PC gaming is the future...

Says Gabe Newell (the mastermind behind Half-Life)

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=160866&page=1

Halelueh brothers, say it again.
Jade_Monkey

"What's more, in the emerging markets of China, Korea and Russia, where gaming is seeing unprecedented, explosive growth, console install bases are negligible, and the PC is king. Valve thinks that there's a silent majority of global gamers who are skipping the console era entirely, the way these developing nations already skipped dial-up internet."

I like this, seems like worldwide, the gaming industry is booming in the PC sector.

Good Read.

I've become more interested in PC games and building a PC lately...

"What's more, in the emerging markets of China, Korea and Russia, where gaming is seeing unprecedented, explosive growth, console install bases are negligible, and the PC is king. Valve thinks that there's a silent majority of global gamers who are skipping the console era entirely, the way these developing nations already skipped dial-up internet."

I like this, seems like worldwide, the gaming industry is booming in the PC sector.

dgsag

Amen.

PC gaming is the past, present and future.

It was around before the Playstation, before Xbox, it has seen many consoles born and die.

If the gaming market crashed tomorrow PC gaming would still be here; if Microsoft died PC gaming would still survive because it is is independent of companies, independant of ownership, it has no roots to cut so it cannot be killed.

As long as there is an open platform personal computer for programmers to work on, be it nerds in their bedroom or international companies, PC gaming will exist.

Considering consoles are mutating into pc's, yea.

Ed: Your link does not work

why does the link make you compose an email when you click on it?

anyways, i don't think that PC will become mainstream any time soon, but the PC's probably getting more support in this time.

By the way, Audiosurf > Any recent PC game.

Considering consoles are mutating into pc's, yea.

Kez1984

I think they are more comparable to Mac's, locked down proprietary systems where the producer dictates what you can do with them.

By the way, Audiosurf > Any recent PC game.

bulletsword

A one man development team produces a game that ends up a great hit, a success story that could only have happened on PC.

No its not.

For some reason I cant see the link :(

No its not.

For some reason I cant see the link :(

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

You cannot read the article but saw fit to disagree with it anyway?

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

No its not.

For some reason I cant see the link :(

AnnoyedDragon

You cannot read the article but saw fit to disagree with it anyway?

Wtf the link broke just now,it was working when I posted the thread.

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=160866&page=1

At one point in my life I actually wanted a high-end gaming PC. Then I figured that the cost of upgrading my PC every 3 months is too much for my wallet to cope. PC gaming isn't for everyone. I also think that PC gaming is just too depressing. I currently own a dimension E250 and at the time of purchase, it cost me about a gran. It's not just the price of the hardware it's the software that's just not convincing enough for me for me to invest even more money. I'll stick to console gaming for now, and if PC gaming isn't any easier on the wallet in the near future, I stay with console gaming for good.cronus233

you don't have to upgrade it every 3 months or so (unless you're of course, exagerrating). then again, i can't deny that it's expensive. i spent roughly that much on my PC and it runs Crysis on low, but i got mine back when my rig would have been considered better.

At one point in my life I actually wanted a high-end gaming PC. Then I figured that the cost of upgrading my PC every 3 months is too much for my wallet to cope. PC gaming isn't for everyone. I also think that PC gaming is just too depressing. I currently own a dimension E250 and at the time of purchase, it cost me about a gran. It's not just the price of the hardware it's the software that's just not convincing enough for me for me to invest even more money. I'll stick to console gaming for now, and if PC gaming isn't any easier on the wallet in the near future, I stay with console gaming for good.cronus233

Wrong buddy. You actually have to upgrade every 3 weeks now. It's mandatory. Didn't you get the memo!?

It depends on the person. I prefer certain multiplatform games that are on PC, Oblvion, i prefer on pc because there is so much you can do.

Yeah, it really depends on the person

The thing I dont like about that article is how gabe cherry picked those PC stats.

He's acting like every console owner sold there last gen console and moved on to the current gen.

He's acting like every console owner sold there last gen console and moved on to the current gen. Gh0st_Of_0nyx

The thing I dont like about that article is how gabe cherry picked those PC stats.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Those 'cherry picked' stats are from DFC Intelligence, console users favourite quoting source to argue console game sale quantities over PC.

Now that they are showing some good figures for PC they are suddenly untrustworthy?

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

No its not.

For some reason I cant see the link :(

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

You cannot read the article but saw fit to disagree with it anyway?

Fail

ehhh....Another "PC rules the world" thread...Seems to me if PC's are so great , you would be playing them instead of trying to tell us all how great they are and how they are going to take over the gaming world??...Just a thought.

ehhh....Another "PC rules the world" thread...Seems to me if PC's are so great , you would be playing them instead of trying to tell us all how great they are and how they are going to take over the gaming world??...Just a thought.

FunkyHeadHunter

Just got off of playing M2 TW and in about 10 mins going to play TF2.

You were saying?

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]He's acting like every console owner sold there last gen console and moved on to the current gen. foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

No its not.

For some reason I cant see the link :(

DrCortex

You cannot read the article but saw fit to disagree with it anyway?

Fail

You know what else is fail ? the fact that you didnt take the time to read how the TC posted a new FIXED link so that I could read the article (and still disagree) :roll:
Gh0st_Of_0nyx

And yet the variable of fail (disagreeing) is still present.

FAIL.

ehhh....Another "PC rules the world" thread...Seems to me if PC's are so great , you would be playing them instead of trying to tell us all how great they are and how they are going to take over the gaming world??...Just a thought.

FunkyHeadHunter

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]You know what else is fail ? the fact that you didnt take the time to read how the TC posted a new FIXED link so that I could read the article (and still disagree) :roll:
DrCortex

And yet the variable of fail (disagreeing) is still present.

FAIL.

wow some of you hermits need to get out more and be exposed to DIFFERENT OPINIONS :wink:

[QUOTE="DrCortex"]

[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]You know what else is fail ? the fact that you didnt take the time to read how the TC posted a new FIXED link so that I could read the article (and still disagree) :roll:
Gh0st_Of_0nyx

And yet the variable of fail (disagreeing) is still present.

FAIL.

wow some of you hermits need to get out more and be exposed to DIFFERENT OPINIONS :wink:

/Owns all consoles

Care to fail some more?

Piracy will force many developers to leave the PC market. Companies aren't going to invest heavily in a product when the expected returns aren't nearly what they could be. We need a DRM that not only satisfies end-users but also protects IP's. The only thriving market as far as PC gaming goes will only be MMO/MMORPGS. Alot of hermits act like 2 yr olds being forced to take their medicine. We need some type of DRM if this market is ever going to get better. Right now, it isn't in my opinion. Would you want to see more software-in-a-box type games decorating retail shelves and bargin-bins or see something truely revolutionary? Consoles will bleed the PC market dry. We brag about our framerates, our detailed environments and high resolutions but on a std/hd tv (which consoles are quite able to handle), you can't tell the differences between a PS3 and a high-end PC without a magnifying glass. consoles will be the future.

you can't tell the differences between a PS3 and a high-end PC without a magnifying glass.consoles will be the future.

bulletwitch1

That's because they are multiplats...

Take a pc exclusive like Dawn Of War II or Crysis and try that under a magnifying glass, yes?

A pc is not a dreamcast, it does not die. It will be around in the future regardless.

He's obviously counting every gameing PC connected to a gameing server so thats how his numbers are so high.

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Again this is DFC figures he is quoting here; they are a neutral source that gathers hard statistics, valuable information that many companies are willing to pay for. If their information was inaccurate, for example if 80% of that number went online once a month, then they would be falsely reporting on a none existent market.

DFC is a highly respect information source within the industry, they didn't become that making statistical mistakes your average forum goer can spot.

And again why do console users treat DFC as an unquestionable source to be quoted as proof, unless their figures are to the benifit of PC gaming then in which case you find them questionable?

You know what else is fail ? the fact that you didnt take the time to read how the TC posted a new FIXED link so that I could read the article (and still disagree) :roll:
Gh0st_Of_0nyx

Don't you consider how people read the article before the fix? Clicking on the link was broken, cutting and pasting it into the browser was not.

snipbulletwitch1

Piracy, when people run out of arguments against PC as a gaming platform. Should I start factoring in mod chipping when making judgments on consoles as a gaming platform?

I also think that PC gaming is just too depressing. I currently own a dimension E250 and at the time of purchase, it cost me about a gran. cronus233

You sold your Gran for a PC and you still dont like it?

you can't tell the differences between a PS3 and a high-end PC without a magnifying glass. consoles will be the future.

bulletwitch1

... there are a lot of retro gamers about alright.

[QUOTE="FunkyHeadHunter"]

ehhh....Another "PC rules the world" thread...Seems to me if PC's are so great , you would be playing them instead of trying to tell us all how great they are and how they are going to take over the gaming world??...Just a thought.

DrCortex

Just got off of playing M2 TW and in about 10 mins going to play TF2.

You were saying?

ehhh....Another "PC rules the world" thread...Seems to me if PC's are so great , you would be playing them instead of trying to tell us all how great they are and how they are going to take over the gaming world??...Just a thought.

That is what Im saying...You actually took the time to post when you should have been playing your marvel of a gaming machine....:)

[QUOTE="DrCortex"][QUOTE="FunkyHeadHunter"]

ehhh....Another "PC rules the world" thread...Seems to me if PC's are so great , you would be playing them instead of trying to tell us all how great they are and how they are going to take over the gaming world??...Just a thought.

FunkyHeadHunter

Just got off of playing M2 TW and in about 10 mins going to play TF2.

You were saying?

ehhh....Another "PC rules the world" thread...Seems to me if PC's are so great , you would be playing them instead of trying to tell us all how great they are and how they are going to take over the gaming world??...Just a thought.

That is what Im saying...You actually took the time to post when you should have been playing your marvel of a gaming machine....:)

Why SHOULD I have?

:lol: I have a life you know. I can't game all the time, and sometimes I feel like taking a break...

I mean, for god's sakes, looking at your sig, you should know what I'm saying.

[QUOTE="FunkyHeadHunter"][QUOTE="DrCortex"][QUOTE="FunkyHeadHunter"]

ehhh....Another "PC rules the world" thread...Seems to me if PC's are so great , you would be playing them instead of trying to tell us all how great they are and how they are going to take over the gaming world??...Just a thought.

DrCortex

Just got off of playing M2 TW and in about 10 mins going to play TF2.

You were saying?

ehhh....Another "PC rules the world" thread...Seems to me if PC's are so great , you would be playing them instead of trying to tell us all how great they are and how they are going to take over the gaming world??...Just a thought.

That is what Im saying...You actually took the time to post when you should have been playing your marvel of a gaming machine....:)

Why SHOULD I have?

:lol: I have a life you know. I can't game all the time, and sometimes I feel like taking a break...

I mean, for god's sakes, looking at your sig, you should know what I'm saying.

Posting on SW is not a good case for having a life. We do not take a break from gaming to post on SW to "get back to life".

Everyone above the poverty level owns a PC so it makes sense there will be games available. But PC's main draw, power, is becoming a moot point.

How many people in SW are posting on something other then a PC?

PC is the generic platform. I do not mean that in bad way.

Console gaming is a dead end road, the quicker it dies out the better for the whole industry. PCs will be the future, or rather web (accessed through various types of machines) will be the one universal platform for gamingAdrianWerner

If consoles die you won't have anything to feel special about. So, be careful what you ask for.

[QUOTE="DrCortex"][QUOTE="FunkyHeadHunter"]

ehhh....Another "PC rules the world" thread...Seems to me if PC's are so great , you would be playing them instead of trying to tell us all how great they are and how they are going to take over the gaming world??...Just a thought.

FunkyHeadHunter

Just got off of playing M2 TW and in about 10 mins going to play TF2.

You were saying?

ehhh....Another "PC rules the world" thread...Seems to me if PC's are so great , you would be playing them instead of trying to tell us all how great they are and how they are going to take over the gaming world??...Just a thought.

That is what Im saying...You actually took the time to post when you should have been playing your marvel of a gaming machine....:)

Hypocrit.

If you have that many games, and the consoles "are the awesome" ... then why are you here attacking PC gamers whatever chance you get? exactly.

[QUOTE="DrCortex"][QUOTE="FunkyHeadHunter"][QUOTE="DrCortex"][QUOTE="FunkyHeadHunter"]

ehhh....Another "PC rules the world" thread...Seems to me if PC's are so great , you would be playing them instead of trying to tell us all how great they are and how they are going to take over the gaming world??...Just a thought.

Coyo7e

Just got off of playing M2 TW and in about 10 mins going to play TF2.

You were saying?

ehhh....Another "PC rules the world" thread...Seems to me if PC's are so great , you would be playing them instead of trying to tell us all how great they are and how they are going to take over the gaming world??...Just a thought.

That is what Im saying...You actually took the time to post when you should have been playing your marvel of a gaming machine....:)

Why SHOULD I have?

:lol: I have a life you know. I can't game all the time, and sometimes I feel like taking a break...

I mean, for god's sakes, looking at your sig, you should know what I'm saying.

Posting on SW is not a good case for having a life. We do not take a break from gaming to post on SW to "get back to life".

Everyone above the poverty level owns a PC so it makes sense there will be games available. But PC's main draw, power, is becoming a moot point.

How many people in SW are posting on something other then a PC?

PC is the generic platform. I do not mean that in bad way.

I'm not using posting on SW as a case. I'm saying it's good if I want to take a break from playing. Talking about games is fun for me, because gaming is my favorite hobby.

No, my friend, having a job and going to school are good cases for "getting back to life". It just so happens that I do both.

It's funny because every new console is just trying to become a PC.

Look at the features on the box, they're just trying to become a PC but be smaller, the bullet marks on the box just list every feature a PC has except it's overall worse.

-Hey you can browse the net! but it's slower and less accesible
-You can chat with friends
-You can play high def games (although on worse settings than a half decent pc)
-You can store music and videos on your hard drive

etc. etc.

All consoles are becoming is worse versions of PCs and to say consoles will kill PCs is so MESSED UP it's actually hilarious and annoying people actually believe it... it's like someone creating a slower, crapper version of a car and it completely replacing the perfectly capable modern day car.

I just kind of thought of something....PCgamers are always dissing consoles and trying to get consolers to switch to PC..Here is a thought.....The Xbox/360 are like PC's...They are made by MS...MS kind of owns all pc'ers and pc gamers as we all pretty much us Windows right?

A pc can do many things, where as a console does only a couple. But they are both MS products really...PC gamers use Windows mostly....Xbox/360 is made by MS...Its all intertwined...Its all MS ..

The games are easily made for both systems because they are so close to one another...The good thing with consoles though, is its easy to use, plugNplay, You dont have to worry with spyware, adware, viruses, bluescreen of death, installing 10gig games taking up precious hdd space, using a MIC is easy...NO installing programs and trying to figure them out to use MIC...They are the same.....but better at gaming as they are just easier...

Im not slaming PC gaming but just trying to bring PC and console closer....They both have goods and bads...BUT...look at how much easier a console is...I love pc's..I build them and mess on them all the time..But for gaming, I have to go with consoles every time..

[QUOTE="bulletwitch1"]

you can't tell the differences between a PS3 and a high-end PC without a magnifying glass.consoles will be the future.

Kez1984

That's because they are multiplats...

Take a pc exclusive like Dawn Of War II or Crysis and try that under a magnifying glass, yes?

A pc is not a dreamcast, it does not die. It will be around in the future regardless.

Playing Crysis on very high settings crush anything on the PS3 including MGS4. My new PC crushes the PS3!

[QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="bulletwitch1"]

you can't tell the differences between a PS3 and a high-end PC without a magnifying glass.consoles will be the future.

PS3_3DO

That's because they are multiplats...

Take a pc exclusive like Dawn Of War II or Crysis and try that under a magnifying glass, yes?

A pc is not a dreamcast, it does not die. It will be around in the future regardless.

Playing Crysis on very high settings crush anything on the PS3 including MGS4. My new PC crushes the PS3!

How is your new PC, btw? :)