Pachter: Microsoft finished second in sales this generation

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http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/p5cysn/pach-attack--how-can-gamestop-survive- 

Did they?

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"Hello. My name is michael and I state the obvious. Please feel free to worship me now and consider me a valid video game personality with intimate insight and knowledge in the world of gaming and marvel as I take popular opinion and state it as my own undeniable fact. Praise me whenever I make a guess that is correct........well the 19% of the time I am right"

Gargus

lol, he's very likeable though :P

They just about finished above SONY by the time the new gen came around. Lifetime sales SONY will be ahead. Despite a rediculous price, lack of world wide release and an awful furst 18 months for software.

This is the power of the Playstation brand

Nope they haven't.



PS3 will probably take Nintendo Wii's nr.1 spot as well

i thought everybody knew this already

Pachter says bullshit all the time.Lems now believe him?

The PS3 is second at the moment,and It has been proven multiple times.

Pachter says bullshit all the time.Lems now believe him?

The PS3 is second at the moment,and It has been proven multiple times.

Praisedasun

by who?

Both Microsoft and Nintendo have basically given Sony back their throne.  They tried so hard last gen as well...  Only for it to all crumble.

Nope they haven't.



PS3 will probably take Nintendo Wii's nr.1 spot as well

Davekeeh

That's interesting, Pachter. Please tell me more...

Nope they haven't.



PS3 will probably take Nintendo Wii's nr.1 spot as well

Davekeeh

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Nope they haven't.



PS3 will probably take Nintendo Wii's nr.1 spot as well

clyde46

Nope they haven't.



PS3 will probably take Nintendo Wii's nr.1 spot as well

Davekeeh

Sales and Profit are two completely different things...

Doesn't matter if you sell more units if they are not bringing back more revenue than your competition, not to mention enough revenue to at least break EVEN on the cost of the making the console in the first place...

does it matter though? The difference is so small that it's not worth bragging about regardless of who is declared "winner"NFJSupreme

Uh oh here comes the flip flop. Sheens have been worshiping pachter quite a bit lately and now he will be considered the devil.

Sheens have no concept of character or principles

Uh oh here comes the flip flop. Sheens have been worshiping pachter quite a bit lately and now he will be considered the devil.

Sheens have no concept of character or principles

Bam Bam Bigelow

Pachter says bullshit all the time.Lems now believe him?

The PS3 is second at the moment,and It has been proven multiple times.

Praisedasun

Uh oh here comes the flip flop. Sheens have been worshiping pachter quite a bit lately and now he will be considered the devil.

Sheens have no concept of character or principles

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="Praisedasun"]

Pachter says bullshit all the time.Lems now believe him?

The PS3 is second at the moment,and It has been proven multiple times.

kingtito

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

Uh oh here comes the flip flop. Sheens have been worshiping pachter quite a bit lately and now he will be considered the devil.

Sheens have no concept of character or principles

Mr-Kutaragi

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

Uh oh here comes the flip flop. Sheens have been worshiping pachter quite a bit lately and now he will be considered the devil.

Sheens have no concept of character or principles

Mr-Kutaragi

links?

[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="Praisedasun"]

Pachter says bullshit all the time.Lems now believe him?

The PS3 is second at the moment,and It has been proven multiple times.

Mr-Kutaragi

[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

Uh oh here comes the flip flop. Sheens have been worshiping pachter quite a bit lately and now he will be considered the devil.

Sheens have no concept of character or principles

CaseyWegner

links?

Lem self ownage threads? awesome.

[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

Uh oh here comes the flip flop. Sheens have been worshiping pachter quite a bit lately and now he will be considered the devil.

Sheens have no concept of character or principles

kingtito

[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"] Uh oh, flip flop already occur. Xbox fan consider Pachter devil, now are worship because mistake he make in video of last week. Xbox is last place no game. Most analyst already confirm and even site which are pro microsoft such as vgchartz now admit. Ps3 sale more every week, and continue to release big game so will widen gap more in future. MS give up on xbox long time ago, move on to cable box now. Unfortunate for MS, even last place in next gen with pre order. :lol:Mr-Kutaragi

again, links?

The Wii is was a next generation console. They finished 1st, Microsoft second, Sony 3rd.

Its a fact people. Why argue facts? Sony lumped in there PS2 and PS3 sales together.

again, links?

CaseyWegner

Patchter has spoken

cows still delusional about this?   looks at poll results, looks like it. 

[QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]does it matter though? The difference is so small that it's not worth bragging about regardless of who is declared "winner"AD216

that is a great jump for them but I ment it's not much to brag about as far as saying "Sony sold more than MS" or "MS sold more than Sony"  when its all said and done we will be looking at a few hundred thousand units here.  When you are talking 10s of millions of units sold it isn't really much.

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Nope they haven't.



PS3 will probably take Nintendo Wii's nr.1 spot as well

clyde46

[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"] Uh oh, flip flop already occur. Xbox fan consider Pachter devil, now are worship because mistake he make in video of last week. Xbox is last place no game. Most analyst already confirm and even site which are pro microsoft such as vgchartz now admit. Ps3 sale more every week, and continue to release big game so will widen gap more in future. MS give up on xbox long time ago, move on to cable box now. Unfortunate for MS, even last place in next gen with pre order. :lol:Mr-Kutaragi

1. Yet the numbers haven't come from Sony have they? Only Sony and MS know what was sold and what wasn't. VGvharts bwhahahaha you're an idiot if you trust that site cause GS doesn't and thus we don't use them.

2. WTF?? Sony would be the 1st company to brag. They were claiming victory with the PS2 soon as they passed everyone in sales and claimed "next-gen doesn't start till we say so". WTF would you call that?

3. Here we go with the excuses. Sony had brand recognition, MS had the RROD to deal with which hurt the brand at launch. Sony had EVERYTHING going for them UNTIL the launch. Sony screwed up not anyone else. The Wii launched at the same time the PS3 did and they caught and passed the 360 easily. Anymore excuses?

4. Except that they landed in 2nd behind the Wii and had MORE games than the PS3. You sir are about as lame as they come.

5. How am I raging? I'm correcting your obvious mistakes. You're so blinding by loyalty to a corporation that you can't see your hand in front your face. I, on the other hand, will most likely purchase both the PS4 AND XOne. I don't set limits on myself like a you.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

again, links?

Mr-Kutaragi

last place kutargi, he lost the whole market share for SONY pretty fast, lol, and came in last place last gen, all with the belief in the CELL hahahahahaa what a failure joke, nice avatar :lol:

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

again, links?

Mr-Kutaragi

vgchartz is not a pro-ms site and it's the laughing stock of the forum. we don't use it. it's not accurate.

a paid analyst who estimates and whose early estimates were shown to be way, way off?

your third link refers to the second link.

please stop going around like the sales numbers are official. the ps3 is probably ahead but we don't know for sure until there are official numbers from both ms and sony.

[QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]does it matter though? The difference is so small that it's not worth bragging about regardless of who is declared "winner"NFJSupreme

that is a great jump for them but I ment it's not much to brag about as far as saying "Sony sold more than MS" or "MS sold more than Sony"  when its all said and done we will be looking at a few hundred thousand units here.  When you are talking 10s of millions of units sold it isn't really much.

They just about finished above SONY by the time the new gen came around. Lifetime sales SONY will be ahead. Despite a rediculous price, lack of world wide release and an awful furst 18 months for software.

 

This is the power of the Playstation brand

-Snooze-

old news....it just goes to show that hardware isn't everything. 

[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

again, links?

CaseyWegner

vgchartz is not a pro-ms site and it's the laughing stock of the forum. we don't use it. it's not accurate.

a paid analyst who estimates and whose early estimates were shown to be way, way off?

your third link refers to the second link.

please stop going around like the sales numbers are official. the ps3 is probably ahead but we don't know for sure until there are official numbers from both ms and sony.

[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"][QUOTE="kingtito"] Is that why VGcharts have been debunked already? Sony has yet to come out with the official numbers. They've only come out with COMBINED numbers of PS3 & PS2 sales. Why is that? Is it because Sony is ashamed of their sales total and the fact they're still behind the 360 7 years later? Why don't explain why the refuse to release NA numbers and have combined their sales with the PS2? Stop posting because you just make yourself sound like a total tool when you do.kingtito

1. Yet the numbers haven't come from Sony have they? Only Sony and MS know what was sold and what wasn't. VGvharts bwhahahaha you're an idiot if you trust that site cause GS doesn't and thus we don't use them.

2. WTF?? Sony would be the 1st company to brag. They were claiming victory with the PS2 soon as they passed everyone in sales and claimed "next-gen doesn't start till we say so". WTF would you call that?

3. Here we go with the excuses. Sony had brand recognition, MS had the RROD to deal with which hurt the brand at launch. Sony had EVERYTHING going for them UNTIL the launch. Sony screwed up not anyone else. The Wii launched at the same time the PS3 did and they caught and passed the 360 easily. Anymore excuses?

4. Except that they landed in 2nd behind the Wii and had MORE games than the PS3. You sir are about as lame as they come.

5. How am I raging? I'm correcting your obvious mistakes. You're so blinding by loyalty to a corporation that you can't see your hand in front your face. I, on the other hand, will most likely purchase both the PS4 AND XOne. I don't set limits on myself like a you.

[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

again, links?

XBOunity

last place kutargi, he lost the whole market share for SONY pretty fast, lol, and came in last place last gen, all with the belief in the CELL hahahahahaa what a failure joke, nice avatar :lol:

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"] Pro MS site, which xbox fan quote entire gen, admit xbox last place: http://www.vgchartz.com/article/250980/playstation-3-lifetime-sales-overtakes-the-xbox-360/ Report of paid analyst, get your visa or mastercard read: http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=238426#.UO3qEImLyqA Summaries of report from other pro MS website: http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/01/10/report-ps3-surpasses-xbox-360s-worldwide-shipped-total Maybe you can lock thread now, or... maybe not.Mr-Kutaragi

vgchartz is not a pro-ms site and it's the laughing stock of the forum. we don't use it. it's not accurate.

a paid analyst who estimates and whose early estimates were shown to be way, way off?

your third link refers to the second link.

please stop going around like the sales numbers are official. the ps3 is probably ahead but we don't know for sure until there are official numbers from both ms and sony.

no. it's been a laughing stock since before the generation started and aren't pro-ms. don't make things up, dude.

ahead by more? what in the world would you base that on?

if the third link was a summary, which i already knew it was, why even post the second link which isn't even readily available?

"xbox is last place no game" is not a coherent sentence.

[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

vgchartz is not a pro-ms site and it's the laughing stock of the forum. we don't use it. it's not accurate.

a paid analyst who estimates and whose early estimates were shown to be way, way off?

your third link refers to the second link.

please stop going around like the sales numbers are official. the ps3 is probably ahead but we don't know for sure until there are official numbers from both ms and sony.

CaseyWegner

no. it's been a laughing stock since before the generation started and aren't pro-ms. don't make things up, dude.

ahead by more? what in the world would you base that on?

if the third link was a summary, which i already knew it was, why even post the second link which isn't even readily available?

"xbox is last place no game" is not a coherent sentence.