PC games don't sell? Torchlight 2 sells one million copies!

I'm actually surprised it took them so long to reach the milestone, but they did it. For a such a small team and a low-budget game this is a huge success.

Torchlight 2 is probably one of the best hack and slash RPG games in the past several years. It easily beats most of the console action RPGs and IMO, it's better than Diablo 3 also.

Thoughts?

It deserves even more than that considering many claim it to be superior to Diablo 3. Torchlight 2 was the first loot based ARPG I put a significant amount of itme in and I loved it. Even at $20 it is a complete steal.

TL2 is so much better than DIII

Good to hear. I've yet to play either.

Crap sells tbh consider it got pirated to death and there are 6m concurrent stream users should be doing betterFear-

That makes zero sense. By that logic, certain 360 games should sell drastically better due to having 70 million shipped units (not sold).

[QUOTE="Fear-"]Crap sells tbh consider it got pirated to death and there are 6m concurrent stream users should be doing betterlundy86_4

That makes zero sense. By that logic, certain 360 games should sell drastically better due to having 70 million shipped units (not sold).

I said concurrent Fear-

I'm aware. My point actually negates yours further, than concurrent numbers would. I'm not even going to mention the attach rate.

Crap sells tbh consider it got pirated to death and there are 6m concurrent stream users should be doing betterFear-

Every popular game is getting pirated, on any platform. No company out there can avoid that. Big companies have huge marketing budgets to ensure big sales. Small companies like Runic Games have zero marketing budgets, and yet they are able to succeed big time because of sheer product quality and a million people out there who actually support their work.

Can't wait for their next project.

[QUOTE="Fear-"]I said concurrent lundy86_4

I'm aware. My point actually negates yours further, than concurrent numbers would. I'm not even going to mention the attach rate.

Selling a million isn;t that amazing? Successful yeah, not mindblowing tho.locopatho

Who said it's mindblowing? I surely didn't. But still it's a huge success for such a small team and for a such low-budget PC game.

Selling a million isn;t that amazing? Successful yeah, not mindblowing tho.locopatho

This is a low-budget game, with minimal advertising we're talking about...

When it comes to "AAA" titles, 1 million usually isn't enough to break even, and can often be viewed as a flop. But here, this is awesome news for the developer!

That's where the industry should be heading, lower budgets where breaking even and becoming profitable can be achieved with a reasonable amount of copies sold...

No concurrent means altogjter at one time at one moment Fear-

Why are you under the impression that I don't know the meaning of the word? I know what it means. In fact, i've corrected users on it in the past.

I wonder what they'll do with that money

It's even better considering that it's a DD title. That means that they see ~60% of the profits, compared to a retail title where they see less than 25% unless they're a juggernaut like EA that can publish their own game.tagyhag

Good point...

[QUOTE="Fear-"]No concurrent means altogjter at one time at one moment lundy86_4

Why are you under the impression that I don't know the meaning of the word? I know what it means. In fact, i've corrected users on it in the past.

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[QUOTE="Fear-"]No concurrent means altogjter at one time at one moment Fear-

Why are you under the impression that I don't know the meaning of the word? I know what it means. In fact, i've corrected users on it in the past.

What is this? :?

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[QUOTE="Fear-"]No concurrent means altogjter at one time at one moment Fear-

Why are you under the impression that I don't know the meaning of the word? I know what it means. In fact, i've corrected users on it in the past.

You aren't making sense, in more ways than one :lol:

Can I just be on the "sh!t list" anyway? Pretty please?

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Why are you under the impression that I don't know the meaning of the word? I know what it means. In fact, i've corrected users on it in the past.

lundy86_4

You aren't making sense, in more ways than one :lol:

Can I just be on the "sh!t list" anyway? Pretty please?

Please guys don't ruin this topic. Just shake hands and move on...

[QUOTE="Fear-"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Why are you under the impression that I don't know the meaning of the word? I know what it means. In fact, i've corrected users on it in the past.

lundy86_4

You aren't making sense, in more ways than one :lol:

Can I just be on the "sh!t list" anyway? Pretty please?

It's too late your on there ur regret being on there it's no joke you'll be humitamted not meFear-

Yes! I love it!

Put me on twice!

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[QUOTE="Fear-"] Dude atop trying to worm your way out of this, just admit it, or your on sh!t list.IgGy621985

You aren't making sense, in more ways than one :lol:

Can I just be on the "sh!t list" anyway? Pretty please?

Please guys don't ruin this topic. Just shake hands and move on...

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[QUOTE="Fear-"]I said concurrent Fear-

I'm aware. My point actually negates yours further, than concurrent numbers would. I'm not even going to mention the attach rate.

Does this concurrency mean simply logged in or actually playing games? Steam typically runs and logs in a user during pc startup. Most people are logged into steam whenever their pc is on.Cranler

Most probably simply logged in. I for one start Steam only when I'm about to play a game. But that's just me. I have only a few startup programs, like antivirus, firewall and dropbox (needed for work).

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I'm aware. My point actually negates yours further, than concurrent numbers would. I'm not even going to mention the attach rate.

Cranler

I wonder how much more it would sell if it didn't come out in the same year as Diablo 3 :P

I wonder how much more it would sell if it didn't come out in the same year as Diablo 3 :P

NoodleFighter

Doubt it would be much better. Torchlight is still a pretty unknown franchise when comparing to D3.

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I wonder how much more it would sell if it didn't come out in the same year as Diablo 3 :P

IgGy621985

Doubt it would be much better. Torchlight is still a pretty unknown franchise when comparing to D3.

But the original sold over 1 million and quite a lot of people in China pirated it, but it does seem T2 sold in a quicker time span than the original

Torchlight 2 and Diablo 3 should exchange their sales

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[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

I wonder how much more it would sell if it didn't come out in the same year as Diablo 3 :P

NoodleFighter

Doubt it would be much better. Torchlight is still a pretty unknown franchise when comparing to D3.

But the original sold over 1 million and quite a lot of people in China pirated it, but it does seem T2 sold in a quicker time span than the original

Sure, but when you compare it with over a 10 million copies D3 sold, it's still pretty miserable. Diablo is a divinity among gamers, one of the most powerful gaming franchises ever, and that is something Torchlight most probably won't ever accomplish, unless they upgrade their business and start making some serious marketing.

Pity it doesn't have 360 pad support, since I would have bought it on launch.

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I wonder how much more it would sell if it didn't come out in the same year as Diablo 3 :P

IgGy621985

Doubt it would be much better. Torchlight is still a pretty unknown franchise when comparing to D3.

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[QUOTE="Fear-"]Crap sells tbh consider it got pirated to death and there are 6m concurrent stream users should be doing betterFear-

That makes zero sense. By that logic, certain 360 games should sell drastically better due to having 70 million shipped units (not sold).

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[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

I wonder how much more it would sell if it didn't come out in the same year as Diablo 3 :P

CanYouDiglt

Doubt it would be much better. Torchlight is still a pretty unknown franchise when comparing to D3.

Diablo is like a religion for those 10+ million people who bought D3. That's why D3 probably didn't need that much TV advertising.
I mean, take me for example. I was a million times more hyped for D3 than for T2. That's why I bought D3 on day one, and T2 much later.

Both games are great, but you can feel the developers' passion in T2, just like you felt it in D2. D3 doesn't have that.

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Doubt it would be much better. Torchlight is still a pretty unknown franchise when comparing to D3.

IgGy621985

Diablo is like a religion for those 10+ million people who bought D3. That's why D3 probably didn't need that much TV advertising.
I mean, take me for example. I was a million times more hyped for D3 than for T2. That's why I bought D3 on day one, and T2 much later.

Both games are great, but you can feel the developers' passion in T2, just like you felt it in D2. D3 doesn't have that.

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="IgGy621985"]

Doubt it would be much better. Torchlight is still a pretty unknown franchise when comparing to D3.

IgGy621985

Diablo is like a religion for those 10+ million people who bought D3. That's why D3 probably didn't need that much TV advertising.
I mean, take me for example. I was a million times more hyped for D3 than for T2. That's why I bought D3 on day one, and T2 much later.

Both games are great, but you can feel the developers' passion in T2, just like you felt it in D2. D3 doesn't have that.

[QUOTE="Fear-"]Crap sells tbh consider it got pirated to death and there are 6m concurrent stream users should be doing betterIgGy621985

Every popular game is getting pirated, on any platform. No company out there can avoid that. Big companies have huge marketing budgets to ensure big sales. Small companies like Runic Games have zero marketing budgets, and yet they are able to succeed big time because of sheer product quality and a million people out there who actually support their work.

Can't wait for their next project.

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[QUOTE="Fear-"]Crap sells tbh consider it got pirated to death and there are 6m concurrent stream users should be doing betterlowe0

Every popular game is getting pirated, on any platform. No company out there can avoid that. Big companies have huge marketing budgets to ensure big sales. Small companies like Runic Games have zero marketing budgets, and yet they are able to succeed big time because of sheer product quality and a million people out there who actually support their work.

Can't wait for their next project.

Yeah well Runic Games and Perferct World - not the same. Runic are the subsidiary and their budgets are still limited by their success and the parent company.

What's truly impressive is that it's PC exclusive and sold over 1 mln copies in less than 4 months. By comparision, Torchlight 1 took almost two years to pass 1 mln copies combined on PC and 360.