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#1 jimmygrace
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Pariah - sucked

Killzone - mediocre

Resistance - just wasn't good enough

PDZ - basicially a pile of crap

Care to add to the list?

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#2 LastSamurai14
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What the hell is pariah? And resistance/PDZ were never called halo killers.....why would microsoft say their own game (PDZ) killed their best seller?
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#3 foxhound_fox
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What exactly is a Halo killer? Something that kills it in terms of sales and hype or depth and quality?
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#4 ParadiddleFill
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Pariah - sucked

Killzone - mediocre

Resistance - just wasn't good enough

PDZ - basicially a pile of crap

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jimmygrace

Gears of war- some will disagree but i enjoyed halo2 single player and online much better then gears of war

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#5 CaptainUber
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Ummmm, half of those were on the Xbox, and I actually enjoyed PDZ and the first Killzone.
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#6 plourdo
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if pdz was suppose to be a halo killer than GeoW is a halo killer no doubt

it should be a gears killer now even though its a tactical shooter

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#7 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jimmygrace"]

Pariah - sucked

Killzone - mediocre

Resistance - just wasn't good enough

PDZ - basicially a pile of crap

Care to add to the list?

ParadiddleFill

Gears of war- some will disagree but i enjoyed halo2 single player and online much better then gears of war

i agree 100% gears is no Halo. Gears is AAA. but Halo is better IMO.
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#8 jimmygrace
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[QUOTE="jimmygrace"]

Pariah - sucked

Killzone - mediocre

Resistance - just wasn't good enough

PDZ - basicially a pile of crap

Care to add to the list?

ParadiddleFill

Gears of war- some will disagree but i enjoyed halo2 single player and online much better then gears of war

Yeah Gears of War is good but it was way overhyped.It just doesn't have the depth of other games.

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#9 TheDarkDisciple
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What exactly is a Halo killer? Something that kills it in terms of sales and hype or depth and quality?foxhound_fox

Who knows, people just use the term "halo killer" because they jealously wish they had Halo on their console, but they know it can't happen so they hype other games to pretend they are as good.

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#10 Nokia_N95
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better mutiplayer

BF2

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vegas

better singleplayer?

HL2

halo was dead before it even came out... why did it flop on PC? halo2 was only so popular because it was the only good FPS xbox had

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#11 jimmygrace
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]What exactly is a Halo killer? Something that kills it in terms of sales and hype or depth and quality?TheDarkDisciple

Who knows, people just use the term "halo killer" because they jealously wish they had Halo on their console, but they know it can't happen so they hype other games to pretend they are as good.

Yeah thats basicially it.Thats why Halo is the game they want killed.

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#12 Spartan070
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PDZ was never supposed to be a Halo killer, not since MS bought Rare.
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#13 jimmygrace
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better mutiplayer

BF2

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vegas

better singleplayer?

HL2

halo was dead before it even came out... why did it flop on PC? halo2 was only so popular because it was the only good FPS xbox had

Nokia_N95

Xbox had Rainbow Six 3, Ghost Recon 2, FCI, COD2, BF2: MC, and alot of others yet Halo 2 still dominated online.Don't give me that crap.

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#14 Nokia_N95
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[QUOTE="Nokia_N95"]

better mutiplayer

BF2

CSS

vegas

better singleplayer?

HL2

halo was dead before it even came out... why did it flop on PC? halo2 was only so popular because it was the only good FPS xbox had

jimmygrace

Xbox had Rainbow Six 3, Ghost Recon 2, FCI, COD2, BF2: MC, and alot of others yet Halo 2 still dominated online.Don't give me that crap.

im just saying if u had the library of games that PC has, you would see what a weak arcade game halo1/2/3 are. halo will never do good on PC. and imagine halo was never made... what would the lemmings be hyping? the next rainbow six game? :lol:

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#15 Nokia_N95
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oh and maybe cause all those xbox games took some type of aiming skills... where the kids like halo2 so much cause of the autoaim
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oh and maybe cause all those xbox games took some type of aiming skills... where the kids like halo2 so much cause of the autoaimNokia_N95

But before this you said Xbox had no other good FPS? Your showing your fanboyism.

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[QUOTE="jimmygrace"][QUOTE="Nokia_N95"]

better mutiplayer

BF2

CSS

vegas

better singleplayer?

HL2

halo was dead before it even came out... why did it flop on PC? halo2 was only so popular because it was the only good FPS xbox had

Nokia_N95

Xbox had Rainbow Six 3, Ghost Recon 2, FCI, COD2, BF2: MC, and alot of others yet Halo 2 still dominated online.Don't give me that crap.

im just saying if u had the library of games that PC has, you would see what a weak arcade game halo1/2/3 are. halo will never do good on PC. and imagine halo was never made... what would the lemmings be hyping? the next rainbow six game? :lol:

Probably played more PC FPSs than you ever will.

Hardly any touch Halo. Sorry bud.

But add Breed to the list as well guys.

Bet Nokia hasn't heard of that title.

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#18 threegodhalo
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Halo is the higest scoring FPS on Gamespot.

Halo > HL, HL2, UT, UT2k4, Far Cry, etc...

Fanboys need to admit that Bungie is the best company for making FPS.

They inovate the industry and make amazing games.

/thread

SW needs to get rid of fanboys!

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#19 jimmygrace
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Halo is the higest scoring FPS on Gamespot.

Halo > HL, HL2, UT, UT2k4, Far Cry, etc...

Fanboys need to admit that Bungie is the best company for making FPS.

They inovate the industry and make amazing games.

/thread

SW needs to get rid of fanboys!

threegodhalo

Actually PD N64 was but I think you made your point.

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#20 Nokia_N95
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Halo is the higest scoring FPS on Gamespot.

Halo > HL, HL2, UT, UT2k4, Far Cry, etc...

Fanboys need to admit that Bungie is the best company for making FPS.

They inovate the industry and make amazing games.

/thread

SW needs to get rid of fanboys!

threegodhalo

so because it has a higher score means its the best game out there? i should put u in my sig with the other lemming

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#21 Nokia_N95
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[QUOTE="Nokia_N95"]oh and maybe cause all those xbox games took some type of aiming skills... where the kids like halo2 so much cause of the autoaimjimmygrace

But before this you said Xbox had no other good FPS? Your showing your fanboyism.

and looking at all ur past SW posts... i can see ur a halo fanboy

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#22 Tuxified
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Halo is the higest scoring FPS on Gamespot.

Halo > HL, HL2, UT, UT2k4, Far Cry, etc...

Fanboys need to admit that Bungie is the best company for making FPS.

They inovate the industry and make amazing games.

/thread

SW needs to get rid of fanboys!

threegodhalo

This post is hilarious hahahahahaha

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#23 jimmygrace
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[QUOTE="threegodhalo"]

Halo is the higest scoring FPS on Gamespot.

Halo > HL, HL2, UT, UT2k4, Far Cry, etc...

Fanboys need to admit that Bungie is the best company for making FPS.

They inovate the industry and make amazing games.

/thread

SW needs to get rid of fanboys!

Nokia_N95

so because it has a higher score means its the best game out there? i should put u in my sig with the other lemming

What do you think you sound like? You seem like a PC fanboy to me.

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#24 Ibacai
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Halo is the higest scoring FPS on Gamespot.

Halo > HL, HL2, UT, UT2k4, Far Cry, etc...

Fanboys need to admit that Bungie is the best company for making FPS.

They inovate the industry and make amazing games.

/thread

SW needs to get rid of fanboys!

threegodhalo
Pot, meet kettle. Really, you should also realize that all PC fps are rated according to PC standards. Which are and were much higher then Xbox standards. And don't get me started on anything Halo "innovated" when it was actually just compilation and polish.
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#25 Vfanek
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Halo is the higest scoring FPS on Gamespot.

Halo > HL, HL2, UT, UT2k4, Far Cry, etc...

Fanboys need to admit that Bungie is the best company for making FPS.

They inovate the industry and make amazing games.

/thread

SW needs to get rid of fanboys!

threegodhalo

It's up to personal preference. And Halo for PC is actually a disaster, haven't tried the second one, but the first was just so very mediocre.

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#26 jimmygrace
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[QUOTE="jimmygrace"]

[QUOTE="Nokia_N95"]oh and maybe cause all those xbox games took some type of aiming skills... where the kids like halo2 so much cause of the autoaimNokia_N95

But before this you said Xbox had no other good FPS? Your showing your fanboyism.

and looking at all ur past SW posts... i can see ur a halo fanboy

Yes I am but I don't bash other games like you do.I don't go around saying Half-Life 2 or Battlefield 2 is garbage do I? You need to except the fact Halo is a great franchise, a top notch FPS, thats why it was released to rave reviews and sold aton of copies.Thats why people still play it online til this day.

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#27 Ragashahs
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here's my question why does nearly every FPS have to be graded by halo? Halo is a very much overhyped 2 games. CE was great and probably still one of the best games ever, but halo 2 was far from CE it was an AAA game but it's like GeOW great game but nothing special. the only reason halo is hyped was becuase of CE not 2.
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here's my question why does nearly every FPS have to be graded by halo? Halo is a very much overhyped 2 games. CE was great and probably still one of the best games ever, but halo 2 was far from CE it was an AAA game but it's like GeOW great game but nothing special. the only reason halo is hyped was becuase of CE not 2.Ragashahs

Yeah, it's Halo CE that everything's graded by.

Halo 2 is the fantastic, but not so legendary sequel.

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here's my question why does nearly every FPS have to be graded by halo? Halo is a very much overhyped 2 games. CE was great and probably still one of the best games ever, but halo 2 was far from CE it was an AAA game but it's like GeOW great game but nothing special. the only reason halo is hyped was becuase of CE not 2.Ragashahs

Apparently it was the best since Halo is always the first FPS mentioned.

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#30 tag_001
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[QUOTE="Nokia_N95"]

better mutiplayer

BF2

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vegas

better singleplayer?

HL2

halo was dead before it even came out... why did it flop on PC? halo2 was only so popular because it was the only good FPS xbox had

jimmygrace

Xbox had Rainbow Six 3, Ghost Recon 2, FCI, COD2, BF2: MC, and alot of others yet Halo 2 still dominated online.Don't give me that crap.

because more pople playing it means better quality, if that was the case then Madden would be the greatest game ever.

Play BF2 with a good squad, comeback and try to tell me Halo 2 online is better/deeper. Halo 2 while extremly fun is way too basic to be considered better than games like BF2, UT etc... online.

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#31 smokeydabear076
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Was PDZ really supposed to be a Halo killer?
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#32 jimmygrace
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[QUOTE="jimmygrace"][QUOTE="Nokia_N95"]

better mutiplayer

BF2

CSS

vegas

better singleplayer?

HL2

halo was dead before it even came out... why did it flop on PC? halo2 was only so popular because it was the only good FPS xbox had

tag_001

Xbox had Rainbow Six 3, Ghost Recon 2, FCI, COD2, BF2: MC, and alot of others yet Halo 2 still dominated online.Don't give me that crap.

because more pople playing it means better quality, if that was the case then Madden would be the greatest game ever.

Play BF2 with a good squad, comeback and try to tell me Halo 2 online is better/deeper. Halo 2 while extremly fun is way too basic to be considered better than games like BF2, UT etc... online.

I have played BF2 and yes I like Halo 2 better.Now tell me I'm wrong for liking Halo 2 more.Its all opinion not fact.

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because more pople playing it means better quality, if that was the case then Madden would be the greatest game ever.

Play BF2 with a good squad, comeback and try to tell me Halo 2 online is better/deeper. Halo 2 while extremly fun is way too basic to be considered better than games like BF2, UT etc... online.

tag_001

Got BF2 mate. Played LAN more than online though.

They're both totally different games, so why compare them.

Also, if heaps of people are playing it 3 years after the game was released, isn't that the sign of a good game? That's the argument hermits use for Counter Strike...

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#34 Nokia_N95
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[QUOTE="Nokia_N95"][QUOTE="jimmygrace"]

[QUOTE="Nokia_N95"]oh and maybe cause all those xbox games took some type of aiming skills... where the kids like halo2 so much cause of the autoaimjimmygrace

But before this you said Xbox had no other good FPS? Your showing your fanboyism.

and looking at all ur past SW posts... i can see ur a halo fanboy

Yes I am but I don't bash other games like you do.I don't go around saying Half-Life 2 or Battlefield 2 is garbage do I? You need to except the fact Halo is a great franchise, a top notch FPS, thats why it was released to rave reviews and sold aton of copies.Thats why people still play it online til this day.

like i said, halo2 was the best game xbox had... why didnt it sell "a ton of copies" on pc? there was no competition for halo2, 4 years ago on consoles... now that halo3s coming, and games like KZ2 and COD4 are here, people should see how bad of a run and gun autoaim game halo3 is... any real gamer would choose cod4 over halo3

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#35 tag_001
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[QUOTE="tag_001"]because more pople playing it means better quality, if that was the case then Madden would be the greatest game ever.

Play BF2 with a good squad, comeback and try to tell me Halo 2 online is better/deeper. Halo 2 while extremly fun is way too basic to be considered better than games like BF2, UT etc... online.

FrozenLiquid

Got BF2 mate. Played LAN more than online though.

They're both totally different games, so why compare them.

Also, if heaps of people are playing it 3 years after the game was released, isn't that the sign of a good game? That's the argument hermits use for Counter Strike...

Halo 2 is more than a good game it's a great game, just not the greatest like alot of people seem to beleive it is. It's almost like if most people discovered what online FPS were like when Halo 2 came out.

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#36 jimmygrace
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Yeah because you don't like Halo people who do like it are now not "real gamers" lol at your blind fanboyism.
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#38 Ragashahs
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[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]here's my question why does nearly every FPS have to be graded by halo? Halo is a very much overhyped 2 games. CE was great and probably still one of the best games ever, but halo 2 was far from CE it was an AAA game but it's like GeOW great game but nothing special. the only reason halo is hyped was becuase of CE not 2.jimmygrace

Apparently it was the best since Halo is always the first FPS mentioned.

but thats my point they made one amazing game(CE) and 2 while good not a great followup to CE. KZ is always going to be have to compared to the halo seris off the fact that so far there was one amazing game and one good game. not sure about you guys but their are alot of series that have one amazing game and then some that aren't that great and they still don't get the amount of hype that halo get. Half life 1 was an amazing innovative FPS's just like CE and like it halo HL2 although was a solid game by itself pales in comparison to the original. how come where aren't using HL as a comparsion? my point is that no game should have to live up to another game unless is been proven to be a revolutionary franchise time and time again(which don't exist). Halo CE goes up their with the top FPS's ever made, however if you talk about the greatest FPS's seris? i can't really put halo their after haveing CE and then 2
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#39 Nokia_N95
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[QUOTE="tag_001"][QUOTE="jimmygrace"][QUOTE="Nokia_N95"]

better mutiplayer

BF2

CSS

vegas

better singleplayer?

HL2

halo was dead before it even came out... why did it flop on PC? halo2 was only so popular because it was the only good FPS xbox had

jimmygrace

Xbox had Rainbow Six 3, Ghost Recon 2, FCI, COD2, BF2: MC, and alot of others yet Halo 2 still dominated online.Don't give me that crap.

because more pople playing it means better quality, if that was the case then Madden would be the greatest game ever.

Play BF2 with a good squad, comeback and try to tell me Halo 2 online is better/deeper. Halo 2 while extremly fun is way too basic to be considered better than games like BF2, UT etc... online.

I have played BF2 and yes I like Halo 2 better.Now tell me I'm wrong for liking Halo 2 more.Its all opinion not fact.

if its all opinion why make a thread like this? if someone gives a game they feel is better than halo...you argue with him and say its not, so it seems like u want to use your fanboy facts to prove them wrong

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#40 jimmygrace
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Yeah because your the one who started it.Your the one who said any real gamer would prefer COD4 over Halo 3, are they even out yet? NO!
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#41 Game13a13y
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personally, i think Counterstrike will "kill" Halo franchise anyday.

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#42 FrozenLiquid
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Halo 2 is more than a good game it's a great game, just not the greatest like alot of people seem to beleive it is. It's almost like if most people discovered what online FPS were like when Halo 2 came out.

tag_001

A fair lot of people did.

I found joy in FPSs when Halo came out. I never got into Doom or CS like my friends did, but Halo just showed me how enjoyable FPSscould be. After that, I went back and enjoyed the classics in all their glory.

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#43 jimmygrace
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personally, i think Counterstrike will "kill" Halo franchise anyday.

Game13a13y

Yeah Counter-Strike is always fun.

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#44 dracolich666
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Not for a while, and even then halo is such a great game, this will defently top the first. And graphics are amazing.

[img][http://media.teamxbox.com/games/ss/1353/full-res/1184143847.jpg[/img]

Amazing!!!!

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Halo 2 is more than a good game it's a great game, just not the greatest like alot of people seem to beleive it is. It's almost like if most people discovered what online FPS were like when Halo 2 came out.

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A fair lot of people did.

I found joy in FPSs when Halo came out. I never got into Doom or CS like my friends did, but Halo just showed me how enjoyable FPSscould be. After that, I went back and enjoyed the classics in all their glory.

That's because Halo is an "accessible" FPS(this is why it's seen as a casual game by many), pretty much everyone can jump into Halo/2 and be at least decent and have a good amount of fun. People who were not really FPS fans became FPS fans, the problem is they compare everything to Halo and if it's not as easy to pick up it automatically sucks. Personally I love when a game requires a certain amount time to really master or that it involves great teamwork/strategy. Halo 2's gameplay(online) is fairly basic(while extremly fun) compared to games like BF2, UT2K4 etc... and there's no way to deny it. This is why I think these games in particular are better than Halo already.

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#46 waynehead895
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I didn't know Pariah was a Halo Killer but yeah it did suck.
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#47 tonythestudent
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Sales =/= Gameplay
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#48 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="tag_001"]

Halo 2 is more than a good game it's a great game, just not the greatest like alot of people seem to beleive it is. It's almost like if most people discovered what online FPS were like when Halo 2 came out.

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A fair lot of people did.

I found joy in FPSs when Halo came out. I never got into Doom or CS like my friends did, but Halo just showed me how enjoyable FPSscould be. After that, I went back and enjoyed the classics in all their glory.

That's because Halo is an "accessible" FPS(this is why it's seen as a casual game by many), pretty much everyone can jump into Halo/2 and be at least decent and have a good amount of fun. People who were not really FPS fans became FPS fans, the problem is they compare everything to Halo and if it's not as easy to pick up it automatically sucks. Personally I love when a game requires a certain amount time to really master or that it involves great teamwork/strategy. Halo 2's gameplay(online) is fairly basic(while extremly fun) compared to games like BF2, UT2K4 etc... and there's no way to deny it. This is why I think these games in particular are better than Halo already.

Wrong.

If you played the Halo 3 Beta, you would know it requires skill.

Halo was quite possibly the first FPS to appeal to gamers outside the target demographic. It's not that it's easily accessible, or that it's much more simple than most game. The truth is it is not. Just because the Matrix is one of the most popular sci fi films of all time, does it make it any more worse than "hardcore" Ghost in the Shell, or Equilibrium? Of course not, and most people would say otherwise.

Honestly on Heroic/Legendary I find Halo just as difficult as Half Life on hard. And Halo 2's multi player requires skill. I use to say otherwise (and I've started saying so again since the Beta), but when a guy asked me to havematch with him, he told me all the tactics he was using and he completely owned me. But those tactics have gone down the drain since Halo 3 is much more akin to Halo 1's style of play.

I own and cherish both BF2 and UT2k4, but to say Halo is basic simply because it's a console game at heart is just pathetic.

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#49 J1M-e
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lol i re-gifted pariah last weeek :P