PC Gaming is a sinking ship compared to the might of the console.

With Steam being the last Bastion of defence for PC gaming and most developers choosing to focus on consoles, I think it's safe to say that PC gaming is doomed. Recent company shutdowns, such as the S.TA.L.K.E.R studio, are one of many who are failing to cope in a climate where the consumer only wants to play on consoles. Quality PC exclusives such as Crysis are opting to be on consoles too and soon there will be no exclusives. Skyrim is console-centric, Dragon Age is console-centric, as it Mass Effect 3 by the looks of it. Looking at the recent CoD sales on PC also suggest that it's a dying platform; nobody wants to play it on PC, thus it'll continue to make a load of money on consoles.

Also, the expensive aspect of the Gaming Rig puts people off buying a Gaming PC; nobody in this climate wants to throw down $3000 on an alienware PC when they could buy a console for $250. This is making the PC market lose gamers, thus the console market is saturating. Another reason is that there is minor graphical difference between the 6 year old console and the new-line PCs. Uncharted and Gears of War, and even Crysis for consoles looks the same as PC graphics; and the PC gamers rely on 'mods' to make their graphics look acceptable. For example, Vanilla Naughty Bear on 360 matches The Witcher 2 on PC; here we have a clear example of why it is better to own a console.

Socially, it is less acceptable to own a Gaming PC; you're seen as much cooler and you get loads of friends if you own a console, especially a PS3, that is where all the cool brosephs are at. PS3 owners get invited to parties, drive fast cars and get lots of hos. Owning a 360 is okay, but you're a mere peasant in comparison to the Glorious Sony Master Race.

Anyway, I digress, the bottom line is, PC gaming is dying and I suggest those who own a rig should abandon it quickly before it is too late!

hmm let me get my stuff ready on why i disagree

Your reasons about the graphics are stupidly wrong

ere is what I have to say.

The steam userbase is growing every year by 5 million and more and more people are online a day on steam. Microsoft plans to integrate XBL into Windows 8 out of the boss a long with Windows 8 catering to all groups and being simple as a console (next xbox plans on using it). GOG (Good Old Games) the famous DRM FREE store plans on bring the goods to Modern Games so now gamers who don't care about Steam, Origin and all that can just download their games DRM.

AMD APUs are making PC gaming more affordable for the entry level. Even users with brandname prebuilt PCs have been surprised of what their APU can do in terms of gaming. Soon APUs in the future will be capable of more. AMD APUs also can provide users with a HTPC with great performance. APUs also have the ability where you can crossfire it with a cheap $50-$100 DX11 GPU and get even more out of it such as higher graphical settings 1080p and more.

As earlier Microsoft is now making Kinect for PC next year so yes a mainstream motion controller is now on PC, which will also boost the attention of the platform. In terms of Motion controls Kinect can be for the casuals and the Razer Hydra for the more core group. Controller support is becoming the norm for games with certain exceptions.

We also have companies ike epic games shifting back to pc

The F2P and MMO Market are spicing things up with games such Guild Wars 2, and FireFall. The F2P market has been gaining western developers such as Crytek, Pirahna Games, Red 5 Studios and more soon to come. Graphics, Animation, Physics

Here is a lil look of what's coming to us soon

Tribes Ascend: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oevWde_F-yU

FireFall: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g9xRCxWWd0

WarFace: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoqPjKP2jKI&feature=channel_video_title

Blacklight Retribution: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HevGgDe6BJs

meanwhile, on Steam.....

If it's sinking then it's sinking.

I've heard so many people say that and then eat a lot of crow later that I simply quit caring.

fight fight fight

Another reason is that there is minor graphical difference between the 6 year old console and the new-line PCs. Uncharted and Gears of War, and even Crysis for consoles looks the same as PC graphics; and the PC gamers rely on 'mods' to make their graphics look acceptable. For example, Vanilla Naughty Bear on 360 matches The Witcher 2 on PC; here we have a clear example of why it is better to own a console.DarthJohnova

Stopped reading at "$3000 PC". You have no idea of what you're talking about

If it's sinking then it's sinking.

I've heard so many people say that and then eat a lot of crow later that I simply quit caring.

jun_aka_pekto

Yeah,yeah,PC gaming is dead and it sucks,consoles are awesome...

*goes back to heavily modded Skyrim ;) *

Wow. Iantheone

:lol:

That is all.

Seriously, if people are gaming on Friday nights, they're probably dateless and not getting laid. Nothing will convince me otherwise. Do gamers here seriously think they look cool to women while holding a game controller?

Yeah,yeah,PC gaming is dead and it sucks,consoles are awesome...

*goes back to heavily modded Skyrim ;) *

Rocker6

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

If it's sinking then it's sinking.

I've heard so many people say that and then eat a lot of crow later that I simply quit caring.

DarthJohnova

Yeah,yeah,PC gaming is dead and it sucks,consoles are awesome...

*goes back to heavily modded Skyrim ;) *

Rocker6

$3000 might be a lot of money if you're a poor loser, heh.

GSC hasn't officially closed, and if they are having trouble it's due to internal conflict not consoles.

Steam is constantly growing its userbase.

As an example: if new cars are getting faster, does that mean old cars are getting slower? No. Console gaming has grown, but that doesn't mean PC gaming got smaller, though I would argue that PC exclusive gaming has gotten smaller.

Seriously, if people are gaming on Friday nights, they're probably dateless and not getting laid. Nothing will convince me otherwise. Do gamers here seriously think they look cool to women while holding a game controller?

jun_aka_pekto

The PS triple and it's predecessors will be dead long before the PC.

[QUOTE="DarthJohnova"][QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

If it's sinking then it's sinking.

I've heard so many people say that and then eat a lot of crow later that I simply quit caring.

NoodleFighter

Oh look, another 'exclusive' that was ported because consoles are much more beneficial to produce for. You fulfilled an example of what's happening to the market for me :lol:

GSC hasn't officially closed, and if they are having trouble it's due to internal conflict not consoles.

Steam is constantly growing its userbase.

As an example: if new cars are getting faster, does that mean old cars are getting slower? No. Console gaming has grown, but that doesn't mean PC gaming got smaller, though I would argue that PC exclusive gaming has gotten smaller.

DigitalExile

Seriously, if people are gaming on Friday nights, they're probably dateless and not getting laid. Nothing will convince me otherwise. Do gamers here seriously think they look cool to women while holding a game controller?

jun_aka_pekto

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Yeah,yeah,PC gaming is dead and it sucks,consoles are awesome...

*goes back to heavily modded Skyrim ;) *

parkurtommo

Only graphical mods are the devil,he says.What about those gameplay ones that allow you to kill children? :P

Lot of lulz on this thread...

Oh look, another 'exclusive' that was ported because consoles are much more beneficial to produce for. You fulfilled an example of what's happening to the market for me :lol:

DarthJohnova

nobody in this climate wants to throw down $3000 on an alienware PC.

DarthJohnova

And anyone who does is a complete idiot.

An i5 2500k/GTX 580 build wouldn't even cost you much more than $800. And that would pretty much max all games.

For people who only want console quality graphics, they wouldn't even have to spend much over $300, let alone $3000.

[QUOTE="DarthJohnova"]

Oh look, another 'exclusive' that was ported because consoles are much more beneficial to produce for. You fulfilled an example of what's happening to the market for me :lol:

Iantheone

I see it in the exactly opposite way: in the last years some PC-focused developers spent a lot of time and money building "AAA" titles that underperformed in sales (Dragon Age 2, Bulletstorm, Crysis 2, Brink, Rage...) whereas PC-only games as Starcraft II, Shogun 2, The Witcher 2, Minecraft and League Of Legends had huge achievements in term of financial success, and even multiplatform games as Bad Company 2 or Skyrim are doing it wonders in PC sales, providing superior technical quality to the customers in the PC platform, whereas consoles are falling away and the visual gap is now massive.

This, combined with the release of top tier PC games as Dota 2, Guild Wars 2 or Diablo III in the incoming months will display even more clearly the strenght and momentum in the current time of the PC platform: honestly the current gen of consoles is already dying, and outside a few games as CODs, Halos and the Gears Of War franchise (plus Rockstar games) most of developers are struggling to hit 2 million sales in most of their console games, despite the huge amount of Wiis, Xboxes and PS3s in the market.

In a year and half, with the arrival of the new consoles and the increase of the development cost, making games exclusives for consoles will be even more riskiers and dangerous. The console market is shrinking whereas PC gaming and phone/tablet gaming is growing...

Seriously, if people are gaming on Friday nights, they're probably dateless and not getting laid. Nothing will convince me otherwise. Do gamers here seriously think they look cool to women while holding a game controller?

jun_aka_pekto

Or there are the gamers like me the past few weekends who are skint and strapped forcash so cant afford to go out on the lash or manage to always get a date, and i know many a woman who is a gamer strangely a few of them play games like Skyrim.

Besides some of my best memories of my ex were us sitting in chilled out playing LBP1.

[QUOTE="DarthJohnova"][QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

If it's sinking then it's sinking.

I've heard so many people say that and then eat a lot of crow later that I simply quit caring.

NoodleFighter

So how long do I have to wait before the quality developers are all gone? How soon is soon. I've seen the Amiga die as a platform. I know how many years it took for that to happen. Now you have people here acting like market analysts. Tell em to go to the stock market and make some money instead of trying to forecast in a game forum.

Seriously, if people are gaming on Friday nights, they're probably dateless and not getting laid. Nothing will convince me otherwise. Do gamers here seriously think they look cool to women while holding a game controller?

jun_aka_pekto

False. Saturday night is the true party night.

The developers behind STALKER didn't go under till the game made its way to being multiplatform. They did very well on the 3 PC exclusives they made. All sold in the millions not counting the ones people have been getting in these recent Steam sales. As for Steam being the last hope, that is not true at all GreenManGaming, Direct2Drive, GoodOldGames, Origin, Gamefly, Gametap, Impulse/Gamestop, Amazon, and many more are all big players in the PC digital market. Why would things like Origin, Gamestop, and Amazon being getting involved with/growing their PC sections if PC gaming were a sinking ship. Handhelds will be replaced by mobile and consoles will follow suit in the next 10 or so years. PC is an open platform, it will always be around.

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

Seriously, if people are gaming on Friday nights, they're probably dateless and not getting laid. Nothing will convince me otherwise. Do gamers here seriously think they look cool to women while holding a game controller?

DireOwl

False. Saturday night is the true party night.

Nope. Saturday nights are spent in a motel room somewhere. At least that's what I spent my Saturday nights on when I was younger.

[QUOTE="Iantheone"][QUOTE="DarthJohnova"]

Oh look, another 'exclusive' that was ported because consoles are much more beneficial to produce for. You fulfilled an example of what's happening to the market for me :lol:

DarthJohnova

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

Seriously, if people are gaming on Friday nights, they're probably dateless and not getting laid. Nothing will convince me otherwise. Do gamers here seriously think they look cool to women while holding a game controller?

DireOwl

False. Saturday night is the true party night.

Nah man for the weekend working warrior who loves a tipple a Thursday night here is the king since its student night so its cheap night :P Mind you work's never ever stopped me from going out a Friday or a Saturday.

For example,Vanilla Naughty Bear on 360 matches The Witcher 2 on PC; here we have a clear example of why it is better to own a console.

DarthJohnova

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[QUOTE="DireOwl"]

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

Seriously, if people are gaming on Friday nights, they're probably dateless and not getting laid. Nothing will convince me otherwise. Do gamers here seriously think they look cool to women while holding a game controller?

jun_aka_pekto

False. Saturday night is the true party night.

Nope. Saturday nights are spent in a motel room somewhere.

As I said the TRUE PARTY night. ;)

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

[QUOTE="DarthJohnova"] But it is sinking, and very quickly. Soon there won't be any quality developers left!DarthJohnova

Oh look, another 'exclusive' that was ported because consoles are much more beneficial to produce for. You fulfilled an example of what's happening to the market for me :lol:

Funny how it sold more on PC and was way more profitable on PC

Stopped reading at "$3000 PC". You have no idea of what you're talking about

Lox_Cropek

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Yeah,yeah,PC gaming is dead and it sucks,consoles are awesome...

*goes back to heavily modded Skyrim ;) *

DarthJohnova

Only lowly console peasants are stupid enough to think mods=cheats.

With Steam being the last Bastion...

DarthJohnova

[QUOTE="DarthJohnova"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Yeah,yeah,PC gaming is dead and it sucks,consoles are awesome...

*goes back to heavily modded Skyrim ;) *

vtoshkatur

Only lowly console peasants are stupid enough to think mods=cheats.

Were gamers just like you and btw that Yahtzee meme died bout an ice age ago.

Besides mods exist on UT3 on PS3 strangely.

[QUOTE="DarthJohnova"]

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

NoodleFighter

Oh look, another 'exclusive' that was ported because consoles are much more beneficial to produce for. You fulfilled an example of what's happening to the market for me :lol:

Funny how it sold more on PC and was way more profitable on PC

Trolling, you're doing it wrong.

[QUOTE="Iantheone"][QUOTE="DarthJohnova"]

Oh look, another 'exclusive' that was ported because consoles are much more beneficial to produce for. You fulfilled an example of what's happening to the market for me :lol:

DarthJohnova

Teamfortress 2 made for consoles *looks at the PC version then the console version*..........................

Oh look, another 'exclusive' that was ported because consoles are much more beneficial to produce for. You fulfilled an example of what's happening to the market for me :lol:

DarthJohnova

All exclusive gaming has gotten smaller. It isnt just the PC thats losing exclusives. Iantheone

Seriously, if people are gaming on Friday nights, they're probably dateless and not getting laid. Nothing will convince me otherwise. Do gamers here seriously think they look cool to women while holding a game controller?

jun_aka_pekto

[QUOTE="DarthJohnova"]

For example,Vanilla Naughty Bear on 360 matches The Witcher 2 on PC; here we have a clear example of why it is better to own a console.

Peredith

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What?You don't like jaggies everywhere and lack of AA with all those cute teddies?

I find it charming,much better than Witcher 2's Uber-Sampling :P

Stupidest thread I've seen all week. Why are people incapable of trolling the PC without looking like a moron?