Parallax Mapping PSA for lemmings, brought to you by HoJ.

Talk about beating a dead horse...

And if you look you will find some screens that show some really amazing textures in PDZ, but yeah.. I dnt really care all that much.

lol @ console sheep thinking parallax mapping will give the ultimate in textures

true displacement mapping + geometry shaders FTW

[QUOTE="flamingschmoes2"] Owned! I know you're jealous :lol:Hammerofjustice

[QUOTE="Cubs360"][QUOTE="flamingschmoes2"] Owned! I know you're jealous :lol:Hammerofjustice

:shock::shock::shock:

/hide behind PC


Hammerofjustice

lol @ console sheep thinking parallax mapping will give the ultimate in textures

true displacement mapping + geometry shaders FTW

daaaaamn, whats that from? just a demonstration?

mikemil828

.Red_Sniper

lol @ console sheep thinking parallax mapping will give the ultimate in textures

true displacement mapping + geometry shaders FTWmikemil828

Do surfaces actually look like that in any PC game? No? Then what's your point? Obviously PC hardware with it's 318763GB of memory has the upper hand when it comes to textures, but what you posted isn't exactly what I'd call applicable in realtime.

[QUOTE="mikemil828"]

lol @ console sheep thinking parallax mapping will give the ultimate in textures

true displacement mapping + geometry shaders FTW

daaaaamn, whats that from? just a demonstration?

lemonmanblugdo1

[QUOTE="mikemil828"]

lol @ console sheep thinking parallax mapping will give the ultimate in textures

true displacement mapping + geometry shaders FTWInsaneBasura

Do surfaces actually look like that in any PC game? No? Then what's your point? Obviously PC hardware with it's 318763GB of memory has the upper hand when it comes to textures, but what you posted isn't exactly what I'd call applicable in realtime.

They do in the new Nvidia Cascades Demo:

A 8800 can render these textures, simulate the physics of that water fall, simulate the AI in that bug over there among other things at over 30 fps And if a tech demo like this can do it, you can expect that most PC games will have the same texture quality if not better.

Anyway my point is that it rather pointless for console sheep to go on about textures as they will never be able to match what the PC can do, and isn't that what consoles ultimately try to live up to? PC Quality?

Oh and FYI : PC's don't have 318763GB of memory

EDIT: Oh yeah, I forgot, the 8800 GTX could do all that at over 30 fps with 4xAA/16xAF

Ayneone notice when you post IGN.com or Gamespot screens, it doesn't look 100% the greatest? But when I post camera shots, even with its dingy lighting, it looks so much better? Real shots prove a point better. Post real shots next timeflamingschmoes2

Gamespot and IGN screens are direct feed (like those Cascade picture I posted), they are the actual true output from the x360, they are almost definately more 'real' than the camera picture, where other things make the picture look better (i.e. The screen itself, the camera and lighting conditions.)

Do surfaces actually look like that in any PC game? No? Then what's your point? Obviously PC hardware with it's 318763GB of memory has the upper hand when it comes to textures, but what you posted isn't exactly what I'd call applicable in realtime.InsaneBasura

And if a tech demo like this can do it, you can expect that most PC games will have the same texture quality if not better.mikemil828

[QUOTE="mikemil828"]And if a tech demo like this can do it, you can expect that most PC games will have the same texture quality if not better.Bibbidy

Prove it.

[QUOTE="Bibbidy"][QUOTE="mikemil828"]And if a tech demo like this can do it, you can expect that most PC games will have the same texture quality if not better.mikemil828

Prove it.

[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]Do surfaces actually look like that in any PC game? No? Then what's your point? Obviously PC hardware with it's 318763GB of memory has the upper hand when it comes to textures, but what you posted isn't exactly what I'd call applicable in realtime.Makari

[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"][QUOTE="mikemil828"]

lol @ console sheep thinking parallax mapping will give the ultimate in textures

true displacement mapping + geometry shaders FTWmikemil828

Do surfaces actually look like that in any PC game? No? Then what's your point? Obviously PC hardware with it's 318763GB of memory has the upper hand when it comes to textures, but what you posted isn't exactly what I'd call applicable in realtime.

They do in the new Nvidia Cascades Demo:

A 8800 can render these textures, simulate the physics of that water fall, simulate the AI in that bug over there among other things at over 30 fps And if a tech demo like this can do it, you can expect that most PC games will have the same texture quality if not better.

Anyway my point is that it rather pointless for console sheep to go on about textures as they will never be able to match what the PC can do, and isn't that what consoles ultimately try to live up to? PC Quality?

Oh and FYI : PC's don't have 318763GB of memory

EDIT: Oh yeah, I forgot, the 8800 GTX could do all that at over 30 fps with 4xAA/16xAF

[QUOTE="mikemil828"]

[QUOTE="Bibbidy"][QUOTE="mikemil828"]And if a tech demo like this can do it, you can expect that most PC games will have the same texture quality if not better.Bibbidy

Prove it.

Then show how ignorant I am, prove it or shove it,

And that would be a techdemo taking advantage of a certain hardware setup, not an actual game. I'm not really disputing that a kickass PC can do it, I'm questioning whether a game actually will. Point being that otherwise it doesn't really matter. Currently Crysis is the most graphically advanced PC game and I don't see it having such ridiculous textures applied everywhere.

And as you should've been able to tell by my post; I agree with that point. Consoles are forever limited by their RAM.

Oh and FYI: I was exaggerating.
InsaneBasura

Wrong, it is a techdemo taking advantage of Direct X 10 offers rather than merely a certain hardware setup, there is nothing in this tech demo that all DX 10 cards shouldn't at least be able to do, one thing I notice that people seem to forget is that DX 10 isn't merely a Graphics API, it is also a minimum standard which video cards must abide by in order to be DX 10 compatible, therego all DX 10 games should be able to handle this given the developer puts it all in since all DX 10 hardware is capable of using it.

Oh and FYI: I was pretty certain you were exaggerating, I decided to play it safe and mention it just in case you weren't exaggerating

[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]
And that would be a techdemo taking advantage of a certain hardware setup, not an actual game. I'm not really disputing that a kickass PC can do it, I'm questioning whether a game actually will. Point being that otherwise it doesn't really matter. Currently Crysis is the most graphically advanced PC game and I don't see it having such ridiculous textures applied everywhere.

And as you should've been able to tell by my post; I agree with that point. Consoles are forever limited by their RAM.

Oh and FYI: I was exaggerating.
mikemil828

Wrong, it is a techdemo taking advantage of Direct X 10 offers rather than merely a certain hardware setup, there is nothing in this tech demo that all DX 10 cards shouldn't at least be able to do, one thing I notice that people seem to forget is that DX 10 isn't merely a Graphics API, it is also a minimum standard which video cards must abide by in order to be DX 10 compatible, therego all DX 10 games should be able to handle this given the developer puts it all in since all DX 10 hardware is capable of using it.

Oh and FYI: I was pretty certain you were exaggerating, I decided to play it safe and mention it just in case you weren't exaggerating

[QUOTE="mikemil828"]

[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]
And that would be a techdemo taking advantage of a certain hardware setup, not an actual game. I'm not really disputing that a kickass PC can do it, I'm questioning whether a game actually will. Point being that otherwise it doesn't really matter. Currently Crysis is the most graphically advanced PC game and I don't see it having such ridiculous textures applied everywhere.

And as you should've been able to tell by my post; I agree with that point. Consoles are forever limited by their RAM.

Oh and FYI: I was exaggerating.
InsaneBasura

Wrong, it is a techdemo taking advantage of Direct X 10 offers rather than merely a certain hardware setup, there is nothing in this tech demo that all DX 10 cards shouldn't at least be able to do, one thing I notice that people seem to forget is that DX 10 isn't merely a Graphics API, it is also a minimum standard which video cards must abide by in order to be DX 10 compatible, therego all DX 10 games should be able to handle this given the developer puts it all in since all DX 10 hardware is capable of using it.

Oh and FYI: I was pretty certain you were exaggerating, I decided to play it safe and mention it just in case you weren't exaggerating

So pretty much your biggest argument is time, developers need time to take advantage of DX 10 and hardware need to be developed for it, right? Then isn't it safe to say that eventually there will be a realthingamajig game that will use everything in this demo? Never say never, pplz. It's not like there aren't obvious advantages to geometry shaders, gpu side physics, and instancing so that developers would never bother to use them, anyway for Crysis not using the texture detail of 'that turd'  (which is actually simply wet rock zoomed in REALLY close), it's probably more that they simply didn't bother implementing it rather than it being impossible to do so, we've seen that mods can drastically change texture quality, so why couldn't a mod at that level of detail in Crysis? It's not like Crysis is a console game without the ability for mods right?

As for the techdemo itself not actually having that level of texture detail, I can say for certain that it pretty much does, how do I know? Because I actually HAVE the demo on my computer, that other screenshot was actually taken on my computer, that wet rock picture was a screenshot from some guy at Guru3d

Here, have a couple extra pictures

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/mikemil828/untitled2jx6.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/mikemil828/untitled3ze3.jpg

Oh and FYI: Another neat thing is that everything you see here is procedurally generated, which means the Textures and the Rock formations you see here was made by the gpu itself, neat huh?