Pachter's November Sales Forecast

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#1 -Renegade
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It's NPD week again and time for Wedbush Morgan's analyst Michael Pachter to announce his predictions. He forecasts sales above $1 billion for the month of November, up 24% from last November. He estimates that $770 million will come from new platforms (PS3, Wii, 360, PSP and DS).

His hardware predictions are:

Wii - 950,000
Xbox 360 - 750,000
PS3 - 420,000
PS2 - 485,000
PSP - 650,000
DS - 1,350,000
GBA - 170,000

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well the ps3 beat the GBA at least ;)
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So does this mean it is time to change your sig Renegade? Or do you think Pachter might be wrong? Or will there be a miracle on 42nd street and PS3 outsell 360 in December by a few hundred thousand? Or are you considering January as part of the season and hoping the gift card effect will put them over the top?
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The DS... it's such a wrecking little beast. :(
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Michael Pachter, the least accurate Analyst ever. Has he honestly ever got a prediction right? didnt he say something about MGS 4 going to 360 soon or something like that?
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That would be a HUGE November for the DS. I'd be willing to wager that would be the highest November ever. Even higher than the PS2's best November.

Also, I'd just be shocked in general if that many consoles sold. That's a ton of money poured into hardware. 950,000 Wiis? I know NOA was stockpiling from Japan, but 950,000 is a huge number. I don't know if they stockpiled that much, just to release them in November, when December is actually the bigger month.

The DS is the most amazing sales machine ever. I can't believe the numbers it's putting up.

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So does this mean it is time to change your sig Renegade? Or do you think Pachter might be wrong? Or will there be a miracle on 42nd street and PS3 outsell 360 in December by a few hundred thousand? Or are you considering January as part of the season and hoping the gift card effect will put them over the top?JiveT

Nope when I said holiday sales I meant Nov. and Dec.and not just the USA the world.

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Michael Pachter, the least accurate Analyst ever. Has he honestly ever got a prediction right?black_awpN1

Exactly how off is he? Like more than 15%?

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[QUOTE="JiveT"]So does this mean it is time to change your sig Renegade? Or do you think Pachter might be wrong? Or will there be a miracle on 42nd street and PS3 outsell 360 in December by a few hundred thousand? Or are you considering January as part of the season and hoping the gift card effect will put them over the top?-Renegade

Nope when I said holiday sales I meant Nov. and Dec.and not just the USA the world.

Theres no way to measure world sales though .... Aside from the UK there are no accurate figures for Europe.
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Michael Pachter, the least accurate Analyst ever. Has he honestly ever got a prediction right? didnt he say something about MGS 4 going to 360 soon or something like that? black_awpN1
He's awful, its like he does his predictions like I used to do my homework, 5 minutes before class.
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[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]Michael Pachter, the least accurate Analyst ever. Has he honestly ever got a prediction right? didnt he say something about MGS 4 going to 360 soon or something like that? blue_hazy_basic
He's awful, its like he does his predictions like I used to do my homework, 5 minutes before class.

Ha Ha so true. I think he just sleeps all day then when his boss comes to collect his Reports, he just writes down whatever comes into his head in the last 30 seconds.

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I predict Pachter will not be in the predicting business much longer
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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]So does this mean it is time to change your sig Renegade? Or do you think Pachter might be wrong? Or will there be a miracle on 42nd street and PS3 outsell 360 in December by a few hundred thousand? Or are you considering January as part of the season and hoping the gift card effect will put them over the top?blue_hazy_basic

Nope when I said holiday sales I meant Nov. and Dec.and not just the USA the world.

Theres no way to measure world sales though .... Aside from the UK there are no accurate figures for Europe.

All three will send out quartly reports.

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I don't think we need predictions for this. Everybody knows the PS3 will always be last place this gen.

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]So does this mean it is time to change your sig Renegade? Or do you think Pachter might be wrong? Or will there be a miracle on 42nd street and PS3 outsell 360 in December by a few hundred thousand? Or are you considering January as part of the season and hoping the gift card effect will put them over the top?-Renegade

Nope when I said holiday sales I meant Nov. and Dec.and not just the USA the world.

Theres no way to measure world sales though .... Aside from the UK there are no accurate figures for Europe.

All three will send out quartly reports.

but those quarterly reports aren't month specific .... so how will you know holiday sales?
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[QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]So does this mean it is time to change your sig Renegade? Or do you think Pachter might be wrong? Or will there be a miracle on 42nd street and PS3 outsell 360 in December by a few hundred thousand? Or are you considering January as part of the season and hoping the gift card effect will put them over the top?blue_hazy_basic

Nope when I said holiday sales I meant Nov. and Dec.and not just the USA the world.

Theres no way to measure world sales though .... Aside from the UK there are no accurate figures for Europe.

All three will send out quartly reports.

but those quarterly reports aren't month specific .... so how will you know holiday sales?

even if they aren't month specific it's only 3 months in a quarter.

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]So does this mean it is time to change your sig Renegade? Or do you think Pachter might be wrong? Or will there be a miracle on 42nd street and PS3 outsell 360 in December by a few hundred thousand? Or are you considering January as part of the season and hoping the gift card effect will put them over the top?Ontain

Nope when I said holiday sales I meant Nov. and Dec.and not just the USA the world.

Theres no way to measure world sales though .... Aside from the UK there are no accurate figures for Europe.

All three will send out quartly reports.

but those quarterly reports aren't month specific .... so how will you know holiday sales?

even if they aren't month specific it's only 3 months in a quarter.

True, but that still doesn't give you accurate Nov/Dec figures, if thats what hes wanting, what with price cuts and new SKU'setc. (didn't they come in Sept? my poor addled old mine can't remember!)
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Well it looks like Nintendo is going to have a Marry Christmas lol. The 360 sales are solid, like I expected. As for Sony, I still don't know if its a bad thing that the PS2 is still outselling the PS3 lol.
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]So does this mean it is time to change your sig Renegade? Or do you think Pachter might be wrong? Or will there be a miracle on 42nd street and PS3 outsell 360 in December by a few hundred thousand? Or are you considering January as part of the season and hoping the gift card effect will put them over the top?-Renegade

Nope when I said holiday sales I meant Nov. and Dec.and not just the USA the world.

Theres no way to measure world sales though .... Aside from the UK there are no accurate figures for Europe.

All three will send out quartly reports.

They have different quarters...And you are using semi biased sources that can be spun slightly (like not including specifics and just include broad facts, like all consoles sold or total revenue).

BTW, Europe and Japan will not make up that large of a deficit, nor adding in other regions.

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]So does this mean it is time to change your sig Renegade? Or do you think Pachter might be wrong? Or will there be a miracle on 42nd street and PS3 outsell 360 in December by a few hundred thousand? Or are you considering January as part of the season and hoping the gift card effect will put them over the top?-Renegade

Nope when I said holiday sales I meant Nov. and Dec.and not just the USA the world.

Theres no way to measure world sales though .... Aside from the UK there are no accurate figures for Europe.

All three will send out quartly reports.

But then you'll include october.Which is totally fine except you defined holiday season as Nov. and Dec.

EDIT: Oh and to those worried about different quarters between MSFT and SNE, don't worry. They have different fiscal year ends, but their quarters line up evenly. INOW, they both have a quarter ending 12/31.

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360 should sell more than that. It just got Halo and I suspect many people will get a 360 + Halo 3 for Christmas.
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HAPPY HOLIDAYS -RENEGADE!!!!!