looks freaking INCREDIBLE. The weather effects look as real as it gets.

Not to mention PGR online is by far the funnest online racing there is.

Magical_Zebra

Yes, the game looks nice. Gameplay will determine whether its good or not... :shock:

Its PGR, if havent played any of the previous games by now, I highly suggest you do.

never played forza, but i know for a fact PGR is trash.ff7isnumbaone

PGR is trash, dont compare it to GT. PGR and Gt shouldn't even be in the same sentence or paragraph. LOL compare it to forza or ridge racer.ff7isnumbaone

Er... what? PGR is a cross between an arcade racer and a simulation. Forza is a sim. Ridge Racer is an arcade game. In other words; your comparison blows.

PGR is nothing like Forza, or Ridge Racer.

never played forza, but i know for a fact PGR is trash.ff7isnumbaone

The last two both got really good reviews. :| Are you sure it isn't just trash because you cant play it on the only console you own? :|

Video looks nice with motion blur and other non-gameplay effects added

Too bad all the screens look like trash compared to GT5: Prologue, though

never played forza, but i know for a fact PGR is trash.ff7isnumbaone

I just can not take you as credibile. For one i know i've played them and they ROCK. And two,According to Gamespot as we all say it's Gamespot that counts in game score.

Well go figure Gamespot think they ROCK also.

http://www.gamespot.com/search.html?type=11&stype=all&qs=pgr&x=35&y=6

I really hated PGR 3.ff7isnumbaone

You dont own an xbox 360 on which to play PGR3.

I really hated PGR 3.ff7isnumbaone

Well you must of not been good at the game becuase it was an amazing racer. It had great graphics gameplay and online in car view and damage. And it was a launch game that scored 8.8 from Gamespot so your in a very low minority i guess.

[QUOTE="ff7isnumbaone"]never played forza, but i know for a fact PGR is trash.The_Trash_Man07

I just can not take you as credibile. For one i know i've played them and they ROCK. And two,According to Gamespot as we all say it's Gamespot that counts in game score.

Well go figure Gamespot think they ROCK also.

http://www.gamespot.com/search.html?type=11&stype=all&qs=pgr&x=35&y=6

dont care what you think, but lemmings are out of your mind if u think PGR is on the same level as GT. Way under. Real gamers dont sit there and talk about scores. From what read from lemmings Perfect dark suck and that got AAA.

[QUOTE="ff7isnumbaone"]I really hated PGR 3.Ninja-Vox

You dont own an xbox 360 on which to play PGR3.

Look at his pic he is cleary a Sony fanboy

[QUOTE="ff7isnumbaone"]I really hated PGR 3.The_Trash_Man07

Well you must of not been good at the game becuase it was an amazing racer. It had great graphics gameplay and online in car view and damage. And it was a launch game that scored 8.8 from Gamespot so your in a very low minority i guess.

The in-car view was incredible. It was like the whole game re-invented. It's a shame so few people use it. That with a steering wheel is racing perfection.

[QUOTE="ff7isnumbaone"]I really hated PGR 3.Ninja-Vox

You dont own an xbox 360 on which to play PGR3.

ok doesn't mean I dont i have freinds that have/ had 360s. Dont act stupid.

DONT make me laugh TC pgr>>>> GT5 :lol: :lol: :lol: :cry:

http://xboxmovies.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/4836/Project-Gotham-Racing-4-A-Sneak-Peek-Part-2-The-Snow/

look at those low polly cars :lol: :lol:

i have to say motion blur is sweeet but overall no JUST no no competition with GT5

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="The_Trash_Man07"]

OMG WOW PGR4 looks freaking INCREDIBLE. The weather effects look as real as it gets.

Not to mention PGR online is by far the funnest online racing there is.

Douja555

Yes, the game looks nice. Gameplay will determine whether its good or not... :shock:

Its PGR, if havent played any of the previous games by now, I highly suggest you do.

I have the orginals on Xbox and PGR3 on my 360. ;)

20 cars on screen > 8

Weather effects look good in PGR, but the cars still look very cgi ish. Not realisitic like GT5. The lighting in GT5 and the 200,000 poly models make them look like real cars.

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[QUOTE="ff7isnumbaone"]I really hated PGR 3.ff7isnumbaone

You dont own an xbox 360 on which to play PGR3.

ok doesn't mean I dont i have freinds that have/ had 360s. Dont act stupid.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

[QUOTE="ff7isnumbaone"]I really hated PGR 3.ff7isnumbaone

You dont own an xbox 360 on which to play PGR3.

ok doesn't mean I dont i have freinds that have/ had 360s. Dont act stupid.

You cannot judge a game by playing it at a friends house on a console you dont own. Especially dont call a game you dont own and never have owned "trash".

Common sense.

Also; if you dont have a 360 and admit that, why on earth have you written reviews for both Gears of War and Rainbow Six? Did you beat both at your friend's house too?

:roll:

gt5 gameplay sucks just like HD so I guess PGR wins already. :Damorbis1001

You do know we haven't actually played gt5? They are redoing the physics and adding damage?

From what read from lemmings Perfect dark suck and that got AAA. ff7isnumbaone

Sorry sir, thats an OPINION of yours. The game scored AAA on launch day. I have two questions for you.

1. What AAA or AAAE did the PS3 have at launch?

2. Since PD0 sucked, what did Resistance score one year later? :shock:

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[QUOTE="ff7isnumbaone"]I really hated PGR 3.Ninja-Vox

You dont own an xbox 360 on which to play PGR3.

ok doesn't mean I dont i have freinds that have/ had 360s. Dont act stupid.

You cannot judge a game by playing it at a friends house on a console you dont own. Especially dont call a game you dont own and never have owned "trash".

Common sense.

Also; if you dont have a 360 and admit that, why on earth have you written reviews for both Gears of War and Rainbow Six? Did you beat both at your friend's house too?

:roll:

Umm why cant he? I plan on playing Halo 3 all the time in my friends dorm. How does your experiance change if you beat the game at a friends house?

20 cars on screen > 8

Weather effects look good in PGR, but the cars still look very cgi ish. Not realisitic like GT5. The lighting in GT5 and the 200,000 poly models make them look like real cars.

Wasdie

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

20 cars on screen > 8

Weather effects look good in PGR, but the cars still look very cgi ish. Not realisitic like GT5. The lighting in GT5 and the 200,000 poly models make them look like real cars.

Medjai

I own Forza motorsport and played it regularly with 8 people online.

They also are redoing the a.i., physics, adding online, and adding damage to GT5. It is the biggest jump for the series ever.

[QUOTE="amorbis1001"]gt5 gameplay sucks just like HD so I guess PGR wins already. :DWasdie

You do know we haven't actually played gt5? They are redoing the physics and adding damage?

[QUOTE="amorbis1001"]gt5 gameplay sucks just like HD so I guess PGR wins already. :DWasdie

You do know we haven't actually played gt5? They are redoing the physics and adding damage?

omg teh Damage and teh physics, Forza 2 had real physics and damage and it was way too realistic for me, I love PGR gameply it is arcady with a bit of realistic simulation.

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[QUOTE="ff7isnumbaone"]I really hated PGR 3.Medjai

You dont own an xbox 360 on which to play PGR3.

ok doesn't mean I dont i have freinds that have/ had 360s. Dont act stupid.

Agreed. He sounds like one of those who only played Burnout, NFS, or Ridge Racer Series. Then to play a game where you actually have to use brakes is like "Oh noes!!!11!!" :shock:

GT5 features 60fps, 16 cars on track, and 1080p. PGR4 features 30fps, 8 cars on track, and 720p. And in the end GT5 STILL looks better. The only thing remarkable about PGR4 is the weather, which will also be a feature in the full game of GT5.synce

Only 16 cars? I thought it was about 20, I could be wrong though.

20 cars on screen > 8

Weather effects look good in PGR, but the cars still look very cgi ish. Not realisitic like GT5. The lighting in GT5 and the 200,000 poly models make them look like real cars.

Wasdie

Not only does GT5 have twice the cars on track it also runs native 1080p @60fps. That's TWICE thepixels (detail)of 720p

I can imagine the 360 popping a gasket if it tried to run PGR4 at 1080p @ 60fps with HDR lighting etc

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="amorbis1001"]gt5 gameplay sucks just like HD so I guess PGR wins already. :Damorbis1001

You do know we haven't actually played gt5? They are redoing the physics and adding damage?

[QUOTE="amorbis1001"]gt5 gameplay sucks just like HD so I guess PGR wins already. :DWasdie

You do know we haven't actually played gt5? They are redoing the physics and adding damage?

omg teh Damage and teh physics, Forza 2 had real physics and damage and it was way too realistic for me, I love PGR gameply it is arcady with a bit of realistic simulation.

Alright. But you say the gameplay sucks. There is a difference between not liking the gameplay because of personal perferance and saying it sucks.

[QUOTE="Medjai"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

20 cars on screen > 8

Weather effects look good in PGR, but the cars still look very cgi ish. Not realisitic like GT5. The lighting in GT5 and the 200,000 poly models make them look like real cars.

Wasdie

I own Forza motorsport and played it regularly with 8 people online.

They also are redoing the a.i., physics, adding online, and adding damage to GT5. It is the biggest jump for the series ever.

'They also are redoing the a.i., physics, adding online, and adding damage to GT5. It is the biggest jump for the series ever.' ...and thats great because they really needed to be redone. the problem is PGR already has great physics (for its type of racing) and has some amount of damage and Forza has both...the jury is still out on GT5 IMO but atleast it sounds like they are heading in the right direction

Honestly, it's great to go on about number of polygons per car and all kinds of technical specs, but at the end of the day a game is an overall package. PGR might not have as any cars, but it might play amazingly. Or have the awesome AI the last game had.

Then again, the weather effects might kick ass but the multiplayer will end up lacking. Same with GT; the cars could look beautiful, but driver AI might end up lame. Tracks might be repetitive.

Who knows? Alls i'm saying is comparing the quality of games based purely on the quality of pre-release screen shots is just silly.

PGR is trash, dont compare it to GT. PGR and Gt shouldn't even be in the same sentence or paragraph. LOL compare it to forza or ridge racer.ff7isnumbaone

lol!! PGR is definitely a very fun game and even better when playing online. I got bored of GT3 & GT4 after 15 hours of playing. I played PGR3 for weeks before I finally decided to give other 360 games some attention. GT5 only saving grace with be it's online support.Pretty cars does not make a racing game fun. There are many other factors involved. I'm hoping Polophony finally got rid of the rubberbanding of the computer controlled cars and finally fixed the A.I.Computer controllerdrivers should not drive exactly the same on every track. If GT5 has as many customizations as Forza 2 does, it'll be a miracle.

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20 cars on screen > 8

Weather effects look good in PGR, but the cars still look very cgi ish. Not realisitic like GT5. The lighting in GT5 and the 200,000 poly models make them look like real cars.

DarthaPerkinjan

Not only does GT5 have twice the cars on track it also runs native 1080p @60fps. That's TWICE thepixels (detail)of 720p

I can imagine the 360 popping a gasket if it tried to run PGR4 at 1080p @ 60fps with HDR lighting etc

Interesting how you spout off about the capabilities of the PS3 yet cant run a simple football game at 60fps. Oh, I know "teh lazee devs!!1" So the devs were lazy on Lair also? :shock:

[QUOTE="DarthaPerkinjan"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

20 cars on screen > 8

Weather effects look good in PGR, but the cars still look very cgi ish. Not realisitic like GT5. The lighting in GT5 and the 200,000 poly models make them look like real cars.

Magical_Zebra

Not only does GT5 have twice the cars on track it also runs native 1080p @60fps. That's TWICE thepixels (detail)of 720p

I can imagine the 360 popping a gasket if it tried to run PGR4 at 1080p @ 60fps with HDR lighting etc

Interesting how you spout off about the capabilities of the PS3 yet cant run a simple football game at 60fps. Oh, I know "teh lazee devs!!1" So the devs were lazy on Lair also? :shock:

I approve this ownage. :lol: I also laugh as my "PS3 being way more powerful than the 360 is a myth" thread was flamed by cows because "Nobody even says that any more!"

Riiiight.

never played forza, but i know for a fact PGR is trash.ff7isnumbaone

That's just your opinion, which most people don't agree with. Even though I think GT gets boring and repetitive after 15-20hrs of playing it, I don't think it's trash.

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/562117.asp?q=PGR

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/927245.asp?q=PGR

http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=Project+Gotham&console=&publisher=&sort=Total

[QUOTE="DarthaPerkinjan"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

20 cars on screen > 8

Weather effects look good in PGR, but the cars still look very cgi ish. Not realisitic like GT5. The lighting in GT5 and the 200,000 poly models make them look like real cars.

Magical_Zebra

Not only does GT5 have twice the cars on track it also runs native 1080p @60fps. That's TWICE thepixels (detail)of 720p

I can imagine the 360 popping a gasket if it tried to run PGR4 at 1080p @ 60fps with HDR lighting etc

Interesting how you spout off about the capabilities of the PS3 yet cant run a simple football game at 60fps. Oh, I know "teh lazee devs!!1" So the devs were lazy on Lair also? :shock:

Ports suck on the PS3. No one denys that. All the devs make the game for the 360 and then port it over to the PS3. Only problem with that is the PS3 is vastly different from the 360 in that it takes time to learn how to take advantage of the SPUs. PS3 has plenty of power and Sony already said that it, like the PS2, won't be maxed out until 4-5 years from now.

The xbox 360 on the other hand has already reached it's limit. Several developers have said they are pushing it 93-96% of its power is already used.

On the other hand they said the PS3 has so much untapped power not only are games not pushing it they have no clue what the limit is.

And look at the vid of PGR4 4 someone posted earlier

http://xboxmovies.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/4836/Project-Gotham-Racing-4-A-Sneak-Peek-Part-2-The-Snow/

Very low poly count models. THAT'S how REAL PGR4 looks like. But it still looks fun. Only problem I have is people claiming it looks better than GT5 because of this touched up Intro video which used clever camera angles etc to make it look better than it really does. That's like saying Killzone 2 looks better than Crysis because of the E3 '05 trailer.

DarthaPerkinjan, Madden was a multiplat game. Not a port. Dont make stuff up.

Also; the 360 is far from "tapped". Name one system in the history of videogame consoles which was ever truly "tapped". That really is complete nonsense.

Epic said they were squeezing every last drop out of the 360 with Gears of War. You could take that as "teh 360 is at its limits!!!"

But wait, Cliffy then said that two years from now games will look way better than gears on the xbox. Why? Because they squeezed every drop out that they could; but as developers make more games and gain more experience, they learn to get even more out of the systems they work with.

Look at the games devs made on the PS2 at launch. Then look at God of War 2.