PC Gaming Alliance says LucasArts isn't educated (regarding no SW TFU on PC)

Well, PC Gaming Alliance actually started doing something.

Anyway, we all remember what LA said why they're not bringing Star Wars onto PC. If not:

LAtard: "The PC being the gaming platform that it is, someone with a $4,000 high-end system would definitely be able to play the Euphoria, the DMM and really technical elements of the game. But someone with a low-end PC would have a watered down experience, they would have to turn all the settings down and it wouldn't be the same game"

So, PC Gaming Alliance president Randy Stude responded to LucasArts. Pretty bad timing, but it's better now than never:

PCGA: "That's not an educated answer. In the last several years there have been at least 100 million PCs sold that have the capabilities or better of an Xbox 360. It's ridiculous to say that there's not enough audience for that game potentially and that it falls into this enthusiast extreme category when ported over to the PC. That's an uneducated response."

"I think you probably got plenty of feedback and opinions from your readers and my personal opinion is if they're making games for the Wii, Xbox and PS3 they're scaling their experience to meet all three of those platforms. They're good on the Wii, better on the Xbox 360 and the best on the PS3. There's no argument that they could give not to be able to support good better and best on the PC."

He went on to make some damning comments regarding the quality of LucasArts' games as well as their current development strategy, which he called "job shopping".

"LucasArts hasn't made a good PC game in a long time," he said. "That's my opinion. They make some pretty good games for the Wii, you know those little sticks you wave in the air, that seems like a natural fit for a lightsaber game, sure. But I think the last good PC game they made was probably Jedi Knight 2, and even their strategy games weren't that great. So I can understand why they would make that call.

This one is probably the most interesting quote:

"They're not really creating product within LucasArts themselves. They're going at it job shopping their IP. That may be a little controversial for me to say, but that's what I see. There's no development team necessarily within LucasArts any more, they've basically turned into an intellectual property machine and supporting the PC, why should they? It really doesn't fit their property."

Do you think they are going to make any new PC games anytime soon? PC gaming is on the up swing but piracy is taking it down a little.

Do you think they are going to make any new PC games anytime soon? PC gaming is on the up swing but piracy is taking it down a little.

PS3_3DO

Honestly? No. But then again, they're making KotOR MMO with BioWare...

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Do you think they are going to make any new PC games anytime soon? PC gaming is on the up swing but piracy is taking it down a little.

IgGy621985

Honestly? No. But then again, they're making KotOR MMO with BioWare...

They are! :o Did they officially announce it? When are they going to announce it to the public.

So basically, Lucasarts is a temp service. Once the assignment is complete, your fired.

I wondered why TFU wasn't on the PC but is on the PSP, WTF?!? Despite other versions not having their Euphoria engine, they still made it work for extremely weak processors by comparison.

They are! :o Did they officially announce it? When are they going to announce it to the public.

PS3_3DO

It's not officially announced yet, but in about 4 days or so there's going to be a BioWare announcement of their "project in collaboration with LucasArts". So, go figure :)

SW TFU is not all cracked up to be.

The game is short, repetive, fighting Jedis/Siths on hard is just impossible, you visit the same environments too much.

Fun for the first 1/2 times on Easy and Medium but the game just cheats on Hard and the lightsaber combat against other Jedi is unbalanced and you cant land a decent combo.

I miss their adventures aff well

When's the last time LucasArts did something in-house before TFU? Even the Jedi Knight games were developed by Raven, not LucasArts.Makari

On the other hand though, without LucasArts being as bad as they were all those adventure-centered people wouldn't leave the company we PCgamers wouldn't have gotten two seasons of Sam and Max as well as upcoming Mata Hari and Vampyre Story :)

Do you think they are going to make any new PC games anytime soon? PC gaming is on the up swing but piracy is taking it down a little.

PS3_3DO

AS GOES FOR THE 360

WOW.... *insert souja boy gif* PCGA totally ripped on them, this is fantastic :) Hopefully it's harsh enough for LucasArts to take note.

LA stopped being a good developer years ago, like many others: Bioware, Bethesda, etc. I don't get why great developers turn like that.thegfl

for the $$$$ my friend. Just look at how many copy TFU sold in 2 weeks, even though the game is below average in term of gameplay

Hell yes.

Thank god the PC gaming community finally has a VOICE.

*sigh of relief*

Thank-you PCGA for telling Lucas Arts what they deserve to hear - the truth.

[QUOTE="thegfl"]LA stopped being a good developer years ago, like many others: Bioware, Bethesda, etc. I don't get why great developers turn like that.Franko_3

for the $$$$ my friend. Just look at how many copy TFU sold in 2 weeks, even though the game is below average in term of gameplay

Sadly, but I think that a great game marketed to hell can also make lots of copies. The bad thing is that great games don't have enough budget to market...

I love how they call LA's response uneducated, then goes on and says that over 100 million PC's has been sold that have the capabilities of a 360.stappy

You would think for 2 years now quite a few would have, wouldn't you.... Not even counting the amount of ATI cards sold.... or Intel Core 2 Duo CPUs....

All signs do point to 100 million being far from 'uneducated'

Besides throwing that around, then trying to compare it to Lucas Arts statement is ridiculous.

I love how they call LA's response uneducated, then goes on and says that over 100 million PC's has been sold that have the capabilities of a 360.stappy

they have access to detailed numbers, they sell this hardware themselves. I don't see how is that difficult to believe.

All i read is this.

they said that did they? okay lets say this and call them names.

WilliamRLBaker

That's not an educated answer. In the last several years there have been at least 100 million PCs sold that have the capabilities or better of an Xbox 360

Guess you missed that. But then again lemmings apparently have selective reading.

I love how they call LA's response uneducated, then goes on and says that over 100 million PC's has been sold that have the capabilities of a 360.stappy

YES because the people who are SELLING the hardware obviously have no idea what the sales figures are. OBVIOUSLY.

So the PC gaming alliance says multiplats are best on PS3? :) Anyway, hermits shouldn't even bother with this game. It's terrible. I'd much rather just dig out Jedi Outcast and play it again.

[QUOTE="Makari"]When's the last time LucasArts did something in-house before TFU? Even the Jedi Knight games were developed by Raven, not LucasArts.AdrianWerner

On the other hand though, without LucasArts being as bad as they were all those adventure-centered people wouldn't leave the company we PCgamers wouldn't have gotten two seasons of Sam and Max as well as upcoming Mata Hari and Vampyre Story :)

Gone is the LucasArts of old who made such games as Day of the Tentacle, Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis, and X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter.

They used to make nothing but cla$$ics. Now they make nothing.

its true. lucasarts are n00bz for saying that the pc cant handle it :roll:

im pretty sure everyone or the majority own a pc which isnt 20years old :roll:

it was just an excuse cos of the piracy which for some reason they didnt want to state in their dumb answer

I love how they call LA's response uneducated, then goes on and says that over 100 million PC's has been sold that have the capabilities of a 360.stappy

You do know you can get a 9800 GT for close to $120 and it is more powerful then anything a console can put out.. And thats really the most expensive component most times in a pc..

I love how they call LA's response uneducated, then goes on and says that over 100 million PC's has been sold that have the capabilities of a 360.stappy

Yes because I'm pretty sure they don't know the sales figures for their own hardware :roll:

Gone is the LucasArts of old who made such games as Day of the Tentacle, Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis, and X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter.

They used to make nothing but cla$$ics. Now they make nothing.

mjarantilla

but the people still exist :) WHich is why I can't wait for Mata Hari (Fata of Atlantis lead designer/writer is handling it ) as well as Vampyre Story

I don't care what either side says. I'm a PC gamer and I wouldn't buy the game on PC. Action titles offer me no incentive on the PC and often require a controller to feel comfortable. WASD and a mouse is fantastic for an FPS, RPG, or RTS, but when it comes to platforming and action I'd rather have analog movement.

So with that said, sure it could definitely be done on PC, and despite was Lucas Arts says, it could even be improved upon. To defend them though, they most likely wouldn't sell nearly enough on PC to make it worth it.

So they went on to say that LucasArts haven't made a good game since Jedi Knight 2, yet they are *****ing and moaning that they don't get The Force Unleashed on PC? If it was such a crap game, they wouldn't have even bothered responding to them.

If you want The Force Unleashed, buy a console or a handheld. There you go.

I don't care what either side says. I'm a PC gamer and I wouldn't buy the game on PC. Action titles offer me no incentive on the PC and often require a controller to feel comfortable. WASD and a mouse is fantastic for an FPS, RPG, or RTS, but when it comes to platforming and action I'd rather have analog movement.

So with that said, sure it could definitely be done on PC, and despite was Lucas Arts says, it could even be improved upon. To defend them though, they most likely wouldn't sell nearly enough on PC to make it worth it.

Velric

well we would nevere know now. Releaseing it now would be pointless because the game diden't get good review scores and would be late.

[QUOTE="Velric"]

I don't care what either side says. I'm a PC gamer and I wouldn't buy the game on PC. Action titles offer me no incentive on the PC and often require a controller to feel comfortable. WASD and a mouse is fantastic for an FPS, RPG, or RTS, but when it comes to platforming and action I'd rather have analog movement.

So with that said, sure it could definitely be done on PC, and despite was Lucas Arts says, it could even be improved upon. To defend them though, they most likely wouldn't sell nearly enough on PC to make it worth it.

JangoWuzHere

well we would nevere know now. Releaseing it now would be pointless because the game diden't get good review scores and would be late.

Except it did get good review scores and many other games have been late to the party before.

And since when do developers care about review scores, as long as they sell? :?

[QUOTE="Velric"]

I don't care what either side says. I'm a PC gamer and I wouldn't buy the game on PC. Action titles offer me no incentive on the PC and often require a controller to feel comfortable. WASD and a mouse is fantastic for an FPS, RPG, or RTS, but when it comes to platforming and action I'd rather have analog movement.

So with that said, sure it could definitely be done on PC, and despite was Lucas Arts says, it could even be improved upon. To defend them though, they most likely wouldn't sell nearly enough on PC to make it worth it.

JangoWuzHere

well we would nevere know now. Releaseing it now would be pointless because the game diden't get good review scores and would be late.

No, we do actually sort of know. Can you name an action title for the PC that has actually sold well?

Assassin's Creed? Devil May Cry 3? Resident Evil 4?

Pretty sure none of them put up numbers worth writing home about.

Can you name an action title for the PC that has actually sold well?

Assassin's Creed? Devil May Cry 3? Resident Evil 4?

Pretty sure none of them put up numbers worth writing home about.

Velric

Dude, those games weren't designed for PC at first place. I mean, would you really like to buy a crippled product with no marketing support whatsoever?

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="Velric"]

I don't care what either side says. I'm a PC gamer and I wouldn't buy the game on PC. Action titles offer me no incentive on the PC and often require a controller to feel comfortable. WASD and a mouse is fantastic for an FPS, RPG, or RTS, but when it comes to platforming and action I'd rather have analog movement.

So with that said, sure it could definitely be done on PC, and despite was Lucas Arts says, it could even be improved upon. To defend them though, they most likely wouldn't sell nearly enough on PC to make it worth it.

DeathScape666

well we would nevere know now. Releaseing it now would be pointless because the game diden't get good review scores and would be late.

Except it did get good review scores and many other games have been late to the party before.

And since when do developers care about review scores, as long as they sell? :?

Are you kidding me? The salary bonuses of many mid-to-high-tier developers are dependent on two things: sales and review scores. They have a LOT of motivation to get high review scores.

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"][QUOTE="Velric"]

I don't care what either side says. I'm a PC gamer and I wouldn't buy the game on PC. Action titles offer me no incentive on the PC and often require a controller to feel comfortable. WASD and a mouse is fantastic for an FPS, RPG, or RTS, but when it comes to platforming and action I'd rather have analog movement.

So with that said, sure it could definitely be done on PC, and despite was Lucas Arts says, it could even be improved upon. To defend them though, they most likely wouldn't sell nearly enough on PC to make it worth it.

Velric

well we would nevere know now. Releaseing it now would be pointless because the game diden't get good review scores and would be late.

No, we do actually sort of know. Can you name an action title for the PC that has actually sold well?

Assassin's Creed? Devil May Cry 3? Resident Evil 4?

Pretty sure none of them put up numbers worth writing home about.

yes because nameing bad ports by some of the worst PC porting companys is a great example :roll:

and all of those game were late as well.

their are better pc's than xbox 360 and ps3 but ps3 and 360 can process physics, and you'll need a physics card on the pc if you have a 8800 series or lower

I think, I might be wrong

Good riddance, honestly. PC gaming needs to be killed ASAP.usmcjdk6

so what the LA rep said was completely stupid and false.

in other news, grim fandango was released yesterday

I'm pretty sure Euphoria, Havok, and DMM have more to do with the CPU than the GPU. The CPUs of the 360 and PS3 are more powerful than the CPU of the average PC. I think thats what LucasArts was referring to.Zero5000X

Ughh no....

their are better pc's than xbox 360 and ps3 but ps3 and 360 can process physics, and you'll need a physics card on the pc if you have a 8800 series or lower

I think, I might be wrong

All_that_is_Man

Physics cards are useless...

they are a big waste of money even thoe they give you know clear atvantage in physic performance.