Pachter: Next Xbox Will Support 4K, 240 FPS, and Virtual Reality

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#1 Alexkid179
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Pachter: Next Xbox Will Support 4K, 240 FPS, and Virtual Reality

“So I think there will be a streaming device, like a $100 Xbox console that doesn’t run in 4K or 240 frames per second. And then I think there will be a more expensive $400 console that supports 4K, 240 FPS, virtual reality.”

https://gamerant.com/next-xbox-features-4k-240-fps-virtual-reality/

Does anyone here have a PC more powerful that this?

$400 is would be sweet for this kind of performance, if you're a Sony fan would you switch to MS's system it they could deliver on this projection?

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#2 VFighter
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Wow...just wow.

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#3  Edited By DrLostRib
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i would hope he doesn't actually think it will do 4k and 240fps, but instead means it will support 240hz displays

X1S and X has 120hz support

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#4 04dcarraher
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Not going to happen. 240hz support sure actually reach 240 fps at 4k wont happen. Then Game streaming has its issues from input lag to compression artifacts, and not everyone has fast internet unlimited internet.

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#5 hrt_rulz01
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I think 4k/60FPS is a more likely target.

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#6  Edited By deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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Pachter= Fake news sorry I can't take anything that guy says seriously.

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#7  Edited By deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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I don't know who's worse Pachter or the people who publish his shit on sites like this one.

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#8 BenjaminBanklin
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Siiiigh, Oh, Pachter.

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#9 deactivated-5f2b4872031c2
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Here we go again. I can't understand why people post anything this dude has to say anymore.

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#10 npiet1
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@hrt_rulz01 said:

I think 4k/60FPS is a more likely target.

This is what I'm expecting too, with probably VR support maybe wireless.

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#11 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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Can it make games 5d?

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#12 JustPlainLucas
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Is 240 FPS even possible?

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#13 rzxv04
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1080p 240 hz reprojected whatever.

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#14 pyro1245
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I dunno about that.....

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#15 GarGx1
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He's an "Analyst" and bad one at that, do go hoping that he's right.

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#16 Telekill
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240fps on an NES game perhaps. Why would you need 240fps?

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His fanboyism and ridiculous cries for attention never cease to amaze me.

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#18 darkRecon6Opt
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Not gonna happen

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Lol

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#20 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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240FPS?... PC is CPU bottlenecked with i7's at 5GHz but the next XBOX at $400 with a 200w TDP will do 240FPS?... Sure. I believe you.

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#21 BassMan
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Let's aim for at least 1080p/60fps for next gen as they fucked that up this gen.

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The guy is an idiot.

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#23 rmpumper
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@techhog89 said:

His fanboyism and ridiculous cries for attention never cease to amaze me.

He's a xbone fanboy now? The guy used to say that PS3 is "more powerful than any PC out there" back in the day.

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#24 horgen  Moderator
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Even next version of display port isn't planned to support 4K at 240Hz.

@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

240FPS?... PC is CPU bottlenecked with i7's at 5GHz but the next XBOX at $400 with a 200w TDP will do 240FPS?... Sure. I believe you.

Maybe they will have 3 out 4 frames to be just black images. :P

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#26  Edited By freedom01  Moderator
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lol Pachter

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#27  Edited By Techhog89
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@rmpumper said:
@techhog89 said:

His fanboyism and ridiculous cries for attention never cease to amaze me.

He's a xbone fanboy now? The guy used to say that PS3 is "more powerful than any PC out there" back in the day.

He's a fanboy of whoever has the most powerful system on paper.

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#28  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@freedom01 said:

lol Pachter

Hes referred to as Michael Sphincter on another multiplat forum I use lol. Zero credibility right there. And what's even funnier is that Pachter revealed to be a failed Wall Street analyst with little to no credibility whatsoever. I do remember the guys at Pretty Good Gaming roasting the hell out of his predictions lol.

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When was the last time he got something right?

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Having the most powerful console isn't the winning factor, it's the software exclusive that gives the console an advantage and Xbox One X proves that not even the most powerful console in the world can lead to great sales. Sony can still kill them with hit exclusive titles on PS4 & eventually PS5. Unless the power difference is substantial (which I doubt), the need for a newer next-gen console is not as strong as it was during the 360/PS3 days. The console would have to prove to add some extra dimensional stuff to 3rd party games that the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X cannot do. If it's simply adding 60fps along with the now standard 4K resolution, it won't be catching on with the casuals, who probably don't have the cash to shell out for undoubtedly high price point of the system. MS said they want the most powerful hardware for each generation, sadly though, that's not always going to be the case.

I know Pachter is just an Analyst, he's only doing his job but at the same time, he should know by now a console aiming 4K/240hz is not going to happened.

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Wow I guess the next Xbox isn’t going to sell much , because lemmings hate VR ?

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#32  Edited By Zappat
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@daredevils2k said:

Wow I guess the next Xbox isn’t going to sell much , because lemmings hate VR ?

Just like they hated movie-games before MS bought the Hellblade studio or the best version of RDR2 or resolution advantages before the X or renting game services before Gamepass lol

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Wow...just wow.

I get the same feeling whenever the clown in question is mentioned as a reliable source.

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@alexkid179 said:

Pachter: Next Xbox Will Support 4K, 240 FPS, and Virtual Reality

“So I think there will be a streaming device, like a $100 Xbox console that doesn’t run in 4K or 240 frames per second. And then I think there will be a more expensive $400 console that supports 4K, 240 FPS, virtual reality.”

https://gamerant.com/next-xbox-features-4k-240-fps-virtual-reality/

Does anyone here have a PC more powerful that this?

$400 is would be sweet for this kind of performance, if you're a Sony fan would you switch to MS's system it they could deliver on this projection?

I will when the next xbox comes out yes.

not sure if one understands how 'future' works

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MS also going to be enterprising Scarlet Cloud for compute. Thats def some positive news as gaming will benefit with the constant upgrading, see more innovative use in games like Crackdown 3 with the tech expanding.

Def. Dont see 4k/240, thats def some marketing jargon like Sony Playing with the words 4k tv gaming/4k gaming tv for the PS4 Pro.

Finally, just what we all know, MS will make sure they have the most powerful box out and the dark horse the streaming/scarlet cloud stuff that sounds like it will leave Sony in the dust tech wise but Sony still has the gaming ip.

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@BigBadBully said:

MS also going to be enterprising Scarlet Cloud for compute. Thats def some positive news as gaming will benefit with the constant upgrading, see more innovative use in games like Crackdown 3 with the tech expanding.

Def. Dont see 4k/240, thats def some marketing jargon like Sony Playing with the words 4k tv gaming/4k gaming tv for the PS4 Pro.

Finally, just what we all know, MS will make sure they have the most powerful box out and the dark horse the streaming/scarlet cloud stuff that sounds like it will leave Sony in the dust tech wise but Sony still has the gaming ip.

its like nobody in this forum understands how future works.

what is future for MS is also future for everyone else, moores law works for all of computer technology, not just xbox

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#37 Fedor
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It's 4k 30fps for consoles next gen. Anything better is a pipe dream.

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#39 BigBadBully
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@tryit: Yes, i meant MS gaming eco system not just xbox. PC gaming/xcloud/gamepass will benefit. So yeah not just xbox.

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#40 TryIt
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@BigBadBully said:

@tryit: Yes, i meant MS gaming eco system not just xbox. PC gaming/xcloud/gamepass will benefit. So yeah not just xbox.

PC gaming absolutly does not need help from MS other than Windows. They are horrible in the PC space.

That said, ,my point is when the new xbox comes out EVERYTHING will be more powerful, PC's will be more powerful then they are not, PS4 will be more powerful then it is now, cell phones will be more power, smart phone watches....

see the pattern here?

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#41 VFighter
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@tryit: Wow...that's sooooo insightful, do you have a magic ball or something?!?

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#42 Blackhairedhero
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He said the same thing about the PS5

https://www.google.com/amp/s/gadgets.ndtv.com/games/news/ps5-specifications-may-have-4k-and-240fps-support-for-ps-vr-analyst-1967915%3famp=1&akamai-rum=off#ampf=undefined

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#43 freedom01  Moderator
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@davillain- said:

Having the most powerful console isn't the winning factor, it's the software exclusive that gives the console an advantage and Xbox One X proves that not even the most powerful console in the world can lead to great sales. Sony can still kill them with hit exclusive titles on PS4 & eventually PS5. Unless the power difference is substantial (which I doubt), the need for a newer next-gen console is not as strong as it was during the 360/PS3 days. The console would have to prove to add some extra dimensional stuff to 3rd party games that the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X cannot do. If it's simply adding 60fps along with the now standard 4K resolution, it won't be catching on with the casuals, who probably don't have the cash to shell out for undoubtedly high price point of the system. MS said they want the most powerful hardware for each generation, sadly though, that's not always going to be the case.

I know Pachter is just an Analyst, he's only doing his job but at the same time, he should know by now a console aiming 4K/240hz is not going to happened.

especially at a price point of $400

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#44  Edited By APiranhaAteMyVa
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Even getting past the raw power required to achieve this, current TVs and most likely TVs for the next 2-3 years won't do 4K/240Hz over HDMI. The target audience will be so small that can achieve 4K/240Hz just a few PC monitors it would be a complete waste of resources.

4K/60 I think will be the target, with powerhouse games going 4K/30Hz

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#45 DocSanchez
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Being more realistic it will reach the power level they were hinting at for this gen.

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#46  Edited By cainetao11
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Whatever.

Im loving RDR2 which shits on my neighbors Pro version. He am cry LMAO

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#47  Edited By ProperMotion
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He probably didn’t mean at the same time. He can’t be that dumb.

Not even PC will be 4K 240hz next gen.

The bandwidth required for 4K 240hz 4:2:2 Chroma Sampling, and 10 bit Color Depth isnt possible with HDMI 2.1, yes I said HDMI 2.1. And HDMI 2.1 isn’t even really out yet

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#48 onesiphorus
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@warmblur said:

Pachter= Fake news sorry I can't take anything that guy says seriously.

How is a poorly-thoughtout analysis is considered "fake news"? I thought that fake news is a fabricated news report intented to harm a usually political opponent.

Anyway, Pachter has shown through his work to be as reliable as most pundits on the mainstream news networks. Very unreliable.

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If he said next gen, Xbox will support those, I'd say yeah. But the first Xbox of 9th gen, I doubt it comes with those things, definitely not Day 1.