Pachter: 8GB GDDR5 = more video game innovation

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#1 Kjranu
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http://wiiudaily.com/2013/03/pachter-predicts-between-30-to-50-million-wii-u-consoles-sold-as-the-last-nintendo-console/

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THANK YOU SONY

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#3 Obviously_Right
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Dat 8GB GDDR5

Thank you Sony.

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#4 Sushiglutton
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And the RAM shall set us free!
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#5 StrongDeadlift
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#6 DropsofJupiter
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THANK YOU SONY

balfe1990

Dat 8GB GDDR5

Thank you Sony.

Obviously_Right
And the RAM shall set us free!Sushiglutton
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#7 senses_fail_06
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[QUOTE="DropsofJupiter"][QUOTE="balfe1990"]

Dat 8GB GDDR5

Thank you Sony.

Obviously_Right
And the RAM shall set us free!Sushiglutton

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#8 avshaman
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8GB of very fast GDDR5 RAM really will make a big difference. People that say otherwise don't really understand how things work.

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#9 Mrmedia01
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Yeah the ram is awesome, we know, weknow already. At first I was hyped about the RAMMMMM but now The RAMMMMM is getting annoying. Everyday 8GB this GDDR5 that,...... OMG xD

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#10 balfe1990
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8GB of very fast GDDR5 RAM really will make a big difference. People that say otherwise don't really understand how things work.

avshaman

NOBODY understands the intricacies of dat GDDR5 RAM. It's beyond the comprehension of mere mortals, forged in the heavens and blessed by the Gods.

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#11 silversix_
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Cows are so polite these days thanking Sony and Kaz for their marvelous creation :lol:
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Nextbox "buillt in TV-Tuner" LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL whaaat?:lol:

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#13 TheEroica  Moderator
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wait... stop the presses.... is he twlling us that more powerful hardwar can drive more powerdul games? 

where the fuk did that genius get his crystal ball?

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#14 DragonfireXZ95
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Lol, ram makes innovation likely? Why are the top guys all idiots when it comes to hardware?
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#15 deactivated-5ba16896d1cc2
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all hail Sony... Hermits are butt hurt over GDDR5 :-(

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Lol, ram makes innovation likely? Why are the top guys all idiots when it comes to hardware?DragonfireXZ95
clearly, they know ALOT more then you do
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#17 Krelian-co
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not innovation, more like the tiny ram of consoles won't hold the games back anymore

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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Lol, ram makes innovation likely? Why are the top guys all idiots when it comes to hardware?xboxiphoneps3
clearly, they know ALOT more then you do

Says the idiot. Oh, but you're not a top guy? That must mean you're just a regular, everyday non-paid idiot.

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not innovation, more like the tiny ram of consoles won't hold the games back anymore

Krelian-co
This.
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Lol, ram makes innovation likely? Why are the top guys all idiots when it comes to hardware?DragonfireXZ95

devs are able to work better with more ram and less limitation, better ai, better level design, more features and so on

pachter is a joke though

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#21 senses_fail_06
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[QUOTE="avshaman"]

8GB of very fast GDDR5 RAM really will make a big difference. People that say otherwise don't really understand how things work.

balfe1990

NOBODY understands the intricacies of dat GDDR5 RAM. It's beyond the comprehension of mere mortals, forged in the heavens and blessed by the Gods.

Rumor has it Sony has found a way to harness Dark Matter and that this will actually be the driving force behind the PS4.
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Lol, ram makes innovation likely? Why are the top guys all idiots when it comes to hardware?Krelian-co

devs are able to work better with more ram and less limitation, better ai, better level design, more features and so on

pachter is a joke though

None of that is innovation. You realize that, right?

Also, ram doesn't affect level design. Level design is something only the artists can manipulate.

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#23 senses_fail_06
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Cows are so polite these days thanking Sony and Kaz for their marvelous creation :lol:silversix_
I think it is the least we can do, well, besides the nightly prayers and Hail Marys.
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#24 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Lol, ram makes innovation likely? Why are the top guys all idiots when it comes to hardware?DragonfireXZ95

devs are able to work better with more ram and less limitation, better ai, better level design, more features and so on

pachter is a joke though

None of that is innovation. You realize that, right?

Also, ram doesn't affect level design. Level design is something only the artists can manipulate.

it is not innovation but it leads to it, we can see something devs haven't done before, as for level design the levels can be more detailed with a lot more going on in them and less linear, obviously i meant the technical aspect of them. 

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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

devs are able to work better with more ram and less limitation, better ai, better level design, more features and so on

pachter is a joke though

Krelian-co

None of that is innovation. You realize that, right?

Also, ram doesn't affect level design. Level design is something only the artists can manipulate.

it is not innovation but it leads to it, we can see something devs haven't done before, as for level design the levels can be more detailed with a lot more going on in them and less linear, obviously i meant the technical aspect of them. 

No. Ram does not affect the level design. Get it through your head. Games can be open world with little ram, did you see Red Dead Redemption's world? That should be proof enough that ram is not a key element in level design.

The technical aspect of an open world is not innovation, either. It only calls for better graphics. Last I checked, graphics were not innovative. Engines can be innovative, but engines can also run on very little ram. It's the textures and draw distance that call for more ram.

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#26 APiranhaAteMyVa
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SDC, Sony putting gamers first as always. Thank you Sony, and Kaz for once again making Sony the number one electronic giant.
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#27 clyde46
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Will Cows claim they love Pachter now?
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#28 Riverwolf007
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i always love how the aguments flip from gen to gen.

when people griped about how ram was done in the ps3 the answer was pfft, ram... dat shyt ain't important.

human nature is pretty facinating.

i have to admit i am more interested in the ps4 after the ram announcement.

my big wish for the last few gens was to see what a console could do if it was not so ram starved and bam i got my wish.

th... *cough*... than gla gla... *hack* hold on almost there.    thank you sony! 

:lol:

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#29 Kinthalis
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AI has to do with the ability fo the AI engineer and the power of the GPU/CPU not RAM.

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#30 Heil68
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Dat 8GB GDDR5

Thank you Sony.

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Indeed.
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#31 balfe1990
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[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

[QUOTE="avshaman"]

8GB of very fast GDDR5 RAM really will make a big difference. People that say otherwise don't really understand how things work.

senses_fail_06

NOBODY understands the intricacies of dat GDDR5 RAM. It's beyond the comprehension of mere mortals, forged in the heavens and blessed by the Gods.

Rumor has it Sony has found a way to harness Dark Matter and that this will actually be the driving force behind the PS4.

Coincidence that they found the God particle less than a month after the almighty unveiling of the Quad, and with it, dat GDDR5 RAM? I think not.

Humanity's ascension beyond the stars and the known Universe shall commence Holiday 2013.

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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Lol, ram makes innovation likely? Why are the top guys all idiots when it comes to hardware?Krelian-co

devs are able to work better with more ram and less limitation, better ai, better level design, more features and so on

pachter is a joke though

All ram does is hold information for a short period of time.

The GPU and CPU render the levels, and the AI, and all the other features.

RAM will allow for less load screens, and less slowdown when loading big areas, but absolutely no computations are rendered on RAM. It's simply for holding information.

 

For example if the CPU and GPU aren't powerful enough to render an entire island, people, AI, and all that, and then store that information on the RAM so that you can seemlessly walk from one side to another without a hiccup, then it doesn't matter how much RAM there is.

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#33 cain006
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That's actually true. They'll be way less limited and open world games will be much better.

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[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"][QUOTE="balfe1990"]

NOBODY understands the intricacies of dat GDDR5 RAM. It's beyond the comprehension of mere mortals, forged in the heavens and blessed by the Gods.

balfe1990

Rumor has it Sony has found a way to harness Dark Matter and that this will actually be the driving force behind the PS4.

Coincidence that they found the God particle less than a month after the almighty unveiling of the Quad, and with it, dat GDDR5 RAM? I think not.

Humanity's ascension beyond the stars and the known Universe shall commence Holiday 2013.

Hot damn, it's all coming together. Sony has officially become the leader in technology, relativity, space exploration, good will towards man, and everything else that is good. 

Thank you Sony.

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#35 balfe1990
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[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"] Rumor has it Sony has found a way to harness Dark Matter and that this will actually be the driving force behind the PS4. senses_fail_06

Coincidence that they found the God particle less than a month after the almighty unveiling of the Quad, and with it, dat GDDR5 RAM? I think not.

Humanity's ascension beyond the stars and the known Universe shall commence Holiday 2013.

Hot damn, it's all coming together. Sony has officially become the leader in technology, relativity, space exploration, good will towards man, and everything else that is good. 

Thank you Sony.

Sony Loves You.

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[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"]

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

Coincidence that they found the God particle less than a month after the almighty unveiling of the Quad, and with it, dat GDDR5 RAM? I think not.

Humanity's ascension beyond the stars and the known Universe shall commence Holiday 2013.

balfe1990

Hot damn, it's all coming together. Sony has officially become the leader in technology, relativity, space exploration, good will towards man, and everything else that is good. 

Thank you Sony.

Sony Loves You.

SLY! SLY!
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[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"]

Hot damn, it's all coming together. Sony has officially become the leader in technology, relativity, space exploration, good will towards man, and everything else that is good. 

Thank you Sony.

DragonfireXZ95

Sony Loves You.

SLY! SLY!

*highfives*

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[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"]

[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

Coincidence that they found the God particle less than a month after the almighty unveiling of the Quad, and with it, dat GDDR5 RAM? I think not.

Humanity's ascension beyond the stars and the known Universe shall commence Holiday 2013.

balfe1990

Hot damn, it's all coming together. Sony has officially become the leader in technology, relativity, space exploration, good will towards man, and everything else that is good. 

Thank you Sony.

Sony Loves You.

I knew it. Thank you profit Balfe. I had a feeling creating that Kaz shrine in my home would only lead to good things.
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THANK YOU SONY

balfe1990
THANK YOU MICROSOFT THANK YOU NINTENDO Damien Sandow: You're Welcome!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damien_Sandow
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[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"]

Hot damn, it's all coming together. Sony has officially become the leader in technology, relativity, space exploration, good will towards man, and everything else that is good. 

Thank you Sony.

senses_fail_06

Sony Loves You.

I knew it. Thank you profit Balfe. I had a feeling creating that Kaz shrine in my home would only lead to good things.

You will be first on the path to enlightenment, The Great Crossing into next-gen. Your faith will be rewarded.

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#41 blackace
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Lol, ram makes innovation likely? Why are the top guys all idiots when it comes to hardware?DragonfireXZ95
LMAO!!! GDDR5 does nothing without developers who actually KNOW HOW TO INNOVATE. You could have 24GB GDDR5 in any game console, but if the developer don't know how to use it correctly and make innovative games, it's irrelevant. Just like Blu-Ray. 50GB of storage and less then 25GB was used for mostly ALL the PS3 games. The same thing will happen with 8GB GDDR5 Ram. Only 2-4GB will probably ever be used as there isn't tons of other programs running in the background to eat up all the RAM.
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Lol, ram makes innovation likely? Why are the top guys all idiots when it comes to hardware?Krelian-co

devs are able to work better with more ram and less limitation, better ai, better level design, more features and so on

pachter is a joke though

lawl. What you are thinking of as things more ram can accomplish are actually things that rely heavily on the CPU. Ram just allows for better textures, draw distances, and smoother load times/ more consistent frame rates.
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#43 blackace
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[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

[QUOTE="avshaman"]

8GB of very fast GDDR5 RAM really will make a big difference. People that say otherwise don't really understand how things work.

senses_fail_06

NOBODY understands the intricacies of dat GDDR5 RAM. It's beyond the comprehension of mere mortals, forged in the heavens and blessed by the Gods.

Rumor has it Sony has found a way to harness Dark Matter and that this will actually be the driving force behind the PS4.

That's good. Maybe they will create a Black Hole and suck Kaz and the rest of Sony into it. lol!!
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[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"][QUOTE="balfe1990"]

Sony Loves You.

balfe1990

I knew it. Thank you profit Balfe. I had a feeling creating that Kaz shrine in my home would only lead to good things.

You will be first on the path to enlightenment, The Great Crossing into next-gen. Your faith will be rewarded.

I feel some sort of tingling in my body. It is running through my veins. Holy hell, the light is overpowering.

Ok guys, I'm walking through it. I want to know what the true power is like.

If I never return to SW, you all know why. Tell my story. Let the nonbelievers know the truth. Do my eyes deceive me...is that...is that...

Master Kaz?!

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NEWS JUST IN - Better Tech can possibly lead to new games design REALITY SETS IN - console gamers just want cod.
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]Lol, ram makes innovation likely? Why are the top guys all idiots when it comes to hardware?blackace
LMAO!!! GDDR5 does nothing without developers who actually KNOW HOW TO INNOVATE. You could have 24GB GDDR5 in any game console, but if the developer don't know how to use it correctly and make innovative games, it's irrelevant. Just like Blu-Ray. 50GB of storage and less then 25GB was used for mostly ALL the PS3 games. The same thing will happen with 8GB GDDR5 Ram. Only 2-4GB will probably ever be used as there isn't tons of other programs running in the background to eat up all the RAM.

Higher res textures and farther draw distances use ram. You know that, right? That's all a game needs to use a ton of ram.
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I feel some sort of tingling in my body. It is running through my veins. Holy hell, the light is overpowering.

Ok guys, I'm walking through it. I want to know what the true power is like.

If I never return to SW, you all know why. Tell my story. Let the nonbelievers know the truth. Do my eyes deceive me...is that...is that...

Master Kaz?!

senses_fail_06

Behold herectics!

This man has just witnessed our Lord and saviour in his true form, unspeakably beautiful and terribly powerful.

One of the lucky few that has crossed into the Divine Beyond. Let us never forget this day.

Senses-Fail, tell Kaz of our faith and devotion.

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#48 andmcq
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It won't make the slightest of differences if publishers are too affraid of taking risks and continue to pump out COD clones every week.

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Patcher back baby!!!
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[QUOTE="balfe1990"]

THANK YOU SONY

blackace

THANK YOU MICROSOFT THANK YOU NINTENDO Damien Sandow: You're Welcome!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damien_Sandow

Thank them for what? make the choice of Ps4 so easy?:lol: