Paramount and Dreamworks drop Blu Ray support ....

[QUOTE="JDW_games"]This is bad news for Sony and PS3 ... http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/media/article2295565.ece[/QUOTE]

Meh, this is a lot more interesting than the one-sided Beta/VHS war twenty or so years ago- I thought Blu-Ray was winning. I have an Xbox 360, though, so I'm not complaining.

This just shows that people (including Gamespot) that are basically declaring a "winner" this generation, aren't looking at all the facts, like HD-DVDs dominace in Europe or that fact that the attach rate of HD-DVD is insanely higher. That being said, we are starting to see the results.

My opinion: There will be no winner, as Sony and Toshiba/Microsoft have too much money invested to just drop out. Just like the PS3/360 debate, neither will "lose" as they would never just stop producing games and call it quits.

Either way, this is huge for HD-DVD

I still think blu-ray should win,even though im a 360 supporter.

For movies: Hddvd

for games: bluray

Btw...WHAT A TWIST!!

This just shows that people (including Gamespot) that are basically declaring a "winner" this generation, aren't looking at all the facts, like HD-DVDs dominace in Europe or that fact that the attach rate of HD-DVD is insanely higher. That being said, we are starting to see the results.

My opinion: There will be no winner, as Sony and Toshiba/Microsoft have too much money invested to just drop out. Just like the PS3/360 debate, neither will "lose" as they would never just stop producing games and call it quits.

Either way, this is huge for HD-DVD

seabiscuit8686

I will celebrate by purchasing a couple of hd-dvd movies today...yay.

M$'s Deep Pockets strikes again!.... Meh if you can't beat 'em ... throw cash at the problem and sign exclusivity deals. Hangman550

Just so you all know, Paramount and Dreamworks are brother sister distributors now a days and the most unsuccessful paring in teh business right now. Paramount 2 years ago was in deep trouble due to failures such as Manchurian candidate and stepford wives and lately, Stardust, Hot ROd and MI:3 have done them no better. They have ranked last amongst major distributors (Fox, WB, Universal and Sony) the past 8 years straight.

Source: www.boxofficemojo.com if you care to look it up.

who cares

blu ray and HD-DVD are both crap and are used by cows and leemings as some kind of defining factor

newsflash folks, the Wii is pwning them both and it doesn't even have DVD playback

someone needs to show paramount some sales charts.

who cares

blu ray and HD-DVD are both crap and are used by cows and leemings as some kind of defining factor

newsflash folks, the Wii is pwning them both and it doesn't even have DVD playback

bulletmath

Actually this post has nothing to do with the wii... heck i daresay even any of the consoles... this belongs in 'format wars'

M$'s Deep Pockets strikes again!.... Meh if you can't beat 'em ... throw cash at the problem and sign exclusivity deals. Hangman550

Now there is a truly uninformed poster.

MS only went with HD-DVD to stick it to Sony...they could care less which format wins in the end. They would make exactly the same amount of money if they offered a Blu-ray addon for the 360. It simply doesn't mater to MS.

BluRay is winning, and will keep winning. It still has the most support, and anyway Transformers was a critical peice of ****, so I really don't care about losing that. Also, if Paramount hate money so much, then that's their problem! I'll just watch it on plain old DVD, if I want, it isn't so horrible!

And why is this thread still open when other identical ones have been closed before this one came along?

This is honestly really bad news for Sony. Although this makes it easier for me to decide on which HD DVD player to buy. I'm gonna get a HD-DVD player I suppose. JDW_games

I guess you skipped this part: "Blu-ray still leads HD-DVD in terms of Hollywood support, having won the exclusive backing of five studios: Sony, Walt Disney, Twentieth Century Fox, Lions Gate Entertainment and MGM." and just btw I think that Blockbuster is Blu-ray exclusive as well as the PS3 being largely responsible for boosting Blu-ray to where it is, there still is no clear cut winner.

Posted August 20, 2007 by Josh

Despite selling more movies on the Blu-ray format, Paramount has announced today that they will begin supporting HD DVD exclusively. This move, rumored to be driven by a $150M exclusivity deal with the HD DVD group, comes after Paramount began favoring Blu-ray releases with higher quality video encodings and more HD features. The deal covers all of Paramount's properties excluding those directed by Steven Spielberg.

The move will inevitably lengthen a format war which should never have been. Consumers will unfortunately suffer the most, as they will be forced to support a format which is being supported by corporations instead of consumers. No word was given as to how long the exclusivity agreement is for, but rumors indicate through 2008.

High definition enthusiasts can now only hope that a DVD-A/SACD situation hasn't been initiated by this decision.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=412

Just so you all know, Paramount and Dreamworks are brother sister distributors now a days and the most unsuccessful paring in teh business right now. Paramount 2 years ago was in deep trouble due to failures such as Manchurian candidate and stepford wives and lately, Stardust, Hot ROd and MI:3 have done them no better. They have ranked last amongst major distributors (Fox, WB, Universal and Sony) the past 8 years straight.

Source: www.boxofficemojo.com if you care to look it up.

ISA_Scum

M$'s Deep Pockets strikes again!.... Meh if you can't beat 'em ... throw cash at the problem and sign exclusivity deals. Hangman550

What does this have to do with Microsoft? :? They dont make any money out of HD-DVD sales. :|

Just so you all know, Paramount and Dreamworks are brother sister distributors now a days and the most unsuccessful paring in teh business right now. Paramount 2 years ago was in deep trouble due to failures such as Manchurian candidate and stepford wives and lately, Stardust, Hot ROd and MI:3 have done them no better. They have ranked last amongst major distributors (Fox, WB, Universal and Sony) the past 8 years straight.

Source: www.boxofficemojo.com if you care to look it up.

ISA_Scum

To be honest, neither are winning. It's great to talk about x studio dropping blu-ray, or y supporting HD-DVD, or one outselling the other.... but the actual fact here is that neither are doing very well at all. Both are huge failures. People simply dont want it. It's not like VHS/betamax or DVD where they were being bought in the millions by consumers hungry for home video, and then higher-quality home video. This time around, people just aren't interested.Ninja-Vox

True enough;

Casino royal 1st month sales were 30k on Blu-ray and 3.6 million on DVD

Likewise "300" sold 300k combined on both formats but 9.5 million on DVD.

DVD is not going away like VHS did...it's just not the same situation.

[QUOTE="ISA_Scum"]

Just so you all know, Paramount and Dreamworks are brother sister distributors now a days and the most unsuccessful paring in teh business right now. Paramount 2 years ago was in deep trouble due to failures such as Manchurian candidate and stepford wives and lately, Stardust, Hot ROd and MI:3 have done them no better. They have ranked last amongst major distributors (Fox, WB, Universal and Sony) the past 8 years straight.

Source: www.boxofficemojo.com if you care to look it up.

Danthegamingman

Maybe not, since Spielberg was involved.

Actually this post has nothing to do with the wii... heck i daresay even any of the consoles... this belongs in 'format wars'

Hangman550

Exactly. Some random movie studio dropping support for some obscure movie format has no bearing on gaming . Besides both Blu Ray and HD-DVD are doomed to failure, anyone with a brain could have told you that before they were relased

[QUOTE="Hangman550"]M$'s Deep Pockets strikes again!.... Meh if you can't beat 'em ... throw cash at the problem and sign exclusivity deals. Ninja-Vox

What does this have to do with Microsoft? :? They dont make any money out of HD-DVD sales. :|

This just shows that people (including Gamespot) that are basically declaring a "winner" this generation, aren't looking at all the facts, like HD-DVDs dominace in Europe or that fact that the attach rate of HD-DVD is insanely higher. That being said, we are starting to see the results.

My opinion: There will be no winner, as Sony and Toshiba/Microsoft have too much money invested to just drop out. Just like the PS3/360 debate, neither will "lose" as they would never just stop producing games and call it quits.

Either way, this is huge for HD-DVD

seabiscuit8686

btw theEurope thing is Disputed http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/16/blu-ray-actually-we-are-the-top-in-european-sales/

and HD DVD is almost non existant in other markets

well alot more people have HD-DVD than Blu-Ray snakefist5000

I think you need to double check your facts.

If you combine the sale of BR players as well as PS3, there are more BR players in homes than HD-DVD players.

If you look at studio support, until this announcement, BR had exclusive support from 5 of the biggest studios around while HD-DVD only had exclusive support from 1 studio.

If you look at movie releases, due to the level of exclusive BR support, more BR titles come out every single week than HD-DVD titles which means more people are likely to be interested in BR.

If you look at customer support, not only do most stores have more BR available for customers than HD-DVD, AND not only are there more BR players sold than HD-DVD (if you include PS3)...but Blockbuster has announced they are exclusively supporting BR at their stores because %80 of HD rentals came from BR while only %20 came from HD-DVD rentals.

Finally, if you look at the very press release that was linked, it clearly states that Paramount and Dreamworks made this move "despite higher BR sales". They were paid 150 million for an exclusivity contract.

Basically, I don't see where you could possibly get the idea that more people have HD-DVD than BR. Seems all facts prove the exact opposite. So either you are listening to rumours and confusing them for facts...or you are Sony hater and just want to believe HD-DVD is winning.

Man that is huge. This is the best news HD DVD has received in a long time, and it's very meaningful.thinicer

You are right, it is meaningfull but not for the reasons you THINK. It's meaningful because it shows that HD-DVD has to pay people to support them. It's meaningfull because it says that movie studios are seeing better sales for BR and will only switch allegiance if they are paid millions to do so.