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#1  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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So I've gotten flack on this board a few times, not naming names of who....about how my performance in so and so game isn't as good another person.

I've seen others as well as I get hermit bashed by the mere mention that high performance hardware isn't always all it's cracked up to be....one way or the other.

But this person speaks the truth....PC gaming is inconsistent. Is it worth it? That's up to the individual. In the 20's I spent sometimes hours trying to get PC games to work. I will say that PC gaming since about 2009 has come leaps and bounds from where it was. For about 2009-now....I've had few issues compared to the past.

But those problems are still there and anyone can have them at any point in time.

Just find it quite humorous that 99% of the hermits here never bring this up. This guy is a PC gamer and he's stating these facts.

Contrary to popular belief I enjoy PC gaming.

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#2 Vaasman
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

Contrary to popular belief I enjoy PC gaming.

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What do you mean by "inconsistent"? Elaborate.

Well, i don't spend hours to run the games ....i mean you simply download it , install, then play :D

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Once most PC games support Xbox Achievements, I will replace Xbox One gaming with PC gaming for good. Optimization will never be as good on PC as it is on consoles. But I am trying my damndest to brute force my way to 1440p and good frame rates. 30fps sucks and gamers shouldn't have to settle for that. Jaggies and PS2 textures are another. And with VR coming real soon we are going to see the consoles fall behind even further. I will always love console gaming, but the power insuffiencies are starting to take their toll on us enthusiast.

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I remember on Windows 98 and XP would have issues, but its rare to get issues now.

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#6  Edited By ShadowDeathX
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It is a small con to all the perks that an open platform brings, in my opinion. You can't have all this openness without a level of inconsistency.

That being said, if you little tolerance for this and want everything to be sort of simple, just game on consoles.

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Wow technology can have problems...what a revelation

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#8 dynamitecop
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@Vaasman said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

Contrary to popular belief I enjoy PC gaming.

Ditto, this guy doesn't have a clue what he's talking about, he just hates PC.

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#9  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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Speaking of inconsistency, PS4 can't run 2d pixelated Broforce at stable framerate lol It runs it at 20fps Coral, at 20 fps !!!

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#10  Edited By Bigfatmistake
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

This guy is a PC gamer and he's stating these facts.

He said this in the comments,

PC is unquestionably the best platform for gaming, you don't have to pay for online, you get access to thousands of back catalog of games, you get the best performance/graphics etc.

:-)

I'm glad you feel that is a fact.

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#11 deactivated-583c85dc33d18
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Games crash and have problems on consoles too. Some are game breaking bugs. I remember Skyrim would slow to near 0 frames per second on PS3. Not sure if that ever got fully fixed.

I have met the incredibly rare problem on my PC, but it often requires little more than a 2 minute download and a restart. I think I've had to fix two games in my life. Now it's all automated anyways.

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#12  Edited By LuminousAether
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PC is definitely more complicated to maintain than a console, and there are a lot of troglodytes out there, but I have zero issues with PC gaming. Some games will give me some performance issues that I'll work a bit to smooth out, but I love having that option there. Take the PS4 and its best game, Bloodborne. That game has spectacularly awful performance, the kind that would make me upgrade my graphics card if I couldn't fix the performance issues through tweaks. But I can't do anything about it, it will just run terribly and that's all that there is to it. I like having the ability to tinker and fix that issue, an issue I care about quite a bit.

Also you should kill this "hermit" thing. It's not working for you.

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

So I've gotten flack on this board a few times, not naming names of who....about how my performance in so and so game isn't as good another person.

Hmmmm. Something is telling me that you will get flack again... But maybe something will be different this time...

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#14 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@lostrib:funny you were one of the ppl I was Talking about always bashing with "user error.

@jhonMalcovich said:

Speaking of inconsistency, PS4 can't run 2d pixelated Broforce at stable framerate lol It runs it at 20fps Coral, at 20 fps !!!

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Well lazy devs are on all platforms. Obviously if PS4 can run Second Son it can run Bro Force.

Thing is there's no way to test all factors on PC....not so on consoles. So we know they lazy devs.

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#15  Edited By lostrib
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Also, pretty sure that TC isn't bashed just because of his system preferences, but rather because he's a bit of an ass

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#16 lostrib
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@lostrib:funny you were one of the ppl I was Talking about always bashing with "user error.

There can be both. But when you can't figure out how to get your GTX 680 to run games above 900p, the problem is probably on your end

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#17  Edited By Yams1980
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Hardest time i ever had running a pc game was Ultima 7 back in 1992. You had to run the game in conventional memory which was limited compared to extended memory... and if you wanted the game to have sound also, it used even more which made it almost impossible to do. Only way I was able to get enough memory was running a really efficient mouse driver that spared enough memory for the game to run with sound. The driver was called ctmouse.exe and i still have it incase i ever want to run the game again in pure dos mode on my old pc.

Games now adays are so easy to run, if you can't figure it out you shouldn't own a pc... because since the invention of the internet, finding solutions to problems is very easy for almost anything.

The person who wrote that pc gamer article was probably a console owner.

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#18  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@lostrib:funny you were one of the ppl I was Talking about always bashing with "user error.

@jhonMalcovich said:

Speaking of inconsistency, PS4 can't run 2d pixelated Broforce at stable framerate lol It runs it at 20fps Coral, at 20 fps !!!

Well lazy devs are on all platforms. Obviously if PS4 can run Second Son it can run Bro Force.

Thing is there's no way to test all factors on PC....not so on consoles. So we know they lazy devs.

Well. This is why PS4 is inconsistent. It runs Second Sun, but can't run a 2d game such as BroForce....pretty much this is the definition of inconsistency on PS4 even though you "can test all factors" on it.

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#19 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@lostrib: lucky you. Those threads are too old for me to care to look up to show how you're lying to make yourself not look hypocritical.

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@lostrib: lucky you. Those threads are too old for me to care to look up to show how you're lying to make yourself not look hypocritical.

why would you call me a liar if you have no idea if i'm lying or not?

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@bigfatmistake said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

This guy is a PC gamer and he's stating these facts.

He said this in the comments,

PC is unquestionably the best platform for gaming, you don't have to pay for online, you get access to thousands of back catalog of games, you get the best performance/graphics etc.

:-)

I'm glad you feel that is a fact.

Huggles any comments on this?

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@lostrib:funny you were one of the ppl I was Talking about always bashing with "user error.

I'd say with utmost certainty that most problems are user error, lack of maintained file systems, lack of properly cleaning and installing drivers etc, like a 98+ percentile of issues.

The last time I had an issue with a PC game was Rage in 2011, and that was simply a driver issue, before that I can't even remember it's been so long.

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#23  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@lostrib: I do know....bc that post was false. I got my games to run @ 900p and 1080p.

You accused me of "user error" for the 900p.

You're exaggerating to make yourself not look like a hypocrite.

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#24  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@dynamitecop: TW2 installed incorrectly on my PC the first time I bought it. The requirements said 2GB of Ram and I had 4.

Yet there was a whole thread on a forum of ppl having to do a "pcredit" or something to direct more ram to the game and not the OS.

Stuff like that is aggravating.

Plus wasn't there an article about Nvidia saying most PC games were broken and they had to fix them with their drivers to run well on the cards.

So how is it 98% user error.

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@lostrib: I do know....bc that post was false. I got my games to run @ 900p and 1080p.

You accused me of "user error" for the 900p.

You're exaggerating to make yourself not look like a hypocrite.

i don't see what i was being hypocritical about. In your case, seems like there's a problem between the chair and keyboard. If you didn't look up what I'm referring to, then how can you know it's false?

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#27 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@lostrib: bc you said I have trouble getting games to 900p.....that is false.

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@lostrib: bc you said I have trouble getting games to 900p.....that is false.

Based on things you've said, so that's really more an issue on your side of things, unsurprisingly

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#29  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@lostrib: according to your first post technology can have problems.

And I didn't give you any technical info aside from my GPU and CPU maybe on why I could only get that game to 900p...so you have no foundation on which to base your claim.

You're just a troll hypocrite.

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#30 lostrib
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@lostrib: according to your first post technology can have problems.

And I didn't give you any technical info on why I could only get that game to 900p...so you have no foundation on which to base your claim.

You're just a troll hypocrite.

what was I a hypocrite about?

"I could only get that game to 900p"

see, it was your fault

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Well, i don't spend hours to run the games ....i mean you simply download it , install, then play :D

Yeup. I mean sure, sometimes I have to use something like Joy2Key with older ports. Omg the horror!

Seriously though, I know some people run into some bullshit with PC gaming sometimes. Infinite variation in hardware configs trying to run all kinds of software, someones bound to fall through the cracks.

Not me though! :D

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

This guy is a PC gamer and he's stating these facts.

He said this in the comments,

PC is unquestionably the best platform for gaming, you don't have to pay for online, you get access to thousands of back catalog of games, you get the best performance/graphics etc.

:-)

I'm glad you feel that is a fact.

lol nice.

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@lostrib: "Technology has problems"

"Even though I don't have any background to say.....its your fault."

So technology only has problems when I post about someone else having these issues?

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@lostrib: "Technology has problems"

"Even though I don't have any background to say.....its your fault."

So technology only has problems when I post about someone else having these issues?

who are you quoting? no one said that

for someone complaining about it, why would you post false things

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#34  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@ConanTheStoner said:
@mjorh said:

Well, i don't spend hours to run the games ....i mean you simply download it , install, then play :D

Yeup. I mean sure, sometimes I have to use something like Joy2Key with older ports. Omg the horror!

Seriously though, I know some people run into some bullshit with PC gaming sometimes. Infinite variation in hardware configs trying to run all kinds of software, someones bound to fall through the cracks.

Not me though! :D

@bigfatmistake said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

This guy is a PC gamer and he's stating these facts.

He said this in the comments,

PC is unquestionably the best platform for gaming, you don't have to pay for online, you get access to thousands of back catalog of games, you get the best performance/graphics etc.

:-)

I'm glad you feel that is a fact.

lol nice.

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at....his opinion is his opinion...let's not act like what you quoted can be any different....Connan, you're smarter than that.

What that opinion clearly does though is make him a PC gamer at heart....and he's saying these things...which factual as ppl do in fact have these problems.

I think that's quite the thing isn't it?

besides, why would I care if he says PC is best. In many ways it is the best. You trying to make a contribution bc you think I'm a console fanboy is leading to falsehoods.

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@mr_huggles_dog said:
@ConanTheStoner said:
@mjorh said:

Well, i don't spend hours to run the games ....i mean you simply download it , install, then play :D

Yeup. I mean sure, sometimes I have to use something like Joy2Key with older ports. Omg the horror!

Seriously though, I know some people run into some bullshit with PC gaming sometimes. Infinite variation in hardware configs trying to run all kinds of software, someones bound to fall through the cracks.

Not me though! :D

@bigfatmistake said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

This guy is a PC gamer and he's stating these facts.

He said this in the comments,

PC is unquestionably the best platform for gaming, you don't have to pay for online, you get access to thousands of back catalog of games, you get the best performance/graphics etc.

:-)

I'm glad you feel that is a fact.

lol nice.

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at....his opinion is his opinion...let's not act like what you quoted can be any different....Connan, you're smarter than that.

What that opinion clearly does though is make him a PC gamer at heart....and he's saying these things.

I think that's quite the thing isn't it?

why is that?

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#36  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@lostrib: You said it was my fault. I added for good measure that you had no foundation to say so bc it's true.

You're arguing semantics that are besides the fact.

Face it....you can't keep up with your own trolls.

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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@lostrib: You said it was my fault. I added for good measure that you had no foundation to say so.

You're arguing semantics that are besides the fact.

Face it....you can't keep up with your own trolls.

there's nothing to keep up with, you're the one just making these things up. You need to chill out

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#38 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@lostrib: that's not the point but since you seem to find it important....lets just say bc Jesus told me so in a dream.

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Connan, you're smarter than that.

You overestimate me sir. You even gave me an extra N, you're too kind.

Anyways, I'm just fueling the fire bro.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have my left hand on a big black knob and my right hand is pressing the buttons. In other words, it's Street Fighter time.

Later.

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@lostrib: that's not the point but since you seem to find it important....lets just say bc Jesus told me so in a dream.

You seem to find it important to put it as the end conclusion of your post. So i'm asking why that is "quite the thing"?

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#41  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@lostrib: what part of you saying "you can't get your games to work at 900p" vs "you can't get Farcry 3 to run passed 900p" do you not understand is lying.

Please stop using the "calm yourself" bit.

Once again the conversation with you has been worthless.

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#42 lostrib
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@lostrib: what part of you saying "you can't get your games to work passed 900p" vs "you can't get Farcry 3 to run passed 900p" do you not understand is lying.

Please stop using the "calm yourself" bit.

Once again the conversation with you has been worthless.

You're the one who feels the need to troll with these false accusations. The conversation being worthless seems to fall mostly on your head, once again

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#43 lostrib
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@ConanTheStoner said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

Connan, you're smarter than that.

You overestimate me sir. You even gave me an extra N, you're too kind.

Anyways, I'm just fueling the fire bro.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have my left hand on a big black knob and my right hand is pressing the buttons. In other words, it's Street Fighter time.

Later.

Are you sure you're not playing the Brazzers version?

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#44  Edited By dynamitecop
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@dynamitecop: TW2 installed incorrectly on my PC the first time I bought it. The requirements said 2GB of Ram and I had 4.

Yet there was a whole thread on a forum of ppl having to do a "" or something to direct more ram to the game and not the OS.

Stuff like that is aggravating.

Plus wasn't there an article about Nvidia saying most PC games were broken and they had to fix them with their drivers to run well on the cards.

So how is it 98% user error.

The Witcher 2 installed fine for me when it came out, and at the time with 8gb's of RAM there was never an issue with it parsing RAM for the game, also I never heard of anyone having this issue so it must have been pretty isolated or you're just dumb and messed something up.

Most PC games are not broken, they are optimized for the hardware and drivers that manufacturers like Nvidia and AMD create to the best of the developers ability. After that it's the responsibility of these manufacturers to fine tune their hardware around what the game developers created via drivers, they optimize their software around the game code.

You seem pretty ignorant in terms of the PC to be completely honest, just the way you post leads me to believe that you don't know much at all and as a result are the butt end of issues that others are not.

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#45 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@lostrib: again....lucky you. I'm not searching for an old ass thread to prove it.

Let's just say I'm lying: Fine...but I didn't make this video. I only posted about it.

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#46  Edited By mjorh
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@ConanTheStoner: :D, yeah some read too much into graphics, trying to make it as best as possible with different software and stuff, i get that but personally like you i don't care ...whenever i get a game , i just tweak the settings to get a solid smooth 60fps and that's it.

And hell even mods are easy to install.

Overall, i don't see any hassle with PC Gaming, at first yeah when you assemble and stuff but after that you're good to go.

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@ConanTheStoner said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:

Connan, you're smarter than that.

You overestimate me sir. You even gave me an extra N, you're too kind.

Anyways, I'm just fueling the fire bro.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have my left hand on a big black knob and my right hand is pressing the buttons. In other words, it's Street Fighter time.

Later.

Are you sure you're not playing the Brazzers version?

lmao :)))))))))

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#47  Edited By lostrib
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@mr_huggles_dog said:

@lostrib: again....lucky you. I'm not searching for an old ass thread to prove it.

Let's just say I'm lying: Fine...but I didn't make this video. I only posted about it.

user error once again

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#48  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@dynamitecop: I guess I can't use stuff that ppl have bandwagoned onto as counter points....I'll just be called ignorant.

Or a game not installing correctly is my fault.

It's ok...PC is t going anywhere. Theres no need for backhanded statements.

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#49 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@lostrib: you're too clever for me. Gonna play some Division.

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#50  Edited By Howmakewood
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Couldn't watch the video, too distracted of what a pile of turd CoD is, instant respawn non stop death match on a miniscule area, I guess that kind of goes with the trend these days when people have the attention span of 5seconds