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#1 jaz350z
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Disclaimer: I have owned both consoles and love them both but I am only stating facts.

Fact: Xbox 360 came out 1 year before the PS3


PS3vs Xbox 360

Blu Ray Disc vs DVD/CD

Blu Ray holds 7x the space of a DVD/CD

1080p vs 1080p

$400 with Killzone 2 and MGS4

$350 w/o Blu Ray or any games

$50 per year of Xbox Live

0.1% Failure rate

33% failure rate (Red Ring of Death)

PS3 has a built-in hard drive

Xbox 360 hard drive - $85


PS3 has built-in wireless internet

Xbox 360 wireless router - $100


PS3 has a built-in internet browser

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#2 PvtGump8
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I don't get it....what does the poll have to do with your topic?...and hasn't this topic been beaten to death already?

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#3 jaz350z
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I accidently pressed enter and everything got messed up and I didn't get to finish it

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xbox 360 is much better then PS3. PS3 has better hardware but everything else is better on 360. oh yeah my 360 just put 4 small cracks on my orange box disc WTF

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#6 -GeordiLaForge-
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I'm sure that the PS3 failure rate is higher than that. Sony just doesn't fix them. And where did you get that 33% of 360's fail? Doesn't matter anyway. The Jasper motherboard is readily available now...
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I'm sure that the PS3 failure rate is higher than that. Sony just doesn't fix them. And where did you get that 33% of 360's fail? Doesn't matter anyway. The Jasper motherboard is readily available now...-GeordiLaForge-

http://gizmodo.com/271487/xbox-360-failure-rate-30-says-retailers

But, if I am not mistaken, I beleive the published rate from MS is that it's 16%, which seems very low to me, considering how mnay people I know who have gone through their 360's several times. And the Jasper realy did nothing much to fix the problems. While it does help to prvent RROD from happening sooner than the others, E71 error, or the disc tray malfuntion. RROD isn't the only problem. And my friend has already gone through 2 jasper models, making the tally 6 360's since launch. It's very shoddy, and I for one will not promote companies for putting out crappy hardware. I refuse to buy a 360 until it is at least a more reasonable failure rate, and they address all the issues with the box. I don't care much for their warranty. If I wanted a refurbished box, i would have bought that in the beginning.

Anyways, that said. 360 seems to get the more polished multiplats (at the beginning), and have several exclusives I am looking forward to, specifically Gears, Alan Wake and SC: Conviction. I know Alan Wake is also coming to pc, but I am not a pc gamer. PS3 has awesome features, especially the blue ray, and the exclsuives I want, namely Ratchet and Clank, MGS4, GOW. the multiplats, as of a while ago, run great on ps3, and the differences to the 360 are negligible to me. I don;'t stare at textures, lighting, etc. I play the game!

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[QUOTE="jaz350z"]

Disclaimer: I have owned both consoles and love them both but I am only stating facts.

Fact: Xbox 360 came out 1 year before the PS3


PS3vs Xbox 360

Blu Ray Disc vs DVD/CD

Blu Ray holds 7x the space of a DVD/CD

1080p vs 1080p

$400 with Killzone 2 and MGS4

$350 w/o Blu Ray or any games

$50 per year of Xbox Live

0.1% Failure rate

33% failure rate (Red Ring of Death)

PS3 has a built-in hard drive

Xbox 360 hard drive - $85


PS3 has built-in wireless internet

Xbox 360 wireless router - $100


PS3 has a built-in internet browser

What's your point?
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#9 Naikori
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Didn't you alredy make this topic?

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Wow, I haven't seen this argument on SW before. :roll: I'll give the same answer as I usually do. How much does it cost to PLAY a current gen game on the 360? $199. How much does it cost to play a current gen game on the PS3? $399. Case closed. And didn't you create a similar thread earlier claiming "facts", with the same disclaimer on top? No offense, but if you owned a 360, then what was your GT?
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Deja vu. I like both Gears and Halo, but I play Gears more.

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[QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"]I'm sure that the PS3 failure rate is higher than that. Sony just doesn't fix them. And where did you get that 33% of 360's fail? Doesn't matter anyway. The Jasper motherboard is readily available now...PS3Gamer_1

http://gizmodo.com/271487/xbox-360-failure-rate-30-says-retailers

But, if I am not mistaken, I beleive the published rate from MS is that it's 16%, which seems very low to me, considering how mnay people I know who have gone through their 360's several times. And the Jasper realy did nothing much to fix the problems. While it does help to prvent RROD from happening sooner than the others, E71 error, or the disc tray malfuntion. RROD isn't the only problem. And my friend has already gone through 2 jasper models, making the tally 6 360's since launch. It's very shoddy, and I for one will not promote companies for putting out crappy hardware. I refuse to buy a 360 until it is at least a more reasonable failure rate, and they address all the issues with the box. I don't care much for their warranty. If I wanted a refurbished box, i would have bought that in the beginning.

Anyways, that said. 360 seems to get the more polished multiplats (at the beginning), and have several exclusives I am looking forward to, specifically Gears, Alan Wake and SC: Conviction. I know Alan Wake is also coming to pc, but I am not a pc gamer. PS3 has awesome features, especially the blue ray, and the exclsuives I want, namely Ratchet and Clank, MGS4, GOW. the multiplats, as of a while ago, run great on ps3, and the differences to the 360 are negligible to me. I don;'t stare at textures, lighting, etc. I play the game!

No offense, but you're name definitely calls your statements into question. ESPECIALLY since my launch 360 worked fine, and did not freeze once before it was stolen last summer...
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ftr, I do not have a link but last I heard the failure rate for the 360 was at 8%

it hasnt been at 33% since 06

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I love both games but imo FPS >>> TPS

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#15 PS3Gamer_1
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[QUOTE="PS3Gamer_1"]

[QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"]I'm sure that the PS3 failure rate is higher than that. Sony just doesn't fix them. And where did you get that 33% of 360's fail? Doesn't matter anyway. The Jasper motherboard is readily available now...-GeordiLaForge-

http://gizmodo.com/271487/xbox-360-failure-rate-30-says-retailers

But, if I am not mistaken, I beleive the published rate from MS is that it's 16%, which seems very low to me, considering how mnay people I know who have gone through their 360's several times. And the Jasper realy did nothing much to fix the problems. While it does help to prvent RROD from happening sooner than the others, E71 error, or the disc tray malfuntion. RROD isn't the only problem. And my friend has already gone through 2 jasper models, making the tally 6 360's since launch. It's very shoddy, and I for one will not promote companies for putting out crappy hardware. I refuse to buy a 360 until it is at least a more reasonable failure rate, and they address all the issues with the box. I don't care much for their warranty. If I wanted a refurbished box, i would have bought that in the beginning.

Anyways, that said. 360 seems to get the more polished multiplats (at the beginning), and have several exclusives I am looking forward to, specifically Gears, Alan Wake and SC: Conviction. I know Alan Wake is also coming to pc, but I am not a pc gamer. PS3 has awesome features, especially the blue ray, and the exclsuives I want, namely Ratchet and Clank, MGS4, GOW. the multiplats, as of a while ago, run great on ps3, and the differences to the 360 are negligible to me. I don;'t stare at textures, lighting, etc. I play the game!

No offense, but you're name definitely calls your statements into question. ESPECIALLY since my launch 360 worked fine, and did not freeze once before it was stolen last summer...

So i get dismissed because I wasn't creative enough to get a better sn :|

Anyways, no need to beleive me, really don't care, just stating my opinion. And just because your launch 360 works fine (you are lucky) doesn't mean there aren't issues with 360. So good for you. The ps3 gets the ylod, thank god mine hasn't, so does that mean i dismiss anyone who says they got the ylod ESPECIALLY since my ps3 works fine? :| It also get DRE, so they are liars because mine works fine. So if mine works fine, then it isn't real....?

Just because you haven't personally experienced anything bad with your box doesn't mean others haven't. My younger bro is on his second 360, his disc tray broke. he had to buy an arcade version off of ebay, and use his original hd. That wasn't covered under warranty. My cousin had to buy a brand new 360 since his RROD before the warranty came out. As did my brother in law. And the new one I bought him has RROD. He is in the middle of getting it fixed.

"Should I post pics or it didn't happen" or whatever...i don't care if you beleive me or not. Just stating personal experiences. I hope you don't take any offense. I'm just tired of ppl stating comments like I don't beleive you, post pics or you are a liar, blah, blah to other posters because of their names, or whatever reason. And just because it didn't happen to you doesn't make it any less true.

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ftr, I do not have a link but last I heard the failure rate for the 360 was at 8%

it hasnt been at 33% since 06

dragonfly110

8% my ass some retailers said the real failure rate of 360 at launch was 60% and its down to 16% now and thats very high compared to Wii and PS3 1% failure rate.

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#17 mixmax5
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I like 360 more because it is what I own. I do want a PS3 though.

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#18 -GeordiLaForge-
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[QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"][QUOTE="PS3Gamer_1"]

http://gizmodo.com/271487/xbox-360-failure-rate-30-says-retailers

But, if I am not mistaken, I beleive the published rate from MS is that it's 16%, which seems very low to me, considering how mnay people I know who have gone through their 360's several times. And the Jasper realy did nothing much to fix the problems. While it does help to prvent RROD from happening sooner than the others, E71 error, or the disc tray malfuntion. RROD isn't the only problem. And my friend has already gone through 2 jasper models, making the tally 6 360's since launch. It's very shoddy, and I for one will not promote companies for putting out crappy hardware. I refuse to buy a 360 until it is at least a more reasonable failure rate, and they address all the issues with the box. I don't care much for their warranty. If I wanted a refurbished box, i would have bought that in the beginning.

Anyways, that said. 360 seems to get the more polished multiplats (at the beginning), and have several exclusives I am looking forward to, specifically Gears, Alan Wake and SC: Conviction. I know Alan Wake is also coming to pc, but I am not a pc gamer. PS3 has awesome features, especially the blue ray, and the exclsuives I want, namely Ratchet and Clank, MGS4, GOW. the multiplats, as of a while ago, run great on ps3, and the differences to the 360 are negligible to me. I don;'t stare at textures, lighting, etc. I play the game!

PS3Gamer_1

No offense, but you're name definitely calls your statements into question. ESPECIALLY since my launch 360 worked fine, and did not freeze once before it was stolen last summer...

So i get dismissed because I wasn't creative enough to get a better sn :|

Anyways, no need to beleive me, really don't care, just stating my opinion. And just because your launch 360 works fine (you are lucky) doesn't mean there aren't issues with 360. So good for you. The ps3 gets the ylod, thank god mine hasn't, so does that mean i dismiss anyone who says they got the ylod ESPECIALLY since my ps3 works fine? :| It also get DRE, so they are liars because my works fine. So if mine works fine, then it isn't real....?

Just because you haven't personally experienced anything bad with your box doesn't mean other haven't. My younger bro is on his second 360, his disc tray broke. he had to buy an arcade version off of ebay, and use his original hd. That wasn't covered under warranty. My cousin had to biy a brand new 360 since his RROD before the warranty came out. As did my brother in law. And the new one I bought him has RROD.

"Should I post pics or it didn't happen" or whatever...i don't care if you beleive me or not. Just stating personal experiences. I hope you don't take any offense. I'm just tired of ppl statiung comments like I don't beleive you, post pics or you are a liar, blah, blah to other posetrs because of their names, or whatever reason. And just because it didn't happen to you doesn't make it any less true.

lol, calm down. That's it.. breathe... I didn't say that you were lieing. I just said that I questioned the validity of your statements for the reasons stated.
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#19 PS3Gamer_1
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[QUOTE="PS3Gamer_1"]

[QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"]No offense, but you're name definitely calls your statements into question. ESPECIALLY since my launch 360 worked fine, and did not freeze once before it was stolen last summer...-GeordiLaForge-

So i get dismissed because I wasn't creative enough to get a better sn :|

Anyways, no need to beleive me, really don't care, just stating my opinion. And just because your launch 360 works fine (you are lucky) doesn't mean there aren't issues with 360. So good for you. The ps3 gets the ylod, thank god mine hasn't, so does that mean i dismiss anyone who says they got the ylod ESPECIALLY since my ps3 works fine? :| It also get DRE, so they are liars because my works fine. So if mine works fine, then it isn't real....?

Just because you haven't personally experienced anything bad with your box doesn't mean other haven't. My younger bro is on his second 360, his disc tray broke. he had to buy an arcade version off of ebay, and use his original hd. That wasn't covered under warranty. My cousin had to biy a brand new 360 since his RROD before the warranty came out. As did my brother in law. And the new one I bought him has RROD.

"Should I post pics or it didn't happen" or whatever...i don't care if you beleive me or not. Just stating personal experiences. I hope you don't take any offense. I'm just tired of ppl statiung comments like I don't beleive you, post pics or you are a liar, blah, blah to other posetrs because of their names, or whatever reason. And just because it didn't happen to you doesn't make it any less true.

lol, calm down. That's it.. breathe... I didn't say that you were lieing. I just said that I questioned the validity of your statements for the reasons stated.

I am calm. Just was in a thread where everyone was stating pics or it didn't happen to this kid, I found it hilarious and frsutrating. And question the validity of my statements based on my name and on your own 360 doesn't make any sense, but anyways....

But on another note....did you end up getting a new 360? And how was it stolen?

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Wow, I haven't seen this argument on SW before. :roll: I'll give the same answer as I usually do. How much does it cost to PLAY a current gen game on the 360? $199. How much does it cost to play a current gen game on the PS3? $399. Case closed. And didn't you create a similar thread earlier claiming "facts", with the same disclaimer on top? No offense, but if you owned a 360, then what was your GT?Eddie5vs1
how much does it cost to replace a xbox once it breaks another 200. also ps3 comes with 2 games so its more like 320 to play two games on 360 compared to ps3's 400 and psn is free i shouldve saved my money for ps3 cause now it is the better buy cause xbl is so expensive with game addons and xboxlive

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[QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"]Wow, I haven't seen this argument on SW before. :roll: I'll give the same answer as I usually do. How much does it cost to PLAY a current gen game on the 360? $199. How much does it cost to play a current gen game on the PS3? $399. Case closed. And didn't you create a similar thread earlier claiming "facts", with the same disclaimer on top? No offense, but if you owned a 360, then what was your GT?yohomes

how much does it cost to replace a xbox once it breaks another 200. also ps3 comes with 2 games so its more like 320 to play two games on 360 compared to ps3's 400 and psn is free i shouldve saved my money for ps3 cause now it is the better buy cause xbl is so expensive with game addons and xboxlive

If it breaks for reasons covered under the warranty, then nothing. But if not, then yes another 200. and from what I gather the online play is better on 360, and you can actually find cheaper alternatives to paying the full 50 a year. I don't do much online gaming, so I don't care about this.

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Is 33% failure rate even accurate? Is .01% accurate?
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Did you end up getting a new 360? And how was it stolen? PS3Gamer_1
It's a long story. I left my Swiss Army bag on the back seat of my friend's brothers' car. He let someone use his car later without letting me know. He didn't know that my bag was in his car. We ended up having to literally walk for miles and chase the guy through the hood on foot. He chased the guy up one block, and was one block over. The guy doubled back and I had to jump out in the middle of the road to stop the car. Needless to say, my bag was gone. Everything that I owned but my clothes was in that bag, including my 360, 17 games, 2 controllers, VGA & HD cables... everything... But i never did get another 360. I built a new gaming PC instead. I'll get an arcade system before the end of the year. I already have another harddrive, HD cables, and an extra wireless controller. And that sucks that your family had problems with their 360's Did they keep them on a shelf or stand them up? I always left mine out in the open...
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Is 33% failure rate even accurate? Is .01% accurate?SparkyProtocol
Neither is accurate. He is just trolling. Check out his other thread.
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[QUOTE="PS3Gamer_1"]Did you end up getting a new 360? And how was it stolen? -GeordiLaForge-
It's a long story. I left my Swiss Army bag on the back seat of my friend's brothers' car. He let someone use his car later without letting me know. He didn't know that my bag was in his car. We ended up having to literally walk for miles and chase the guy through the hood on foot. He chased the guy up one block, and was one block over. The guy doubled back and I had to jump out in the middle of the road to stop the car. Needless to say, my bag was gone. Everything that I owned but my clothes was in that bag, including my 360, 17 games, 2 controllers, VGA & HD cables... everything... But i never did get another 360. I built a new gaming PC instead. I'll get an arcade system before the end of the year. I already have another harddrive, HD cables, and an extra wireless controller. And that sucks that your family had problems with their 360's Did they keep them on a shelf or stand them up? I always left mine out in the open...

That's insane. Sucks bro.

My younger bro has it on the open. My friend has it well ventilated, and he may have returned one functional 360 for the jasper, so technically he went through 5 360's. His 4th one was getting louder, nothing wrong with it, but he flet it was going to crash, so he has this bestbuy warranty plan, so basically he returnes it they give him a new one. he wanted the jasper one, which literally died on him after a few months. My cousin, not sure how he takes care of his things.

I can't do the gaming pc. So ever thought of a ps3, or u have to much invested in the 360 and pc to even bother with another console? This is also another reaosn for me. Timewise, moreso than money, I can't really keep up with my games.

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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]Is 33% failure rate even accurate? Is .01% accurate?-GeordiLaForge-
Neither is accurate. He is just trolling. Check out his other thread.

.01% is ridiculously low, and damn near impossible with electronics. And 33% failure rate is not proven, so not acurate. The official failure rate is 16% I believe. Whether anyone chooses to beleive this is another topic. Some guy was doing an investigative piece and claims it's more like 60%. But you have to question that as well. I am sure that would have made the front page on many newspapers!

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#27 -GeordiLaForge-
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[QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"][QUOTE="PS3Gamer_1"]Did you end up getting a new 360? And how was it stolen? PS3Gamer_1

It's a long story. I left my Swiss Army bag on the back seat of my friend's brothers' car. He let someone use his car later without letting me know. He didn't know that my bag was in his car. We ended up having to literally walk for miles and chase the guy through the hood on foot. He chased the guy up one block, and was one block over. The guy doubled back and I had to jump out in the middle of the road to stop the car. Needless to say, my bag was gone. Everything that I owned but my clothes was in that bag, including my 360, 17 games, 2 controllers, VGA & HD cables... everything... But i never did get another 360. I built a new gaming PC instead. I'll get an arcade system before the end of the year. I already have another harddrive, HD cables, and an extra wireless controller. And that sucks that your family had problems with their 360's Did they keep them on a shelf or stand them up? I always left mine out in the open...

That's insane. Sucks bro.

My younger bro has it on the open. My friend has it well ventilated, and he may have returned one functional 360 for the jasper, so technically he went through 5 360's. His 4th one was getting louder, nothing wrong with it, but he flet it was going to crash, so he has this bestbuy warranty plan, so basically he returnes it they give him a new one. he wanted the jasper one, which literally died on him after a few months. My cousin, not sure how he takes care of his things.

I can't do the gaming pc. So ever thought of a ps3, or u have to much invested in the 360 and pc to even bother with another console? This is also another reaosn for me. Timewise, moreso than money, I can't really keep up with my games.

I planned on getting a PS3 until my 360 got stolen. Now I'm not sure. I'm going to be playing catch up with the 360 as it is. And I'll probably just get a Bluray burner for my PC. I may still get a PS3 though, only time will tell...
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Wow, I haven't seen this argument on SW before. :roll: I'll give the same answer as I usually do. How much does it cost to PLAY a current gen game on the 360? $199. How much does it cost to play a current gen game on the PS3? $399. Case closed. And didn't you create a similar thread earlier claiming "facts", with the same disclaimer on top? No offense, but if you owned a 360, then what was your GT?Eddie5vs1
how much does it cost to take full advantage of the game? 360 = 435 Ps3 = 400
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#29 -GeordiLaForge-
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[QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"]Wow, I haven't seen this argument on SW before. :roll: I'll give the same answer as I usually do. How much does it cost to PLAY a current gen game on the 360? $199. How much does it cost to play a current gen game on the PS3? $399. Case closed. And didn't you create a similar thread earlier claiming "facts", with the same disclaimer on top? No offense, but if you owned a 360, then what was your GT?Panther501
how much does it cost to take full advantage of the game? 360 = 435 Ps3 = 400

Lol... 360 = $299 PS3 + HDMI cable = $419
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#30 jaz350z
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THIS WHOLE POST IS AN ACCIDENT! stop reading it, I accidently pressed enter and nothing was finished and some information is wrong