PC gaming is the best

I play on pc and consoles. consoles are better for me

K&M > Pad in shooter for me

Pc is silly. Pop disc in, begin playing. Fun.locopatho

Never heard of disc autorun? ;) pop-in, click, fun

they each have there place, and dedicated servers like on mw2 :p lots of ps3 games have dedicated servers, anyway. Mods are great but most of them involve making someone naked

I see all you saying how this console game is the best but it stops there. on the pc that game would have mods and better graphics and a keyboard and mouse controller. Also dedicated servers is a must for playing games because it elimates the host advantage. I don't no why people would even consider playing games on a console when the pc is there for them.HermitQ6600

PC need constant updates, fixes, patches, the games are pirated like hell, 50% of times rheres always "something" that ruins the experience, or you dont have the right drivers, or you need a fix, or the game didnt instal properly, not to mention you always need to configure over and over to get the best experience possible, if the PC has a problems you cant play games, if you need format, you need to reinstall everything again.. and the list goes on and on

not to mention online in PC most times is anoying for everygame you want to play you have to go through the process of registration in here and there for everygame

in consoles pretty mutch everything resumes to, put the DVd/Blu-ray in sit back and play, the only real problems are RROD or YLOD, no configurations, no fixes, no patches, no drivers

[QUOTE="locopatho"]Pc is silly. Pop disc in, begin playing. Fun.ShadowriverUB

Never heard of disc autorun? ;) pop-in, click, fun

PC for strategy games. Console for everything else.

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[QUOTE="locopatho"]Pc is silly. Pop disc in, begin playing. Fun.locopatho

Never heard of disc autorun? ;) pop-in, click, fun

15years gaming on pc never had as significant problems as the ones you described especially the last 4-5years where gaming thanks to services like steam and impulse became more convenient and easier to get into

Installing takes 10minutes at most in a relatively new pc, patches guess what are also common on consoles while most of the times when you buy a game you dont have to install patches to start playing and as for segmentation fault just because your HD broke means pc gaming is hard to get into? Even heard of Prod or disk scratching just like Pc's Consoles are also prone to hardware fault even more so than pc equipped with quality parts

Finally the fact that you can still play BG2 even with problems tells pc at least have BC unlike Consoles and usually those problems on older games are fixable

Drivers you dont have to download all the time only when you have serious problems in a games and it takes 10minutes to download and install usually every 4-5 months About reconfiguring how is it bad to have the options to reconfigure graphics to make the game runs best at your hardware ( if you have a relatively new gaming vga imple as that you put all thinks to highest and you only have to reconfigure if you have older or weak vgas which usually the game does that automatically now days and let alone is a good think because it allows more people with weaker hardware to play a game )

Same goes for Controls on consoles if you dont like a control scheme then you are stuck with it unlike pc where you can change both the control scheme and the controls ( you can use gamepads, wheels or the good old M+KB or even a ps3 or even a wii controller )

i never understand why more options is a bad think according to some ?

PC for strategy , RPGs , FPS and sandbox games. Console for everything else.

Samox

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[QUOTE="locopatho"]Pc is silly. Pop disc in, begin playing. Fun.locopatho

Never heard of disc autorun? ;) pop-in, click, fun

What is this, the 90s?

Installing? Patching? I use Steam these days. I can have a ~7GB game completely downloaded in half the time that it takes for me to run down to the store and buy a retail console/PC game. Games are ready to play once they're done downloading. Patching is completely automated, and the game is kept up-to-date without the user doing anything at all. There's not even a disc to worry about, so one might say that Steam is simpler than even console gaming in that respect.

Drivers? Windows 7 automatically detects installed devices and automatically downloads the proper drivers through Windows Update. They won't be the latest bleeding-edge beta drivers, sure..but who cares?

Modern games also auto-detect video settings. I launched Left 4 Dead 2 for the first time yesterday. I proceeded to open up the options menu, only to realize that there was nothing I needed to change. Resolution was automatically set to 1920x1080. All video settings were automatically set to max. All I had to do was rebind a couple keys to my preference.

The PC gaming user experience has improved massively in just the past few years. You don't have to be super tech-savvy to have a good experience anymore...and it's only going to get better from here.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]

Never heard of disc autorun? ;) pop-in, click, fun

Velocitas8

What is this, the 90s?

Installing? Patching? I use Steam these days. I can have a ~7GB game completely downloaded in half the time than it takes for me to run down to the store and buy a retail console/PC game. Games are ready to play once they're done downloading. Patching is completely automated, and the game is kept up-to-date without the user doing anything at all. There's not even a disc to worry about, so one might say that Steam is simpler than even console gaming in that respect.

Drivers? Windows 7 automatically detects installed devices and automatically downloads the proper drivers through Windows Update. They won't be the latest bleeding-edge beta drivers, sure..but who cares?

Modern games also auto-detect video settings. I launched Left 4 Dead 2 for the first time yesterday. I proceeded to open up the options menu, only to realize that there was nothing I needed to change. Resolution was automatically set to 1920x1080. All video settings were automatically set to max. All I had to do was rebined a couple keys to my preference.

The PC gaming user experience has improved massively in just the past few years. You don't have to be super tech-savvy to have a good experience anymore...

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]

Never heard of disc autorun? ;) pop-in, click, fun

Velocitas8

What is this, the 90s?

Installing? Patching? I use Steam these days. I can have a ~7GB game completely downloaded in half the time that it takes for me to run down to the store and buy a retail console/PC game. Games are ready to play once they're done downloading. Patching is completely automated, and the game is kept up-to-date without the user doing anything at all. There's not even a disc to worry about, so one might say that Steam is simpler than even console gaming in that respect.

Drivers? Windows 7 automatically detects installed devices and automatically downloads the proper drivers through Windows Update. They won't be the latest bleeding-edge beta drivers, sure..but who cares?

Modern games also auto-detect video settings. I launched Left 4 Dead 2 for the first time yesterday. I proceeded to open up the options menu, only to realize that there was nothing I needed to change. Resolution was automatically set to 1920x1080. All video settings were automatically set to max. All I had to do was rebind a couple keys to my preference.

The PC gaming user experience has improved massively in just the past few years. You don't have to be super tech-savvy to have a good experience anymore...and it's only going to get better from here.

Then spend 20 minutes Installing, then more time getting patches. Spend 5 minutes playing, then get a segmentation fault and have the game crash. Yipee. I speak from bitter experience, not ignorance btw. Having a game as good as Baldur's Gate 2, not being able to play it because of constant crashes, and spending my gaming time reinstalling stuff, downloading patches and drivers, and reconfiguring settings is pretty much my definition of hell. locopatho

Ok well that sounds fine actually. To be honest, it was the 90s the last time I was a PC gamer :P If it is as streamlined and easy as you say I may well have to get back into PC gaming.locopatho

I don't want to make it sound perfect, so:

-Using digital distribution services like Steam, you really do need a good connection to have games downloaded in a timely manner.

-While the majority of games do autodetect video settings decently, few do so perfectly. While native resolution is usually properly detected, games will often underestimate the power of a system and set the detail settings too low. Dragon Age did this for me iirc.

Pc is silly. Pop disc in, begin playing. Fun.locopatho

[QUOTE="locopatho"]Pc is silly. Pop disc in, begin playing. Fun.Birdy09

[QUOTE="locopatho"]Ok well that sounds fine actually. To be honest, it was the 90s the last time I was a PC gamer :P If it is as streamlined and easy as you say I may well have to get back into PC gaming.Velocitas8

I don't want to make it sound perfect, so:

-Using digital distribution services like Steam, you really do need a good connection to have games downloaded in a timely manner.

-While the majority of games do autodetect video settings decently, few do so perfectly. While native resolution is usually properly detected, games will often underestimate the power of a system and set the detail settings too low. Dragon Age did this for me iirc.

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[QUOTE="locopatho"]Ok well that sounds fine actually. To be honest, it was the 90s the last time I was a PC gamer :P If it is as streamlined and easy as you say I may well have to get back into PC gaming.locopatho

I don't want to make it sound perfect, so:

-Using digital distribution services like Steam, you really do need a good connection to have games downloaded in a timely manner.

-While the majority of games do autodetect video settings decently, few do so perfectly. While native resolution is usually properly detected, games will often underestimate the power of a system and set the detail settings too low. Dragon Age did this for me iirc.

Personally I hate keyboard and mouse, I feel so disconnected. I use a 360 controller for the most part, but ifI know a game is kb n mouse before hand with no option for game controller I wont even buy the game.

I see all you saying how this console game is the best but it stops there. on the pc that game would have mods and better graphics and a keyboard and mouse controller. Also dedicated servers is a must for playing games because it elimates the host advantage. I don't no why people would even consider playing games on a console when the pc is there for them.HermitQ6600

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Velocitas8"]

I don't want to make it sound perfect, so:

-Using digital distribution services like Steam, you really do need a good connection to have games downloaded in a timely manner.

-While the majority of games do autodetect video settings decently, few do so perfectly. While native resolution is usually properly detected, games will often underestimate the power of a system and set the detail settings too low. Dragon Age did this for me iirc.

adamosmaki

meh.

sorry i prefer console gaming

I use keyboard and mouse even in PS3 XMB navigation. Sadly UT III is one of the few games in PS3 with K+M support, and my reason to not play fps in consoles any longer. Consoles to me are for fighting games and a couple of exclusive games as Wipe Out HD Fury.

I see all you saying how this console game is the best but it stops there. on the pc that game would have mods and better graphics and a keyboard and mouse controller. Also dedicated servers is a must for playing games because it elimates the host advantage. I don't no why people would even consider playing games on a console when the pc is there for them.HermitQ6600

Personally I hate keyboard and mouse, I feel so disconnected. playharderfool

Really? For me, it's the total opposite. I feel so disconnected using a controller. The reason being is while I use a controller, I am relaxed on some couch. And when I'm relaxed on some couch, I need to play games that don't require any thought. Because when I play a game that requires me thinking, I have to take myself out of relaxed mode and focus.

So when I play a game like Forza, where screwing up one turn can cost you an antire race, I've got to sit up, and get close to the TV to let nothing distract me. So when I'm playing on my PC, I'm never ever in relaxed mode. I'm always in hunched over mode. That helps me think because I'm never relaxed. I feel more connected to the game as a result of using keyboard and mouse.

[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]PC gaming sucks. All they have is Crysis and a bunch of mods and RTS' that nobody cares about. Why don't they care? Cause my opinion is fact.ProjectPat187

Pc is silly. Pop disc in, begin playing. Fun.locopatho

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[QUOTE="locopatho"]Pc is silly. Pop disc in, begin playing. Fun.locopatho

Never heard of disc autorun? ;) pop-in, click, fun

[QUOTE="locopatho"]Pc is silly. Pop disc in, begin playing. Fun.ProjectPat187

I see all you saying how this console game is the best but it stops there. on the pc that game would have mods and better graphics and a keyboard and mouse controller. Also dedicated servers is a must for playing games because it elimates the host advantage. I don't no why people would even consider playing games on a console when the pc is there for them.HermitQ6600

Yeah it's alright.

For most of my game experiences then the PC is the best choice.

However, the PC isn;t the best when it needs to run an exclusive for 360, PS3 or Wii is it? For that reason I own the consoles.

Both have advantages and disadvantages over the other, PC just seems to have many more of the advantages :P

[QUOTE="HermitQ6600"]I see all you saying how this console game is the best but it stops there. on the pc that game would have mods and better graphics and a keyboard and mouse controller. Also dedicated servers is a must for playing games because it elimates the host advantage. I don't no why people would even consider playing games on a console when the pc is there for them.SionPT

PC need constant updates, fixes, patches, the games are pirated like hell, 50% of times rheres always "something" that ruins the experience, or you dont have the right drivers, or you need a fix, or the game didnt instal properly, not to mention you always need to configure over and over to get the best experience possible, if the PC has a problems you cant play games, if you need format, you need to reinstall everything again.. and the list goes on and on

not to mention online in PC most times is anoying for everygame you want to play you have to go through the process of registration in here and there for everygame

in consoles pretty mutch everything resumes to, put the DVd/Blu-ray in sit back and play, the only real problems are RROD or YLOD, no configurations, no fixes, no patches, no drivers

yeah, that's the main reason i dont like pc gaming... no matter how good pc you have, you still have to configure your setting. it's annoying and you have to do it on every games. oajlu

Pretty much every modern game auto-detects. Sometimes it's incredibly accurate, sometimes it needs to be adjusted slightly. It's easy though.

So it's not every game, however you preferring not to do it is fine. Just don't distort what actually happens.