Patcher Says Sony Is Ripping Ppl Off

Nah, they aren't ripping people off with overpriced hardware. Only MS does that.

if anything that just supports his point that sony is ripping people off

It's obvious the production costs of the PSP Go are much lowerthan that of the 3000 model. He's just stating the obvious.

PS3 not so much. PSP Go? Definitly. Having a laugh at the pricing in the UK.

It's true. Sony has always ripped people off. 599 PS3. 249 PSP Go. etc etc

I think that much is obvious. Of course, though, you could just not buy it, but Sony knows their addicted fans will need it, thus they're forced (it may not seem that way, but when one's addicted, it's like someone holding a gun to your head) to pay an insanely high price for a unit that has much cheaper production costs, as the UMD drive and cost of UMD disc production is more expensive than the storage.

patcher is just like a dumb blonde, always trying to find a value in himself.therealnerdd

Dude, how is sony not ripping people off if they are making a handheld console which has a cheaper production cost then the psp 300 and sell it for $110 more. I hate it when a person calls another person wrong when that person actually states the truth.

Well, I for one, am shocked that this is happening in the gaming industry >.>

PS3 not so much. PSP Go? Definitly. Having a laugh at the pricing in the UK.

CreepyBacon

Yeah, the whole pricing for it in Europe in general is a disgrace. I genuinely hope that it backfires on them and that nobody buys it, forcing them to cut the price.

[QUOTE="therealnerdd"]patcher is just like a dumb blonde, always trying to find a value in himself.hysam20241

Dude, how is sony not ripping people off if they are making a handheld console which has a cheaper production cost then the psp 300 and sell it for $110 more. I hate it when a person calls another person wrong when that person actually states the truth.

[QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]

PS3 not so much. PSP Go? Definitly. Having a laugh at the pricing in the UK.

Yeah, the whole pricing for it in Europe in general is a disgrace. I genuinely hope that it backfires on them and that nobody buys it, forcing them to cut the price.

I don't think people seem to understand it... What I believe is that Sony is just using PSP GO as an experiment for all the people who go by Digital Distribution.

The reason why they jacked up the price is cause their main focus is still on the psp 3000 while the psp go earns them the extra cash and see how successful it does with the digital distribution game sales. Sorda like an experiment to see what the people lean more towards.

But ofcourse, that's just my take on it, could be wrong.

OUT!

I completely agree with Sony ripping people off for the PSP Go! Seriously, anyone with common sense can see that it's cheaper to produce a Go! than a 3000, and yet it costs $80 more? That's really good......

Sony is just going to milk the first wave that buy it... Then drop the price a little, then milk that wave. Untill it gets around 3000 price.

You gotta think... You can get a 16 GB pro duo mark 2 for $70. $170 + $70 = $240... Then minus what ever the UMD drive costs. So yeah they are making pretty good money on it.

well it is a rip off since its anew model which should cost less

Sony is just going to milk the first wave that buy it... Then drop the price a little, then milk that wave. Untill it gets around 3000 price.

You gotta think... You can get a 16 GB pro duo mark 2 for $70. $170 + $70 = $240... Then minus what ever the UMD drive costs. So yeah they are making pretty good money on it.

Truth_Hurts_U

Yeah, but they aren't just shoving a pro duo into the system, so you can't account for manufacturing costs of individual sticks with plastic around them, or the shipping costs for the memory stick, or the advertising. Flash memory is cheap to make especially if it's built in.

Then, take out the UMD drive costs, and lower the cost even more since the screen size is getting smaller. Then take out a little of the cost of materials since there's obviously less stuff inside of it to reduce the size.

The PSP Go! doesn't cost near enough to produce to warrant a $250 price tag.

Yeah, but they aren't just shoving a pro duo into the system, so you can't account for manufacturing costs of individual sticks with plastic around them, or the shipping costs for the memory stick, or the advertising. Flash memory is cheap to make especially if it's built in.

Then, take out the UMD drive costs, and lower the cost even more since the screen size is getting smaller. Then take out a little of the cost of materials since there's obviously less stuff inside of it to reduce the size.

The PSP Go! doesn't cost near enough to produce to warrant a $250 price tag.

Mr_Nordquist

Yep... Sony was probably thinking lets add the cost of a 16 GB memory stick onto the PSP 3000 price tag and call it a day.

Anyone with a working brain could see that Sony was ripping people off with the PSP Go's incredibly high $250 price point considering that the only new features added are the built in storage and bluetooth while at the same time, it removes the UMD drive, which was probably one of the most expensive system components of the older PSPs.

I think Patcher is an absolute ass bag so I don't pay any attention to what he says. Theres a quite a few people on SW who would do a better job than him. How hes managed to somehow wangle his way to sort of being the predictor (and be wrong almost all of the time) for the industry is beyond me.blue_hazy_basic

thats fine, but what do his predictions have to do with him just stating a fact, as is the case in this instance?

Nah, they aren't ripping people off with overpriced hardware. Only MS does that.

heretrix

I think Patcher is an absolute ass bag so I don't pay any attention to what he says. Theres a quite a few people on SW who would do a better job than him. How hes managed to somehow wangle his way to sort of being the predictor (and be wrong almost all of the time) for the industry is beyond me.blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]I think Patcher is an absolute ass bag so I don't pay any attention to what he says. Theres a quite a few people on SW who would do a better job than him. How hes managed to somehow wangle his way to sort of being the predictor (and be wrong almost all of the time) for the industry is beyond me.ogvampire

thats fine, but what do his predictions have to do with him just stating a fact, as is the case in this instance?

The PSP Go! IS a ripoff.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

Nah, they aren't ripping people off with overpriced hardware. Only MS does that.

Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]I think Patcher is an absolute ass bag so I don't pay any attention to what he says. Theres a quite a few people on SW who would do a better job than him. How hes managed to somehow wangle his way to sort of being the predictor (and be wrong almost all of the time) for the industry is beyond me.blue_hazy_basic

thats fine, but what do his predictions have to do with him just stating a fact, as is the case in this instance?

oh. lol! fair enough

what about the wii / Gamcube slim?

Cant post via PS3 browser but Joystiq has the info. he pointed out that PSPGo cost Sony much less than 3000 Personally i rather buy a $139 used PSP 2000(old one broke) then maybe a 4 8 16GB memory stick.PSP107

If you think you're getting ripped just stick to the older PSPs. They will continue to sell both...

what about the wii / Gamcube slim?

DontBeHatin1983

What do you mean by that (Wii/Gamecube Slim)? Do you actually suggest that Wii is rip-off?

It sure cost $250 US, but according to the law of supply and demand, the price is quite close to equilibrium.The demand for Wiii was higher than X360 and PS3 so far, that's why Wii price haven't change. Why should the Wii lower its priceif they keep selling it more than PS3 and X360 combined.

PSP Go, on the other hand, just want to price PSP Go in a premium price regardless of demand. Also, unlike the Wii from Gamecube, PSP Go is quite an inferior compare to PSP 3000 with a price difference of at least $80.

Wii and Gamecube are not even comparable to each as both console are in different gen and different functions. You can say Wii is an upgrade to gamecube, but exactly the same thing can be saidon PS2 to PS3 or XBox to X360 IMHO.

I think Patcher is an absolute ass bag so I don't pay any attention to what he says. Theres a quite a few people on SW who would do a better job than him. How hes managed to somehow wangle his way to sort of being the predictor (and be wrong almost all of the time) for the industry is beyond me.blue_hazy_basic

patcher, always says stuff...but I stopped listening along time ago since all he does is embarrass himself

What do you mean by that (Wii/Gamecube Slim)? Do you actually suggest that Wii is rip-off?

It sure cost $250 US, but according to the law of supply and demand, the price is quite close to equilibrium.The demand for Wiii was higher than X360 and PS3 so far, that's why Wii price haven't change. Why should the Wii lower its priceif they keep selling it more than PS3 and X360 combined.

Zaistev_basic

If someone is going to sit around and say that the PSP Go is a rip-off, then that same person should be saying that the Wii, the DS Lite, and the DSi are all rip-offs as well. Whether the demand is higher for a given product or not doesn't figure into it. And yes, I'm putting all of them into the same category because they're all recycled technology with extras thrown in, and they all made money per unit right off the bat. The PS3 and 360 both lost money on a per unit basis when they started selling.

And the bottom line is that it's all about making money. Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft are businesses, not charities. If they started losing money you'd have no games to play.

Why is it that everyone only looks at production costs? Research and development costs money too. If you don't want to pay for then it don't buy it.magnetar1

[QUOTE="Zaistev_basic"]

What do you mean by that (Wii/Gamecube Slim)? Do you actually suggest that Wii is rip-off?

It sure cost $250 US, but according to the law of supply and demand, the price is quite close to equilibrium.The demand for Wiii was higher than X360 and PS3 so far, that's why Wii price haven't change. Why should the Wii lower its priceif they keep selling it more than PS3 and X360 combined.

If someone is going to sit around and say that the PSP Go is a rip-off, then that same person should be saying that the Wii, the DS Lite, and the DSi are all rip-offs as well. Whether the demand is higher for a given product or not doesn't figure into it. And yes, I'm putting all of them into the same category because they're all recycled technology with extras thrown in, and they all made money per unit right off the bat. The PS3 and 360 both lost money on a per unit basis when they started selling.

And the bottom line is that it's all about making money. Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft are businesses, not charities. If they started losing money you'd have no games to play.

Which company doesn't rip people off?

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don't you think its possible that SCE is simply trying to inject some profitability into its product mix? if you don't like the price then don't buy it. if enough people don't buy it for this reason then they'll lower the price as much as they need to or if need be, stop production.

the fact that it doesn't have a umd drive is most damning to me. its too early to have a video gaming product like that that strictly uses digital distribution.

All companies are ripping people off. Look at Nintendo, the Wii hasn't received any kind of substantial price drop as it still sells so well, and is highly priced for the hardware. Microsoft as another example charges extortionate amounts for peripherals such as wireless adapters, proprietary HDD's etc. Sony charges substantial amounts on hardware.

Call me when a company is giving things away for free, or paying YOU to take them. Then i'll be surprised.

[QUOTE="magnetar1"]Why is it that everyone only looks at production costs? Research and development costs money too. If you don't want to pay for then it don't buy it.Zaistev_basic

how is the cost of r&d based off of the number of units produced. that is the definition of variable cost, correct?

you design something one time (then maybe revisions). why would this cost go up or down based off of volume?

[QUOTE="magnetar1"]Why is it that everyone only looks at production costs? Research and development costs money too. If you don't want to pay for then it don't buy it.Zaistev_basic