Pander Age: The Veilguard has reached a new low. Thank you Bioware.

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#1 hardwenzen
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Dragon Age: The Veilguard Has A "No Death" Setting

"It's an option to make sure players of all abilities can show up."


1. What the **** is the point of even playing a video game when nothing is at stake?
2. Have you seen a game that is more desperate with all this pandering? Like holy shit, bruh, this is some servere "PLEASE PLAY OUR GAME!!! WE BEG OF YOU" BS that i haven't seen in some time.

Like Jesus Christ, if you're at a point in your life when you need to use a "can't die" difficulty, why don't you save that $70, and go watch a playthrough on youtube/twitch instead? This is dumb as hell. FF16 tried hard to pander to casuals with its braindead difficulty, and look where it got em. This game is gonna be a magnificent disaster, please be hyped😁


BioWare's upcoming fantasy RPG, Dragon Age: The Veilguard, has a lot of changes to the way combat works, and one of them is a "no death" setting that allows players to avoid having their character die mid-combat.

"[None of the difficulty settings] are a cheat," game director Corrine Busche recently explained (via Game Informer). "It's an option to make sure players of all abilities can show up."

The game includes four difficulty settings: Storyteller, Adventurer, Nightmare, and Unbound. Nightmare offers an intense challenge, and once you select that mode, it's permanent, unlike the other difficulty options. Meanwhile, Unbound exists as a customizable mode where players can tweak specific aspects of combat, like the amount of damage done to enemies and the amount of damage received by them.

Unbound also allows players to adjust how much help is given by the game's waypoints, adjust timing to increase or decrease the difficulty of parrying an enemy during combat, and tweak the intensity of the game's aim-assist. There's even an "auto-aim" option.

Unbound mode is also where players will find the option to turn off death entirely. Busche says the game also includes more standard accessibility settings, though she did not go into detail on what specific settings are available. But regardless, fans who have physical disabilities (or perhaps don't wish to be pulled out of the game's immersion every time its hero drops dead) will likely be pleased to know that BioWare has created the game's combat system in a manner that is meant to be inclusive for players of all abilities and skill-levels.

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#2 R4gn4r0k
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This thread is so boring it puts Joe Biden to sleep.

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#3 Chutebox  Online
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@R4gn4r0k: Nothing to do with the thread 🤭

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#4 hardwenzen
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@R4gn4r0k said:

This thread is so boring it puts Joe Biden to sleep.

You hate on all my beautiful threads, and you wouldn't believe how hard it triggers me.

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@R4gn4r0k said:

This thread is so boring it puts Joe Biden to sleep.

These days that appears to be a very very low bar.

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@hardwenzen said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

This thread is so boring it puts Joe Biden to sleep.

You hate on all my beautiful threads, and you wouldn't believe how hard it triggers me.

Great thread 👏 It won't be complete until Pedro comes in and has a meltdown.

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@R4gn4r0k said:

This thread is so boring it puts Joe Biden to sleep.

Honestly, hardwenzen is on point regarding Bioware's new Dragon Age game. I'm not exactly impressed with what's been shown so far. I won't pay full price, so it looks like I'll resub to PlayPro for this one. But unless the reviews say otherwise, Bioware is dead if this flops. You can forget about Mass Effect 4 as I don't see that game taking off unless Veilguard becomes a hit.

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Oh hell yeah! Pretty great option to have available in a game if you ask me.

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#9 hardwenzen
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Oh hell yeah! Pretty great option to have available in a game if you ask me.

Comes from a mimic user. Not surprising, bro.

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@hardwenzen said:
@Archangel3371 said:

Oh hell yeah! Pretty great option to have available in a game if you ask me.

Comes from a mimic user. Not surprising, bro.

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#11  Edited By Pedro
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Great thread 👏 It won't be complete until Pedro comes in and has a meltdown.

Living rent free.😂
Living rent free.😂
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I fail to see the issue. If some disabled person with very limited motor skills wants to enjoy the game then I don't see the problem with this option, just don't use it if you don't want to.

accessibility options are always a good thing in games.

that being said, the game is not looking like something I want to play at this point for other reasons.

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Stop pretending they didn't ruin the combat with DA2.

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@hardwenzen: By the way. Stop BS in the articles! They want you to stop bringing up woke BS in the articles. I don't have any problems talking about it here in SW but not in the comments.

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#16 DaVillain  Moderator
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@silentchief said:

Great thread 👏 It won't be complete until Pedro comes in and has a meltdown.

How do you let Pedro get into your head? Silly you🤨

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@R4gn4r0k said:

This thread is so boring it puts Joe Biden to sleep.

These days, Joe Biden is tired all the time anyway. He has jet-lag apparently.

Anyway, a no death difficulty seems ridiculous to me, as does a story mode difficulty. I want a challenge! But as long as I can play Dragon Age on Nightmare difficulty I will be able to sleep at night. Each player to his own.

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@with_teeth26 said:

I fail to see the issue. If some disabled person with very limited motor skills wants to enjoy the game then I don't see the problem with this option, just don't use it if you don't want to.

accessibility options are always a good thing in games.

that being said, the game is not looking like something I want to play at this point for other reasons.

Don't be silly, if it has something (that is optional) in a game that wenzen doesn't agree with then its garbage...oh my bad that's just his opinions 🤣🤣🤣

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@pmanden said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

This thread is so boring it puts Joe Biden to sleep.

These days, Joe Biden is tired all the time anyway. He has jet-lag apparently.

Anyway, a no death difficulty seems ridiculous to me, as does a story mode difficulty. I want a challenge! But as long as I can play Dragon Age on Nightmare difficulty I will be able to sleep at night. Each player to his own.

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@davillain said:
@silentchief said:

Great thread 👏 It won't be complete until Pedro comes in and has a meltdown.

How do you let Pedro get into your head? Silly you🤨

It is a magical power I have.😂
It is a magical power I have.😂

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Oh the horror! That we include an option for people of low skill or disability to play a game and enjoy it like the rest of us! HOW DARE THEY BE INCLUSIVE AND HAVE OPTIONS!

No, me elitist brothers! HARDCORE MODE OR NOTHING! One life allowed, then you have to restart the game!

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#22  Edited By Nirgal
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That's just customizable difficult.

Nobody is forcing you to enable that option.

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#23 FireEmblem_Man
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Game looks bad, tries too hard to be cool and hip for the Fortnite crowd and Baldur's Gate 3 success, also screams endless Micro-Transactions because it's EA. This will probably the final nail in Bioware. Dread Wolf at least had a badass name to it, this does not.

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#24 Pedro
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@FireEmblem_Man said:

Game looks bad, tries too hard to be cool and hip for the Fortnite crowd and Baldur's Gate 3 success, also screams endless Micro-Transactions because it's EA. This will probably the final nail in Bioware. Dread Wolf at least had a badass name to it, this does not.

I think you should educate yourself prior to parading your ignorance on the topic.🤷🏽‍♂️

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#25  Edited By Silentchief
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@Pedro said:
@davillain said:
@silentchief said:

Great thread 👏 It won't be complete until Pedro comes in and has a meltdown.

How do you let Pedro get into your head? Silly you🤨

It is a magical power I have.😂
It is a magical power I have.😂

Ohh he's not I just knew like clockwork he would defend this trash... I was not disappointed 🤣

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#26 Pedro
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@silentchief said:

Ohh he's not I just knew like clockwork he would defend this trash... I was not disappointed 🤣

I have yet to state anything about the feature.😂

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#27 Silentchief
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@davillain said:

@hardwenzen: By the way. Stop BS in the articles! They want you to stop bringing up woke BS in the articles. I don't have any problems talking about it here in SW but not in the comments.

Who's they? 🤣

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@Pedro said:
@silentchief said:

Ohh he's not I just knew like clockwork he would defend this trash... I was not disappointed 🤣

I have yet to state anything about the feature.😂

You message a moderator yet to shutdown the thread?

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#29 Pedro
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@silentchief said:

Ohh he's not I just knew like clockwork he would defend this trash... I was not disappointed 🤣

Made a claim and when it backfired, deflect with butthurt that is equally false.😂

@silentchief said:

You message a moderator yet to shutdown the thread?

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#30  Edited By Silentchief
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@Pedro said:
@silentchief said:

Ohh he's not I just knew like clockwork he would defend this trash... I was not disappointed 🤣

Made a claim and when it backfired, deflect with butthurt that is equally false.😂

@silentchief said:

You message a moderator yet to shutdown the thread?

You literally jumped in the thread on the first page just like I knew you would 🤣.

This went exactly as advertised.

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#31 Pedro
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@silentchief said:

You literally jumped in the thread on the first page just like I knew you would 🤣.

Moved the goalpost again.😂 Let me remind you of your initial claim in which has yet to transpired.

@silentchief said:

Great thread 👏 It won't be complete until Pedro comes in and has a meltdown.

All because I am live rent free in your head. Now deflect and show me your true meltdown🤣

My magic is at work
My magic is at work

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#32 Silentchief
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@Pedro said:
@silentchief said:

You literally jumped in the thread on the first page just like I knew you would 🤣.

Moved the goalpost again.😂 Let me remind you of your initial claim in which has yet to transpired.

@silentchief said:

Great thread 👏 It won't be complete until Pedro comes in and has a meltdown.

All because I am live rent free in your head. Now deflect and show me your true meltdown🤣

My magic is at work
My magic is at work

Already doing the " I know you are but what am I" ?

Real footage of Pedro entering the thread

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#33 Archangel3371
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@Pedro: You’re not in his head but he thought of you right away. 🤦‍♂️😂

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#34 Pedro
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@Pedro: You’re not in his head but he thought of you right away. 🤦‍♂️😂

I know and he is now taking the time to create AI art of me.😂 Rent free for life.🤣

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@Pedro said:
@Archangel3371 said:

@Pedro: You’re not in his head but he thought of you right away. 🤦‍♂️😂

I know and he is now taking the time to create AI art of me.😂 Rent free for life.🤣

So it's an accurate depiction? Good to know 🤣

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#36 Pedro
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@silentchief said:

So it's an accurate depiction? Good to know 🤣

I am acknowledging you because the desire for my attention is greatly wanted.

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#37 BassMan
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I have no issue with super easy/story difficulties in games or people using cheats. Let people enjoy the games the way they want.

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#38 SargentD
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Hope the Dwarfs are easy too, I'm trying to clap mad cheeks in this game.

Hope thier super easy, some straight up dwarf whores

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#39 mrbojangles25
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@BassMan said:

I have no issue with super easy/story difficulties in games or people using cheats. Let people enjoy the games the way they want.

Right?

I mean what's so hard to understand about this? Accommodating all skill levels is a good thing, and doesn't mean anything negative.

If you want to criticize EA/Bioware for capitalizing on something essentially all games do--that is, most games have different difficulty settings, many times have a "story" or "explorer" easy mode--then that's fine. But not simply for having it.

Swear to god these "real games are hard" folks are like the unholy spawn of hipsters and elitists.

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@mrbojangles25 said:

Oh the horror! That we include an option for people of low skill or disability to play a game and enjoy it like the rest of us! HOW DARE THEY BE INCLUSIVE AND HAVE OPTIONS!

No, me elitist brothers! HARDCORE MODE OR NOTHING! One life allowed, then you have to restart the game!

Nah, half a life only. You start the game severely injured, and it is not possible to heal your character. When you die, the SSD is automatically and instantly deleted and your console explodes! Take that softcore gamers!

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#41 Djoffer123
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That is definitely a major concern, I mean an optional toggle will definitely have a great impact whatever I enjoy the game or not!🙄🙄

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#42  Edited By Nirgal
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This feels like what in the past would be a cheat code, but placed in the menu as an accessible option.

I am quite ok with that, I actually feel that other games would have probably try to sell you this "feature" as micro transaction.

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#43 Nirgal
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@pmanden: That's for pussies.

You can just get another console.

The game should make you place your genitals between a large pair of automatic scissors, just to be able to play. After you do so, pincers will automatically hold them there until you beat the game.

If you loose, the scissors will do their thing.

And if you are a woman? This is a game for men. Let the women make the sandwiches while you play.

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#44 Vaasman
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Imagine getting your ass chapped because someone else can play easy mode in a single-player story-heavy game, and it doesn't affect your experience in any way.

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#45  Edited By nintendoboy16
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Over an... option? This is the same gatekeepy BS Mike Matei (formerly of Cinemassacre) did over Mario 3D World and White Tanooki Suit.

To that I say...

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#46 ZmanBarzel
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Sounds fine with me. Then again, I've also long preached in favor of button combo or the like that you could input to skip directly to the end of an action encounter in a narrative action-adventure game (e.g. Uncharted, Tomb Raider 2013) and get you back to the story.

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I'm cool with player settings in story driven games that allow the gamer to not get "stuck" if all theyre out for is the story. Doesn't bother me.

I also really appreciate when a game says, "eff you... Beat me or cry more..." when I beat a Miyazaki game I feel like I beat the developer and it's far more rewarding.... Still.... Different strokes for different folks.

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#48 mrbojangles25
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@pmanden said:
@mrbojangles25 said:

Oh the horror! That we include an option for people of low skill or disability to play a game and enjoy it like the rest of us! HOW DARE THEY BE INCLUSIVE AND HAVE OPTIONS!

No, me elitist brothers! HARDCORE MODE OR NOTHING! One life allowed, then you have to restart the game!

Nah, half a life only. You start the game severely injured, and it is not possible to heal your character. When you die, the SSD is automatically and instantly deleted and your console explodes! Take that softcore gamers!

I can actually see that being a thing in the next few years. Like, you fail the game, it bricks your system.

People need to get their dopamine hit somewhere else I think sometimes.

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#49 Pedro
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@silentchief said:

Ohh he's not I just knew like clockwork he would defend this trash... I was not disappointed 🤣

Isn't hilarious that you and the OP are the only two who are upset of this?🤭

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#50 pmanden
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@nirgal said:

@pmanden: That's for pussies.

You can just get another console.

The game should make you place your genitals between a large pair of automatic scissors, just to be able to play. After you do so, pincers will automatically hold them there until you beat the game.

If you loose, the scissors will do their thing.

And if you are a woman? This is a game for men. Let the women make the sandwiches while you play.

Lol, after reading your post I might have to go back to old-school gaming to escape the atrocities you just described. Wait, wasn't playing ET on Atari 2600 pretty much just like what you described...?